User talk:SageM

Welcome
You say the this Wu character exist but where can I find the history of Wu in the anime series.Marcus9249 (talk)

Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the Reversed Vocifery page!

How can I edit my profile Marcus9250 while on block.

Is there at least a place on here where I write my favorite powers other than my profile. Until the block is removed

Dear SageM,

I need you to listen very closely because this is my last message to you. Gabriel456 told me that I can use this account to put my powers on temporarily until the block is removed. I come to apologize for my behavior and annoy messages. The reason not only I wanted my profile but I love this wiki because it is the only wiki I know that records superpowers. I needed to put them on my profile cause I really like them bad. Sorry my obsession got out of hand. And tell Gabriel456 thank you for the rules of this wiki. I promise to read every last one of them.

"GOODBYE AND FAREWELL" --Marcus9260 (talk)

Please leave a message on my talk page if you need help with anything! Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

Dear SageM, I sorry for what happen. The reason why I keep doing it was because it was there but it wasn't anymore before I edit. It keep changing to that page i didn't see the reasons until you block me that made me go to my page. Please unblock me. I sorry I cause so much trouble for you. Next time something like this happens I look at my profile. Also tell Gabriel456 I am sorry. I would but I can't contact him because of the block. Sincerely, Marcus9250 P.s sorry for this because I tried to send a message but it was dead down the bottom goo

Here are my reasons
Dear SageM, I would be more open to listening if you if you would do the same thing.

As whenever I add anything onto the pages on this wiki you immediately remove without any form of explanation as to why it is being removed even though it is correct, to begin with.

Then I get look again and see that someone else has added the same thing that I added and it is accepted.

Let me repeat myself, it is also something that you remove and not an admin. So, it sounds that it is more like personal reasoning and not something that the abilities are in the actual source like what this site is supposed to be based on.

Aside from the statement actually made in the Light Novel about Half Dimension: "The space distorts while having the Fenrir in the centre of it. Fenrir also has his movement sealed by the space distortion." From Volume 7 during the fight against Loki.

Wouldn't this be proof that Half Dimension can cause spacial distortion and thus it is related to controlling space?

But, then you say that it doesn't and that it is impossible. Then if you think about it against Highschool DxD is about a protagonist doing the literal impossible with breasts.

I kinda realized that Spatial Turning would be wrong and Half Dimension would sound more like Spacial Distortion since again it says in the light novel that space distorts as Vali used it.

I had just wanted you to know what it feels to have someone making a lot of incomprehensible changes without reason. Or at least in my case, I gave a plausible reason that it could be right.

DevilSlayer123 (talk) 22:57, November 16, 2018 (UTC)

New Users
When you're only adding more users, use the Edit right next to Known Users tag, that way others know you've only changed them and not the whole page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:53, March 22, 2014 (UTC)

I read the wiki page beforehand, and her power is to "give 100% accurate suggestion". Doesn't sound like upgrading or commanding, just momentarily optimizing the success rate of a specific task via accurate information. I'll dig a little more in her wiki page though, maybe her abilities' description aren't "100% accurate".

And friendly advice, never say to someone "you're wrong". The more you say this kind of stuff, the more fiercly the other side will resist (basic psychology, just honestly think about what you'd do). DYBAD (talk) 21:50, March 24, 2014 (UTC)

And where exactly does it say he's embodiment of Heaven? --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:16, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Point. Got a good picture to add? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:55, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Why is every Real World User removed from every power? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:54, March 30, 2014 (UTC)

Add powers in alphabetical order, please. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:42, March 31, 2014 (UTC)

I'd say Absorbing Replication is both my favorite offensive and defensive power, as well as my favorite physiology and adaptive power. There's just so much to like about it, and it's one of the powers most in synch with real life's darwinian rules (consume, adapt, survive, become) and the famous law of conservation (nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed). DYBAD (talk) 00:01, April 6, 2014 (UTC)

Too many powers are likely to backfire, it doesn't seem specific enough to be a category of its own. DYBAD (talk) 22:04, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah I'm new to this. you have erased some characters because I do not have confirmation I have confirmation but don't know where to do with it so help? also don't know where to write this so sorry Clockwork Cthulhu (talk) 13:58, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

Plane
Returned and Needs Work.

Page Creation and Details shows what pages should look like, Structure Physiology and Urban Physiology are closest to this power. Add explanation/source to what "plane" is. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:28, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

PP
Are you talking about me removing PP from Associations of other pages, because I Edited PP after you posted this?

If you are, then you might want to notice that when others make a page, they don't go around adding it to every power that is in their powers Applications. I left it on Personal Domain, because that's the top power over universal, planet or other Lordships and thus the most relevant. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:57, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Pics in to Gallery
On the right is Add Features and Media, Gallery allows you to choose the size of the pics shown.

On the front page is link to Page Creation and Details, it has this to say about Gallery: "include Name (series), Remember to check that given user is on Known Users." --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, May 10, 2014 (UTC)

Categories
You're leaving Galleries unclosed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:26, June 23, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, an editing mistake. Just uploaded it again. DYBAD (talk) 02:09, July 26, 2014 (UTC)

Clothing Combat
As far as I know, there's no power that does this, so go for it.

As for the users, are they using/manipulating their clothes, or are those clothes alive/symbiots, as with Spawns? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:41, August 1, 2014 (UTC)

Then they aren't using clothes to fight but have symbiots fighting for them. In other words, you didn't make clothing combat page but symbiot combat. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:41, August 1, 2014 (UTC)

Spawns "clothes" are something alive, demonic parasite or something like that, that much I remember, in other words it's a living being. Battle Dougi is able to move on it's own, make decisions and apparently has enough emotions to loath males, sounds pretty much alive to me.

Anyway, when you talk about Combat powers on this site, it's about combining certain powers with physical combat. You might want to take a look at Combat Merging and it's variations for examples. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:10, August 1, 2014 (UTC)

Ado Edem
You might want to ask that from Yatanogarasu since he's the one who removed it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:09, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

re:Ado Edem from Giant Weapon Proficiency
I only see the weapon in what appears to be a concept art/databook page. I don't see anyone wielding the weapon. Yatanogarasu (talk) 05:28, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

re: Dust of Osiris
hai hai, you're certainly right, but a Tatari is only immortal while humans exist, because it takes shape by the fears of humans. And Dust of Osiris is not "a" Tatari, she has the Reality Marble Tatari. The original Tatari is Zepia, he was the embodied phenomenon who would continue forever, but then Arc, Sion and Shiki manage to remove his phenomenon power and kill him. Osiris is still a individual, and if she is killed then Tatari would be over. And yes she is a vampire, but she manages to cure herself from the need of taking blood.

Edit: Looking at the page again, Absolute Immortality is "The power to be eternal and indestructible.". She will not be eternal (as I explained above) and nobody is indestructible in the Nasuverse, even the all-powerful Ultimate Ones can be defeated. 02:13, August 17, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Multi Strike
I know who's Assassin, but he doesn't fit because Multi Strike is "The power to enhance physical attacks by repeating the same attack." His power fits in Time-Window Alteration. First of all it isn't even a physical attack, it's sword attack. Second, he doesn't "repeat the attack", they are three simultaneous attacks from three different sides, by using a limited application of the Second Magic. 21:16, August 17, 2014 (UTC)

re: known users go alphabetical order or something like that
Then please rearrange all the users lol, most pages are all scrambled 01:21, August 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Absolute existence-Ophis
If that is what it says regarding her character, then I will not argue with it. Although, personally, I could easily name several characters in fiction who would prove to all be more than a match for most of not all of the characters in this ridiculous excuse for an anime. You must understand that that anime is literally my least favorite out of all of the various animes and mangas I have come across in my time. None of the characters in that anime are appealing at all and do not seem opposing in the slightest. In fact, it's probable that if it was not for fan-service, then that anime would have faded from the eyes of the people save perhaps for only a few curious souls who may come across it unintentionally.

It is only another generic anime that supports the idea that being evil is, "cool," (since the main characters are all...ugh...demons), with literal stock characters of your typical characters in japanese fiction; Useful only for the sake of, "entertainment," and I would not wish that anime on my worst enemy....or maybe I would.

To add insult to injury even further, I also lost even more interest in the anime ever since Raynare was killed in the first season. She honestly had more potential character in her and, along with her associates, was more colorful than any of the others. She would have made a much better character than say Issei, but of course, our, "brilliant," writers decided to kill her off because she tried to kill issei on their first date. In the holy name of God Almighty, who would have cared if the boy had died? Not me, that's for sure! All I can say is that I hope they are brought back somehow, because Raynare and her associates were the only reason why I was interested in that anime. That is no lie, I assure you my friend.

But, nontheless, thank you for writing back to me and I hope to hear from you again soon. Have a good evening.

Sincerely,

Prophet of the Lord (talk) 06:06, August 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Absolute existence-Ophis 2
Hello once again SageM. While I had a moment to myself, I wanted to talk with you a bit more on the subject of Ophis being a canidate for the power of Absolute Existence. Now, first and foremost, Ophis was the second most powerful of the Dragons original alongside Great Red (ugh...I despise dragons, so this isn't going to be easy for me), until she lost a great deal of her power in Volume 11 as a result of the curse from Samael's blood (Finally, someone actually proved the dragons to not be as overpowered as others were led to belive!)

An also, according to the official wiki, these are the following abilities that Ophis is listed to possess: While it's accepted that he/she (she is genderless) was one of the more stronger dragons, as a result of Samael, he/she now much weaker than he/she was before. Now, if he/she was a canidate for Absolute Existence, he/she could have simply undid this malady by just willing it, however, as I had hoped for, none of the characters in the anime have shown a capacity for utilizing such a power. In addition to this, if he/she is as powerful as you claim her to be, then:
 * Power Manifestation Through Snakes
 * Shapeshifting
 * Immense Power
 * Blessing

- Is he/she either partially or completely responsible for the creation of the anime's universe or potentially other ones?

-Can he/she be present all throughout the universe and nowhere all at once?

-Does he/she have knowledge of past present and future event?

-Can he/she simply rewrite him/herself on a multiscale level and instantly have access to any power imaginable?

If he/she was a powerful as you claim him/her to be, then he/she would have to manifest into a form that beings with limited intelligence could comprehend, otherwise, they would be overwhelmed by the sheer force of his/her aura.

Not to mention, if the True Longinus (the original spear that pierced Christ's side, yes, I am aware if it's history) is capable of killing, "anything," then would it make sense that it would be able to kill him/her as well?

So, no, I most sincerely do not feel that Ophis is a canidate for Absolute Existence. More or less, she would fit the power of Dragon God Physiology more than anything else. Besides, it was already accepted that Great Red was stronger than her anyway, so, there really isn't any contest here.

Please write to me whenever you find the oppertunity and please let me know what you think of my observations. Thank you and have wonderful day!

Sincerely,

Prophet of the Lord (talk) 06:06, August 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Absolute Existence-Ophis 3
Are you joking? Really? Please tell me that you are simply trying to toy with me and are not being meaningful! Read the novels!? In Christ's holy name, you would never catch me even dead reading those unholy abominations that other simple minded individuals would call a, "novel!" What exactly is the point anyway? I already possess knowledge regarding the anime (though I sincerely wish that I didn't), and besides, as I have said before in my previous post, none of the characters are appealing in any sort. They are all your typical stock characters that you would find in any other stock anime. Raynare and the other fallen angels actually had character to them and so much more could have been done with them! There is no reason to read those books. In fact, I even went out of my way just to hide a copy of a novel behind several other books during a trip to the library just so people wouldn't have to look at that horrid and terrible excuse for a book!

.........Alright.........I'm done..........now......let me see if I understand this correctly from what you've told me so far:

-Ophis predates the existence of all other beings in the anime

-She can shapeshift into any form, which would techincally make her Omnifarious

-Her power is manifested through serpents

-Incredibly powerful weapons, while they can harm and kill beings like Great Red, cannot do permanent harm to Ophis

-She does not utilize her full power

-She has no definite gender

................My friend, what you've just described to me sounds more along the lines of an Great Old One or an Outer God from the Cthulhu Mythos by H.P. Lovecraft.

Okay...........Let me make myself....perfectly clear:

-Just because she is known as the, "infinite dragon god," that doesnt mean he/she has infinite power. It simply means that because she is an incredibly powerful being, those who know of her may have assumed that her power was infinite as well as her existing for such a long period of time.

-The idea of predating all other beings also does not make him/her the most powerful. That simply means that she is the oldest being in existence.

-I can honestly understand why incredibly powerful weapons cannot inflict any real damage on her, due to her predating all of those aspects of the anime (not to mention by shapeshifting into a different form, she can technically heal herself as well). However, take a moment to imagine a weapon that existed before the events of the anime alongside her. Would that weapon be powerful enough to harm her?

And also, what exactly does the, "heat death of the multiverse," have to do with anything that were talking about? Do you honestly believe that something as ridiculous as that is going to occur? You do realise that things like that are all mere guesses? No one really know for sure, we can only infer through observations! Besides, how many scientists alive today will be alive when something like as insane as that were to happen? As far as we know, we barely have traveled outside of our own galaxy, so what's the point of worrying about that?

You, truthfully, from my point of view, seem to be idealizing Ophis to be something of a Mary Sue (if you understand what that term means). You need to think about it from a more observant point of view. If there is a character in a manga or anime that has existed longer for and is stronger than other characters in the manga or anime as well, that does not always mean that the character is all powerful. The character themselves might just simply be very powerful beings who have just existed for many years. I mean, think of users with Alien Physiology or beings who have the power to alter and create various multi-dimensional realms in the universe; Beings like that could have existed for God knows how long and would have been using their powers for the full length of their existence; one would only assume during that time period they would have, through experience, learned a few interesting tricks that would cause people to see them and revel them as gods.

......Okay.....now that I've gotten all of that off of my chest......please write back to me when you can. Have a good day SageM.

SIncerely,

Prophet of the Lord (talk) 22:10, August 18, 2014 (UTC)

Danger Empowerment
Any relations to Adrenal Activation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:40, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Works for me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:49, September 4, 2014 (UTC)

Reset Kinetic
Energy Negation I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Asmodeus
You'd think that something of that level would be mentioned in other sourcebooks as well... --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:46, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Really? Sounds legit enough, so go on and add it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:00, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Omni Magic/Transcendent Mage gallery
In that case, could you make the users name/series more obvious? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:01, September 18, 2014 (UTC)

chi invisibility users
i ran a quick google search on those guys u added and it says nothing about them having any sort of invisibility. are you sure they have chi invisibility? can you find a source? 22:06, September 21, 2014 (UTC)

ok then. it's because this is supposed to be different from invisibility through magic. 22:14, September 21, 2014 (UTC)

well, yeah, but I think it's better to have unity. like there are over fifteen movies on Dragon Ball but listing them all is shitty and it's better to simply say "Dragon Ball" 00:03, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

oops, my bad then. just add him again 18:29, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

Omnikinetic Force Manipulation
if thats your reasoning then telekinetic force manipulation also needs to go because omnikinetic force manipulation was based off of the idea of the skill from omnikinesis applied to telekinetic force manipulation PLUS i tried to acheive a balance between the two, i prefer you people talk to me about flaws or alterations required rather than going streiught to "kill it with fire!" just ebcauise its simmilar to something, otherwise majority of the pages on this site needs to go too Azuchi67 (talk) 21:05, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

no the FORCE part of telekinetic force manipulation means its pure psychic energy, which was also included in omnikinetic force manipulation its a simply application of the flexable "all encompassing" trait of omnikinesis to telekinetic forces raw power converting that sheer psychic force to other forms of energy or force like how force users can do force lightning, you would have nown that had you actually read my page rather than just seeing the title and hitting delete. p.s. thanks if its ever restored i have a simpler angle to explain the power. Azuchi67 (talk) 21:26, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

re:if you don't like him, Ban him.
I'm not an admin here, and I don't think the admins here would ban someone for just mis-organizing the list. Yatanogarasu (talk) 23:35, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * haha, then just start undoing all his edits. now what about our earlier discussion on avalon? did we get an agreement? 23:54, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * eh, ok then, but it's not 100% correct. 23:59, September 28, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry I Wasn't Ignoring Your Mensages,I Only Has See It Now,Very Sorry.

