User talk:DYBAD

(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ Cutest face text ever ^ ^

Thanks :D I know you have supported such a role for me for some time now. I heavily appreciate it!

For the next 30 days trial I'll do my best. Thanks again.

Death horseman94 (talk) 11:05, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

Alrighty then, I shall keep those tips in mind. Wish me and Nat luck as it's our first time ;) and have a fun second trial in the meantime too.

Death horseman94 (talk) 09:52, January 7, 2017 (UTC)

Nighty night onii-chan sleep well :D Imouto 14:58, January 7, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Nice! It'll be fun working with you.

Death horseman94 (talk) 23:17, January 7, 2017 (UTC)

I absolutely agree that it shouldn't replace the main, traditional chat. Ever. If we get this chat started, we will indeed be requiring more moderators alongside ourselves, which is also something else you mentioned in your message. With these mixed feelings I think a trial run is in order, im joining the chat tomorrow so I will probably get a link from Pheonix (Nat's recommendation) to view it myself.

Death horseman94 (talk) 21:54, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, sounds good, when do we join?

Death horseman94 (talk) 14:07, January 10, 2017 (UTC)

(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ Your edit to the chat's code went through and I think that it might work :P

See you tonight Imouto 14:10, January 10, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

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Thank chuu and good nighty onii-chan Imouto 13:03, January 11, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

See you tonight っゝω・)っ Imouto 20:18, January 11, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

just a little heads up, there is an RP coming up in discord, if you want to take part when it is on The Leader Of The Lupa Archae (talk) 11:52, January 12, 2017 (UTC)

Can you deal with this user next time they ignore the rules?
Hi DYAD, can you block the user Nilton123 next time he ignores the rules and either removes users or posts user in something other then english? Kuo has been letting him slide and he ignores any comments on his talk page to stop, and its really starting to get annoying as he apparently has no intention of stopping what he is doing.

Since he been doing this constantly I figure a long block might be in order until he is ready to listen or agrees to follows the rules.

Thanks for your time.SageM (talk) 00:22, January 15, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Here are links of him posting users in spanish rather then english and of him removing users-

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Omniscience?diff=prev&oldid=886347

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Multiversal_Embodiment?diff=next&oldid=884983

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Creation?diff=prev&oldid=886960

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Primordial_Force_Manipulation?diff=prev&oldid=886970

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Primordial_Force_Manipulation?diff=next&oldid=886972

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Quantum_Foam_Manipulation?diff=next&oldid=887278

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Omnipresence?diff=prev&oldid=887568

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Total_Event_Collapse?diff=prev&oldid=888407

Does that help?SageM (talk) 01:04, January 15, 2017 (UTC)SageM

The only edits he  makes are either to remove valid users or add users in a different language, thats all he has done since he joined the wikia.SageM (talk) 01:09, January 15, 2017 (UTC)SageM

He ignored the warning you and posted in another language again.
Hi DYAD, well he ignored the warnings and posted in another language again. you might as well block him now.SageM (talk) 06:39, January 16, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Hopefully it will get through to him, though considering that all he did was remove valid users and post in spanish I kinda doubt it.... ^^;;SageM (talk) 08:01, January 16, 2017 (UTC)SageM

What can you tell me about self origin manipulation? Idan647 (talk) 18:36, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

Poi poi
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ See you after work Imouto 21:38, January 23, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

poi poi okie dokie :D Imouto 22:09, January 23, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

thanks for the help DYBADCursed warrior 343 (talk) 23:20, January 23, 2017 (UTC)

Hey DYBAD, I'm creating a new character and I was wondering if I could feature your characters in his story

Hey DYBAD I was wondering if I could feature your characters in one of the new characters im creatingCursed warrior 343 (talk) 22:11, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

Ok I understandCursed warrior 343 (talk) 22:43, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

Coming to you for a second opinion
I talked with Kuo about a power I had in mind, but he said that it was too specific.

The power I had in mind is Undead Planet Physiology. A mixture of Undead Physiology and Planetary Physiology. As for users, I've got the Brethren Moons, Atropos, and Xanshi.

I ask because it seems weird that this power, which is unusual, would be considered "too specific," when there re plenty of powers with only one user.

If you still think no, or that it's not your call, or something else, you can let me know. I just thought it would be a cool idea to explore, given other forms of Undead that are being added.

GZilla311 (talk) 16:30, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

Hey man tell me what it is omnipotent physiology? Idan647 (talk) 21:14, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

Victor Genesis vs Salent (http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Cursed_warrior_343/Salent) Im not saying my character could beat yours i just want to know who would win in the situation on strategic termsCursed warrior 343 (talk) 21:52, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

i will ask you again,what is omnipotence physiology?Idan647 (talk) 13:03, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

see you soon Imouto 23:03, February 5, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ see you then Imouto 23:45, February 5, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ Have a great day onii-chan :D

PLease take care and have fun Imouto 00:55, February 9, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Take care and sleep well

Sorry I wasn't available that much tonight little sister just demanded my attention that's all :D Imouto 03:27, February 9, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ see you soon Imouto 22:07, February 12, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Hey, I just saw the message you left on Acheron's page over on FC/OC Vs Battles, and wanted to thank you for the feedback. ^^  The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 00:35, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

http://fcoc-vs-battles.wikia.com/wiki/Acheron

Good night onii-chan :D Imouto 14:45, February 14, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

see you soon Imouto 21:00, February 14, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

See you soon o/ Imouto 01:17, February 16, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

You on still? Imouto 06:07, February 17, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Hello DYBAD,tell me if there is a being without known definition and classification that means he can be absolutely anything he want's to be? and if so,is that mean he can be omnipotent?Idan647 (talk) 16:11, February 18, 2017 (UTC)

(づ｡ ｡)づ nini onii-chan

Sorry for leaving without saying anything, but you know how Marisa is. ^ ^;

Please take care and see you tommorow

Imouto 05:10, February 20, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

(づ｡｡)づ good night see you once you wake up onii-chan Imouto 12:38, March 4, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ see you later onii-chan Imouto 22:16, March 6, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Sorry for leaving last night onii-chan I fell asleep ^ ^; but i am on right now if you want to talk with me. Imouto 10:53, March 13, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Hey DYBAD I got a question,

So I made my first power ever (Yay!) but for some reason there is no picture or anything that shows up in the Categories when I select it, It shows up as a bunch of text for the thumbnails when you select them so I was curious if you know how to fix it.

Here is the page Card Magic

Thanks ^^ CrabHermit (talk) 00:17, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Alright thanks for the help ^^ I think I'll wait a day or two then if it doesn't fix itself I'll probably change the image, if that doesn't work in the end then I'll send a Bug Report, Thanks though :^) CrabHermit (talk) 01:49, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ
Go get a great night's rest onii-chan :D Imouto 13:30, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Good nighty onii-chan :D Imouto 13:16, March 27, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Say, I just got this power approved by Kuo, called Opportunity Detection, the ability to detect opportunities in any situation. You wouldn't happen to have anything against the power being made, would you? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:40, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

I see. Guess I should think about it, then.

By the way, should I change the name of Meta Existence Manipulation to something else, like Alternate Existence Manipulation? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 12:39, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Yooo!
Ey, DYBAD! I was working on Acheron, revamping him so-to-speak, and was wondering what you thought in terms of a little creative feedback/criticism. ^ ^ -- The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 05:02, April 10, 2017 (UTC)

Good nighty onii-chan
Join which chat and why?

We'll talk about it when you wake up. Sleep well (づ｡｡)づ

Imouto 11:52, April 15, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Sleep Well
See you tonight っゝω・)っ

--Imouto 11:39, April 18, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan (Talk)

っゝω・)っ I most certainly remember to comment for comments from now on. Imouto 21:30, April 20, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

what is omnipotence physiology?Idan6487 (talk) 14:56, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Its just going to get change back anyway...
Its just going to be changed back as soon as Kuo comes back on, so there really is no point in arguing about it.

And omnipotence is about being all-powerful and doing anything, not just being invincible and almighty as thats merely a side effect of omnipotence.SageM (talk) 00:00, May 8, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Gabe locked his talk page. It seems he doesn't want to be bothered anymore, as its been a week since he locked it.SageM (talk) 00:20, May 8, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Sleep well and see you tonight onii-chan :D Imouto 15:27, May 8, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

mostly, yeah. I generally lost interest in this site.

Anyways, what is your question? I hope I know the answer. Gabriel456 (talk) 18:40, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

Grant.walker (talk) 23:54, May 8, 2017 (UTC)
hey, dybad hows it been? also, what's happened with the site? just wondering about it since I haven't been back since a long time.

Nighty night
Sorry for falling asleep on you

Sleep well and see you tonight

Imouto 05:26, May 9, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

I think that would be a suitible definition for OP. Definitely fits it. Gabriel456 (talk) 11:26, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

っゝω・)っ Sleep Well Onii-chan
Sleep well and see you tonight :D Imouto 12:51, May 9, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

yeah, kinda. More focused on Supernatural wiki nowadays.Gabriel456 (talk) 16:37, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

What just happened
Hay DYBAD, I just when to look at Technomorphism and it just got deleted it was an awesome power what just happened??? Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

have a good too friend and I'm glad you got your power back. By the way I made some new improvements on John's ultihuman state I hope it ok. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

Hello i was wanting to ask if you could help me with my wikia page and expanding it.

