Talk:Transcendent Demonic-Undead Physiology/@comment-4714517-20151019092809/@comment-24053170-20151019233205

Atropus is the Prime Mover and First Cause, the being who forged existence. he is the original ancestor of all things, gods, primordials, overgods, abominations. he cannot be fought or reasoned with, while his primal cosmic power may have been removed he is still completely invincible.

Plus Nurgle didn't create life or existence itself, and the chaos gods didn't even come into existence until the birth of humanity as the warp wasn't the place it is today until humanity was born. Nurgle owes his existence to humanity. if humanity had never been born, then Nurgle would never have been born either. Hell the C'tan are even older then the chaos gods(as they were the very first beings born into existence) and the warp didn't even exist until many years after the birth of the universe. compared to Atropus who was there at the beginning and was responsible for everything, past, present and future.

Atropus didn't need anything to create him, he was already there from the very start. plus if atropus entered the warp, it would cease to exist from his mere presence, as it would wipe out all life everywhere (since every living thing is connected to the warp) which would end up killing Nurgle as well.