Gabriel already left him a message. You don't really need to undo all of his edits since it'd be quite troublesome. If he starts again, you can undo, but let the ones he already made. 00:13, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

sorry but thats complete BS for 3 points.

a: the vast majority of pages on this site are either derivatives that are already covered or variants which match nearly identically to the ones they originate from

b: only a few of the pages i create have simmilarities to count to date 4, 3 of which are still up because im actually a very good writer WHEN ALLOWED TIME TO WRITE AND IMPROVE my work

c: the page i created at most only had 50% of each power (omnikinesis and telekinetic force manipulation) in it ammended with some creative writing, its a COMBINATION PAGE its GOING to be simmilar, so using simmilarity to delete it brings every other variant and combination page into the "most likely need for deletion" as it weas a very classic and typical example of a variant AND combinaiton for this sit.

i do my research AND im a very good debater dont think you can win me over with script and practiced words with me either get a proper explination of what happened or give up because improvised hollow words wont win with me and sticking to the act only insults me which is WHY i stopped responding because you fell back to the "Bail Out Clause" in debates.

Azuchi67 (talk) 00:23, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

You forgive me for the mistake I made? I'm really sorry (Don't Need Answer,Only Undo If You Forgive Me)

SCP
Those SCP things you add, aren't they fanon? I googled it and couldn't find any official thing. 02:06, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I see. It's an indie game. It's still about 50% fanon, but ok, I also added an indie game character here once. 02:13, October 1, 2014 (UTC)

Omni-Travel
you do realise that Omni-Travel was deleted right? it was already covered by Planeswalking

Deathwish Invictus (talk) 00:21, October 2, 2014 (UTC) Deathwish Invictus

watatsuki no toyohime
I looked her on google and couldn't find any info of her having Deity Binding 01:42, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

apart from this TvTropes page and a slight mention on the touhou wiki, I couldn't find any other mention of this. if you find the mango (it's a mango, isn't it?), we can add it to the gallery 02:04, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Yea I had already found all that, thanks anyway 02:41, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

where do you find all those characters you add? it seems you don't actually know all of them 18:37, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

sorry I didn't want to be rude to you, if it looked that way to you 18:51, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

hm I think the only one was when we discussed about Dust of Osiris. But actually I just sent you this message because you add a shitload of people every day. I wonder how can you both play games and watch animus while still on the internet the whole day, haha 19:01, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

roa and nero
they still can magic. Nero's actual body condition is a result of his magic (his Reality Marble Lair of the Beast King), and he uses the spell Soil of Genesis to trap Arcueid.

In Roa's page, it says "None of his incarnations have reached his full power because they lack the Circuits of the original, and even though he technically possesses every memory his past incarnations had, he draws these memories only gradually from the Akashic record. He is forced into waiting for the specifics of his former lives to reappear to him. This is the reason why he is unable to use Magecraft during the events of Tsukihime; he simply no longer recalls exactly how to do so and must bide his time till he is able."

He still can, but it's not as powerful as before. He never uses in Tsukihime because he doesn't remember how. But he does use in Melty Blood, and he even uses his Reality Marble Overload which applies the effect of the Square spell to all of his spells while it is activated. 02:46, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

He does not identifies himself as a vampire because he screwed up his body by adding 666 beasts to his Reality Marble. All Reality Marbles are magecraft, so that sort of already gives me one point. If he were to deactivate his Reality Marble, he would turn back to a normal Dead Apostle, but he doesn't because he wishes to complete his magical research.

And Soil of Genesis is a spell. Here's something from Roa's page: "He has vast knowledge in other areas as well, such as spells forgotten from the Age of Gods, one of which, Soil of Genesis, he teaches to Nrvnqsr Chaos in the interest of helping him shape the chaos that makes up his existence.". Oops, another point for me, haha. 03:09, October 11, 2014 (UTC)

resurrection x reincarnation
resurrection is dying then reviving in the same place, like Berserker. reincarnation takes quite some time since you have to be birth all again. and that's exactly what Roa does. reincarnation is not a sub power of resurrection, it's associated. they're fundamentally different. 22:13, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * On a related note, if you have a good pic of the guy you added in Infinite Reincarnation, plz upload it. It has to show him dying and reviving, if possible. 22:21, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

multiple souls
Plz try not to mistake. the power is not to have souls stored inside, it's to have souls sharing a body. Like Cartman and Kenny in south park or SHIKI and Roa in Tsukihime. For example, Illya stores the servants' souls in her body after they die, but it's only to use them as energy to power up the Holy Grail, so she wouldn't fit the power. Each of the souls must be sentient and able to control the body 02:24, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * See if those guys you added aren't instead in Soul Retention. 23:25, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Kinetic Conversion
[http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Thekingsman/Rules_for_this_wiki. Rules for this wiki.] #12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:27, October 22, 2014 (UTC)

can you explain me how this DIana Bishop have something to do with my original race Dualis? Emelas (talk) 06:45, October 23, 2014 (UTC)

re:Bolt Crank: Absolute Immortal
Actually, here says "Bolt never ages, but the end of the manga series revealed that he is biological immortal (he doesn't age but may be hurt and killed)" and "he consumes death to complete the necessary ingredients", meaning he defeated death to prevent it from killing him, not making killing him impossible. Yatanogarasu (talk) 01:57, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

And you undo the entire heavy edit simply because of "Bolt Crank"? Yatanogarasu (talk) 02:01, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

From official works ONLY
Lionel Sugg's verse is not an official work to be listed on this wiki. CoolCat123450 (talk) 08:46, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

There are millions works out there that count as an 'official' and 'published' work. If we included EVERY character especially from works that are relatively obscure, then everybody can just add any character they choose to without regarding if it actually serves to exemplify the power. You noticed we attempt to stray from desultory character listing just because it's mentioned in a book and I have friends who published graphic novels and comic books, but that doesn't mean their characters should be listed on this wiki... Just thinking about it, Lionel Sugg's has reached a relatively popular mark of infamy, so I don't really care if his characters are listed. CoolCat123450 (talk) 22:37, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Fundamental Forces
Apparently, it's not the fundamental forces of nature according to physics that the respective characters represent, they are just an arbitrary set of fundamental forces. From what I searched, it's just a theory that they actually represent the actual nuclear forces. CoolCat123450 (talk) 04:00, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Good enough for me. CoolCat123450 (talk) 04:12, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

Splendid Idea
But how will that be different from Omnipotence Embodiment. CoolCat123450 (talk) 06:09, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

I am all for it, but prepare for the ensuing fight afterward and good luck. I'll defend in the best way I can. CoolCat123450 (talk) 07:07, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

I'll help by any means necessary. This is going to turn the whole wiki upside down and allow for the exploration of even greater possibilities. CoolCat123450 (talk) 19:42, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Your page

 * 1) there is only one omnipotent being, and he/she is above all, without exception. I don't understand where people fail to understand that. If they have someone rivaling/equaling their power, than that's a limit and thus neither are omnipotent. so that completely nullifies that "omnipotent beings" part.


 * 1) Omnipotent beings are, by their very nature, supreme. Not so supreme if there is someone above them, telling them what to do. these so-called "omnipotent/supreme beings" would be nothing but high-tier Nigh Omnipotents. So that complete nullifies controlling the so-called omnipotent beings. Obviously, the user is omnipotent and the things they're controlling aren't omnipotent at all.

In my opinion, this seems nothing but yet another attempt to limit Omnipotence. And it's getting very,very,very,very,very, VERY tiresome. (we had god knows amount of attempts).
 * 1) Omnipotents are immune to everyone else. Your page would negate the very basis of Omnipotence which is absolute Freedom. Not so much, if there is someone bossing them around. This nullifies the whole damn point to the power.

This is just my opinion on this matter. I mean, unless I'm misunderstanding this..

Gabriel456 (talk) 19:53, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

No, not really. It just sounds like the omnipotent isn't really omnipotent if they don't have the freedom to do as they choose and are forced to obey someone lower than them. Again, that makes it sound like they're just high-end Nigh Omnipotents who just border omnipotence. Gabriel456 (talk) 20:16, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I guess.. Gabriel456 (talk) 20:44, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Healing Stance
That's basically Regeneration with Limitation of having to take and stay in certain position. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:22, October 31, 2014 (UTC)

Ajimu and Kogarashi
Iihiko's ability was also said to cause irreversible damage. Ajimu's final message at the end of the manga proves that she's alive and her healthy appearance pre-death should be a sign that she can heal from that irreversible damage just fine despite losing to him multiple times. It should be fairly obvious at this point that having an OP character like Ajimu running around would make the plot way too easy (which is why the six suitors she defeated with barely any effort just so happened to be doubles) which is why she was "killed."

I'm not completely familiar with Kamen no Maid guy. I do recall, however, that he has a weakness to a whistle and it's been used on him before so his lack of defeats there is false. Even then, Kamen no Maid Guy's a comedy set in the real world. Unless there are people on par with Abnormals, Minuses, and Not Equals, I don't think it'd be fair to compare them based on how much they win battles. Do you have the pages or moments where his lack of limitations is confirmed? Keep in mind that a lack of limitations does not necessarily mean he has every ability. Just that he COULD get them all.

Totality Manipulation
Then remove the Users and do take a note that we have Categories like No Known User and Fanon Power. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:46, November 2, 2014 (UTC)

Weapon Constructs
That idea actually occurred to me when I was editing the weapon manipulations, but it never got farther than that. Go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:13, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Made this page so plz halp
I created this page on a whim so I could only remember one instance of users, but you and your super memory can probably remember a lot, so please add them. 21:43, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

If its already approved fair enough.

Death horseman94 (talk) 22:42, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Pic Names
Wen you load pics, please use some sort of descriptive name instead of string of numbers/letters. That got added to Rules for a reason after all. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:26, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

Name Severing
What does it actually do? Because I remember that nezumi shamans can do something similar in Legend of Five Rings, and that removes the memory/evidence of the one whose name was "eaten" from existence. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:31, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

Particle Physiology
Might want to check if one of the Energy Physiology variations covers that, if for no other reason than giving you idea how to make the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:27, November 21, 2014 (UTC)

Law/Order
We do have Order Embodiment tho', that similar to what you were thinking? --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:05, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Reflective Immutability
why Cain? 22:45, November 23, 2014 (UTC)

Control Negation
Variation of Power Negation with some relations to Telepathic Negation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:20, November 26, 2014 (UTC)

new power ideas
1. Calendar Empowerment/Augmentation - Might be expanded to include all possible time related Affinities/empowerments, either so that the user is empowered only during certain time (noon, certain weekday, month, etc.) or that each time (time of day, might be related to darkness/light affinity, weekday, month or season) empowers them different way.

2. Emotion Separation - We have something similar (can't remember the name) that allows user to manifest their emotions, this sounds like it... maybe related, maybe just bit of reworking the old power. Might want to check Emotion Manipulation if it has the link for that power. If it is too similar, just Edit the old power a bit, if it isn't make a new one, but at least you have something to compare it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:46, November 29, 2014 (UTC)

Effect Stacking
Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:34, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Memory Destruction
Define it as "User can destroy any/all memories target has" to allow more precise control, with potential to affect "up to/including muscle memory" and you got something really nasty... --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:27, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Energy Transformation
You might want to expand that power (name suggestion above) to allow transformation of all matter into energy, with planets being on the upper edge. Energy Transmogrification allows this to living beings and would be sub-power or Variation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:53, November 30, 2014 (UTC)

Book Physiology
Might want to check Paper Mimicry for purely physical side and Literary Manipulation for those powers that don't come from the materials they're made of (animating/manifesting their illustrations/characters, etc.), these might belong more to Techniques or Variations. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:16, December 1, 2014 (UTC)

Life and Death Manipulation
(Undo revision 539143 by Silent Psycho Gamer; Yhwach cannot give life, only take it.)

But he took life away in order to resurrect his elites, dose that not qualify for this category? Silent Psycho Gamer (talk) 05:30, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

Explanation from the Bleach Wiki:

Auswählen (聖別 (アウスヴェーレン), Ausuvēren; German for "Select", Japanese for "Holy Selection"; "Consecration" in the Viz release): After 990 years of being sealed away, Yhwach used this ability to restore his lost powers. After selecting Quincy whom he deems impure, including those with mixed blood, Yhwach can steal their powers and make them his own. This process is fatal to its victims, particularly those who are already weak. Yhwach can also use this to revive fallen Quincy by stealing the powers and life of other Quincy, which he does by engulfing his targets in massive columns of light. Auswählen is an ability that allows power redistribution. The power of Quincy deemed to be useless is collected and redistributed to the ones who need it, and those that it is given to are reborn stronger.

They were dead even by Bleach standards not mostly dead or half-dead, but fully dead.Silent Psycho Gamer (talk) 05:50, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

Archetype
Sounds like Concept Manipulation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:26, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

Im not deleting users im deleting Bots. KaidbTalkBlog 20:44, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Deletings
Just deleting Robot posts, they are not real people, only made 1-4 edits and are all Blog posts. I'm deleting them because they have: broken links, superfluous categories, and drivel for content. They are not real people they are crap that does not belong on this wiki. I'm surprised no one else has bothered to go in and clean them up. KaidbTalkBlog 20:50, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Lucario uses its aura to manifest a bone to use Bone Rush, it may be minor but it is using an aura construct, I have a picture for it tooChaosfreeze990 (talk) 01:43, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Hey There.
Hey I'm trying to clean up categories. If you could do me a favor and not undo what I'm doing. That would be awesome, here if you could read This guide to categories which explains what I'm trying to get accomplished. If i have to do it three times for all 5000 pages it will never end. And Galleries are not powers, they are pictures. Thanks for all your help, if you wanna talk further, or you want me to put something back leave a message on my talk.KaidbTalkBlog 21:39, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Sage
Is there a reason you want the page Fifth Dimensional Imp Physiology to not be on the delete list, if you do it would be great to hear it. I want to discuss why u think that it is any different from the page Imp Physiology. If it is different why? But please don't just undo what i've done. If you want me to change it back leave a message on my talkKaidbTalkBlog

Imps
Hey could you do me a favor and go look at the date I joined this particular wiki. Not trying to gloat or anything. Just a little miffed at the flack. I'm not sure if you wrote that particular page or what but I didn't delete it, and believe me I thought about it. I'm not trying to destroy anything you guys have created just cleaning stuff up. So if i put a page up for deleting its not because I plan on deleting it, it is because the page needs some work. If it gets worked on and it turns out that they are two different powers then fine I will remove the tag. I am only putting two new tags on pages one is for pages I want to research more, for those i will add the Category:Candidates for deletion. Or pages that Probably need Merged because they are way too specific to a single person, for that I will use Category:Overly-Specific Powers if you have any questions please leave them on my talk, or if you want me to revert an edit, just ask. KaidbTalkBlog 02:55, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

Sage I asked you nicely, then I explained what I was doing, Then I told you to stop. This is Literally the last warning if you Undo one more of my edits I am going to give you a short term block. Not even kidding. KaidbTalkBlog 03:15, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry If I seemed Harsh
There "was" only nine pages in the category Specific Powers. but to say that any power is limited to a single universe seems kind of silly (doesn't it, i hope that it does) just because only one particular manga or comic book or game HAS used it doesn't mean that others cant. Do you understand? Im really not trying to be mean but it is taking far longer than it should to clean some of this stuff up because I am having to do it three or four times. If you tell me what u are thinking I can change it back. Just ask.