It seems the PM works even when we are not online together, ignore my last message XD  everything works fine.

Death horseman94 (talk) 16:11, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more! So many cool features and stuff right?

Death horseman94 (talk) 10:26, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Good night onii-chan
(づ｡｡)づ

Nini DYBAD-onii-chan sleep well Imouto 11:10, June 2, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Couple Questions

 * 1) What is the purpose of this wiki?
 * 2) What exactly qualifies as a legitimate power?

Thanks in advance for answering.

FUG.L!F3 (talk) 18:44, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

omniverse
hello.

I just wanted to ask if it's possible to change every page with omniverse (omniverse creation, omniverse destraction, omniverse manipulation, ect) to megaverse.

there is not even one character who posses those abilitys in all fiction, and the pictures which are put in there doesn't feat in.

on the other hand, they do feat for megaverse.

Count Vlad III dracula (talk) 12:27, June 20, 2017 (UTC)

What is a Megaverse
"Multiverse, or megaverse, any hypothetical set of multiple universes described in physical cosmology and other disciplines."

Imouto 21:05, June 20, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Exactly! They are the same thing, but one sounds so much bigger than the other. Imouto 21:33, June 20, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ Indeed!

No need to change something that isn't broken or outdated yet.

Imouto 21:44, June 20, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Discord subject.
I just found out who you banned yesterday and you have got my full backing and support on the matter, should you need it! ;)

Death horseman94 (talk) 16:38, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

Totally agreed! We can't sit back forever saying one more chance, we have our staff positions to keep order and that is what we will do.

Have a nice day/night

Death horseman94 (talk) 12:08, June 24, 2017 (UTC)

metapotence
thank you for changing metapotence description.

it didn't made a lot of sense why pataphysics manipulation would be the lesser form of metapotence.

Count Vlad III dracula (talk) 22:42, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

It's all good, but I'm almost done with John and Anael's ho,e and after that I should probably focus more on Anael's page a little more Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

By the way I just added the update about John Homestead of a Ascension Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

This decision is counter-productive to the wikia....
Except that you don't get to make that kind of decision without Kuo's approval, as it goes against the very nature of the wikia and is actually counter-productive in the long run.

Also the rules clearly state that your not allowed to make anymore new categories, not even this new one. Even if you made an agreement with Imouto, it doesn't matter since Kuo clearly stated there are to be no more new categories.

So your new category is very likely to be deleted, and you will probably get a warning not to do so again.

And you are also breaking one of the wikia rules, as you are deleting powers based on your own opinion. Which is basically the same as changing a power based on your own opinion.

This is actually one of the reasons why Kuo didn't want more admins, as eventually things like this would happen.

I understand your idea, but its probably not going to happen. Especially since most of these new pages were made with the approval of the Gabe and Kuo. And they have final say on all matters on here after all.SageM (talk) 23:10, July 11, 2017 (UTC)SageM

The New Category; Insufficiently Contributive
What even is the new category for?

I personally don't think "too-specific" powers are that bad, a lot of characters have pointlessly specific powers, same goes for "sub-sub-powers" as they are like techniques to those sub-powers.

If you could define it, what kinds of powers currently on the wikia would be added to this category?

Also, if powers are added to this category does that make them candidates for deletion? CrabHermit (talk) 01:26, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

Understandable, thanks for explaining it to me. CrabHermit (talk) 03:01, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

Personally I think that just adding the powers you think aren't worth holding to candidates for deletion and agreeing to talk over which ones should go would have done the same thing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:19, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

I have said my peace....
You do realize that your only excuse about what powers can stay and which can't is what contributes to this wikia.

Thats not a good enough reason for powers to be deleted. And the main reason why you deleted some of those powers was just because they weren't good enough variations or sub-powers to stay.

Thats not how things work here. If the powers are approved by the admins, and they aren't considered to be too specific or single verse only and they have enough valid users to warrant them, then there is no reason for there deletion.

And yes DYBAD, you are basing this on yours and imouto's opinions only. Nobody else seems to think they shouldn't have a reason to exist.

Take breath manipulation for example. You say its not a valid power just because it shouldn't be possible, well over half the powers on this wikia aren't possible and yet there still here. And Breath Powers and Breath manipulation are entirely different powers. One is just a list of breath attacks, while the other is actually about controlling and manipulating ones or anothers breath. Can breath powers control another persons breath? No it cannot, as its limited to the user only.

There was no reason for it to be deleted other then, "This power shouldn't actually exist and isn't valid, even if there are actual valid and proven users for it, so lets just delete it."

That was the only reason for it to be deleted, and it was because someone didn't agree with it. Which again is against the rules set out for all users to follow, including admins.

I hate to say this, but this isn't how the wikia is supposed to work, its supposed to encourage creativity and inspiration, but what your suggesting is turn it into a wikia that makes the admins have final say on all choices, giving the regular users no choices and giving the admins full authority on all powers past, present and future.

I am afraid that you have pretty much perverted your authority as an admin at this point as your going against the very nature of how this wikia works and why it was created.

Powers that have been on here for years should not be so casually deleted, especially if they have been made by admins or given approval by all users and they have enough users to warrant their continued existence.

If you plan to go ahead with this decision I suggest you truly think about what your doing and actually think twice before making mass deletions, as otherwise you will have to delete powers that have actually contributed to this wikia as well.

I have said my peace.SageM (talk) 05:28, July 12, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Also there is one very important thing you forgot to take into account with your decision to do this plan-

A lot of these older powers actually inspire the creation of new powers that actually contribute to this wikia, but if they don't know they exist then a lot of brand new amazing ideas will never get made.

You should take that into account if you decide to do this. As its incredibly important for the future of this wikia.SageM (talk) 05:42, July 12, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Idea has some merit, as long as there's actually some conversation over the pages that are about to be deleted (place?), deleted pages links is removed from the other pages (Special:Whatlinkshere) and it'd be good idea to tell the page creator why the page was removed.

Also, please don't talk to each others on other peoples Talk-page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:04, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

Why add them?

BTW, do you have some specific rules by which you decide which power is deleted? I'd like to know there's some basic idea at least. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:22, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

It's ok. and yeah, some interest has been regained :) Gabriel456 (talk) 11:44, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about the last post being so abrupt, I was in hurry so I didn't think much before posting.

Sounds quite reasonable definition and that alone would be very good way to define which powers to keep when they are posted. I think this should be posted somewhere to show what kind of powers aren't acceptable, but can't really think a place.

Do you have a place where you plan to discuss about which powers to keep/remove?

As I'm likely rushing all over, could you post the reasoning behind deciding to delete the page? Just to make sure I know what powers are gone as there's been several deletes by now I didn't know before running into red link. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:51, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

Honestly, I wouldn't have a clue what to offer, now and in the future, and even though I've gain some interest, I'll probably not be on THAT much. or even on my PC in general as a matter of fact. Heck, I barely edit alone these days..

Thanks for the offer, but I wouldn't be that much help anyways. Gabriel456 (talk) 12:15, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks.

I added your list (with one addition) to comments of Page Creation and Details until you figure out the correct place for it. Way too useful to lose it somewhere. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:15, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

Sure, send me the link. Gabriel456 (talk) 12:36, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

alright, thank you Gabriel456 (talk) 14:11, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

Was this Insufficently Contributive thing all because of me? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:16, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

Are you sure it wasn't me?

Also, forgive me for my frequency. I just happen to have a lot of ideas. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:54, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

1st sentence: Okay, if you say so.

Second sentence: I guess I understand that. No hard feelings. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:44, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

My New Powers
I did some work on the my Aether Bomb Generation and Nether Bomb Generation powers, adding some extra information about their effects and adding to the Applications section as well. I can appreciate the desire to cut down on excess powers, especially when there have been powers without users or proper formatting. In my experience, however, adding information concerning a power's effects have led to articles being trimmed. Information that could help to set a power apart from others has been eliminated, leading them to appearing like others. The new guidelines have their good points, but they can be a little confusing. Would you like there to be additional information when new articles are made to distinguish them from others? Kusarigama (talk) 02:30, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

The links to Animation Magic have been deleted? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

One of the reasons I dread larger changes, most don't remember to fix the links when they Edit. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

Think what ind of mess it would be to delete one of the first powers... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:49, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

At least fixing links is relatively easy compared to some other things. You can easily check if there are still links that haven't been changed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:19, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

Just to make something clear.

First off, Kuo said something about not talking to others on other people's pages.

Secondly, the reason I came up with three powers on Kuo's pages is that I know at least one of them is likely to be disapproved. I don't want to get no approvals on any of them, and I'd like to get at least one power approved so there is that.

Thirdly, even if they all got approved, I am now focused on working on one of them at a time, not all of them at once since the last time I frequently made powers...well, you know. Can you see where I am coming from? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:18, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

Joke's on you, I never said I was going to create a power everyday. Simon did not say that.

