Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-3075077-20161019120540/@comment-30137764-20161021033512

MJM1035 wrote: I can understand why you would say all this but I feel I must point a few things out. Firstly I would just like to point out that omnipotence merely means one is all powerful. But that does not mean that one can influence everything. Now if the omnipotent being was also omnipresent as well than that would not be the case. Secondly I would like to point out that omnipotence does not necessarily extend beyond a single universe. If it did then the being would have no need to recreate a destroyed universe they could merely alter an existing one to mirror the destroyed one. Thirdly I have read all those articles at various points and while they were all fascinating I would just like to point out that they only describe abilities the either culminate in, are part of, or lead to omnipotence. Those abilities impart something akin to omnipotence but none would result in true omnipotence let alone one that would facilitate universal recreation.

1. Yes Omnipotence means one influences everything if the omnipotent so wished, it's called grand design an actual power.

2. Correct and incorrect. Omnipotence is realative typically to a single Alpha Reality such as Presence of DC and TOAA of Marvel.

Also I'm going to go onba limb and assume you have never actually read what the "Alpha reality" is. It is not a "universe" at all.

Also again you're applying logic to a logicless being. If the omnipotent decided to recreate there is nothing stopping that being. Simply because as I've said multiple times, Almighty Law and author authority (these are actual powers by the way).

3. Actually that's the point. It is a culmination of those abilities that makes an omnipotent. It's like saying if you have flour you don't nake bread from it. Of course you need more ingrediebts to make the bread or cake or what have you and that final product is omnipotence. It's essentially a puzzle piece.

Also: Most of those powers DO facilitate universal recreation. That's how I know you skimmed over them completely or didn't bother to look in depth at their applicationss. Heck even absolute change xan do this. It is time consuming I'll give it that.

Finally: You basocally ignored everything that people before have said about Omnipotence. There. Are. No. Limits. This is the equivalence to the one person who thought definition manipulation was above Omnipotence... The thing that mindboggling is why people even still question Onnipotence at all. Applying human logic to Omnipitence is already a losing battle. Because once again. Metapotence.

An Omnipotent, a true Omnipotent from the start not those who "acquired it", can. do. Anything. This conversation shoukd have ended at metapotence. If you really read metapotence, definition manipulation, etc. Then I have to question if you actually read and studied their applicationss in detail or if you read the description and ended it there. Because it really feels like you did the latter snd not the former. Placing logic to the illogical is like trying to fit the milky way galaxy into a traveling bag.

Also if you read any of those powers at all you woukd have noticed that some if them are "forms/expressions" of omnipotence or "variations" if you can acknowkedge this how are you unable to acknowledge that with the combination of Omnicompetence, Omniscience, and Metapotence are among the reality breaking. You are applying your own reality perspectives to a being that can bend and break reality laws and perspectives themselves? It's fruitless. Now of you want to say that other powers associated with omnipitence has their faukta I'd LOVE to engage in that! In fact its fun to. But the dried spell of having people question Omnipotence and what it stands for causes many people headaches because an Omnipitent can forgo anything. How can you apply logic to someone who controls meta conceots and pataphysics that you can't possibly comprehend. This is what I dub the Logical fallacy on parts of people of undrstanding Omnipotence.

But nobody wants the answer "because they can" simply because THEY CAN. That is literally the answer. If you want to go in detail onnipitent has a vast assortment of almighty powers you can reqd up about. I recommend absolute existence first though. I know you said you read them but if you did you shoukd not ecen still be questioning tuis meanibg you read descriptions and not applications. Plus you're looking at the powers indeoendently instead of together. According to your logic the number two cannot exist because 1+1 cannot add to 2.

Honestly I don't know what else to tell you, Metapotence, omnicompetence, self-transcendence, self-origin manipukation, alpha reality, omnilock, absolute change, change embodinebt, illogical world, almighty law, cmgrabd design, 10th dimensional physiology, POTENTIALITY LORDSHIP, Interaction manipulation, meta conceot manipulation, omniscience, TRUTH MANIPULATION, COMPLETE ARSENAL, IMMUNITY BYPASSING, PERSPECTIVE MANIPULATION, Metapoeer Manipulation. I mean the list goes on and is exhaustive.

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