I want you to know that we are working together, stop fighting me. KaidbTalkBlog 03:30, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

The Page Omni-Telepathy had three categories that all mean Almighty do you want it to be Omni-Power instead of Almighty Power because those are both the same thing. I will change it if you prefer Omni over Almighty.KaidbTalkBlog 04:10, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

You answered your own query
When you say you can't manipulate Adrenaline you're correct, it wouldn't help to be able to move the chemical around in a person. So it is a given that you are actually manipulating the chemicals impact on the brain. Weather that be adding more of it to someone or taking it away. The title Adrenaline Manipulation fits the wikis layout better and updates it to the category Superpower rather than something that literally every human on earth can do. KaidbTalkBlog 00:20, December 13, 2014 (UTC)

Reality Disguise
Sounds like one of the higher level illusion variations actually... --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:28, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

re:Ultimate Regeneration: Tennyo
I didn't see that, it was an edit conflict. And that aside, is this webcomic actually not just those fanon stuff, like those "Stupid Mario Brothers" we see in the past? Yatanogarasu (talk) 08:05, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

re:Items
Actually, ultimate regeneration allows the user to return to their optimal form, not mutated. The Halo Devices transforms one into a mutant or monster. The mask simply pulls one from dimension, similar to Izanagi in Naruto. Yatanogarasu (talk) 22:38, December 14, 2014 (UTC)

Another Character Sheet
I think I broke myselfA Living Person (talk) 05:01, December 20, 2014 (UTC)A Living Person

Deleted
If you go look at The Deletion Log I give descriptions why every page is deleted. Mostly I am only removing broken redirects, and empty categories. The powers I do delete are duplicates (And only ever duplicates!) I make sure all the info is transferred to the corresponding page and correct any discrepancies. BUT ONLY IF THEY ARE DUPLICATES! I want you to understand that I don't take pages off of here lightly. Just go ahead and Google Transmute and Transmogrify. They are the same word, the same definition and the same power. To transmute an element means to change from one to another to transmogrify means to change from one to another. they are the same power. they were worded the same, they have the same abilities, word for word duplicates. if you have any more questions feel free to hop on the chat. or send me a message. CaydebTalkRants 04:57, December 23, 2014 (UTC)

Vitality Restoration
Sounds like something Life-Force Manipulation would cover, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:36, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Oh sorry
It just went to the vid without showing the title. However on final fantasy legends, its true that the sprite stays and somewhat moves. Do you mind if I can add that? If ur adding that, its fineLboys (talk) 23:27, December 28, 2014 (UTC)

Reading Empowerment
Sounds interesting, go for it.

Is there any correlation between what user reads and what gets empowered? For example does reading superhero comic give them abilities related/similar to the characters? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:51, December 29, 2014 (UTC)

Response
Not leaving them on sage, just checking something. Thanks for all your deep insights they are greatly appreciated. I will be shutting them off shortly, no need to worry. CaydebTalkRants 23:19, December 29, 2014 (UTC)

Warping Presence
Isn't that basically always active Reality Warping? Possibly with limited area. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:58, December 31, 2014 (UTC)

THanks
Thanks for pointing that out, error on my part. The double heading through me off. Corrected now. Thanks again. CaydebTalkRants 19:40, January 1, 2015 (UTC)

Hair cloning
I must admit that I've wondered few times if there was someone able to do just that... go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:10, January 3, 2015 (UTC)

EDEI
Any practical differences to normal energy Infusion? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:50, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

Might want to add explanation to how/why it differs from normal EI, but otherwise go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:25, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

Brass Manipulation
By that logic everyone working on modern construction site can manipulate steel, concrete and glass. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:03, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

wiki counter
Could be removal of redirection page, that's about only thing I can think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:14, January 7, 2015 (UTC)

Antimatter
Might work best as separate power. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:05, January 8, 2015 (UTC)

Gallery/Users
Add to Gallery, add to Users. It really shouldn't be that hard to remember. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:35, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

Category
I don't see anything differing from the usual, so it was likely just one of those glitches that pop up sometimes. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:31, January 11, 2015 (UTC)

Loyalty
Might work. Got Users? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:50, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

Darkness Blast
That rule about repeatedly editing same thing and undoing still applies, so please talk it out before next try. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:45, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

None of ichigos powers are darkness based at ALL. It's only black spirit energy, just because his mugetsu darkened the sky or the fact its black doesn't mean darkness. I follow the series so I would know, in all honesty its only an assumption that you'd think it is darkness rather than an actual statement from the manga or anime. An elemental blast is more of an explosion/raze emitted in a specific area reather than a wall, wave motion blast or even a sword beam.Squidbaby (talk) 12:54, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

Darkness Slash
Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

If you get this message, I'd like to ask: about Probability Manipulation; that power can make a very strong, tough and sturdy building that is very unlikely to fall apart to collapse as if it were a very weak, fragile building that falls by a slight touch by increasing the likelihood of that very strong building collapsing, right? Flamerstreak (talk) 02:15, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Okie Dokie. Thanks! Flamerstreak (talk) 02:45, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

One more thing; Probability Manipulation can also make a person running slip and fall or lose balance, even if there is good friction to keep the person from sleeping and/or if the person has great skill in balance, right? Flamerstreak (talk) 02:49, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Slipping, not sleeping. My bad. Flamerstreak (talk) 03:11, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, one more thing: Probability Manipullation can mae it so a light bottle in an area of very strong winds will not move at all one bit, even when the strong winds should blow it away so easily, right? Flamerstreak (talk) 05:44, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:37, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Phenomenon Elimination
Wouldn't that be Variation of Power Negation and sub-power of Phenomenon Manipulation more than anything to do with Nonexistence?

Sounds good, go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:32, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Dark Acid Breath
I think it's way too specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:47, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Wouldn't your power be closer to Power Erasure? If PE is to remove phenomenon, why would it not be closer to PE? Power Negation simply negates, but it doesn't remove anything Gabriel456 (talk) 21:18, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Demonic Acid Manipulation
Make that Dark Acid Manipulation on line with other Dark Element Manipulations and you got it covered. DEM are essentially the dark/destructive aspect of their elements, so that'd go with your idea. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:39, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry it took so long to respond, I found interesting story to read and it was well past midnight when I finally noted time again... --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:03, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

the Alphabetic order is of the name of the usersd are?i ever thinked that has of the users name kkk L12345 (talk) 00:59, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Oh,I see,i only thinked that ajimu should by the fist on the know users since she is the fist know user L12345 (talk) 01:12, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Venom/Math Teleportation
For Venom, expand it to include being around poison and use Organic Teleportation for model.

Math: are you talking about using math to calculate where to teleport, creating teleportation effect through math (teleportation circle of mathematical formula) or teleporting through/around mathematical formula? First is already mentioned in Teleportations Limitations, second is simply special effect and third... well, that might work but honestly it's more on the line of very limited teleportation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:42, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Desert
Want to expand it to Environment Creation? Make creation-page for every Environmental Manipulation Variation we have? --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:37, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

7th Character Sheet
New Sheet though Work In Progress.A Living Person (talk) 03:35, February 2, 2015 (UTC)A Living Person

Main Pic
When you change the main pic, old one goes to Gallery. That's been repeated quite a few times. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:17, February 2, 2015 (UTC)

Omnidirectional Disaster Waves
Expand it into Omnidirectional Waves so it becomes the main power/form of Omnidirectional Energy Waves, same way Attack Powers is to Energy Attacks. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:24, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Huh. It must be a bug or something. Gabriel456 (talk) 22:38, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Powers
Chaotic Water Manipulation - please no.

Eldritch Entity Creation - sounds interesting, but wouldn't that be Variation instead of sub-power? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you ^_^ but it is diffrent from just saying boom the universe is dead, it is like a Selective form of it, that can discriminate. But it Ends... things, it isn't like the Apocolyps where there is a new begining,

They could even reduse a god to a human :D

Ravonies (talk) 05:28, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Physical Force Immunity
Remember to check other Power Immunity variations to see which are also sub-power to this. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:07, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Scrolls
Sounds pretty limited, how about expanding that to include all forms of literary? If you check TV tropes there's a page for that, Throw a Book at Them or something. That page has link to the page I'm talking at the least. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:21, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

Energy Generation Breath
I'd say that's a Limitation/special effect of Energy Generation more than separate power. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:29, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

Pic
"13. When you add new pictures, try to find ones that aren't thumbnail-sized: if possible at least 300px wide ones. Especially as main picture the smaller ones get blurry." --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:18, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

Physic's Creation
I think we had concept creation, which could have covered this, but it seems to have been deleted. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:45, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds pretty clunky, plus it gives impression that you can't use it to make smaller additions. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:19, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Then it doesn't have any connection to Physics, which is what you're doing after all. Maybe just go with the longer name and explain in Capabilities that user can add into already existing system? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:26, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

On the other hand, we do have System Manipulation, so if you go with System Creation you could just add Physics as one of those systems... --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:27, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

power ideas
Omnidirectional Dark Elemental Waves - let's keep it limited to the basic powers. We still have quite a few of those to cover. Not to even mention the non-element/energy variations, or other Attack sub-powers.

Enhanced Cloning - sounds to me like Variation of Replication. Go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:30, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun.

To keep the theme, I'd say Paper Empowerment, and we seem to be lacking Organic Empowerment... didn't notice till now. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:26, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it. Both sound good. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:54, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Essence Combining
Is it similar to fusion-dance that is used in Dragon Ball? Because I have vague memories that we have that one already. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:17, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Could work, but you really need to find a way to explain what it does. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:10, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Please remember that when you add pics, they should be at least 300px. Especially Main pic. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:20, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Hello there. If you don't mind me asking, can Probability Manipulation control when something will happen? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:32, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Okay then. I will. Sorry about that. You could have told me before if you could. Flamerstreak (talk) 04:07, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

So, can I ask you another question? HA! JUST KIDDING! I'll leave you alone now. Flamerstreak (talk) 04:19, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

DNA/Genetics
Genetic Damage? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Just so you know, I looked up the creator of Probability Manipulation, and the person turned out to be someone called D Collins. Apparently, that user has not been here for a long time, and I am not sure how to reach him. Plus, the page went through many changes, mostly made by him. I kinda figured he was not around before, which is why I kept asking everyone else around here instead of him. So yeah, sorry for the whole asking others thing. Flamerstreak (talk) 10:26, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Not that it matters, but I was wondering if you got my last message about checking for Probability Manipulation's page creator. Did you? I just want to make sure. Flamerstreak (talk) 05:47, February 11, 2015 (UTC)

Failure/Stagnation
Got users? I think I remember RPG rule that gives player attack bonus every time they miss their opponent until they hit. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:45, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

Powers
1. Surprise Manipulation - that user wouldn't be from Touhou? I don't really think you're describing manipulation, more like Empowerment... maybe with mention that their Self-Power Augmentation might give them the powers that would be most surprising to their target...

3.Healing Command - bit too specific, expand it so it's about being able to demand/expect repayment after doing favor/giving what the other wants/needs. If you've read RPG In Nomine this is what lilim do.

Weakness Empowerment - might work, tho I have feeling we have something similar...

Healing Empowerment - could be expanded so using ones powers empowers the user: as long as they keep using their powers, they get steadily stronger but it drops the instant they're forced to stop.

Otherwise, sounds interesting, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:50, February 15, 2015 (UTC)

Pics
Please note that when you add pics, they should be at least 300px, especially main pic since expanding makes them blurry. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:22, February 15, 2015 (UTC)

The specs are 239 × 368 here, I've noticed that some pics are smaller than they should be... it's pretty annoying. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:29, February 15, 2015 (UTC)

sorry,i alwyas forgot,when i make life lordship now i don't will forgot L12345 (talk) 06:52, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

New Ideas
Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:07, February 17, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds doable.

Rayek from the ElfQuest did something similar for a whole tribe of elves, at least several hundred if not thousands. Of course they were all dead at that point, but he contained them for several weeks if not moths. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:39, February 19, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

Kakuyoku Sanren (talk) 19:25, February 20, 2015 (UTC) The Black Keys DO count, I read the original work, it clearly says they negate the healing of vampires.

Also, what I'm supposed to do with the signatures?

Kakuyoku Sanren (talk) 20:42, February 20, 2015 (UTC)There, now the wiki says it. LOL, Dead Apostle are explicitly NOT inmune to the Black Keys. It seems you do not understand how they work, the Black Keys only negate supernatural healing, the Servants heal their wounds that way so a Black Key can't affect them. But it's still healing factor nullification.

Kakuyoku Sanren (talk) 20:55, February 20, 2015 (UTC)Dude, that's like saying Gae Bolg is not a one hit kill weapon just because it can't kill Hollow because they don't have hearts. That the Black Keys just affect one kind of healing factor does not mean it doesn't negate any healing factor at all.

Also, what's the problem if I am the one editing the wiki? They were made to be edited, and if you don't take ORIGINAL WORK itsel, what I am supposed to do?

Healing Factor Nullification
As I recall, it's just to nullify Regenerative Healing Factor. Where does it say it has to be from everyone? At the very least, we could add the user and add a limitation: "May be limited to a certain species". or something.

I just don't remember a rule preventing this. Did Kuopiofi made it so in the past, and I was just unaware of it? Gabriel456 (talk) 21:28, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

Kakuyoku Sanren (talk) 21:33, February 20, 2015 (UTC)The Black Keys do not only work on vampires, and such thing is never mentioned in the wiki. So you have no excuse to say that they don't count.

Kakuyoku Sanren (talk) 21:41, February 20, 2015 (UTC)Wrong, it says that "they affect vampires", not that "they ONLY affect vampire". So you are misinterpreting the text at convenience.

Question
If Absolute Thievery can steal physics, can it do Power Absorption? to steal the powers of others? Gabriel456 (talk) 22:30, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

should i put Limiter Removal as a application of Absolute Thievery? L12345 (talk) 23:55, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

last i checked i can add a picture to the main if I want, especially if it's a better one.Squidbaby (talk) 00:22, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry but the page doesn't belong to u just because u made it, its for everyone to edit, so u don't just make rules. I made pages and if the pic someone else choose is better than i leave it plus I made research on the person on the main pic and they do not have absolute theivery. Ban actually comes closer to it becuase he doesn't need to hide or be sneaky to steal physical objects, abilities or physical capabilities from someone else.Squidbaby (talk) 00:40, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

so when has Thief has done this?Squidbaby (talk) 00:46, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Then make the pages yourself instead of adding bs (no offense) just to fill the page.Squidbaby (talk) 00:50, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Admins okays the page not necessarily the entire content either way it doesn't make the page accurate. If it's absolute thievry, then there is no need to be sneaky. The page is flawed whether gabriel sees it or not. I'm sorry, i really am but i have to tell u this, what u are doing is being petty with the pages u create. Just because u made it doesn't mean it gets frozen in time because you ideas are so perfect. A theif steals, not manipulates things. If a fellow participant sees something that doesn't make sense,then he or she is entitled to make changes. Your obstructing another persons right to change the page to something REASONABLE, I didn't change the entire content, it's still Absolute Thievery .Squidbaby (talk) 01:03, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

To be honest, yes it's hard to understand how chastity and courage manipulation is there because manipulation powers entails other abilities which do not fall in the capabilities of Absolute Thievery, I agree there should be a thievery page for the both of them ("but a thief is still manipulating it so he can steal it") but that thought process does not make sense, then you should add about ten thousand other links if that's the case. Do u understand the word COMMUNITY because that is what this is, YOU DO NOT DO THIS ON YOUR OWN NOR MAKE UP RULES. There are other people who are not admins that can help and make changes so i am entitled to do as I please within reason while following the rules.Squidbaby (talk) 01:28, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

I feel strongly about this because I actually attempted to make the page but never finished then u show up, do it, and mak things difficult because ur being selfish with the page. I do not appreciate that whatsoever.Squidbaby (talk) 01:32, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

That's irrational. A theif cannot generate chastity. a thief can only remove and give things back, THAT'S ALL.Squidbaby (talk) 01:38, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

IRRATIONAL.

i want to ask,can a person with absolute thievery use power bestowal?by giving a stealed power to someone else?or they can't give a stoled power? L12345 (talk) 01:42, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Leave Manipulations out until u or someone else makes a thievery page for it, that's what anybody else would do.Squidbaby (talk) 01:44, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

THEN MAKE AN EXPERIENCE THIEVERY PAGE. THE ENTIRE MANIPULATIONS SHOULD NOT BE IN ABSOLUTE THIEVERY, Its not about whether experience manipulation can steal experience, its about experience, courage, chastity, ect. being an APPLICATION to Absolute Thievery, HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT. Absolute Thievery OOONNLLYYY steals not manipulates. Do not add manipulations to applications because you cannot find the thievery page for it, MAKE IT YOURSELF then add chastity, experience, courage thievery to the page not the manipulations. I understand why u want them on the page but hold them off from Absolute Thievery until u make thievery versions of those powers. That is more than common knowledge, it'st COMMON SENSE.Squidbaby (talk) 02:10, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Absolute Thievery
Squidbaby has a point. If all it can do is steal, I don't think any manipulation pages should be listed. Even if you mean just for the stealing aspects, I just feel it wrong to put them as applications. I just feel it implies that the user can, well, manipulate those things when all it is supposed to do is steal.

Can't they at-least be in associations? Since "Experience Absorption" (and so on) don't exist, but in associations, they'd still be related to AT in that sense.