In case you didn't know, I did have intentions on slowing down here. Before I made those recent proposals, even. But what exactly did you mean when you said odds of validation will be higher? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:48, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

And what makes a worthwhile page, anyway? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:00, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

Paint Absorption - point.

There are few who ask about the powers, but even then I can't always remember if it's already covered by something else. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:33, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

OK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

hey DYBAD, do you know any users of Mud Generation and/or Mud Attacks?

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 22:34, July 15, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

The point I was trying to get across
You see what I was trying to say was that Omnikinesis and Omnipathy are equals right? like who'd win in a fight a Telepath or a Telekinetic?

Both are kinda equal opposites but we have a telepath power trying to 1-up telekinesis when you could have easily edited Omnipathy to do exactly what Metapathy is doing.

btw, Ultipotence isn't really related to Telekinesis, it's just Omnipotence with raw power but no smarts to go with it.

Here is the kind of ladder I see currently:

Telekinesis = Telepathy

Omnikinesis = Omnipathy

??? = Metapathy

Like, what is going to fill in those question marks or can we just remove Metapathy all-together.

Also I think Omnikinetic Force Manipulation should go too since we'd have to make a Omnipathic Force Manipulation to equal to it since we got Telepathic Force Manipulation.

Let me know your opinion on my talk page if you wanna talk more about it :D.

EDIT: I forgot to mention but we don't have a Metakinesis page.CrabHermit (talk) 01:53, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

why does the power have to be ''Contibutive? ''i posted many powers and seen many powers and this issue hasn't became a problem until now.

isn't it all that matters that the power has a user and thats it?

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 02:20, July 16, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

We already have a power that counts a cosmic telepathy
Remote Telepathy already counts as Cosmic Telepathy. So there is no need to change Omnipathy.SageM (talk) 03:10, July 16, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Also the rules clearly state to add new names to Also Called rather then changing the name of the power.

So there is no valid reason to change Omnipathy.SageM (talk) 03:15, July 16, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Did you move all the users from the old-version of Omnipathy to the Telepathy page? also I think Cosmic Telepathy should be removed since we got Remote Telepathy. CrabHermit (talk) 03:48, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Don't change the page names, seriously is it that hard to remember?
Seriously don't change the power names, its literally a rule. if you want to add omnipathy to the also called thats fine. But don't change the page name itself.

I am going to change it back now and add it to the also called. Don't change it again.SageM (talk) 03:48, July 16, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Remove Cosmic Telepathy
I think we just went back to square one with what I was trying to do.

Now Cosmic Telepathy sticks out like a sore thumb where as I wanted Omnipathy and Metapathy to be the same power and not to have a lesser or more powerful version to exist etc... We got Remote Telepathy as Cosmic Scale if you're looking for reference so could you add the Candidates for deletion category on that page or something? CrabHermit (talk) 03:55, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

You do realize that its going to changed back anyway, right?
You do realize that all your work is just going to be undone anyway, right? The rules are very clear about changing the page names. New names are supposed to go in the also called. As thats the entire point of them.

There is no reason to change the name as it can just be added to the also called.

Kuo has had the same argument over and over again with countless other users. And the same is going to happen with this page change as well.

I am just trying to save him the trouble of having to change it back, as he is going to tell you the exact same thing and then fix it himself.SageM (talk) 03:57, July 16, 2017 (UTC)SageM

My point is...
I get that but I mean we already have Remote Telepathy which it's also called is Cosmic Telepathy so a Cosmic Telepathy isn't needed and should just be marked for deletion.CrabHermit (talk) 03:59, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

We really don't need a middle ground tbh... like Telepathy is the low, middle and high ground and Omnipathy is like "screw your grounds I do what I want"... so I really can't say that Cosmic Telepathy (Not Remote Telepathy) can stay as a independent power...CrabHermit (talk) 04:03, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Join the Chat
Join the Chat so we don't have to spam each others talk page on this topic.

I'm also inviting SageM but I don't know if he will join or not.CrabHermit (talk) 04:11, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

OK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:34, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

When you make it
When you make the "Cosmic Telekinesis" or Nigh Omnikinesis, let me know because I might be able to help around here and there, you could meet with me again on the chat if you want to discuss when you're free. CrabHermit (talk) 06:55, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry,just said that for reference and that's why I put quotation marks around it. CrabHermit (talk) 08:24, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

For Hypercompetence, couldn't you cut off a large chunk of the the Talents section by just putting Enhanced Condtion instead of having a giant list of things, it should fit pretty well since you already got Supernatural Condtion in the associations.

Also you could replace the Limited Logic Manipulation with Living Anomaly as that kind fits better. CrabHermit (talk) 09:04, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Never mind, I just kinda went ahead and did it myself. CrabHermit (talk) 09:36, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

DYBAD Can you please put back the paint absorption page.

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 18:25, July 16, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

DYBAD i know you mean well, but in my personal opinion. this Contributive thing doesn't matter, in the end what matters weather the power exist or not in fiction. this site is an encylopedia for powers, weather they are very contributive or not. whats the harm if its on the wiki?.

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 22:44, July 16, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

i can see your point of view, but still. a power is just a power. no matter its purpose or usefullness. i understand we can't have stupid powers like. self-blindness inducment and 1 second super strength. However This wiki is all about recording powers of all kind that has existed in ficition. there are many powers that i would love too kick off the wiki, but even if i had the choice of doing so i wouldn't do it because: 1. it's shows a great vairty in powers, 2. it meets all of the requirements Especially with there "there has to be a user" rule.

now that i think of it. Im pretty sure you're the only one putting this "Contributive Rule" in effect, also there are many powers here that are very Uncontributive, i doubt you can correct them all. besides whats wrong with having so many powers on the wiki?

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 00:10, July 17, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

also, what comes after this late stage? what happens next? Who's going to take over? What powers are going to stay and go?

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 00:12, July 17, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

Another thing, sorry if i came off harsh. No Offense

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 00:13, July 17, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

Question, do yoy know how to add my characther to the characther sheet list?Irakih (talk) 00:56, July 17, 2017 (UTC)Irakih

alright final stage, can you describe more what happens in this final stage? and what happens after that? this new rule chanfe will change this wiki for the better or for the worse.

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 02:08, July 17, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

That does sound good on paper, but i don't know if it will work on practice. We Have over 8000 powers on this wiki, how the hell are you going to check them all?. The main thing im worried about this ruleis that it will decrease motivation for this wiki. Im mean creating powers willy nilly and all of a sudden we get a huge rule slapped on us? i just fear this rule will become extremely umpopular.

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 03:34, July 17, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

alright, it just that this rule feels so akward to me, I'm a little bit skeptical of it.

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 04:15, July 17, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

I thought that was removing them? Must have skipped that part...

There are marked differences between environmental areas, both in scientific (animals, area, etc) and symbolic/conceptual level. If CS did his research on the page I provided the latter should be on the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:38, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

If you want to talk about the usefulness of power, please don't do it on my page... -_-; Just tell you're talking about it and tell what you think afterwards. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:44, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

You mean "There are marked differences between environmental areas, both in scientific (animals, area, etc) and symbolic/conceptual level. If CS did his research on the page I provided the latter should be on the page."?

First is pretty much what wikipedia tells about it. Second you find by googling symbology/mythology, or in this case checking here. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

Considering I don't remember agreeing that...

Anyway, that Purity Manipulation CS proposed?

CS & cie? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:09, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

I cleared things on Lordship category but people don't bother reading what the categories actually mean before adding them.

Even if he does, I believe you told you'd talk with CS. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:24, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

Dad fell from roof that day (renovations), so no wonder I couldn't remember it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:18, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

Few bruised/cracked ribs and two weeks without work. Considering he's over 60, fell 3+ meters on his back with 5m 2x4, that's minor miracle. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:15, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

It was on grass and the soil was turned over last spring so it was pretty soft, but little to left would have meant falling on rock shoulder first.

He seems to be getting better already, but I think that the general agreement is that he won't be allowed to work on very high places anymore. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:38, July 17, 2017 (UTC)

There's a reason I've been avoiding Peak Human (X) like a plague... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Say, DYBAD, did you ever get back to Kuo about the Purity Manipulation page I asked him about?

Also, how are these?

Rigidity Inducement: The ability to induce full rigidity, leaving a person or object with no flexibility or elasticity.

Motionless Movement: The ability to move one's body locomotively without moving their body parts or moving a single muscle.

Force Inversion: The ability to make it so a push becomes a pull and a pull becomes a push, causing pushes to attract things instead of repelling them and vice versa. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:59, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

And what exactly did you mean when you said "seem" as in "don't seem promising"? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:19, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Not to mention, Rigidity Inducement has been approved before, before the whole rule change thing, and it would be an opposite of Rigidity Removal.

Okay, how about this one, Long Stride? You heard of the Seven League Boots in fiction, right? Well, this power does the same effect, which is covering many or several miles in one step. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:22, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:11, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Very well, then. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:32, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Frankly it would need complete overhaul to be usable. Aside that, it could have some use but nothing truly new/interesting. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:16, July 19, 2017 (UTC)

When you come right to it, paint is no more unlikely matter for constructs than water, ink, or gas/air.

