Talk:Eternal Transcendence/@comment-43497388-20200205150901/@comment-43497388-20200209005817

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ここは既に神の領域. ならば出来るさ、何でも出来る.

ルファスのステータスが一瞬で『∞』へと切り替わり、更にその∞の文字がどこまでもどこまでも表示され続ける.

無限の無限乗. こうなってしまえば、ただの腕力で全てが片付いてしまう. 存在しているだけで極大宇宙が塵となって消え失せる.

"This is God's Territority so anything is possible.

in an instant, Ruphas stats become "∞" and "∞" characters continues to be displayed at any level, Infinite^infinite, with this anything can be cleared up easily, even by merely existing, Ultimate Universe disappear like dust"

First of all Their transcendence is infinite^infinite

「無限速？ なるほど凄いものです. 『無限速すら私の前では１に過ぎず、私はその百倍は速い』と. 無限の攻撃力があるならばこう言いましょう. 『その無限すら１に過ぎない更なる無限がある』と. それを超えたならば更にその上があると言い張りましょう.

無限に強くなり続けるならば、その千倍の速度で更に無限に強くなりましょう.

さあ次はどうします？　相対するだけで相手を殺す絶対の即死能力？　存在しているだけで相手の能力を全て奪い取るコソ泥能力？　絶対に相手よりも強くなる特性？　時間ごと巻き戻して無かったことにする術？　更に上の世界の住人となり紙を破るように相手の設定を破り捨てる凄い力？　ありとあらゆる能力を無効化する力？　どんな攻撃でも倍返しで反射出来る無敵のバリア？

勝利という概念を操って過程を無視して絶対に勝利する体質？

敗北という概念を相手に植え付けて絶対負けさせるチート？

その全てを問答無用に貫通して殺してしまえるだけの純粋無比な力？

何でも構いませんよ、満足するまで出して下さい」

"Infinite Speed? i see, its indeed Amazing, Then lets me asnwer it, "Even Infinite speed is just 1 before me, and I'm 100 times faster than that", let's say you have infinite power, "that inifinity is just 1 of the more infinity", let's say that you transcends that then there is even more, if you continues to be infinitely stronger than that, then let's become indefinitely stronger at thousands times faster.

''Now what will you do? Absolute instant death ability to kill your opponent by just merely facing them? And ability to steal your opponent's ability by just being present? A special trait to become absolutely stronger than your opponent? A technique to decided that it wont rewound each hour? Become inhabitant of the higher world and get the power to destroy your opponent's setting like breaking a paper? A power to invalidates all kinds of ability? An invincible barrier that can reflects any attacks?''

Manipulate the concepts of victory and win without process?

A cheat to plant the concepts of lose and absolutely defeat your opponent?

An Unparallelled power to penetrate and kill all of that?

Anything is fine, please pull it out until you're satisfied."

The infinite^infinite transcendence is increasing infinitely and even can arbitrarily increase the difference between each transcendence, that even 1 transcendence (1 infinite) can defeat your opponent like breaking paper.

振るう力は互いに無限. 相手の無限を己の無限で上回り、それを更に超えていく. ビッグバンだのビッグクランチだの、そんな小さい攻撃は最早使わない. 意味がない. 技に名前など要らず、どこまでも純化させた力だけをぶつけ合う.

私は強い、私の方が強い、ならば私はもっと強い.

ルファスがどこまでも速くなり続け、速さそのものが光速で乗倍し続けているように際限なく上昇する. しかしアロヴィナスはそれを遥か置き去りにした速度で加速し、だが次の瞬間にはルファスが同じ事をやり返している. ルファスが不可説不可説転の力で殴れば、アロヴィナスは不可説不可説転に不可説不可説転を乗じた力で殴り、ルファスは更にそこにまた乗じて殴り返す. お前の無限など私の前では１にも満たないと言い張れば、今度は相手がその上の世界へ立つ. 互いに相手を踏み台にし、自分の最強設定を押し通そうとする. この攻防でどれだけ上の位階へ達しているかなど二人共考えていない.

"Each attack power is infinite, Surpass your opponent's infinity with your infinity and transcends that. Big Bang, Big crunch, such weak attacks is completely meaningless, this skill doesnt need a name, but this power that has been refined as much as possible clash with each other.

"I'm Stronger, i'm stronger than that, and more stronger."

''Ruphas keeps getting faster as the Speed itself continues to multipliy at the speed of light, and keep increasing indefinitely. However, Alovenas move at the speed that left it far behind but the next moment Ruphas did the same thing. If Ruphas has Incomprehensible power, Alovenas beats it with Multiplied Incomprehensible power, and Ruphas beats it again. If your infinity is one less than mine, then your opponents will stand in the world above. Use your opponent as stepping stone and create your strongest settings. Don't even think about how high you have reached in this fight''"

They can arbitrarily increase their transcendence, and in here their 1 infinite difference is 1 world above i.e. like previous scan stated 1 world above means you can defeat the lower just like breaking a paper.

一見互角の戦い……否、実際に互角ではある. 両者が共に相手に合わせて『私の方が強い』を繰り返す以上、そこに優劣は生まれない. 両者がこの上ない『最強』に達してしまった今、その戦いは互角以外有り得ない. 子供でも分かる簡単な方程式. 無限VS無限ではどちらが上かという答えなど出るはずがないのだ.

At the first glance, the battle looks equal, no it is really equal, as long as they both repeat "I'm Stronger" there is no superitority nor inferiority, Now both has reached nothing more than the "Strongest" state , thus the battle can only be equal. A simple eqution that even children can understand, Infinity vs Infinity so there is no answer which one is superior.

Their transcendence always increasing until they reach the "Strongest" State, superiority and inferiority is no longer relevant. In other words any further transcendence is no longer relevant for them.

https://m.imgur.com/i9A9tIB

They can only be harmed if their subconciousness want it, Alovenas looking for her peers so when they reached the "strongest" or "equal" state, Ruphas can harm her since Alovenas subconciousness has been satisfied, thus anyone who is equal to her can harm her, while Ruphas keep thinking that she is undefeated thus no matter how strong her opponent is she Will still be undefeated, i.e. even after they arbitrarily increase their transcendence to the point any further transcendence is irrelevant their subconciousness still unbound by this.

「…………え？　あ？　う、嘘……私は、今……」

「ああ、HPが０になったな. 自分でも分かるだろう」

HPがゼロになろうとマイナスになろうと、HPという概念ごと消し飛ばされようと、それでもアロヴィナスは死なない.

戦いは続行しようと思えばいくらでも続けられるし、立ち上がろうと思えばいくらでも立てる.

だが負けた――そう、紛れもなくアロヴィナスは今、負けたのだ.

加えて、もしルファスが殺す気であったならばアロヴィナスすら殺せたかもしれない.

その事実を前に、アロヴィナスが脱力した.

一度でも負けを認めてしまった以上……もう、この神域の闘争でアロヴィナスがルファスに勝つ事はない.

いくら『自分の方が強い』と言い張り設定の上塗りをしようと、心の奥底に負けた事実が残る. それが己を最強と信じる心を曇らせる.