This is just my opinion on the matter, anyway. Gabriel456 (talk) 02:13, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

i putted it twice?oh sorry i only seed it now kkkk,a,and i forgeted to ask,what you thinked about the power i maked (absolute change) L12345 (talk) 02:43, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks ^^ L12345 (talk) 02:48, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

how is transforming a prison into a fortress has anything to do with Stealing? This is why u cannot edit pages by yourself. This is an online community; therefore, anything you do on pages can be changed if it doesn't make any sense. Please add links to Absolue Thievery (keep them thievery related) that actually make sense or else the credibility of the page goes downhill. The opinions of admins are not the only opinions that matters so please realize u cannot overlod a page just because u made it.Squidbaby (talk) 04:17, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Thievery
Let's keep this on Talk-pages, and not spread it into Talk and Comments.

Just add Absorption and remove every Variation of that, you remove quite a few powers from the list by that alone.

Several powers have powers on the list already as their sub-powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:32, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Soo, did you plan just add Absorption on the list and removing its Variations or leave them all there? From the description every Absorption is on the reach of AT-user.

I didn't say that the powers they shared were absorptions, I said that several powers that are in AT have Sub-powers/Applications that are on the AT list. Some several times. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:56, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Do we have anything that would allow Absorption User to pass their power to someone else? Power Bestowal for the stolen powers? Power Sharing comes close but isn't really it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:02, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

well,should absolute restoration be a ``limitation´´?since it can make anthing that has been stoled come back to its oritinal places? L12345 (talk) 19:58, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

That power seems to be something entirely specific to Power Absorption Immunity, not Power Anchoring in a whole (PA is immune to far more than just stealing, after all)

I'm just pointing that out Gabriel456 (talk) 20:10, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

and what about omni-negation,nonexistence,meta power manipulation and immutability ? L12345 (talk) 20:13, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

well,i readed it,but i doesn't understanded what steal de concept of stealing would change manipulation in any way,and immutability is the power to be immune to any external forces, and is a variation of omnilock (althoug absolute change can affect the user) so it is not even linked to power anchoring in any way,and i said Meta power manipulation because it can cnotrol all every powers without limits (including absoltue thievery),nonexistence because it could erase the power,and omni-negation negate it. L12345 (talk) 20:30, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

yeah,various forms of manipulation,but none all of them,and by the explain that you gived,it looks like that great majory of things that steals something are living (and dead) things,and well,you read what i edited when i talked about immutability? L12345 (talk) 20:45, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

but how can you use a power that you don't has anymore? (since it has been erased from you),and what about omni-negation?on the case,you could steal the concept of negation,but the user could negate your power fist,so you couldn't use it to steal negation,so the question is how is the one use the power fist,and immutability?it is a variation of omnilock,and meta power manipulation can modify and manipulate any power without limits, including meta, omni and even omnipotent powers by controlling the fundamental force that all powers are created from (that menas that they could modify what absolute thievery do) L12345 (talk) 20:58, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

well,even if the users can steal even from nothingness,how could them steal from it if tehy don't have the power anymore (since it is erased) ,and actually,even if you steal concepts,they will still be existing and working,you have stealed them don't will make them leave to exist,and what you think about what i saided: (the thing of omni-negation about:you could steal the concept of negation,but the user could negate your power fist,so you couldn't use it to steal negation,so the question is how is the one use the power fist) L12345 (talk) 21:13, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

i don't think that Absolute restoration should be a application,since it is not only about making things back form nothingness/non-existence,is about to restore anything back to it original state,not only what has been erased L12345 (talk) 21:21, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

name
That's pretty specific power... well, you can make the power. Just be aware that it might be deemed too specific and removed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:33, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

well,i know that they can steal things that llogicaly wouldn't be able to steal,the power is about that,but its still a power,but it can be still be erased by nonexistence,so it couldn't use it to take it back anymore since they don't have it anymore,and nonexistence (like AT) is also is a power that is illogical (since it can erase logic)so is the case that it is up to the author decide how will win,oh,and you don't talked about (the thing of omni-negation about:you could steal the concept of negation,but the user could negate your power fist,so you couldn't use it to steal negation,so the question is how is the one use the power fist),how,now i remembered,you already thinked about the Absolute Restoration. L12345 (talk) 22:20, February 21, 2015 (UTC)

Supernatural Smell
That "across space" makes it sound more like one of the Absolute Senses than supernatural one. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:11, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

The page in itself is within the supernatural limits, pic-caption is the only place where it gets bit confusing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:23, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think we have a power like that at all, so go ahead Gabriel456 (talk) 20:51, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Powers
Defensive Damage sounds more like what Kenpachi does: attacking him causes damage to the attacker unless they are more powerful than he is.

What you describe is pretty close to Defense Break.

Napalm Generation is pretty close. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:15, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,i want your opinion,i was thinking on make a power like:Absolute Melting,the power to melt anything.what you think about it? L12345 (talk) 22:58, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Which is why I said NG is pretty close to what you're talking about. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Completely missed the point about Defensive Damage, and what you made reflects this. The point is that the one who attacks gets hurt and the attacked isn't. In other words, it reflects the attack back to the attacker.

Your explanation is so contradictory that it makes absolutely no sense. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:05, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,i whant your opinion, i'am with a pretty crazy idea for a power on my head,it is Read String Manipulation,the ability to manipulate the red strings of fate. what you think about it? L12345 (talk) 07:04, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

well,tecnically yes,but someone that manipulates the red strings of fate don't is able to manipulate love itself,only the love between those linked with the string,and the user could also use the strings as a weapons,create things out of it,etc,like thread manipulation,tecnically if you see,it would be a Combination of Thread manipulation and Love Manipulation,is that what make it good idea,because i don't think that has some power here that is the combination of a emotional force and a object. L12345 (talk) 07:46, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Make that Curse variation of Effect Field Projection and you got something. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:07, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,what you think about a like Absolute Melting - the ability to melt anything.? L12345 (talk) 19:33, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

well, i only asked to kuopiofi,so now i will ask to another admins (Like DYBAD) to see what they think (for example,if i remember,DYBAD don't allowed me to make the absolute change,but Kuopiofi allowed) L12345 (talk) 20:27, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Attack Compression
Phrase it so it includes all forms of Attack Powers, including infusion, and you got workable idea. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:29, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

is a good ideia that of Wind Mastery of your,a lesser version of sky lordship,it has several userss for a power like that (even of valkyrei has one) L12345 (talk) 20:41, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

No. We already have enough of lordships, and adding ones that are simply "this but more/less" don't cut it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:56, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Opposing Forces Empowerment
You mean literally Yin & Yang Manipulation, or any opposing forces? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:25, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:54, February 26, 2015 (UTC)

well,since omni-negation is the power to negate and nullify anything,tecnically is a valid limitation,but when the cgreat majory of powers says something like:can't be broken no matter what (like unbreakable bones) or something like that.the:no matter what. don't generally includes omni-power that can alter the reality and existence like that,and tecnically,omni-negation is a limitation for nearly all powers here,since its the ability to negate and nullify anything,but whe don't put it on as a limitation of every power,only on the ones of it's level (like reality warping) L12345 (talk) 01:03, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

well,that is a valid limitation,but i don't know if it would only break the bond between those connected by the string or break the string itself,just in the case,if i create the power i will put like that: Bond Destruction can destroy the bond between those link by the strings. L12345 (talk) 01:18, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

Power Idea
Sounds good to me. but any possible (sub-power, technique, variation or simple association) relation with Oneiric Reality Manipulation? Gabriel456 (talk) 03:14, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

Alright then. Make it as you please Gabriel456 (talk) 03:22, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

Ideas
1. Tongue Combat- Organic Combat and Enhanced Combat cover various uses of ones body in combat.

2. Atomic Consumption- sounds more like variation of destruction.

3. Property Infusion/Introduction- might work, more details.

4. Conceptual Property Manipulation- Concept Manipulation does it already.

1. Duration Transformation- I think we already have affinity for similar.

2. Tableware combat- might work, variation of Weapon Proficiency and maybe Improbable Weapon Proficiency.

3. Avian transformation- Avian Physiology --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:29, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

Variation of Animal Transformation then, that'll work. Ideas for other variations to AT? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:55, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

Variations placement
Page Creation and Details:
 * Also Called
 * Capabilities
 * Applications
 * Techniques
 * Variations
 * Associations
 * Limitations
 * Known Users
 * Gallery

--Kuopiofi (talk) 20:16, February 27, 2015 (UTC)

variations
When you start making variations of power, start from the broadest option and go down from there. In case of Animal Transmutations, you could have made Mammal Transmutation instead of two minor ones. Collapsed into that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:08, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Does it exist
Hey Sage, I was wondering if Explosion Infusioned exists, because I was looking for it and cant find it, thanks for your help, if you do help. TheRavageBeast (talk) 21:01, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Well its close enough, thanks. TheRavageBeast (talk) 21:20, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Ideas
Sorry it took so long to answer, I started reading long fanfic that isn't separated into chapters, really didn't want to miss the spot and ended up finishing so late I decided just to go to sleep.

Love Draining - what's the difference between absorption and draining? We have Emotion Absorption already.

Conceptual Eating - what's the difference between absorption and eating?

Boundary Immunity - That's pretty narrowly focused power. Is the description literally that? If it is, you might as well put the user into Selective Invulnerability and just add that as definition. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:29, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Love Draining - expand that to Emotion Draining, we seem to be missing that one.

Conceptual Eating - could work. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:06, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Love Draining - we have Emotion Negation, which does the thing. Love Negation maybe? --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:38, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Love Draining as you define it would be Absorption too (you gain something from what you absorb), I'm going to work all its Variations to reflect what it is. Draining would be completely removing the targeted thing without gaining any advantage/use of it.

Mind Letters (you need to figure better name if you use it) would be variation of Mind Reading like Visual Telepathy. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:54, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Love Draining - I think that'd be two powers actually, one to tap/drain from the source (love) and other to focus it into the attack.

Mind Words works. Have fun.

Cursed Body - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:31, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Deas
Teleportation Slash - how's that work? The cut part gets teleported (might actually be pretty interesting technique if it's the second option) or the whole target goes away?

Technology Embodiment - well, at least it's relatively reasonable embodiment idea... --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:49, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

User you chose? That mean there are users you don't use?

Remember to mention both options on Capabilities. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:12, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Omni-Consumption
Isn't that basically Absorption? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:00, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Eating
I've actually been thinking doing something like that, but well... Absorption allows you to devour/destroy what-ever and gain something from that, Affinity allows you to draw power from what-ever without destroying it (except food).

The part that involves just destroying/removing the what-ever tho... Destruction is pretty much the top power there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:14, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

How would it differ from Destruction? Because if the difference is that user eats the what-ever, just add "Must eat what they destroy." or something to D's Limitations. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:20, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Metabolizing something means you gain energy/sustenance from it, that's absorption. If you make something just disappear, that's destruction. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:35, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

To be honest, there's no reason why you can't make it, it's just that Matter Ingestion and Absorptions that deal with solid matter are pretty damn close to each other...

Maybe call it specific Variation of Absorption? Or just ignore the similarities... --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:57, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

That's a theory you cannot confirm that so until someone who has made the cartoon does you cannot say anything and just expect that the fact that he is invincible.

He wasn't series when he said that and plus you don't know if he died before they got married

You are getting emotional sage lets just ask other people for their opinion

First, I need confirmation. According to the wiki for the series, it states: "Years later, he becomes the great-grandfather to Miu's and Kenichi's daughter, heavily implying Kenichi was able to defeat him in battle (or at least Miu and/or Saiga already gave Kenichi their blessings)". Got any other sources on this? Please tell/show if you do.

Otherwise, I'm not sure what to do in this situation Gabriel456 (talk) 22:23, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

No idea either. Sounds bit like telekinesis using spatial manipulation/warping. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:19, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Emotion Locking
Remember to add that it may be permanent or temporary, and go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Cloth Transmutation
I wanted to ask you a question about Cloth Transmutation, Can some turn like a T-shirt or Bulletproof vest into a Coat or Jacket, or any other clothing. TheRavageBeast (talk) 19:16, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Suit
As in set of garments? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:13, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Well, we do have Bandage Mimicry... just remember to mention that it includes all forms of clothing, not just the suits. Cloth mimicry includes anything that is made of cloth as a material, this is about garments. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:20, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Recharging
I have vague memory that we might have something like that... --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:01, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

Territory
Empowerment might work, tho we do have Environmental Empowerment, which gets pretty close to it. Please no more Embodiments... --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:53, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

Omni-Closure
I'm trying to figure out if Absolute Storage already does that... Absolute Lock Manipulation could be related to it anyway. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:44, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,actually i also know a user for omni-closure,the character has the power to open and close anything. L12345 (talk) 21:05, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

Probably at least Associations anyway. Go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:10, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,i want yout opinion,someone that can open and close anything would be considered a user of Absolute Lock Manipulation? L12345 (talk) 23:27, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,i want to ask,someone that;Watch over all creation.would have what kind of power L12345 (talk) 19:43, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

yeah,i think that is something like that,but i'am not sure,i'am asking because there a character i know that has this power,and i would like to know what kind of power it is. L12345 (talk) 19:57, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Hardness
I think we have something like that, it just does the same to every material. Can't remember the name... --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:13, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think we have a page for that. None that I can recall, anyways. Gabriel456 (talk) 22:14, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

I have very vague memories that there's something like that dealing with elements, but that's about it. Certainly not about any power we have. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:14, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

Might want to work the name, but otherwise have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:48, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

Ideas
Have fun, remember to mention it's area effect transformation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:24, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Stuff
Because it there was only minor difference to the Power Replication.

Sonic Healing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:22, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

So Variation of SH like Music Manipulation is variation of Sound Manipulation? Oh well... have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:52, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

Just add it as Variation of Hatred Inducement. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:00, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

Kinetic Teleportation - no, just no. We already have excessive amount of Teleportation Variations with only difference being often quite minimal difference to how the transfer happens.

Memory Overwrite - Go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:10, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

Make it Poison Transmutation and Variation of Organic Transmutation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:38, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

Are we talking about this Battery? Because from what the wiki-page says her power doesn't really sound like Patience Empowerment.

Double Counter - I think we have something similar... pretty regent one too.

Energy Amplification already exists. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:43, March 17, 2015 (UTC)

Make that Intangibility Infusion and you got something. Variation of Spatial Infusion maybe? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:11, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

That's just One Hit Kill with weapon, nothing more. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:50, March 20, 2015 (UTC)

Limb Projection/Manifestation - that needs explanation, did you check what Manifested Attacks does? Because what you describe doesn't really have anything to do with it.

Invisibility Infusion - works. Go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 23:04, March 20, 2015 (UTC)

Cloning/Replication Empowerment - that's... pretty specific power. Sure, go for it.

Can they re-combine those clones and gain power from that? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:42, March 22, 2015 (UTC)

Remember to note that one too. Maybe as something that isn't available to all users. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:48, March 22, 2015 (UTC)

Life Replacement - by "replace any/all life that has been destroyed with new life" you mean exactly what? User is able to perform mass resurrection or something like that? That's Resurrection Field Projection.

Species Replacement - ...what... --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:12, March 22, 2015 (UTC)

So area effect Life Creation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:52, March 22, 2015 (UTC)

Make it Variation of Effect Field Projection, and notice that we have Life Field Projection. Might be related.

I think you need different name tho'. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:09, March 22, 2015 (UTC)

Short and to point, go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:54, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Death Constructs - use Death-Force Constructs and compare it to Life-Force Constructs. Remember to check if D-FM has powers that would go to it.

Poison-Light Manipulation - call it radiation and you get the same result.

Power Resonance - I think we have something similar, it has Soul Eaters main character as main pic. Check Superpower Manipulation if there's link for that one. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:46, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:00, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Find better name. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:21, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

Energy/Power Scattering - expand that to include all form/sources of energy.

Planetary Energy Manipulation - we already have something similar, but I can't remember the name.

Living Illusion Creation - isn't that pretty close to Sentient Power? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:23, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Might have some level of connection to SP anyway. Depends on how independent/permanent the illusion is. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:44, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Consciousness Separation - expand it to/include ability to separate other astral form/soul either by force or by their agreement and add it as sub-power to Soul Manipulation. Soul Removal may be related. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:25, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Cutting Field Projection - I think Weapon Aura pretty much covers that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:28, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:45, March 28, 2015 (UTC)

Your power
Sounds good to me, go ahead and make it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:59, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

I never encountered a problem like that, so I don't know how to fix it.