Point about Meat Generation replacing Meat Vision, go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:21, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

I know how to make this work.
Thats why I said I would keep it too only things that could truly be defined in terms of a network.

Also some networks do have a tangible physical existence, such as the human's bodys network of biological systems that keep you alive, or if you want a somewhat broader term, a network of caverns in a cave system is a physical tangible example of a network(though I am not going to be adding something like that to the power, I plan to keep neatly and accurately defined so that it can be its own actual power.)

Besides a few powers on here already are examples of networks anyway- such as media manipulation, internet manipulation, event manipulation, data manipulation, biological manipulation, relationship manipulation, and etc.

So there is a basis for this to be its own unique and separate power.

Besides, I have made a lot of powers before that are both general and broad, so I know how to make it work.SageM (talk) 04:56, July 21, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Besides broad powers do have their own place on this wikia, after all thats the main reason why he have the Umbrella Powers category. ^^SageM (talk) 05:04, July 21, 2017 (UTC)SageM

I admit that paint and ink do get close enough that deleting PC wouldn't complicate things.

BTW, please tell me you've deleted Meat Vision from other pages. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:05, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

It does make it kind of difficult to come up with new power ideas if I am automatically shot down before I even get to try, besides there are so many new and upcoming power ideas out there that can't be so easily defined and yet they automatically get a pass to be on here.

Not every power can be perfectly defined or explained, sure we try the best we can but were only human... not omnscient gods who are the literal fonts of creativity.

If every power had to be perfectly explained and defined as what you seem to be asking for these days, then this wikia would be a lot more empty then it is now, in fact I would say over half the powers on here would be deleted if thats what your trying to get.

I am not asking you to change, I am just saying there is some room for compromise.

Not every power is going to be totally perfect for the wikia at first, but as newer ideas come along they will end up having a place on here. On that much I am sure we can agree.SageM (talk) 05:30, July 21, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Something like in cartoons? You know, paint hole on the wall and it's real, etc. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:52, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

Could be.

Doesn't Mickey use something like that on games? It's either paint or ink. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:29, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

It's very good trick, and versatile. Just think what you could do with it in real life... --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:04, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

Insane potential right there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:39, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

G-TBC (boy what a name...) got to agree with you, so lets keep it.

"useful and special" : useful/usable is something I've used to describe doable powers, but special is pretty subjective even under best conditions. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:33, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

Only making powers based on Useful or Special descriptions actually leaves out a lot of usage from a majority of the categories.

Besides there are some powers on here that aren't useful or special, they just are. Which is why we have the Silly Powers category. though I am not saying we should keep making more powers that fit into that category, I am simply saying that not every power out there is going to fit nicely into either of those two definitions of what a power should be.

Sometimes your going to have make exceptions to new powers. Also, variations are good for powers and not all of them are going to be copycat variations. Some are going to be unique in there own right but if you shoot down every power variation idea that comes out because its not special or useful enough its going to make it difficult in the long run to decide what actually fits here or not.

In fact from the new anime thats been released this season, a lot of new powers aren't going to fit into either mold of useful or special, but they are unique and they may have other uses in the future.

The ultimate example of this would have to be JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, as over 90 percent of the powers on that series are a complete joke, but they still manage to have a lot of possible uses.

Defining what powers should be on here or not, is going to become slightly more difficult in the future, as not everything can be so clear as to what fits and what doesn't.

Well thats about all I have to say on this. SageM (talk) 04:57, July 23, 2017 (UTC)SageM

"Geo-Thermokinetic" to "Magma" - I'm not even trying to check all links... And thanks, good job.

Got to agree with you about the copy-paste: tho that was originally created to cover as many options/things as possible (and still works well on that), way too many people have just added the relevant elements/thing and left it to that. At least bit more relevant info about what the power does would be nice. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:36, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

Of course some powers are bit hard to spice up, but adding a bit shows you aren't just spamming them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:26, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

MA is usable if bit unoriginal, MG I leave to your decision. But please don't merge them, attacks and generation don't have that much in common. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:40, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

Somewhat common misconception: creation/generation does literally just that. There's no control/shaping aside, at best, the direction and/or amount/intensity, which is why they have blast and aura on Applications: point and let go or just spread the generated matter/energy to all directions. If you're limited to low level of production you're out of luck.

Attacks on the hand need varying amounts of control to get the effect you want: blast is the low end effect, Entity Creation for example is on the top when it comes to needed finesse. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:23, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

Answered above, and it's a no. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, July 25, 2017 (UTC)

Generation/Manipulation is the closest thing as, aside the least defined/controlled attacks, they need to be shaped/controlled, some to very high decree indeed.

Tho as it says in Attack Limitations, some Users can't create the matter/energy and have to shape existing ones.

Fused Shapeshifting feels still bit clunky, but at least more descriptive than Nanomorphamerge. You'll change the links? --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:52, July 25, 2017 (UTC)

Merging Shapeshifting sounds usable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:06, July 25, 2017 (UTC)

RS and RF do get close at some areas, but there are differences. Aside of RS having broader applications, the difference is that surfings are about riding on the matter/energy and using it to affect the movement, flying means being in the matter/energy.

Sorry if that isn't very clear, still waking up... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:22, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

what are you even talking about

Slapson (talk) 00:00, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

DYBAD
DYBAD! I NEED YO HELP NIGGA! HELP ME!

(respond when ya can) Stanky! (talk) 00:46, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

oh, that thread wasn't really anything anyway, it was just nonsensical stuff

sorry for the misunderstanding

Slapson (talk) 04:13, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Welp, now you just need to add Psychic Immunity to all powers where Psychic Shield is in Limitations... :p --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:51, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Psychic Shield is one of the oldest powers, and as the main defense against mental attacks... -_-; ouch.

"Users of Psychic Shield (highly resistant) and Psychic Immunity (impervious)." feels bit clunky, but no way I'm going to start fixing all the pages. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:01, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Might want to re-check before posting, I'll have to fix few changes. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:20, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Just check the ones I've Edited just now. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:25, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

I think you just pulled one of the largest Edit-splurges anyone has done by themselves. Go ahead and reward yourself somehow, you've earned it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:52, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Does Power Anchoring protect power users against Power Borrowing? CrabHermit (talk) 03:41, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

So deleting every other power aside of pure Elements that isn't those three? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:38, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Just so you know, when they ask why those were deleted I'll throw them to you. :)

That said, well done Mimicry/Physiology would also be worth keeping. Not so well done... well, either work on it or delete. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

I know, but remember that people do ask when their new shiny power gets removed.

With understanding that powers that are particularly well made/interesting can stay, quite reasonable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:19, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Come to think about Constructs could be usable as well, but I think that anything after that is very much case by case and only if it's very good/interesting. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:42, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:10, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

can we also have transmutation, for the manipulation powers? transforming something is quite useful. no matter what the element is.

nickthebrick1

Mistakes Were Made
Yo, DYBAD. I made an honest mistake in the comments of Peak Human Condition and turned it into a needless debate. I would appreciate your thoughts on it, and if my comment thread could be deleted. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Peak_Human_Condition GunMetalGrey (talk) 01:50, August 1, 2017 (UTC)GunMetalGrey

Pretty much meh as far as I can see. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:41, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

Yes. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:15, August 3, 2017 (UTC)

As long as they follow the same patterns as Enhanced/Supernatural powers do, that'll work for me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:55, August 3, 2017 (UTC)

OK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:47, August 3, 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:12, August 4, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your time. GunMetalGrey (talk) 09:19, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

Power Changes
Hey DYBAD, I recently came up with a power idea in response to Almighty Magic and Almighty Science, since we had these Omnipotent versions of Magic and Science and we do have Cyberpotence which is the Nigh Omnipotent to Omnipotent version of Technological All-might (I don't know, it's a weird power just look at it on your own time), I wanted to create a "Almighty Psionics" or atleast re-arrange a few powers to fix the order...

You see, Psionics has some weird page that is called Psionic Manipulation, now this is weird because it's basically Psionics potential capabilities by itself and Psionic Manipulation is like a Psionic version of Omni-Magic, now while keeping this in mind, there are already 2 Nigh Omnipotence versions of Psionics which is Absolute Psionic Power and Psychopotence...

I want to change Absolute Psionic Power to a Omnipotent version of Psionics while making Psionic Manipulation become the Nigh Omnipotent version but I'm not sure how to pull it off or if I should pull it off to begin with.

Please give me your opinion on my talk-page, thanks. CrabHermit (talk) 08:53, August 4, 2017 (UTC)

So you can merge them? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:27, August 6, 2017 (UTC)

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the various levels of jumping though? i mean all the other enhanced, supernatural and absolute powers have there levels separated into different pages.SageM (talk) 04:37, August 6, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Sounds like a plan. But remember to check Users/Gallery so they go to right power. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:54, August 6, 2017 (UTC)

Pretty good change, tho you might want to comb SL's Users for those who belong to EL.

