Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34735597-20170227214011/@comment-30431814-20170303085125

ShadowMonarch212 wrote:

Meh3300 wrote: Alice, being omnipotent, is able to do anything and everything regardless of logic.

Alice decides to create Bob, a being infinitely greater than she and completely independent of her, not under her control. Saying Bob can never exist independently of Alice is inherently putting a "cap" on Alice's omnipotence, making her only nigh-omnipotent. My previous two posts disappeared for some reason, not sure what that's about. Sorry if post number three seems rushed.

Analogy: Alice's omnipotence is like the speed of light. It takes an infinite amount of energy to reach the speed of light. For us mortals, that means we can never ascend to her level. Bob is like a tachyon particle: he can never descend to her level. And since "greater than omnipotent" is not the same as "omnipotent", Bob can actually have limits on his power. The other limits, derived from the tachyon, are as follows:

1. Faster tachyons have less energy than slow ones. The more powerful Bob is, the less able he is to oppose Alice.

2. Tachyons have imaginary rest mass. Bob's power is also imaginary, so he cannot interact with the real world.

3. Tachyons do not exist; a tachyonic field occurs when certain systems are unstable, and these systems "condense" to avoid producing tachyon particles. Bob being "greater than omnipotent" is illogical, so our logical concept of Existence will exclude him. Alice would have to change the rules of logic for Bob to exist.

In summary, Bob is nigh omnipotent and nonexistent, and cannot oppose Alice because he has a higher level than her.

And the idea that Bob can be independent of Alice is absurd, since Alice created him. There are some caveats to your points

1. That is only due to special relativity and the dimensionality of our universe. The faster the tachyon the greater the delocalization that is the greater its speed the more its energy is stretched throughout all the dimensions until it is everywhere, and everywhen. Since the universe evolves or devolves (your choice) towards lower energy the speed of tachyons approaches infinity leading to your point 3

2. All things in this universe have masses in complex numbers because mass is an artifact of inertia, same for time. Mass does not and cannot exist at complete rest same with the illusion of time.

3. Since the speed of the tachyon approaches infinity, the energy decays to zero under normal circumstances, meaning they do exist, but for all intents and purposes, they do not interact with anything (colloquially dark matter or energy). That said their energy does not completely decay under certain circumstances, for example, the event horizon of black holes, the big bang, the big crunch (if it happens), Planck temperature

Your final point holds true under the laws and logic of our universe but is an omnipotent being constrained by such things