Maybe you should go to community central and see if anyone could help? Gabriel456 (talk) 23:14, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

By state of being you mean solid/liquid/gas or something else?

There was Spiderman villain who sifted between being ice and fire...

By constantly sifting, do you mean that user doesn't have any control over their state? If so, that sounds more like a Limitation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:42, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry, I already gave him a block. If he continues it after it ends, I'll block him for good. Gabriel456 (talk) 20:00, April 7, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,you know if here have some power that gives immunity to causality (or causation)? is because know a user of a power like that,she:outdo even laws of causation.this would count as beign immune to causality?by surpassing it? L12345 (talk) 07:34, April 8, 2015 (UTC)

yeah,i also thinked about it,but as whe know,be immune and negate are two different things,so,apparentely the power was not made yet,i think i will do it,i only need to think what be immune to causality would allow you to do. L12345 (talk) 07:40, April 8, 2015 (UTC)

I don't know, that sounds like Lifeless Body Creation. But if you can show the exact differences, go ahead Gabriel456 (talk) 12:06, April 8, 2015 (UTC)

Slashing powers
Please stop churning out more slash-versions of power, especially inducions. We already have enough of those, thanks to you. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:31, April 12, 2015 (UTC)

Living Limiter
That's Life Creation with single power limit. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:53, April 16, 2015 (UTC)

Self-Gravity Manipulation
Basically Gravity Manipulation with Limitation affects only self? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:18, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

Question here is, how/what could the user do with this power? Is it limited to affecting gravity as it affect them from the outside, or can they somehow move beyond that. Because if the user is limited to the first option, it's basically making themselves lighter/heavier, shifting the way gravity pulls them and so on.

Not to say that it isn't usable power, but what practical applications it has. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:29, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

In other words, self and what they touch.

Well, since you're so focused on that... might want to consider different name tho', S-GM is bit clunky. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:29, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

Way too specific, just add them to Improbable Weapon Proficiency. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:22, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Isn't that basically special effect/Limitation of Creation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:41, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Body chemistry doesn't include conceptual things.

Photokinetic Surfing - go for it, got users? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:57, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Ideas
Parallel Viewing/Alternate Reality Viewing - sounds usable. go for it.

Compressed Weaponry - are you taking about creating weapons from compressed matter or compressing matter to weapons? Either way, I think you might want to consider making instead power to compress matter into more dense form, I'm pretty sure we don't have that one. check Density Manipulation for sure.

Absolute Access - Omnilocked sounds bit too much, but otherwise sounds good. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:25, April 23, 2015 (UTC)

Ice Mimicry
In responce undoing my edit. Mizore can form ice around herself but can't become it, otherwise mizore wouldn't bleed and would shatter or crack when hit, they can form ice clones but that is as close as I can find. Ive read through the manga, but if ive missed something im sorry.

ProfessorPanties (talk) 06:03, April 23, 2015 (UTC)

Possessions
You'll need to move most of the Possession Variations into it, since right now those don't really belong there. After all, P is about possessing only people and the Variations include possession of objects, corpses, etc. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:22, April 24, 2015 (UTC)

Defect Enhancement
While idea is god, you might want to think different name for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:28, April 24, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,you think that absolute access would be a application of absolute lock manipulation,by unlocking access to any location, place or time. L12345 (talk) 21:59, April 24, 2015 (UTC)

oh,ok,its fine,well,i think it would be,because even though it doesn't really have much to do with locking/unlocking,you can still gain access to any location by unlocking access to it,and that would be a way to gain access to that locations,and also,one of the meaings of Unlock is:to give access to.what do you think?. L12345 (talk) 22:18, April 24, 2015 (UTC)

well,you would be able to only lock, or only unlock,you are not restained to do both is because that that absolute lock has separetad applications part for Unlocking,Locking and Both,it could be on there like:Unlock Access to any place,location or time. or something,like it.and also,users of absolute lock could use the power without the the:may be unable to leave without help.limitation. L12345 (talk) 01:04, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Ideas
Exhaustion/Fatigue Touch - Expand that to Fatigue Inducement, we don't have that one yet.

Transcendent Hive Mind - ... really really need to do something about these Transcendent powers that keep popping up... please no. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:37, April 26, 2015 (UTC)

Endless Growth/Size - Considering that neither Size Manipulation or Size Enhancement have any limits to how big the user can grow, and Galactus is already user and he's demonstrably gone to galactic size, I'd say it's already covered. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:10, April 26, 2015 (UTC)

Those meta-powers popping up... well, go ahead.

Incidentally, Endless Growth might as well be usable since I'm planning to a Levels into SM and we have powers which have separate powers for each level. Any ideas for what could be the opposite power for EG? Something on the sub-atomic level maybe?

hey sage,you will still make the meta time manipulaton page? L12345 (talk) 19:48, April 27, 2015 (UTC)

oh ok,it because i only wanted to know if powerful embodiments of time (such as chronos.the primordial god of time) and temporal entities would be users of it L12345 (talk) 20:34, April 27, 2015 (UTC)

Temporal Displacement - go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:03, April 27, 2015 (UTC)

And their size is still relatively "normal" level, what's the size of biggest orc around? House? Tree? Skyscraper? Mountain? Moon? Planet? Galaxy?

They can still interact with normal sized humanoids at the top of their size, that's the point. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:35, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

When you add main pic, find one that's big enough you don't have to expand it. MTM main pic is 295px, you expanded it into 340. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

Main pic in Meta Time Manipulation is 295px, unless you switch it to bigger version don't change the imagewidth as that only makes it blurry. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:43, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good, go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:36, April 29, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:26, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

Expand that to all technology (techno-empathy?) and go. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:20, May 2, 2015 (UTC)

halp
"Dr. Goat (Dr. 山羊, Dokutā Yagi) is a doctor who appears in Today's Highlight Island and Dr. Slump. Dr. Goat is stated to be able to heal everything: humans, animals, radios, cars, and sicknesses; but he is not very serious."

what power would that be? absolute healing? 02:28, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

No it's not the rules so don't make any up. This is going to be the last time you'll leave me POed. STOP INFRINGING MY RIGHTS on this wiki.

8. When you add pics into Gallery, include the series and check that they are in Known Users.


 * 8a. This includes the main pic of the page.
 * 8a1. When you change the main pic, old one goes to Gallery, if there isn't one it's your job to make it.

So yes I can so stop the edit conflict and know the rules before you try to throw it at someones face. Look at the rules I pasted yourself and you can see that I followed them.Squidbaby (talk) 03:03, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

The Rules Copied and Pasted
I should have published this a long time ago. I am sorry for the long delay but I have been busy with things and I have forgotten it.

1. Don't make a page that is already on this wiki or it will be deleted.

2. When a page has little to no content. It will be deleted.

3. Do not make any negative comments to a power or to another user on the wiki. They will be blocked for a undisclosed amount of time.

4. No religious debates. If anyone breaks this rule they will be blocked for 24 hours.

5. Do not be a smarty-pants. Scientific logic, debates, and opinions are okay.

6. Do not change the content of a existing page for there own benefit. What I mean is don't change it of how you see it has because opinions will clash and it will disclosed to a argument.

These rules will be subjected to change and are not permanent. Other rules will have to wait.

Few additional ones that need to be Codified:

7. Don't change the page-name unless you have a very good reason, we have Also Called for a reason.
 * 7a. If you change the name, it's your job to change the links for that power. Use this to find the old links.

8. When you add pics into Gallery, include the series and check that they are in Known Users.
 * 8a. This includes the main pic of the page.
 * 8a1. When you change the main pic, old one goes to Gallery, if there isn't one it's your job to make it.

9. Do not edit the user pages of others. First time gets a warning, second time gets block.
 * 9a. This includes other peoples messages on Talk-page.

10. Characters that are put up must be from published canon source. Fanfiction and OCs do not count and will be removed.

11. No world/verse/series specific powers are allowed and will be deleted. (For example, Kryptonian Physiology or Dementor Physiology)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page.

13. When you add new pictures, try to find ones that aren't thumbnail-sized: if possible at least 300px wide ones. Especially as main picture the smaller ones get blurry.
 * 13a. No gifs that exceed 400px wide, as they tend to take up a lot of the page.
 * 13b. Give the pic real name, no numbers or random string of characters.

14. If you're told and shown the Rule you've broken, and you ignore this and repeat it for more than five times, it results 1 days block. Repeats after this increase the blog time.

15. This isn't place for advertising your products. If you try to do that, first time gets you warning, second years block.

16. Don't go creating Categories on a whim, we already have way too many of them.

Ideas
Sounds good, go for it.

Tho' I have vague memories about something similar to Death Prevention, might want to check that one... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:29, May 5, 2015 (UTC)

re:Telekinetic Regeneration
I thought the greatest attraction for an info-box image is to show the power in work, while the galleries can forgo that with just users without showing that power. Yatanogarasu (talk) 00:00, May 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * How about Mewtwo using psychic energy to rejuvenate its cells then, as you can see? Shows psychic energy, better than just a picture of some Marvel guys flying in a group, which does not show any power. Yatanogarasu (talk) 00:02, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

Seriously, why are there so many self-powers coming up... --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:06, May 12, 2015 (UTC)

Ideas
Faith Manipulation - make that Belief Manipulation and it's more extensive. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:33, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Decision Manipulation - bit too specific I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:21, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Sonic Pulverization - isn't that basically Granulation using sonics? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:57, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe expand it to cover all types of effects that can pulverize matter via indirect forces. Would erosion fall under this concept? --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:59, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

World Representation - isn't that basically Object Immortality/Self-Puppetry using planet as the anchor/focus? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:52, May 17, 2015 (UTC)

Coral Mimicry - Go ahead, just remember to add it into Organic Mimicry and try to find if there are users for Coral Manipulation. We seem to be missing that one. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:02, May 20, 2015 (UTC)

Good call, I completely forgot about that one. Anything about Coral Manipulation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:25, May 20, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun, and if you run into anything resembling coral manipulation do add it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:15, May 20, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,that character you put on Absolute growth inducement,by what i'am seeing,she can only increse her size with no limit,so why you put she on there? (oh,iand i want to ask about the Omni-Consumption)

oh,well,i'am seeing that the >Huge Scale makes it so that there is no limit to how large she can become, while the ``Grow Up Grow cheats to modify "Experience Point Bonus", which allows the user to gain a bonus percentage of experience points after a battle, to "Always gaining Experience Points.´´ (and i want to ask,what is the Omni-Consumption power you will make does?) L12345 (talk) 02:05, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

well,so,would it be a application of hunger and gluttony embodiment? and what about famine from supernatural, he can eat virtually anything, except for god and another horseman,and about that Kingprotea, it doesnt appear that she could induce grown on anything, only on her size and experience points L12345 (talk) 02:12, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

well,technically,it is what famine can do,he can devour pratically anything ,except for god and another horseman (as i already said) and since these are the only things he cannot eat, and Consumption of what he devours, can strengthen him.i think that he is able to eat everything aside them,not only matter.and about gluttony embodiment? it is stated that the user `` gain the power to eat anything´´ L12345 (talk) 02:22, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

oh,ok,well,would high level users of gluttony embodiment be able of this powers? since it is stated that the users can :eat anythong and anyone.? L12345 (talk) 02:59, May 21, 2015 (UTC)

In regards to Zexion
Not sure how informative the KH Wiki is in regards to the actual battle against him, but he transforms others aswell as himself into books, even if it is a temporary form it should still be valid considering this power specificly states "To use the traits of books".

But mayhap it is altogether an illusion cast on himself to hide amidst the clarion of pages and paper swirling about his arena during the skirmish, to which I cannot argue anything against, because at that point it is all really speculation on either side of the argument.

hey sage,actually,there is already a Omni-Consumption,it is Reality Consumption. L12345 (talk) 06:25, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

oh,okay, now i understanded,sorry for that,it is because the capabilities of Reeality Consumption confused me.so i think it need to be changed. L12345 (talk) 06:54, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

Could be, but I haven't really been following all of the changes they do. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:15, May 26, 2015 (UTC)

Ideas
Cosmic Anchor - might want to consider other name (cosmic keystone maybe?), but otherwise go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:10, May 27, 2015 (UTC)

Empathic Environmental Manipulation - ...really should have nipped that line of powers from the beginning.... sure, have fun.

Memory Vessel - I think you should go with ability to contain/store memories into something (object, being, maybe even environment, including buildings) and ability to create item that can do that as special variation. There's also magic item (memory bottle or something) from AD&D. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:37, May 28, 2015 (UTC)

Divine Beast
In your opinion, would the Leviathans from Supernatural be legit users for Divine Beast Physiology? Gabriel456 (talk) 02:41, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll put them up as users for now until we got something solid. I only thought so as they have been described by Death as "beasts", and if the companion guide is canon, were the primal serpents of the sea before they evolved to gain Possession.

anyways, thanks for the answer :) Gabriel456 (talk) 02:49, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Ideas
Hair Mimicry - you are very strange man... Cousin It? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:33, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, but it only applies to the user, not anything else aside from the user. Flamerstreak (talk) 01:24, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Power Locking - I think Telepathy has Application that does something pretty similar... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

A bit late, but thanks. Flamerstreak (talk) 01:32, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Bouncing Inducement - Might want to expand that to something more... unfortunately I can't think what else it could include.

Luck Negation - Jinx does this, it isn't mentioned in Capabilities but Applications does. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:30, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Blocked for 3 days, gave him a warning. All we can do is wait and see. Gabriel456 (talk) 22:18, June 5, 2015 (UTC)

exhibition gallery mode
hey sageM exhibition gallery mode isn't gone on sheets Wikia so I don't think it's been killed.

Grant.walker (talk) 03:45, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Grant.walker (talk) 03:47, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

its still on sheets wikia. i litterally just checked it five seconds ago

Grant.walker (talk) 03:47, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Ideas
Environmental Transformation - sounds interesting, but you need to give more details:

When you say user transforms when entering a new environment, does this mean it's something related to the new environment or just completely random? Something that helps user on that environment or just change without any meaning aside of the change itself?

Does this include complete transformation (animal, element?) or just mimicking qualities? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:30, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

So it's related to the environment then. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

You mean any kind of prediction, fortune reading, etc.? Sounds like Destiny Manipulation or one of its Applications. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:46, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Psychic Animation - just add the User into Animation Users with mention that they use psychic energy to do it and you're done. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Liquid Transformation - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Ra's al Ghoul
While he technically ages he is Immortal through his use of the Lazarus Pits that constantly rejuvenates his body and at the price of his sanity. I am almost thinking he fits both Decelerated Aging and Immortality as he both ages and de-ages through the the pits.Jester of chaos (talk) 02:41, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Actually he has been doing it for centuries so not really as rare as you might think and even on occasion described as near immortal. Yes it kills heathy people but he has seemingly found out when to enter so he can live indefinitely.Jester of chaos (talk) 03:03, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Alright I will add him to Semi-Immortality. I just saw he seemed to be on there for a while and it held a variety of the forms not just those with Absolute Immortality including those who are Semi-Immortality, Immortal Cloning so I gues I misunderstood stood that and for that I am sorry.Jester of chaos (talk) 03:49, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Palpatine question
Thank you for answering my question but it seems that's just Energy Drain less on Souls the only reason I even added Darth Vitiate is its rumored by people in universe that he actually had absorbed souls through his Sith Alchdmey and rituals.Jester of chaos (talk) 21:22, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Dimensional Travel - Spirits
Following what I do know of DAL there are some Spirits that can choose when they "wake up" crossing over to Earth, and that's the reason they don't cause Space-quacks(unless the chose to that is). The reason I added all is as the limitations says in some cases the user don't have control meaning it's just for those who do travel between dimensions wether or not they have control over it. I am not trying to be a pain in your neck and that's the reason I am leaving this message it's to explain my reasoning and how I understand how the page works.Jester of chaos (talk) 21:08, June 10, 2015 (UTC)

Re: The Lich-Anti God
While I see similarities I personally see problems yes he exsisted before the modern setting he didn't predate the multi-verse like it says but while I can get past this his powers while great aren't up to the ones listed. He mostly is just death personified as all he thinks about is well everything dying leaving the multi-verse lifeless. I am just telling you why I feel he fails but on this I won't argue beyond this. I do hope you and I can be friends as I have nothing against you just differing in a few occasions (I admit I have made some mistakes recently with labeling and appreciate being told so and for that I'd like to thank you).Jester of chaos (talk) 02:39, June 11, 2015 (UTC)

Ideas
Water Bullets - expand that to elemental bullets and have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, June 12, 2015 (UTC)

I really have no clue. You should probably take this to Community Central, see if anyone knows how there. Otherwise, I have no idea.