Just little brain fart, nothing more. You might be interested to know that you've joined those who's full-page Edits mess the collapsed Galleries. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:57, August 8, 2017 (UTC)

Fist two times just add extra line between between section title and code below while moving title up to previous sections coding, third messes how the Gallery looks. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, August 9, 2017 (UTC)

(づ｡｡)づ Good morning onii-chan see you when you join the chat. Imouto 01:36, August 12, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Got to agree with you, might move Users/pics to Blood Attacks but that's about it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:35, August 14, 2017 (UTC)

Hey DY, i know you said that Paint Absorption was too specific. but i think i have some ideas on how this power can be useful. what to hear it?

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 01:37, August 15, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

Ok, thanks for getting my powers deleted I guess. CrabHermit (talk) 03:06, August 15, 2017 (UTC)

Not really the response I was expecting but duly noted... CrabHermit (talk) 03:31, August 15, 2017 (UTC)

mind locking this page?
Hey, can you lock the multiple lives page? Kira's kage keeps adding back a user that has never had the power in any way shape or form. As a save point is not the same thing as having multiple lives. As its closer to temporal resurrection or respawning. but he doesn't care to listen to what anyone says regardless if its the truth or not, the only thing that can be done is lock the page so he stops.

I already tried talking to him on his talk page and the comments but he just plans to ignore them and repost it anyway.SageM (talk) 06:40, August 15, 2017 (UTC)SageM

I got permission from Kuo to make those organic pages and Organic Manipulation is a Umbrella power. CrabHermit (talk) 21:50, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

Also, Organic Manipulation isn't a variation of Elemental Manipulation so this doesn't really apply to your "policy" as I am making Organic Attacks variations have their own versions of certain applications rather then use the same one every time...CrabHermit (talk) 21:55, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry
First and foremost, sorry for putting that I was kinda upset at the time and was like "yeah that will show him" but I'm long over it so I'll remove that, I also understand why my blood powers were deleted however these organic powers DO seem not too specific as I made them to cover over other Organic Attacks variations and not for that sole power alone, they don't seem to fit your policy of being too specific as I had intent to put it on other powers, but overall, I apologize for my immaturely behavior on my profile and will look forward to Kuo's "stance" even though he already approved of my additions. CrabHermit (talk) 22:36, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure I follow, Does your policy mean you want to get rid of every power Attack Powers variation and remove any sub-powers included to these Attack Powers? This really doesn't seem justified to delete my powers as I did have intent to make them "not too specific" but "specific enough to cover other powers", so yes it could be the "focus point" but that's the whole point of having variations. (EDIT: I forgot to mention but I meant the sub-powers for Organic Attacks not my sub-powers for Blood Attacks.) CrabHermit (talk) 22:46, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

I understand completely as spam can be annoying, I do believe that you will find these powers being contributing as soon as people realize where to add their "specific" powers to the more generalized but focused power. CrabHermit (talk) 23:05, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

As they deal with whole section of other powers, I gave it a go ahead. Better have general power covering Organics than people making powers for the Variations, not to mention it gives place to collect already existing powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:15, August 22, 2017 (UTC)

Hey, i was wondering if i could get the discord chat link Shale Evans (talk) 23:44, August 22, 2017 (UTC)

yo, i am on now Shale Evans (talk) 05:57, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Would i be able to have that link now?Shale Evans (talk) 12:31, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Good Night
Good night DYBAD onii-chan っゝω・)っ Imouto 07:50, August 24, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Poke
I'm waiting for you back on Discord. Imouto 06:47, September 4, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Cya
Good nighty night DYBAD Imouto 14:30, September 8, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Hey DYBAD I just want to ask you something about the Psychic Immunity page that you created. My questions are this:

1. Can you put the power in different level so that there would a different tier from basic to absolute immunity? The reason I am asking this is because I want to see an Absolute Psychic Immunity page where there would not be a limitation even to immunity bypassing.

2. If Bella is put as a user in this page, you need to add something to the capability and that is "The user can remove their immunity to allow a telepath to read their mind" just like Bella did to allow Edward to see her Memories and read her thoughts at the end of Twilight Breaking Dawn Part 2.

Speaking of Bella, I think she should be on the Psychic Sheld page, but not like everybody, because her power is not a resistance, it is an Absolute level of Psychic Shiled. SupremeDoctor (talk) 03:34, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Can you block this user? they keep changing the language of pages they edit....
Hi, can you please block the user Arkwrigth? He keeps changing the language of the pages he edits, which requires several undo's to fix all his changes.

Thanks.SageM (talk) 00:02, September 12, 2017 (UTC)SageM

Blacksunshine1 (talk) 00:54, September 12, 2017 (UTC)Blacksunshine1

A while ago it said that my account got banned from all wikis for no reason. It said that I got banned for global vandalizing when I haven't done anything. It said earlier an started on August 31st and would last till December 1st but the last time I edited was today when I helped someone proofread. I'm on my tablet and don't  know how to put things on talk pages so I don't now if I did this right.

Hi, do you mind blocking the user Arkwrigth‎? He has already been warned twice to stop changing the language of the pages he edits, and he still continues to do so.

Thanks for your time.SageM (talk) 01:29, September 13, 2017 (UTC)SageM

っゝω・)っ Hoooi
See you on the Discord later Imouto 21:58, September 21, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

See you tonight Imouto 00:38, September 24, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Hello, DYBAD
Hi DYBAD.

I'd like to ask something important that boggles my mind now... What does make an admin so much better than a regular user, that when an admin insults an user, nothing would happen to them, but when an user insults an admin, they'd get banned?

Thank you for your answer.--Solipsius (Dreamer) (talk) 12:54, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

Quick Question
Yo, DYBAD. Just one question. What's the difference between a Form/Expression of Omnipotence and a Variation of Omnipotence? The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 02:13, October 1, 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh, okay. I was asking because of my attempt to build a cosmology using the variations and forms omnipotence.  The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 02:39, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Old chap
DYBAD, Old buddy old pal.

anyway, getting to my point here. The boys over at CRP have been assholes and have kinda outcasted me for god knows why so I'm asking for an invite to your discord.

also, the invite in the chat is expired....best to make those thinks infinite.

~The technomancer

Made new awesome 😎 updates on John sheet with new pics I think you gonna love Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

Made the updates I promised earlier and I pretty sure their just awesome as the last major Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

hay
Hay DYBAD I think you talk to kuo about your awesome Entity Lordship page cause he just got rid of all the cool details application from it, and honestly that's made a real masterpiece, and I hate it when he does that especially to amazing powers.. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

Not really, just figured that since the all sub-power/etc. are covered by default by the power, why add the lesser powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:53, November 14, 2017 (UTC)

OK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:51, November 14, 2017 (UTC)

Hello
Join the Wikia chat please (づ｡｡)づ Imouto 01:11, November 19, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Nevermind Discord is up again Imouto 01:12, November 19, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

May you please rejoin the chat? I have learned my lesson about getting mad at you for only trying to help me. Imouto 01:57, December 11, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan User talk:Imouto-tan

Fear Mastery
Wasn't there a page by this name? I can't seem to find it anywhere. The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 06:28, December 11, 2017 (UTC)

If you don't  mind, could you link me the page's details? I really like the concept and would like to expound upon it for a future character I'm thinking of. The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 00:28, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Ooops. Forgot. The page I was referring to was Fear Mastery, and the details I meant where like "capabilities", "applications", and things such as that. The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 01:04, February 18, 2018 (UTC)

Image usage
Hello,

I am looking for the owner of an image found here:

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/File:AR4.jpg

I would like to use the image for a print project and need to get permisson from the copyright holder. Can you help me?

Steveruem (talk) 14:28, December 21, 2017 (UTC)Steve Ruemmele

Ask SageM. --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:17, December 25, 2017 (UTC)

More on the line that he pointed it was too close to existing power in comments and I can't remember which on it was. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:25, December 26, 2017 (UTC)

i didnt post porn so

Slapson (talk) 22:51, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

I can almost guarantee you that they have more than enough common sense to understand that my page was tame compared to several other blogs on here.

Would you like me to show you those blogs?

Slapson (talk) 00:08, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Don't dodge the question.

Slapson (talk) 02:02, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

lawsuit powers
Hi DYBAD! I was thinking of a power related to lawsuits [I'm not making an idea for a page]. That power would be, file a lawsuit to anybody and always win no matter how ridiculous the lawsuit is. I know it's stupid, but it's something. What uses can you think of for this power?

ANDY3556 (talk) 17:59, January 6, 2018 (UTC)

I made a page testing the infobox.

ANDY3556 (talk) 12:03, January 8, 2018 (UTC)

JPG day, because every page you're following is a JPG file!

-andrew

Rules and Accuracy
Dear admin, I come to you to discuss the issue of accuracy of one of the superpowers, currently Hell Water Manipulation. My issue is, the only times Hell has been stated to have water was in Dante's Inferno, which uses Hade's rivers. My suggestion/attempt to make it more accurate was to rename it Underworld Water, because Hell doesn't have water, and most users use water from underworlds not Hell. My issue is one of the rules, which one of the contributers used to try to keep the pages inaccurate and exclusive to Hell, is not to change a page "for your benefit". The issue is, that means nobody can add uses, users, applications, better grammar and sentence structure, etc.

You can bring others into the debate, as in the comments it's a 1v1 on it.

