Talk:Badass Adaptation/@comment-33383995-20171017122458/@comment-30766268-20171021154944

There is nothing on the page you pointed me to.

And even if they say something like that the powers of super shenron are unlimited or something like that, then it means he is stronger then zeno.

Also, he already fought people who can cancel his abilities, and it didn't worked on him.

He posses at full power infinite power level, can surpass everything in his way, and more.

About goku being in his base universal, do you say that because of what has been said in battle of gods, about goku and beerus fight danger the entire universe?

or something else? becuase I don't remember goku ever punched a universe out of existance.

And the mountain level with issei is only what he used in his fights in the anime so far.

In the light novels (the real plot) he already went far beyonf that.

And you know what, let's say he is, in his armor, a mountain level baster, and goku is a universal level, so he can, if he use his strongest punch in base form, without any super saiyan modes of kaioken, he can oblitirate the universe.

after the first second issei's strongest punch can oblitirate 2 mountains. after another second it's 4 mountains.

After one minute of fighting (which keep in mind, if his body is being destroyed, he would just get immediately a new one from great red), he would have the ability to destroy with a punch 1,152,921,504,606,846,976 mountains, easily putting him planetary level.

after another minute he would be able to oblitirate 1,329,227,995,784,915,872,903,807,060,280,344,576 mountains. this is beyond googol.

Meaning, he would easily be able to destroy galaxys with punchs, something we honestly never saw goku doing, but let's say goku's punchs in base form can oblitirate universes.

with each passing second his power would increase in this kind of rate.

And for goku, if he starts from universal, then let's say there are 200 billion galaxiesin DBS normal 1 universe, like in our observed universe.

After the first second, goku's power would be able to oblitirate only 100 billion.

after that only 50 billions. after a minute, he would be able to destroy in his strongest punch in base form only 0.86206896551 billion galaxys. the number is going down and down, while issei's is going up. if we are not using issei possesing his infinite power level from diabolos dragon mode, and on ly this form, while goku stays in base form, then goku would eventually loose.

If goku use his final form, then issei would use as well.

in this form, since issei posses infinite strengh, he would instantly kill goku.

in a fight between goku and issei super shenron does not fight, so it would be immposible for goku to just ask him to eraze issei from existance, or to revive himself.

Issei would eventually kill him, or at the very least beat the crap out of him.