I'm sorry for not being much use here.. Gabriel456 (talk) 22:29, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

I never really encountered this problem before, it has to be a bug with wikia or something.

I really don't know what else to say or do about this. I'm not going to be of much use, I'm afraid. Gabriel456 (talk) 22:48, June 13, 2015 (UTC)

Ideas
Blade/Sword Empowerment - expand that to Weapon Empowerment and have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:43, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Supernatural Swordsmanship - expand it to Supernatural version of Weapon Proficiency. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:15, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

If you don't mind me asking, just to make sure, Experience Manipulation can increase the level of one's skill to such a high level without needing to go through years of actual experience, right? Flamerstreak (talk) 22:36, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Okay then. Thanks! Flamerstreak (talk) 22:45, June 14, 2015 (UTC)

Divine Banishment - that's pretty narrow focus... sure, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 03:31, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

well,i think that negation is okay by what you said,but not the immunity. L12345 (talk) 18:25, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

through some deities/divine beings are to OP,and could easily bypass the banishment (like i putted on the limitations),oh,and also,do you know a Transcendent fairy? because i am planning to do a Transcendent fairy physiology,but i don't know how to start.

i also known one,titania from VC,the divine queen of the fairies (since on the Chinese version of the game,she is stated to be a goddess), the problem is that i don't know very well what to put on capabilities,and even less on applications. L12345 (talk) 18:50, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

ok,thanks,well,anyway,do you have any suggestion of what put on there? L12345 (talk) 19:03, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,i want to ask,would sword master from VC fit as a user of that Supernatural Swordsmanship you is planning to do? she is master of all sword techniques,and so skilled with a sword that her speed with a sword can reach to a godlike speed. L12345 (talk) 23:56, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

well,since she is so skilled with a sword that her speed with a sword can reach to a godlike speed, and master of all sword techniques, i think she would fit (principally because her godlike speed with a sword, and combining that with the fact that she is master of all sword techniques, would make she be able to do several and several physically impossible things with blades,among other things) L12345 (talk) 00:12, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Digital Fusion - compare that to Technological Assimilation, if it's not close enough have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:32, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Say, can I ask you something? Flamerstreak (talk) 22:28, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Would it hurt to make a power that would be called Fractal Generation? Flamerstreak (talk) 22:32, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

The power to generate fractals, usually to put on a display or use as energy attacks. Flamerstreak (talk) 22:42, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

re:Your comment in the categories for deletion.
I only meant the ones that do not have a single user. Allow me to reword and specify: any powers that obviously do not have any users anytime soon should be deleted. Yatanogarasu (talk) 23:13, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, we have the power to travel through the Internet or something like that? L12345 (talk) 02:25, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? Just wondering. Flamerstreak (talk) 02:29, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Essence Physiology - Essence Manipulation defines it bit differently than what your description says, is what you're talking about the same thing as defined in EM?

Cynicism Inducement - do we really need Inducement for every single emotion...

Collective/composite Entity Creation - related to Fusionism?

Absolute Sleep - check sleep-category if we have similar thing and thing a bit better name, we have already far too many Absolute powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:36, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

fusionism - have fun.

cynicism manipulation - since we don't already have enough of those... --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:08, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun, remember to add that as with Monetary Manipulation it includes all forms of currency/wealth. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:46, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

Uhh
To be honest, since this is a character, I need your help. How to place it to the Left of the screen? Lboys (talk) 04:23, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Correct if I'm wrong, but weren't you talking about power to put anyone to sleep and not manipulating dreams? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:35, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

And you want to make power for that and omni-sleep manipulation? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

oh,i sorry,i remembered it now,i even putted harihara there,i just don't remember if the power allow to user o recreate what they destroyed in any way or if it just allows the user to gain domain on what they destroyed after recreated it. L12345 (talk) 17:53, June 20, 2015 (UTC) go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:09, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,i want to ask something about absolute thievery,actually, do you think that if There's nothing you can't steal. this mean you can steal anything ? L12345 (talk) 11:20, June 21, 2015 (UTC)

Spatial Bow Construction - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:31, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

God of storms (and destruction) I know, but since when was he their embodiment? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:32, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Environmental Absorption - do they use it to somehow empower themselves? If they just remove that, it'd be theft or something similar. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:12, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:18, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,actually there is already a Transcendent Dragon Physiology. it is the Dragon God Physiology L12345 (talk) 19:28, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

OK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:50, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Say, do you happen to know of any users who have the ability to manipulate coins? Flamerstreak (talk) 22:23, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

In any way. Flamerstreak (talk) 22:36, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, anyway. Flamerstreak (talk) 22:43, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

oh,ok sorry,i confused it because on Dragon God Physiology Says that:User with this ability either is or can transform into a Transcended Dragon.so i think that you will need to edit it a little.and well,Dragon Gods are Transcendent Dragons too as well right? so Transcendent Dragons are only Divine Dragons,and not dragons that also gods? L12345 (talk) 23:47, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Say, when coming up with users for a made ability, is it okay if I use a character from something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Short-Change-Resonance-Saga-Book-ebook/dp/B00QALQWBE Flamerstreak (talk) 23:00, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

re:Shisui doesn't fit hypnagogia inducement.
Shisui uses the technique to hypnotize his targets, which is to say, "put it into a trance (or sleep)" while they are still awake, and feeding them suggestions. Yatanogarasu (talk) 05:22, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

Omni-Creator, I dunno... Feel free to change it back if you feel it's not right. Yatanogarasu (talk) 05:22, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

OK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:01, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

Check if Samsara Manipulation doesn't already cover that, at least it's very close to the concept. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:44, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

That'd make Reincarnation Manipulation sub-power of Samsara Manipulation, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:07, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,i want to ask a thing.i known a character that is a summoner,and she can:call on anyone.does this means she can summon anyone? i don't have sure.what do you think?

do you think so? so should i put her on Meta Summoning? i don't putted her on there yet because i don't know if ``call on anyone´´ means the same as ``summon anyone´´. does it means the same? L12345 (talk) 22:13, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:18, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Response
Thanks--CNBA3 (talk) 21:24, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Doable, go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:27, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,i know a character that is:one of the four spiritual masters of everything/all things. on what power do you think that character would fit? L12345 (talk) 22:17, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

actually is difficult to say for sure,since i'am translating it from Chinese,and every site i use to translate says sometimes completely different things.the only thing that remains the same about that character is that part i said.so well,forget about it,i will see about that another time. L12345 (talk) 22:47, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

Sure, go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:09, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, would sword master from VC fits to supernatural swordmanship? since i already explained why i think she fits? L12345 (talk) 20:14, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

ok then,i only need to think on what exactly put on her description on the gallery. and actually,if you see in a aawy,she is master of ALL sword techniques,which also would include supernatural sword techniques right? L12345 (talk) 20:33, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:55, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

oh,ok,thanks for showing it to me. L12345 (talk) 00:40, July 3, 2015 (UTC)

Monster Morphing - if you're talking about ability to morph into Variations of Mythical Bestiary, note that AM is simply collection/source of all Animal Physiologies, exactly same way as MB or Mythic Physiology are to their Variations. Your user is simply using MB as a whole.

Weapon Enhancement - usable, go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:31, July 3, 2015 (UTC)

Explosive Negation/Fusion Negation - sounds good, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:49, July 3, 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you for informing. Didn't know that yet. SDPanthera (talk) 21:16, July 3, 2015 (UTC)

Negation
I'm currently making a page simply called "Negation" for them. I'm trying to make it appear as a lesser version of Omni-Negation at the moment. Could use some help on wording it... Gabriel456 (talk) 21:55, July 3, 2015 (UTC)

Regeneration Bestowal - I hope this isn't start for (any Power) Bestowal rage... just add them to Users with mention that it's limited to regeneration. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:43, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,i want to ask,that Definition manipulation you is planning to do,is a Sub-Power of Lingustic Manipulation or something like that? L12345 (talk) 06:53, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

actually,Linguistic Manipulation allows to user to control the definitions of the words (and essentialy,of anything),for example,change the definition of the word darkness,and essentially,change what darkness is. actually is that why i asked if it is A Sub-Power of Linguistic Manipulation or related to it,or at least a application.so,what do you think? L12345 (talk) 07:05, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

Light Negation - might as well.

Definition Manipulation - if you mean that user can change the definitions of words and make the changes real, you're basically talking about Reality Warping. Not to mention that I have this nagging feeling we have something like that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:55, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

Well, give it a try. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:00, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,actually,linguistic manipulation allows you to manipulate the definitions and meanings of anything,after all, everything is defined by words right? L12345 (talk) 19:37, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

yeah,i understand that,but,let's think,what would be definitions,without words?after all,definitions are mades by words.what defines something? a conjunt of words that has an especif meaning depending of the said thing,what would mean a definition,without words?nothing,without words,definiton itself would not exist,since definition is also a word.without words,this entire wiki would be empty.that is what i'am saying,definitions are mades by words,and by manipulating words,you can manipulate definitions,and after all,like i said before,definiton is also a word.that is why i think that it would be a sub-power or at least a applications of it.so,what do you think? L12345 (talk) 20:09, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

so you agree that Definition Manipulation is A Sub-Power of Linguistic Manipulation? L12345 (talk) 20:58, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,would meaning manipulation fits as a also called for definition manipulation? L12345 (talk) 22:47, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

Bladed Shield Construction - interesting idea, but could I tempt you with and idea of Weapon Constructs?

Quick Casting - wouldn't that be Enhanced Speed limited to certain type of action?

Unrestricted Movement - Something like Freedom of Movement spell? Go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:44, July 5, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,i want to ask to you about that absolute athleticism you is planning to do.i think i known a user,is athlete from VC,she is the top athlete of World of the God's. what clearly give to her Godlike athletic skills. so,she would fit to it? L12345 (talk) 01:55, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

I did kind of leave a comment on you newest power page, but unless I didn't give you enough time, I didn't get an answer. So, does Unrestricted Movement allow for unlimited speed? Flamerstreak (talk) 02:41, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

So it may not grant unlimited speed? Flamerstreak (talk) 02:46, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

By the way, does Unrestricted Movement allow Flight as well? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:26, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:47, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

So basically, it doesn't really grant flight, just the two abilities you mentioned? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:58, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Okay then. Thanks. Flamerstreak (talk) 04:13, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

More like specific limitation of life creation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:52, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

I don't see why not, go ahead. I'm surprised it's not already made, tbh. Gabriel456 (talk) 22:32, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

I have another question if you don't mind, how does Unrestricted Movement (and Flowmotion) allow one to do Aerobatics without flight? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:33, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Okay. I got it. By the way, what do you think of that Insult Attack power I created earlier? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:42, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Why thank you! Flamerstreak (talk) 23:44, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, but do we have powers that deal with normal communication? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:01, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,well,i don't think that Definition manipulation should be a sub-power of meta power manipulation,of course,it would fits as a application,to manipulate the definitions of all superpowers,but i don't it is a sub-power of it,because there is things that are not powers,for example,reality itself is not a power,only Reality Warping/Manipulation is.and since meta power manipulation itself is about manipulate any POWER,and of course,their definitions,but not the definitions of anything,since not anything is a power.,it's because that that i don't think it would be a sub-power of it. L12345 (talk) 20:04, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

yeah,i understand that (actually is that why i think that penemue is one of the most powerful beings in VC (even though she don't appears to be)) but i still don't understand why a sub-power of meta power manipulation,because meta power is only applicable to powers itself,not anything.what technically means to me that:Meta Power is about any powers,while Definitions manipulation is about anything,not only powers.and also,i don't think that is valid use the fact this is superpower wiki to say that its a sub-power of it,only because all powers on the wiki has definitions,thinking by that away,it appears more to me that meta power is an application of definition manipulation than the oppositive. (oh,and by the away,when you is planning to do the absolute athleticism?) L12345 (talk) 20:33, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

okay then. L12345 (talk) 20:39, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

sounds good to me Gabriel456 (talk) 21:46, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

So, about the "unlimited speed" thing I asked about for Unrestricted Movement, did Kuopiofi get back to you and say anything about that? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:17, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Psionic Empowerment - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

Just curious; what edit did you make on my latest page? Flamerstreak (talk) 02:58, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

Okay then. Flamerstreak (talk) 03:03, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:29, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

Have infinite fun with that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:00, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

Personal Space - same way as the personal variation of gravity manipulation? Have fun.

Absolute Athleticism - try Supernatural one first.

Battlefield Transformation - you mean Environmental Manipulation limited to battle-field?

Weapon Negation - interesting idea, but pretty specific. Have you considered Object Negation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:32, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Really? Just goes to show this site has grown so large even Admins start forgetting what we have here...

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:59, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,can you explain what that absolute accuracy you is planning to do is? it would be like always hits the target or something like that? L12345 (talk) 01:14, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

well,so i think i have at least two valid users for it,since the two:Never misses/Always hits their targets.so,they would fit to it? L12345 (talk) 01:24, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

ok then,and well,when you is planning to do it? L12345 (talk) 01:31, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,can you talk about that absolute archery you is planning to do? and also,would artemis count for it? L12345 (talk) 21:22, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

well,and what about saggitarius from VC? she is goddess of bow (what by itself i think that is already enough to have godlike archery skills) and her arrows can pierce anything (actually she is the main image of absolute piercing) even entire galaxies at once. so,do you think she would fit? L12345 (talk) 21:37, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

ok then,so i will await you create the page to put she on there,and also,what do you think i should put on her image description? something like:As the archer goddess of bow,has godlike skills with a bow and arrow. or something like that? L12345 (talk) 22:26, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

I figured. Thanks for the heads up. You know the names of the other two? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:54, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Okay then. Say, what if I made something like Unburdened Movement, a sub-power of Enhanced Strength and Unrestricted Movement that allows one to move around and even do hard movements like acrobatics without being affected by heavy weight (such as lifting a very heavy object, but still able to do jumps and backflips with it)? Flamerstreak (talk) 00:04, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Guess I'll do it, then. Would Donkey Kong fromt the Super Smash Bros. series be a user of this power, since he can lift crates and barrels and jump while the others are slowed down lifting such things? Flamerstreak (talk) 00:10, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

What about the Spartans from the Halo series? I heard at least some of them could do acrobatics despite the fact that their armor is heavy. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:45, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? Flamerstreak (talk) 01:22, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Gotcha. Also, sorry about that. Flamerstreak (talk) 01:25, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Anti-Energy Physiology - tricky but doable.

Monster Imitation - aside of Animals, all other Physiologies include mimicry and physiology in the same page. Don't ask me why Animal Morphing and Animal Imitation are different pages, they were here before I found the place...

Absolute Accuracy - have fun.

Supernatural/Absolute archery - preferably no, if we start with one weapon, there'll be pages for every one of those... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:30, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

I know the difference, I was one of those who defined the difference when it came up. What I said that aside of Animal Morphing and Physiology they are combined into single page. There's no need for separate page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:18, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

go ahead Gabriel456 (talk) 13:36, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,do you have any ideia of what would be the power to embody something of someone? for example,embody the spirit of someone,or embody the power of someone.? L12345 (talk) 20:11, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Electricity/Lightning Augmentation - start with Elemental and Energy Augmentations.

Negation Breath - really... fine, go on.

Natural Energy Empowerment - go on.

Light bomb generation - check Elemental Bomb Generation and go on.