My request for consideration of edits is, should there not be an exception to that rule if it's just for accuracy of the power, or explain that "for your benefit" means something specific and not vague? And should the Hell Water Manipulation page be renamed to Underworld Water Manipulation, or even Underworld Liquid Manipulation considering the idea of Hell's lava? The latter name is, of course, a possible example of the afformentioned specific form of "for your benefit".

Points for:

Hell has no water, except in one specific instance

Said instance seems erroneously translated or misused, as the examples are from Greek mythology, not Christian like where Hell is from. My theory is that Inferno/Hell was a misused or mistranslated term for "a form of eternal damnation"

Most users who get water from Hell are in fact adding demonic power to normal water, which is stated to be an application for the ability, however said water is not FROM Hell

From what I've seen, those that get it from a specific location get it from places "Like Hell", but not Hell itself.

Points against:

A rule that, as stated above, is really too limiting, possibly due to vagueness

Tradition

A single instance in a latin poem that could easily be a misused term or mix of religions, in which nobody uses the ability, so even if we take it at translated value, does it even count? Actual sources say Hell does not have water, it's a land of fire and lava

Thank you for your time, I hope you understand where I am coming from this. MiasmicSiren (talk) 08:55, January 19, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 19:36, February 24, 2018 (UTC)

Hello,DYBAD I just wanted to ask that in the webcomics named "minus" is everything a dream(I mean a literal dream not that reality dreaming metaphor)of minus? I am asking this to you as I urgently need this knowledge and you seem to know about this minus.Please do reply to my talk page, I really need this information:-).

Nekron2 (talk) 09:36, February 25, 2018 (UTC)So, I wanted to ask that if there are any user of reality dreaming for whom the reality is literally a dream(not metaphor) except for azothoth?

Nekron2 (talk) 17:40, February 26, 2018 (UTC)Can on reality dreaming page this could be added on the second page-"Even if users choose to be erased or destroyed completely they will still be not be destroyed/erased as in what they were destroyed was simply their dream and it will only appear that they have been destroyed/erased thus rendering their existence truly and absolutely indestructible."

Do you know any users for my upcoming page, "Meta Love Inducement," besides mythological characters? I got the idea of "meta emotions from Meta Fear Inducement. Halliemj (talk) 22:50, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

(づ｡｡)づ hooooooi Imouto 12:56, March 12, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan User talk:Imouto-tan

He he he I just wanted to give you a sneak huggles Imouto 20:52, March 12, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Pronunciation of Username
Dybad, is the Dy part of your username pronounced like dee or like die? --Chris Urena (talk) 06:32, March 14, 2018 (UTC)

Dybad, what's taking so long for you to respond? Õ.o

It usually doesn't take you this long to make a reply. --Chris Urena (talk) 00:01, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

I see a lot of people talk to you on a daily basis, DYBAD. And that combined with all the work you have to deal with in real life also doesn't always make you available to converse with, at least not at the immediate (like I may often expect considering my lack of patience) time.

Also, I honestly used to think that your username was pronounced "die-BAD". But, OK. --Chris Urena (talk) 14:56, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

boop
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ nini Imouto 12:57, March 31, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Nekron2 (talk) 19:55, April 1, 2018 (UTC)Can you just block user Piedogaron as he/she is just trolling around and is really making this foolish swagnipotence again and again.Please block him.

When the shoe fits... --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:59, April 2, 2018 (UTC)

Good Morning
Hey DYBAD I hope that you slept well

(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ Imouto 00:52, April 8, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Nekron2 (talk) 05:03, April 8, 2018 (UTC)Hello,can we change the name of metapotence page to patapotence.Its capabilities are cleary greater than pataphysics manipulation but people still continue to mistake pataphysics manipulation to be more powerful even after metapotence is also called patapotence(in the Also Called section).As the original patapotence page cannot be created why not rename metapotence as patapotence entirely?

Good night DYBAD Imouto 12:35, April 9, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Nekron2 (talk) 16:29, April 9, 2018 (UTC)As i went deeper in the concept of metapotence I found that there is nothing different in metapotence and omnipotence.It is by no means "simplified" variation of omnipotence,it is omnipotence.I mean there is no such thing that an omnipotent being could do and a metapotent user cannot.

Once,you or probably someone else said that it was created to explain the feats of omnipotence.If it is such case then shouldn't you make that out clear on the page itself as many thing it just being able to control logic and thus is weaker than pataphysics manipulation,etc.

Please do reply as this is extremely confusing and when I asked Koupfi abot this he/she told me to ask this to you.

Sneak huggles
Hi hi Imouto 22:08, April 15, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Hello, I'm new here since yesterday, and I'd really like to be a part of the Discord server. Would you mind giving me the invite please? Thank you. ChillAngon (talk) 20:53, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

I'm going to make my story in the beginning I existed I am omnipotent omniscient omnipresent I have physical godhood I have Omni embodiment I have absolute omnipotence

I cannot be created or destroyed can't even think of reaching mine power I have defeated gods and demons and I know what it is to be both human and God I can walk in between the planes as easily as they come and remain absolutely immortal an impervious to harm soldiers run in Terror when they see me

All of creation Bend to my will I am the Omniverse I am creation I am above all I am creation I am destruction I am all God I am nothing and I am everything I have all Concepts and no concept I no thoughts and all thoughts I am the singularity I am Goku I I am beerus I am Cthulhu I am death yet I am none of all my thoughts are my own my will is my own I am on the I am an omni creator

I have been throughout reality and Beyond I have seen time and space break pieces billions trillions and put it back together the new I have ended the universe and the Omniverse and restarted it again and recreated again as well no man no God nothing could feather my power

I appear in whatever for my desire man does not know what form I will this appear in I have all power all knowledge I am all seeing I am everywhere and nowhere at once I have complete Arsenal II have complete Mastery of true power I have meta summoning I am beyond everything and I am everything you and I can walk amongst man and walk the planes of the Gods

I am a god that possesses one man army ,Special Ops Mastery

The Sharingan the Rinnegan and all dojutsu and all kekkei genkai as well infinite chakra as well as all Sage modes and states and empowerment I I have never suffered blindness using Izanagi and izanami I have use all forms of sage mode and kekkei genkai and men's work without limitations to my body where I am a god I Am Without Limits I am beyond such limitation

I could snap my fingers and reshape reality I could Snap My Fingers and kill you I can snap my fingers and resurrect you I feel what I feel as I was once human but I am beyond human now with no human weaknesses

I am a badass I am a lover I am a warrior I am a god I am the god of God I am the omnipotent being

It always existed

I have consumed the power of the of the Olympian gods from the DC Universe Doctor Manhattan and consume his powers of the presents and I have traveled to the world of Marvel Cinematic Universe ever defeated and absorb the power the one above all

I'm absorbing Lord beerus is power and Goku's power

As well as celestials I win against Lucifer Morningstar and absorbed his power I went to the world of Supernatural and absorbed every Supernatural entity from demon to Angel the Gods power even reverse why because I could even went as far as to go learn from the source wall I fought Darkseid he was completely decimated by the end I was given the power to Sage of the six paths even though I could have taken it

I fight against Darth Vader and Darth Sidious and won they feared me ever return I travel to the dark side or universe do you want to work for the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse Road

Many things I collected and many Powers absorbed

Then I traveled to Albion the Fable universe to see The Guild of Heroes and to learn from them learn their powerful man who can add it to myself

That's a God I am powerful but I got a hero God I am more power I can be whatever I desire I traveled the Video Game World absorbing knowledge abilities even technology and magick even the power of other gods I absorb the power of the Daedra and the aedra from the Elder Scrolls now I will return to my world more powerful more then I was before I was also trained by John Wick and Agent 47 and Sam Fisher and Solid Snake In all aspects now I am the Ultimate Warrior God and more but I can choose to be whatever kind of God I am

I absorb the power of all creation of mother as well

I have Absolute Condition

I killed Superman gold Prime and absorb this powers

I have Divine Power Bestowal I can give anyone I see worthy my power

I can Deification anyone I see wording

I use Alternate-Self Learning to learn for my alternate selves and Future Self

I use Alternate-Self Summoning summoning alternate self and future selves

I use Alternate-Self Absorption absorbing alternate self and future selves

I am truly a force to be reckoned with Will strength to be beyond comprehension and can reshape my form to better suit my environment my power is immeasurable

I have given Ability Imprinting,Enhanced Ability Learning,Ability Transcendence,Ability Mastering, Ability Intuition,Accelerated Development ,Accelerated Body Development I can use all these abilities easily and these are only a small amount of my ability

I use Alternate-Selves Contacting communicate with alternate self and future self

I can use Almighty Replication and Almighty Ascension

This is just miniscule of my power I am all-powerful all-knowing and all seen and I'll present

I have gained full use of the Power Sources,Transcendent Powers,Divine Powers, Omni powers

I can use it all very easily the power of a god omnipotence and Beyond

I have killed and absorbed the power of the most powerful gods and beings to have ever walked the face of existence and added their abilities into my own. Not that I needed it anyway I just wanted it for my collection But these being still exist with all their powers only a portion of their power but not as powerful as they used to be because I allow it I can manipulate the weather I have all the abilities of kaguya otsutsuki and the ten-tails I have Efficient Body, Deity Manipulation ,Deity Creation, Soul Powers ,Primordial Powers,Lordship Powers,Spiritual Powers,Enhanced Assassination,Weapon Proficiency, Enhanced Swordsmanship,Badassery,Sexual Instinct,Stealth Tactics,Enhanced Accuracy,Pressure Point Intuition,Meta Powers,Fighting Instinct,100 Percent Muscle Usage ,Seduction Intuition,Enhanced Charisma,Overwhelming Influence ,Weapon Proficiency Touch,

3 days ago by Gat21

I creative fanfiction to get omnipotence do meta ability Creations subliminals and some interesting effects I'm feeling some vibrations and some late in abilities of the stories are Awakening small abilities but abilities how can I use it

the major differences....
So the main differences between the powers are-

1. Nonexistence- wipes away the existence of things, either concrete or abstract so that they were essentially never made.