Temporal/Time Vortex Creation - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:33, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

Property Transference - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:42, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

Didn't mean to
I was only altering the picture to a more fitting one. The site screwed up and removed the entire thing. Again, didn't mean to.SDPanthera (talk) 21:47, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Anyways, I looked it up and I couldn't find a gif picture of Dialga. There are only four pictures of him and none of them are firing the beam. SDPanthera (talk) 21:55, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Interesting. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:58, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

is there
A power in where the user absorbs magical energy from the shadows? (and btw you should archive your talk page). 02:09, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

I'll create it later, then. Do you want me to archive your talk page since it's freakishly giant? 02:29, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

That's why I'm asking you first. It's not against the rules if you allow. But you really should do that yourself then, it gets messy with hundreds of messages at once. 02:34, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

I think I need bit more details than that from both. Expand please. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, July 19, 2015 (UTC)

About your edit in my Enhanced Sliding page, how do Lamy and Sugarboy use the power? Flamerstreak (talk) 00:09, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,would the goddess dike fits to the judgement manipulation you is planning to do? she is goddess of justice and judgement. L12345 (talk) 00:12, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

ok. L12345 (talk) 00:16, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I get it now. Thanks. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:20, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

By the way, what exactly would your "Judgement Manipulation" power do? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:11, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

So, what would happen if the person affected tries to deny what the user decided and go against it? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:21, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

So they'll never do what the user doesn't want them to do? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:25, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Okay then. I get it.

two things,first to ensure you that dike fits as user of it,she is:The goddess/personification of justice, order and judgement and one of the Horae. She is a daughter of Zeus and Themis.and also a question about judgement manipulation,it would be a application of justice manipulation,order manipulation or law manipulation? L12345 (talk) 03:41, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:34, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

1.Adaptation Assimilation - usable, go for it.

2.Supernatural Lung Capacity - what'd be the difference to Enhanced Lung Capacity? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:42, July 20, 2015 (UTC)

Ice-Darkness Manipulation - really really getting fed up with these combination elements...

Weapon Assimilation - like merging the weapon into user and being able to use it's abilities as they were users own? forming blades from/along any part of body, shooting bullets from fingers/mouth, like that? Sounds interesting. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:10, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, but I have this niggling feeling we have something similar... might want to check Kinetic Energy Manipulation and Motion Manipulation just in case.

If there isn't, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:20, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:26, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Because the limit that was there could apply to any manipulation power and wasn't unique to Grid Manipulation.

That is all really. Death horseman94 (talk) 21:16, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Well in that case, re-add it then. I havent seen this limit on any other page yet and thats why it seems outta place.

Death horseman94 (talk) 22:05, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Can you help me out with finding a user for this power idea I had in mind? Flamerstreak (talk) 22:41, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

It's called Indirect Strike. It is kind of a strange power. Basically, it works like this: when the user punches or kicks someone in a certain area of the body/object, such as the torso, head or leg, instead of actually hitting that area, the impact is "teleported" and the impact from the punch or kick will hit another part of the person or object. So hitting one in the torso would have the impact strike the head or foot instead. Can you help me out here? Flamerstreak (talk) 22:46, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Okay then. Will do. Flamerstreak (talk) 22:52, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Yo, what do you think of my new "Trap Manipulation" power? Flamerstreak (talk) 00:39, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

That's acceptible, then. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:42, July 22, 2015 (UTC)

I think that CM has short mention of Mud, if you go ahead, check and remove those. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:26, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

reply
Thank you for pointing out those article, I just can't find them with those names. HIJMS Yamashiro (talk) 06:58, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

Light Element
Light has always been considered a element in nearly every fiction. There is no difference between a element or energy seeing there's Elemental Energy Manipulation. A "element" can be solid, liquid, energy, or even a form of gas. Also Darkness is considered a "element", so if Darkness can be a "element", so can Light. Its even mentioned in several other pages, not only just in "Light Manipulation". SDPanthera (talk) 14:38, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

Bit too specific. It'd be like adding new creature creation for every power we have here. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:58, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, Light is element and energy. There's lengthy explanation for why, but I cave it long time ago and honestly can't remember anymore, but on this site light as well as darkness are considered elements. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:03, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

Alex Trebek from Family Guy is explicitely a "parody of the imp-like villain Mister Mxyzptlk from DC Comics' Superman", which brings us back to the DC only superpower. DYBAD (talk) 22:37, July 24, 2015 (UTC)

sounds good to me Gabriel456 (talk) 01:36, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Bit too specific, we did remove Obsidian Manipulation for just that reason. Just add them to Magma Manipulation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:35, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Would you happen to know a user for a "Stamina Mode" power (which involves lasting so long tirelessly without food, water, sleep, air, etc.)? Flamerstreak (talk) 22:16, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

That will do. Thanks. Flamerstreak (talk) 22:24, July 25, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:27, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Might have some overlap with Madness Manipulation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:35, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

I sent him a message, let's hope it sticks...

otherwise, it's best to ignore him, though it's a good idea to warn me or Kuo if he tries to put a real life example in users Gabriel456 (talk) 22:59, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 01:28, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:31, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:25, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

I hope I am not bothering you with this, but what do you think of my "Tight Space Maneuvering" power page? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:10, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

What kind of work? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:22, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

Post-Mortem Shapeshifting - Variation/Association of Post-Mortem Power Absorption maybe? Have fun.

Magical Blade Construction - go on.

Grass Mimicry - way too specific... add as User to Plant Mimicry and add mention that it's limited to grass.

Ability Capturing - interesting, go on.

Facial Shifting - sounds more like Limitation for MA really. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:56, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

Sure, go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:25, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

I was asking if anyone created such a page, not for a user. But thanks anyway. Flamerstreak (talk) 23:39, July 30, 2015 (UTC)

oh,ok then,thanks for saying, i don't have see that it had demonic fire manipulation on it's also called. L12345 (talk) 04:48, August 1, 2015 (UTC)

Stellar Aura - have fun with SA, but I think that DSA is too similar. Maybe you should just add the User of Dark Stellar Aura into SA Users and mention they use DSA. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:18, August 1, 2015 (UTC)

Hey
Hey SageM, Would you like to be admin or moderator on my wikia? Its called Brawlers House wikia. http://brawlers-house.wikia.com/wiki/Brawlers_House_Wikia. Basically this wikia is, you can create your own Character, like a Character sheet, and add them to this wikia, to the tournament and put them against other characters. Follow the tournament rules. Let me know on the chat or my Talk Page. Thanks Sega (talk) (talk) 07:30, August 1, 2015 (UTC)

Alright! Respect!Sega (talk) (talk) 07:39, August 1, 2015 (UTC)

oh,ok then,tahnks by showing, but i still think that a power like Weapon Wing Manifestation still don't exist right? L12345 (talk) 01:11, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

Undead Monster Physiology - have fun, remember to add it to Monster Physiology too. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:00, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

Look do these pictures for http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=+&fulltext=Search&ns6=1. They are too tricky find when images have no tags and their titles are too messy.

Would it hurt if I were to make something called "Disaster Inducement", the power to make things that are going so well, go wrong? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:10, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

Will do, then. Flamerstreak (talk) 23:16, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

I just saw the two power proposals you made. Out of curiousity, how would Stellar Ring Creation create discs along with rings and hoops? I mean, what kind of disc are you talking about? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:28, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I get it now. Thanks for the explaination. Flamerstreak (talk) 03:38, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Creation Energy Manipulation - essentially Creation with different name.

Stellar Ring Creation - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:31, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

no, actually is different,the book knowns all (as it's very name says). not just all recorded material. L12345 (talk) 05:23, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

So, what do you think of my Isoportation power? Flamerstreak (talk) 00:27, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

I am glad you think so, then. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:33, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Gravitational Acceleration - covered by Attraction & Repulsion, tho we could use either of those separately.

Attack Expansion - have fun, but remember to add that into all Attack Powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:35, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Well, what's the only power that can kill the user. Convince me. ToxicHolyGrenade (talk) 17:32, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

And besides, your not an admin. ToxicHolyGrenade (talk) 17:36, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

OK. ToxicHolyGrenade (talk) 17:41, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

OK. ToxicHolyGrenade (talk) 17:42, August 7, 2015 (UTC)

Absolute Regeneration
I. Does Conceptual Attacks remove the power or does it disable the regeneration effects?

II. Well, The Purification Ball, used by Gogeta, kills Janemba, so what's the whole big deal of it not being a weakness?

Status Lock - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:37, August 8, 2015 (UTC)

Monetary Transmutation - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:27, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

go for it. Gabriel456 (talk) 14:09, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Forced Regeneration - you mean forcing already existing regeneration into high gear or speeding up normal healing? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:18, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:24, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:27, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Absolute Wish
Can you give me prove of Bluebird's and Higher Authority's abilities?The Omnipotent One (talk) 18:01, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, when I said "prove" I meant something like "scan" "video" or some other evidence. But alright. Thanks.The Omnipotent One (talk) 18:35, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 18:56, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Though I appreciate you letting me know, I would say that that power is just pushing one's concentration to the limit. A power like Enhanced Concentration would go far past that limit. Flamerstreak (talk) 02:06, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. Do we have something like Elemental augmentation Field? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:34, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:40, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:57, August 12, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it.

Also, if he isn't among them, I think Lucifer from Supernatural would count as a user. He did speak through a nurse to Azazel, while inside the cage in the flashback scene in Season Four's finale Gabriel456 (talk) 20:36, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

on what pages, exactly? all I see in the wiki activity is adding on to usersGabriel456 (talk) 21:25, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:27, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,is energy considered as an element? L12345 (talk) 23:01, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

Living Mouthpiece - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:35, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

Damage Reversal - go for it.

Cancer Mimicry - connected to Disease Mimicry somehow? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:52, August 14, 2015 (UTC)

Go for them all Gabriel456 (talk) 15:24, August 16, 2015 (UTC)

Conceptual Fire Manipulation - might want to go with Conceptual Element Manipulation for starters and only after that make the Variations of that power.

Weighted Attacks - while interesting idea, it sounds bit limited. Any ideas how to expand the theme a bit? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:58, August 16, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:15, August 16, 2015 (UTC)

the addition could work. He did say expand the theme a bit, after all Gabriel456 (talk) 21:43, August 16, 2015 (UTC)

Weighted Attacks - have fun.

Summon/Summoning Power Bestowal - maybe Summon Enhancement? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:25, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:29, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:14, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Hello there. What do you think of my latest power? Flamerstreak (talk) 21:39, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Why thanks! Flamerstreak (talk) 21:41, August 18, 2015 (UTC)

Then that means...
Then that means Sly and Donquixote don't fit into that power because both can be detected once they stop moving and they can also be heard. Truth 23:17, August 18, 2015 (UTC) Truth™

I'm sorry, i didn't know because i saw Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris listed. You can block me if you wish.--TakeshiWatanabe (talk) 01:40, August 19, 2015 (UTC)Takeshi

I'm sorry, i didn't know because i saw Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris listed. You can block me if you wish.--TakeshiWatanabe (talk) 01:41, August 19, 2015 (UTC)Takeshi

Severed Limb Manipulation - Buggy from One Piece? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:49, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

Undead Dragon Manipulation - way too specific.

Undead Dragon Physiology - we already have Skeleton Dragon Physiology, so why not.

Knowledge Erasure - have fun.

Hand Generation/Manifestation - I think Multiple Arms covers this.

Combination Form - some connection to Mode Switching?

Immunity Field Projection - doable.

Insect Generation - Variation of Animal Creation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:41, August 19, 2015 (UTC)

I think that would be Life-Force Entity Creation, which we seem to be lacking. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:16, August 20, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:17, August 20, 2015 (UTC)

Gravity Tunneling - wouldn't you get the same effect by adding Gravity Manipulation into Wormhole Creations Associations and mention that it can be used for the same effect? --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:46, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

I'm surprised we don't have it already. Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:48, August 21, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a user for that Transition Manipulation you is planning to do, Janus, the roman God of beginnings, transitions, gates, doorways, etc. L12345 (talk) 01:01, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Shield Mimicry - going with the pattern, that'd be Shield Physiology. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:01, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Not sure - details?

Antrophilia - again? Looks like we have to give bit longer block. Those go for years... --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:44, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

double-edged power - might be simplest to add it to Double-Edged Power as Limitation.

Nameless Existence - might want to expand the idea to immunity to all name based powers, with being nameless being one of the Variations. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:24, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Both sound good to me. Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:37, August 22, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe broaden that idea somehow, sounds pretty damn specific to me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:14, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

That could work, with limitation that it may also give you the problems/limitations of that life. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:24, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

Sure. Gabriel456 (talk) 21:07, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

If there's enough differences, go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:50, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

Quick question. Do you think that Dick Roman would count as a user for Alpha Physiology, to the Leviathans? IIRC, he was the strongest of their species, superior to the rest. Gabriel456 (talk) 21:56, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks! Gabriel456 (talk) 21:59, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, do you know what power would be the power to be able to eat others? is because i know a character that is: the man-eating demon. L12345 (talk) 00:41, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry. ToxicHolyGrenade (talk) 09:03, August 24, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i known a character that: cannot be/is impossible to be explained by common sense.. what power it would be? L12345 (talk) 00:35, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

ok then, thanks L12345 (talk) 00:39, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 01:12, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

That race from Star Wars, is it the Shawda Ubb? Flamerstreak (talk) 01:51, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Was it a sentinent race? Flamerstreak (talk) 02:21, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Elemental Punch - covered by various Infusions.

Transition Manipulation - not Transmutation Manipulation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:26, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

What is this Transition Manipulation power of yours supposed to do? Flamerstreak (talk) 05:48, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, actually. Just wanted to make sure what transitions you were talking about. Flamerstreak (talk) 15:07, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Ko Kibi
So, can you give me evidence of her Absolute Existence power?

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:47, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

Very interesting... Sure, I think it's enough. But I still have one question. Why they never trip over or slip out of their shoes, when many (possibly all, I don't know) characters have so disproportionately large shoes?The Omnipotent One (talk) 20:16, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

L12345's stuff
hey sage. do you have any idea of what power would be the power to give power through words? is because i know a character that the words can:store energy and give power. L12345 (talk) 22:02, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

oh,so should i make a kind of Word Power Bestowal or something like that? and also, and the power to store energy, what power it would be? L12345 (talk) 22:11, August 25, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:45, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Something like voodoo practitioners being "horse" for the loa? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:54, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

Transformation Absorption - that's pretty specific thing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 03:32, August 28, 2015 (UTC)

So basically flipping between Absolute Attack and Absolute Defense at will. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:04, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:49, August 29, 2015 (UTC)

Ability/Power focus - I think we have something like that already... I won't swear it, but I have vague feeling that way. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:52, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

re: Arm Transformation
I was planning on adding a page titled Metamorphic Arm for stuff like that, but then I noticed Arm Transformation. Smijes08 (talk) 19:57, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

I really don't know if we have a power that already does that. (Then again, we do have over 6,000 pages...) My advice? make the page and we'll deal with it if we ever do find that other page Gabriel456 (talk) 20:01, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

Both sound interesting, Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:27, August 30, 2015 (UTC)

So if I cannot change the in picture in my own page then the page becomes boring looking at the same picture of that page over and over again.is that a rule or something or you just made up.

Figure out better name and have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 03:28, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Flow/Fluidic Physiology - you mean technique of Flow Manipulation, and quite a bit more than mere liquid/gas mimicries. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:50, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:07, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:23, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

You will be granted with power to express your mind
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:SegatishScold/Cloaked_Legends_4-_Maybe_Some_Developers_thought_of_Powers_like_these.