2. Absolute Destruction- The type of destruction were everything is made to fall apart so that existence itself is essentially eradicated.

3. Conclusion Dominance- the power to end anything/everything thus completing the work that the other two powers may have made.

4. Omni Wipe- Improving on the above, this does away with everything so completely that no force or being can ever bring it back again, regardless of the nature of that power. Thus making it the ultimate end to everything. The book is essentially closed for good. And can never be opened again.

So the major differences between the power are one erases things from existence so as if they were never made.

one destroys things so completely that rebuilding should would take an act of god.

The other ensures that the destruction can't be rebuilt

And the last one does away with all of it, basically bringing everything to a state of Absolute Not.

There you go. Hope that explains it all.SageM (talk) 05:58, April 25, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Nekron1 (talk) 13:45, April 27, 2018 (UTC)Hello,I know that nonexistence has returned to its former status(I appreciate that) but I do still think that meta power immunity shall still be immune/extremely resistant to it,so I am adding it as a limitation.

If you disagree with me,I appreciate it,in that case please remove my edit and let's discuss it out instead.

Oh really? Then why do we have this power if thats the case?
Oh really? Then whats the point and purpose of this power- Fantasy World Enforcement.

That basically enforces the fact that something doesn't actually exist and makes you believe that it does. Meaning that it is a valid application for transcending everything.

So yes, according to the basis of that power. You can transcend things that don't exist.SageM (talk) 01:07, April 28, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Fiction/Fantasy/Unreality- That which does not actually exist, has no substance/ethereal, unreal, nonexistent, imaginary, dreamlike.

Thats the exact definition of Fantasy/Fiction, something that is imaginary or that does not actually exist.

So yes, Fantasy World Enforcement is basically enforcing something that isn't real or that doesn't actually exist.

Just like Real World Enforcement forces things that are fake or unreal to follow the standards of our world.

Your basically disagreeing with the confirmed and proven defintion of the word.

So if your saying that Fantasy World Enforcement doesn't work like that, then how come powers like Fictional Material Generation and Fictional Mimicry work by making things that don't exist, exist?

Thats the entire point of fiction-based and imagination-based powers after all.SageM (talk) 03:41, April 28, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Thats not really a valid reason for it to be removed.
Why should the fact its self terminating be a factor in why it can't exist? We already have several powers that are already suicidal/self-destructive by their very nature and yet we consider them to be valid enough to stay.

So your argument doesn't really hold any water when you go by that.

Besides a lot of powers don't really make a lot of sense when you get down to the basics of them, and yet they have remained on this wikia.

Powers like Meta-Concept Manipulation, Pataphysics Manipulation, and Diverse Interface are hard enough to explain or are too far beyond the understanding of the people on this wikia, and yet we keep them.

So give me a good reason why it can't stay. And I don't mean because its self-terminating as thats not really a valid reason. As a lot of powers already do that. I want an actual reason that I haven't already covered.SageM (talk) 08:05, April 28, 2018 (UTC)SageM

"If you transcend everything, then you lose all personal qualities/definitions and all connections/interactions to everything else, which for all intents and purposes amounts to wiping yourself out of existence (notably explained in the Umineko series when crossing the final "Creator" threshold), making the power not only useless but even self-terminating by nature." How does transcending something make you lose ability to perceive that thing? Because that'd mean that someone with Meta Transcendence wouldn't be able to perceive any form of limitation in nature or others. Or more to the point, wouldn't perceive them having limitations.

BTW, either I'm missing something or you two have been talking about fiction/unreal and not OT... --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:15, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

So someone who transcends something won't be able to perceive that thing? That means that MT user won't be able to perceive the thing they have transcendent. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:33, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Physical Nonexistence and Nonexistent Physiology would already cover that facet of the users being then. And both of them are valid powers.

Transcending everything means you are truly free and can do whatever you please, The Creator of Umineko is able to Create and do anything it wishes even if its free of all restrictions.

Yes you may lose all meaning, but in the long run is that really a necessary thing for a supreme being? The highest level beings in fiction are usually already beyond any hope of understanding or restrictions and yet they still manage to do whatever the heck they want.

Also we have users of Cosmic Otherness and Unknown Existence, which are both beyond understanding of any form.

So what your stating in the end is meaningless, it doesn't matter if they don't have a physical self as we could understand i.. As half the time, there not supposed too.

Identity really only applies to lesser beings. Transcendent and Abstract beings don't have that worry as they are usually omnipresent or are considered part of the Unity of everything.SageM (talk) 09:54, April 28, 2018 (UTC)SageM

One source doesn't make it universal rule. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:11, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Considering that one way to describe omnipotence/omnipotent being is to say that the user transcends/is above/beyond everything? --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:07, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

(eye-roll) Lesser man would offer you a mirror.

I don't actually much care either way, I'm simply interested finding out exactly why you're so insistent that transcending everything means instant non-being. And how much of your insistence about that is based on the one source you keep quoting. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:55, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Because ultimately these things depends on the writers whims. If someone decided to go ahead and make being that transcendent everything while keeping their self they could just handwave it with ineffability of higher level beings and any arguments would be invalid.

TA was deleted some ten minutes before you posted this BTW, and because it was pointed out it was too close to Omnilock. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:25, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Please take a look at this...
Before you argue anymore about the Creator (Umineko) being merely a state of existence and not an actual entity, please take a look at this-

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/f/f1/When_They_Cry_8.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160513030046

This is taken from the game itself, and it states that the Creator does actually exist in some sense. As otherwise the first line and first sentence of the second line would state something else if what you said was actually the case.

Since this is actual proof taken from the game, I hope you can understand that your point in saying that its not possible for such a being to exist is technically incorrect.SageM (talk) 19:25, April 28, 2018 (UTC)SageM

How is this for a compromise?
I wasn't trying to nitpick the details DYBAD, I was simply saying that the case with the Creator isn't so clear cut and dry, as you imply that the Creator is a state of being. While another paragraph implies that it was also a force or power that can do anything.

Its hard to clarify just exactly what the Creator truly is. Other then it has no restrictions of any kind and whatever enters it is erased.

Since its impossible to say for certain whether its an actual entity that is nonexistent on some level or a state of being, perhaps we can agree that it might actually be both at the same time?

Since the information available on it seems to contradict itself, lets simply leave it be until we can know for certain what it is, Ok?SageM (talk) 02:27, April 29, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Ultimate Erasure??
Now that all the fluff has been removed from the UE page it looks even more like a carbon copy of Nonexistence. Why was it brought back again. Personally if there is a difference between the two I don’t see it. I think it should be deleted. What are your thoughts?--Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 01:07, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron1 (talk) 09:23, May 1, 2018 (UTC)Well,like nonexistence,I do think that author authority should also return to its former state.Being the author you can easily defeat omnilock,boundless infulence,non-creayed phisiology,etc and I don't think authority manipulation will be able to do anythink to the users.I think only the reader of the story(reader embodiment) can protect you from this.So, please tell me what do you think about this.

At this rate the wikia will be empty of powers....
Well at this point DYBAD you might as well start mass-deletions of powers. Because you have basically rendered most of the powers on here meaningless.

Removing the limitations from Author Authority effectivelly nullfies the point of those powers anymore, as they no longer have any definition or meaning.

In a sense you are breaking one of the very rules the wikia is based on, changing the power to suit your opinion.

Limitations of Author Authority-

4th Wall Breaching- The entire point of this power is the user can affect the author or reader fo the story directly by facing them in their own world. Removing the fact it can't effect the author or reader even though thats exactly what its supposed to do removes the very meaning and defintion of the power.

Omnilock- Reside outside of everything, if your outside of everything then you can't be affected by the author, because otherwise your not outside of everything and that is merely Isolation instead.

Origin Transcendence- Transcend your origin/creation/creator. If they do this, then how can the author hope to even effect them? If you transcend your creator and your still being effected by your creator then thats a contradiction and the power is meaningless.

You have basically ruined the purpose of these powers. So you might as well delete them because they no longer have any meaning.

If you keep this up, then the wikia will probably be as empty as the day it was founded....SageM (talk) 18:32, May 1, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Possible limitation for Nonexistence
I thought of another possible limitation for Nonexistence-

The power would be ineffective if used inside of a nonexistent realm, because there is nothing in the realm by definition, the power would lose all meaning and wouldn't be able to work.

As you can't erase something that's already nonexistent, so trying to erase someone or something that was sent there wouldn't work.

Its like trying to use reality warping in a place where reality doesn't exist.

Do you think that counts as a valid limitation for Nonexistence?SageM (talk) 19:24, May 1, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Please don't bring this up again.
We already had to deal with a mess about the Transcendent Physiology powers hours ago.

Please don't bring up this again, Ok?

The admins don't want to deal with it, we simply want to leave it be.SageM (talk) 03:48, May 8, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Thank you so much giving me headache the first thing this morning. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:23, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Its necessary for me to continue my work on the wikia.
It allows me to double check facts and information for powers I have asked about but haven't made yet.

Since I have asked about so many powers over the years, there are a lot that I haven't decided to make yet for various reasons. But I always plan to at some point.

And for some of the older requests I need to check if I gained confirmation to make it or if there is some important detail necessary for making the power in the reply message.

Thats why my talk page is like that. It necessary for me to continue my work on the wikia.SageM (talk) 05:02, May 8, 2018 (UTC)SageM

What do you think of all this?
So imouto apparently decided that Omnipotence needed an actual limitation, as his new power is basically just that.

Meta Bypassing is literally nothing more then Omnipotence Bypassing, which as this wikia as a community has always said otherwise.

I am not spreading lies or making up facts, as this is what Imouto seems to want to claim with this new power.

As an admin yourself, what do you think of this whole mess that Imouto seems to have started recently?SageM (talk) 01:06, May 9, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Sounds good, thanks for your time. ^_^SageM (talk) 01:43, May 9, 2018 (UTC)SageM

So whats your opinion after reviewing it all?
So after having a chance to sit through and watch this fire and giving your opinions on it, What do you personally think of it all?

Was the argument about it worth it? Or do you think the power should be removed?

I am not asking for you to remove it of course, just asking your opinion as an Admin on whether or not it should stay or go.

Its never dull around here, is it? ^^;;SageM (talk) 03:10, May 9, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Boop boop, check discord when you can, It's about IB, IR, PA and BI Omuni (talk) 03:11, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Not sure if you saw it on the power-discussions so I'll post it here. Omuni (talk) 04:11, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

the issue is, IB isn't in any way altering any superpowers, which is why it affects power anchoring and also why it doesn't have Immunity Bypassing but rather is a variation. It should also be noted that it's still a game of rock paper scissors.

Power Anchoring counters Immunity Removal Immunity Bypassing counters Power Anchoring Immunity Removal counters Bypassing Immunity Bypassing Immunity counters Immunity Bypassing

Plus again, as we spoke before with Dark; Immunities means complete immunity, it's not a resistance! There's no levels, like I said when Sage was debating with Immutability, Bypassing isn't altering the supernatural power but rather just ignoring it, similar to logic defiance. Again, it's all a game of who beats who similar to elemental battles. I'm totally with the other applications, but I heavily believe in what I said above ^ plus, there not being any superior levels of immunities; They aren't resistances. I also realized we kinda had this conversation before with Dark i'm pretty sure he said the same and came to the conclussion when you were there. So (politely of course!) I believe you should undo the edits you did.

Side Note: Having Power Anchoring and Bypassing Immunity together might make it a tad too op, hence why I suggested the system above! Immunity Bypassing > Power Anchoring > Immunity Removal > Bypassing Immunity > Immunity Bypassing. This also leaves a weak point for certain immunities without one and the other. Omuni (talk) 04:11, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Spring Cleaning this Site
I think we can agree that some level of spring cleaning is needed on this site, so I'm opening the talk with admins/mods which ones really should go or at least need work.

The Transcendent Physiology deletions were result of mis-communication/too much enthusiasm but there was some basis behind it. I have been considering deletion of few of the Variations at times, and from the commentary there is some interest from the members/admins/mods as well.

The other group seems to be meta/omni/absolute powers, some consideration over which ones are worth keeping and which are just slapping "works on every level/power" and should either be deleted or Edited to make them better.

So, what do you think? Powers you think should go/be Edited? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:16, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

I was thinking about creating a blog-page so the members know what's going on, but informing you lot first is the first thing before that.

First thing would be checking if any given power can be fixed to usable state, with deletion as the last measure.

I'll add "before creating absolute/meta/omni-powers, get approval of Admin/mod, first step is to explain how it isn't "just like (power) but more" to Rules. Any new powers that don't get approval can be deleted unless it's something really interesting. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:57, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

So we're on the same page with this.

Check the existing absolute/mega/omni powers and Transcendent Physiology Variations (as those were the ones that kicked this up) for overlaps/duplicates, pages that are pretty much (power)+ without anything more, and in general cleaning up. See if the page can be updated to something usable, similar pages merged and if nothing else works deletion, which I think should be agreed by mods/admins to keep possibly usable pages. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:03, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Mind helping with a power? I got no clue how exactly to format Fusion ^^; Omuni (talk) 16:25, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Could work, but I'm not completely sure about it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:06, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

What exactly does that do? Never bothered with it, so no idea what it is. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:21, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

Well, might as well give a try. If it doesn't work, we just don't use it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:38, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

Kuo, Imouto, Gabriel, and Teien have all agreed Bypassing Immunity is completely immune to Immunity Bypassing to the fullest extent. It is also a variation and not a sub-power of Power Anchoring as stated by Kuo and Gabriel. You can ask them if you wish ^^; Omuni (talk) 00:56, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

Alrighty! I spoke to Death, Imouto and I'm still waiting on Teien as I suggested a complete rework on the immunity and resistance system based off of what Kuo, Gabriel, Imouto and Teien said. They all agreed that immunities are just that; complete immunities. And any case of the user being overpowered with it is either a case of Immunity Bypassing at work or proof that what the users had was not immunities but rather resistances! In other words, from what me and Imouto talked about; A Resistance Revamp! Editing a massive amount of users to resistances and adding a bunch of resistances! Also, do you mind editing raw power into Ultipotences sub-power ;o? It's a new power Holo and I made today and we thought fit perfectly into Ultipotence! (On a side note, I never got your opinion on what I said before, I thought perhaps for Ultipotence the limitation rather then being impossible to get Omniscience, should in theory be achievable by the end of the 'heroes journey' per say. There will/should be an end point where they do learn and master everything! So perhaps instead.. May not be able to achieve true omniscience?) Omuni (talk) 01:10, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

Hmm I guess you could ask Imouto, Teiso and the bunch on the issue? There's quite a crazy sensation going on everywhere! But if all else fails the ressistance revolution will go! Also, you didn't respond to what i asked for Ultipotence? Omuni (talk) 01:27, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron1 (talk) 15:12, May 11, 2018 (UTC)Actually you seem to underestimate the power.Reader embodiment is basically a real life reader granting their immunity to a fictional character.Stan lee can control marvel comics but cannot control us the readers.In time of a controversy Stan lee had to retcon his comics due to whom?The readers.They aren't a part of the story so they can't be affected by any author let alone nonexistence.Please understand the concept before making edits.

You're talking about Bypassing Immunity? --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:18, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron1 (talk) 15:30, May 11, 2018 (UTC)That is the point everything happening around you is a story,you are not affected by it and neither you can affect it.They are not controlling anything but aren't getting affecting by it either

All I said was that they will themselves be erased as the erasure is also the thing are simply standing and watching as it were a story on a piece of paper.That is what the power is everything is a story on a piece of paper that is where their immunity comes from.

Nekron1 (talk) 15:38, May 11, 2018 (UTC)The power was never meant to affect anything but as in your own words be the witness of that what is happening in front of him and just like the witness not being affected by anything that is happening in front of them.Just like they have no control over the story,similarly,the story has no control over them.

Nekron1 (talk) 15:41, May 11, 2018 (UTC)You can also imagine it like this-you are reading a book.Just like yo cannot change the content of the book ,the content of the book cannot have any effect over you neither the writer of the book can have any effect over you.Same is the case with reader embodiment.That is where their immunity come from.

(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ Good night
Sleep tight Imouto 07:02, May 16, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Nekron
Nekron1 (talk) 11:31, May 16, 2018 (UTC)Well if a story book can kill a reader then that is nonsense.

Firstly everything is a story means everything happening around is a comic book to you.Ok!

Can a comic book kill you?No

Can the characters of a comic book kill you?No

Can the characters of a comic book erase you?No

Now if you don't understand then ask Koupfi about it.He/She has understood it and on the comments section of the page clearly written that it can grant you immunity to everything.

Hi hi hey :D
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ Imouto 00:13, May 17, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Link to the Discord
https://discordapp.com/channels/361313833932816384/361313833932816386

That is the link to general channel

Imouto 04:56, May 17, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

So Nonexistence is "Specialized variation of Omnipotence" and Ultimate Erasure is "Ultimate Erasure", which is higher one the power ladder?

UR can be reversed by Absolute Recreation and resisted by Meta Power Immunity how about Ne?

There's some confusion between how those two relate/mix, so some clearing up would be appreciated. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:46, May 18, 2018 (UTC)