Just Read and follow the directions.

hey sage, that Physical Law Manipulation you is planning to do is would be a Sub-Power of Law Manipulation right? L12345 (talk) 21:21, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i think i have a user for that Temperature Immunity you is planning to do, Kelvin from VC, she is not affected by/immune to virtually any temperature,not even by absolute temperatures, such as the absolute zero. she would fit to the power? L12345 (talk) 21:40, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 22:14, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Go for both :) Gabriel456 (talk) 22:32, September 5, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:06, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

Hello there
When are you going to do the Physical Law Manipulation power? Just curious. Flamerstreak (talk) 17:04, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

all sound good to me. Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:15, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i think i know a user for that Meta Crafting you is Planning to do, Tatara from VC, she is the Saint of Smithing, as such, she would be the embodiment of smithing/craft, and obviously has absolute/divine/godlike smithing skills, do you think would she counts? L12345 (talk) 23:19, September 6, 2015 (UTC)

oh, ok then, thanks. and also, what do you think i should put on her gallery description? something like: as the saint of smithing, can forge anything. or something like that? L12345 (talk) 00:25, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Question
Do you know of a user who can make people run in place without actually moving anywhere? Flamerstreak (talk) 20:24, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

I see, though it is more of an immobilization thing. I heard that with no friction, people would just simply run in place, so could users of Friction Manipulation be good users of such a power? Flamerstreak (talk) 20:41, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Well, would it? Flamerstreak (talk) 21:00, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

Well, what about
Well, what about Sonic from Sonic the Hedgehog if this is being used on oneself? He does have the super peel out move, and he does use it in Sonic CD and Sonic Lost World. Flamerstreak (talk) 21:21, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:48, September 7, 2015 (UTC)

AsI have asked before...
Does Bodily Rotation Manipulation alter others' rotations? Flamerstreak (talk) 00:53, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, if you say so. Flamerstreak (talk) 01:00, September 8, 2015 (UTC)

Personally I think that these combination physiologies have been getting bit out of hand lately. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:29, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

Interesting idea, might want to use Hollow Physiology with Empty in Also Called. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:25, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, do that Hollow Physiology that you is planning to do has any relation with Nothingness Physiology? L12345 (talk) 19:59, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, what power do you think that would be the power to be able to decide the weather, Weather Manipulation of Weather Generation? L12345 (talk) 20:36, September 9, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i think i know a user for Hollow Physiology,but i don't have sure, that character is a Automaton that only exists to follow her master orders, and don't have things such as heart or soul. and as a Automaton, she don't have things such as organs, bones, etc. L12345 (talk) 00:36, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

well, that part i understood, but they outside are still made of something right? so, that character i talked would fit more to Defunct Physiology than Hollow Physiology? because, well, she technically has no organs, bones, muscles, tissues etc.the only thing i think she would have is matter, since she is made of iron. L12345 (talk) 00:54, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

so can i add her to Hollow Physiology? L12345 (talk) 00:58, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Say, what do you think of my new power page? Flamerstreak (talk) 21:48, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Glad you think so. Flamerstreak (talk) 21:54, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Death Negation
Death negation negate any and maybe all kinds of death even the deaths caused by natural causes, so that limitation doesn't count I'm sorry Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

Soul Diving sounds like something we may have, so check it, but otherwise have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:51, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:07, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good to me Gabriel456 (talk) 23:10, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Technology Stopping Edit
Technology Stopping Edit

Your comment: it only prevents modern technology from working, medieval technology still works.

From the Page

Limitations:
 * May only affect certain technology.

I think that it qualifies under that limitation.

Silent Psycho Gamer (talk) 03:08, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds bit like Property Transference. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Interesting, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:48, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:16, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it. I'm actually surprised we didn't have that already Gabriel456 (talk) 21:47, September 14, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, do you have any idea of what someone that is able to absorb the essence of others would be able to do with that? L12345 (talk) 06:29, September 15, 2015 (UTC)

Including Cosmic Weather Manipulation, I suppose? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:50, September 16, 2015 (UTC)

Would true names have more powerful/different effects? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:19, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:04, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:57, September 17, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, just to say, i have a user for that Magic Lordship you is planning to do. L12345 (talk) 00:55, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

1. go for it.

2. couldn't that already be covered by Omni-Magic? It seems putting "may have limited control over all types of magic" would do the same thing, especially if that's the only difference Gabriel456 (talk) 01:13, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Isn't that basically Nigh Omniscience/Omniscience? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:22, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:26, September 19, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 14:27, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Omni-Verse
It cannot change, because it is NOT fact.

Omni-Verse user has to have power over ALL verses. Taiji has power over nothing more than Mecha manga. No Marvel and so. So, he's not the user.

Btw. Can you send me some page about him? I cannot find any info about Taiji. Thank you.The Omnipotent One (talk) 19:17, September 20, 2015 (UTC)

Well, he won't fit unless he will exist in ALL Verses of fictions. That's definition of superpower. Sorry.The Omnipotent One (talk) 12:12, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i was thinking on a power like God Aspect Manifestation, the power to embody aspects of god, such as power, love, evil, good, etc. or something like that, but i have no ideia of who start it, do you have any suggestion? L12345 (talk) 02:57, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

well, i also know some users, one embodies god's infinite power (his Omnipotence essentially) love and also his caraketer, and other that embodies his Spirit, other that is his ``poison´´. but the problem is that i don't actually know who make the page, like who the page should be like. do you have any?. L12345 (talk) 03:09, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Might want to ask/report Community Central. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:44, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 18:15, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:40, September 21, 2015 (UTC)

The Eyes of Kid Midas
Dude, why do you keep saying it is only a reality warping tool? It can do almost any thing except UNDO what it has done. Plus, it is stated that 'The glasses have power over everything but itself,' I mean with so much proof I have to question whether you actually read the book, or just got it from T.V tropes. AND there was the time were Kevin temporarily FUSED with the Shades (An almighty object.) at that point anything he imagined became real (Subjective Reality/Imagination Manifestation). Also you are forgetting about The Dream Time scene where Kevin (The Dreamer) Became the Gateway (Falls under the category of Reality Dreaming). So am I crazy or wrong? Plz reply at my page.(P.S Forgot to mention the glasses need energy to work, also if Kevin and Hal couldn't command anything why is Xenovia via; Excalibur there? Technically SHE couldn't use the ability without it. No offence I know she is from your favorite series, just asking. And another thing after I made a mistake about Bluenote Stinger I has this crazy suspicion you are constantly shooting me down. Is it any thing personal? Have I offended you? If so I apologize. --DemiurgeArt2

Atmospheric Freezing - as in turning it to ice or simply extremely cold? Or both? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:26, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:45, September 22, 2015 (UTC)

Gender Swapping is real
The ability to change gender naturally is a 'real' power, while humans aren't capable of this, outside of certain surgeries and the like, there are various animals that can do so; certain fish, frogs, reptiles, etc.

Fox Boss (talk) 00:23, September 25, 2015 (UTC)

go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 02:11, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Mikey's Power
Can You explain something to me? Michael is put on Omnificence because he can create any thing but what does it mean he can't SHAPE his creations. Reply at my page.

Building Block of Existence
Yeah. I know every source has told me 'he can't shape it,' but can you please give me a SOLID example?

Interesting. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:38, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Micheal's Creations
So theoretically, he can create a dog, a living thing, but can't manipulate it? (Bend it's free will of make it something else entirely?) But isn't there a work around? Michael's power is said to be the building block of existence, even concepts like magic, it is also said he could DESTROY with this power. What I am implying is that he could destroy an idea of it's own (Like a Man is his buddy) and create another one in its place (The Man is now his enemy) Omnificence is stated to create anything, i'm pretty sure ideas is not an exception. (Also what gives He can manipulate the Primordial Force but not anything else? That's BS right there.)

go for all of them Gabriel456 (talk) 22:38, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Emotion Transferal - go for it.

Ability/Power Locking - expand it to allow selective locking of powers, so user could lock away/allow only certain powers.

Gravity Lock - as you describe, that sounds more like preventing the objects from leaving the surface they're on/being stuck on it instead of anything to do with gravity. If you went to not being affected by gravity, they'd be in zero-gravity. What you describe sounds more like motion manipulation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:09, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:40, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

I just thought the pilots of the Great Octoweapons and DJ Octavio counted because, as they take damage, they can make it more difficult for Agent 3 to harm them. Does that not count? --Bravebravesirbrian (talk) 22:42, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, what do you mean with ``oneself would be mindshifting´´? L12345 (talk) 02:49, September 29, 2015 (UTC)

well, but there is a character (Persona) that can change her own personality through masks, she cannot change the personality of others through masks, just her own personality, so it would be a kind of Self-Personality Alteration. and i don't see how alter your own personality would be Mindshifting, since it is about have absolute control over your own mind, not just your personality. L12345 (talk) 02:58, September 29, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds like limited Power Absorption. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:48, September 29, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:59, September 29, 2015 (UTC)

Spyke can increase the amount of slots for Sub abilities a piece of gear can have. What power do you think that is? It's not Rarity Manipulation, which I thought it was before.

--Bravebravesirbrian (talk) 01:38, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

Future Removal - interesting, have fun.

Resurrection Transformation - I think Resurrection Bless covers most of that.

Self-Reincarnation - Time Lords? Bit too specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:23, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

In other words. house is rebuild and resident changes. Considering that resurrection is about User getting reincarnated, that's more like swapping to someone who's dead than anything else. In other words, the power is on the soul who inhabits the body afterwards not in the body. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:00, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 17:21, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:01, September 30, 2015 (UTC)

OK then, one last question I thought of this evening. The Ravenous Octomaw has mechanical regeneration. Whenever it gets its teeth broken, it can replace them with another. However, each new set of teeth is stronger than the last (much like a shark, which its design is based on). Does that count as Adaptive Regeneration, Regenerative Empowerment, or Reactive Adaptation, or any combination of those three?

--Bravebravesirbrian (talk) 01:21, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Beast morphing
You're welcome ;) Sifsand (talk) 06:25, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:23, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks for letting me know. But, it's wouldn't be Weapon Proficiency becuase that's every type of weapon. He's only demonstrated knowledge of all weapons in Splatoon, and so that would mean he only has proficiency with: I'll add him to those instead. Thanks again.
 * Ranged Weapons
 * Artillery
 * Guns
 * Explosives
 * Improbable Weapons
 * Artisitic Weapons

--Bravebravesirbrian (talk) 21:10, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

OK. Should I go ahead and delete the examples and pictures on all the other pages I added then since I added Inklings, Agent 3, the Octolings, and DJ Octavio to Weapon Proficiency as well?

--Bravebravesirbrian (talk) 21:39, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Dragon Lancer
How is it fanmade? Dragon Lancer was uploaded to Quangdong - Alpha Animation's official youtube channel Lookus - Alpha Animation. Again, how is it fanmade? --RiderJones (talk) 00:36, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Alpha Animation is a toy and animation company. Seriously, please define "fanmade" for me if that is what you think "Dragon Lancer" is. Seriously, where is your source that says it's fanmade? --RiderJones (talk) 00:51, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Seriously, all the reasons you have made only makes your definition of "fanmade" being flawed and unreliable. Just because there is no information on it, nowhere else to watch it, nor any credits, doesn't mean it's fanmade; it just means that its unpopular and not many people actually watch it or not many people actually bother watching it because most of the time, when it comes to something Asian and on the internet; people are more interested in seeing Tokusatsu and Japanese Animation than anything else. Even if it were as you say, given how it has no information around it; Dragon Lancer would still be considered an official product since it is not based on any pre-existing product, thus any claims of it being "fanmade" would still be considered redundant nonetheless. You also failed to provide proof that it is indeed "fanmade" except through your own ignorantly biased opinions about what you belief and not actual facts. Whether you think it's fanon or not, the character in question is still a user of Unnatural Size and should be treated as such without issue because it is still part of a published canon source. By undoing my edit, you also pretty much broke a wiki rule by editing about how you see it. Enough said. --RiderJones (talk) 01:57, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

"I'm not editing how I see it" Yes you ARE. Because of the lack of information that you seem to be incapable of finding, you simply created an opinion of how you see "Dragon Lancer" as. Further more, because of how YOU see it: you are the one decides what goes or not goes despite of 1. Not being an admin 2. There is no rule where "lack of information" is a deciding factor in adding users and 3. There is no rule that states "Youtube videos aren't solid information". You have just perfectly defined on how YOU see it. --RiderJones (talk) 02:23, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

I am officially done adding Splatoon examples. There is nothing left for me to add. Thanks for all the support, and goodnight!

--Bravebravesirbrian (talk) 02:04, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, your definition of "fanmade" is indeed flawed and unreliable. --RiderJones (talk) 02:55, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Seriously? You said you saw the video but, clearly, you didn't see the intro where the others were shown. Also, within the episode, you'll see other "human-looking" people that share the same size and scene with Guilty Good. This would be a obviously huge indication that Guilty Good and Dragon's race are of that size.

Even though, you contradicted your point when saying "Unnatural size would me that all his kind are like that, or that he is different from his kind in size." So, even if he was an anomaly within his species, he would still be considered a user by that logic. --RiderJones (talk) 03:01, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

You didn't even bother to acknowledge your contradiction. First you make a claim about it being "fanmade" now your making excuses; it still all comes down to how you see it in relation to this subject. --RiderJones (talk) 03:27, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for helping out on the Giant Ball Projection page. I really appreciate it. Smijes08 (talk) 03:41, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

I'd say that single video isn't enough. If there's nothing else, that isn't allowed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, October 2, 2015 (UTC)

Please provide proof that the Photonic Birds fit in Meta Matter Manipulation. EvilMegaCookie (talk) 01:09, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Gee. Might be a good idea to put *SPOILER* in your message next time perhaps? And I was asking for quotes, not claims. Please provide proof that they can manipulate matter on a metaphysical and spiritual level. Because judging by your description it sounds more like they manipulate matter on a universal scale.

I am not going to say that TVTropes is right about everything, but since I looked them up on the Abusing the Kardashev Scale For Fun and Profit page, it only mentioned the manipulation of dark matter.

So... YEAH. Quotes would be nice.

Multitude of Questions to Ask
1. Can you explain to me just what the Hadou and Gudou Gods and their abilites? (I have to research them but to no avail.)                                                                                                                                                     2. Just how powerful are the The First Guardians, Lord English, John Egbert (At His most powerful), Jack Noir, and The Maillady? (forgot her name is Jack's equal.)                                                                                      3. Can you explain why the Endless are Nigh-Omnipotent and why they defy Logic? 4. Explain why The Chaos Gods are users of Subjective Reality and some of their feats using this power. (P.S Accidentally deleted them, sry)                                                                                                                   5. How powerful can users of Yin-Yang manipulation be? (Don't copy stuff from this wiki explain in your own words.)                                                                                                                                                     Well that's all for now please reply at my page when you get the chance (Tried to make a list. I'm bad at this  stuff.)  -- DemiurgeArt2

The Question
I will find some one else, thanks.

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:24, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Well At Least....
Could you explain how powerful Philemon and His counterpart are? Why are they Reality warpers?

Bit late, bit busy, but fixed. Now how did I make a mistake like that? Of course I never made Accelerated Healing. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:25, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, im a away, the Eternal Rest Inducement would be a kind of Eternal Sleep? L12345 (talk) 00:41, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, do you know any character that embody opposites? it's because i'am planning to do a Opposites Embodiment page. L12345 (talk) 00:52, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

ok then. L12345 (talk) 00:58, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, it's me again! Quick question. Do crustaceans have Boneless Body? They do have exoskeletons, but those aren't made of bone so, would they count? Just asking. Thanks.

--Bravebravesirbrian (talk) 14:24, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Castiel in Universal Lordship
Do you think Castiel would count as a user for Universal Lordship? When he was empowered by the souls of Purgatory, Bobby mentioned, while talking to Crowley, that Castiel was "running the universe".

Wanted to hear your opinion though Gabriel456 (talk) 17:28, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it. Also, did you see my previous message? Gabriel456 (talk) 20:48, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Well? What do you think? Would Godstiel count as a user, or should that sentence not be taken seriously? Gabriel456 (talk) 21:07, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Alright then. Gabriel456 (talk) 21:16, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:21, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:56, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Pardon the pun, bit that's bit too specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:38, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 18:47, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Sage ! Check the Living Anomaly page, I believe it essentially covers the description. 21:11, October 5, 2015 (UTC)DYBAD (talk)

Noted that this morning (here), wikia started to work pretty soon after I that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:04, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:39, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:50, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds like a new sub-power of Separation and Boundary Manipulation to me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:21, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

how exactly is that different from Destruction? I mean, the page itself has your title in the also called Gabriel456 (talk) 17:05, October 7, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:08, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:42, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 19:24, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Dang.
You edit faster than anybody i've ever seen.

Make that sense and you go for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:37, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Memory Overwrite
Would Matt Parkman of Heroes count as a user of Memory Overwrite? By altering Sylar's mind and memories to make him believe he was Nathan? Gabriel456 (talk) 22:50, October 12, 2015 (UTC)

Don't we have that already? It had that Sound Four twin-freak as a pic... --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:08, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i think i have users for that Divided Body you is planning to do, Amphis and Baena from valkyrie crusade, they are two dragon maiden twins who share the same body, but they are completely different persons. do they fit to the power? L12345 (talk) 20:03, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Well, give it a go. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:14, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

The Endless
Please, I am begging you to answer this question can you explain some of their feats (particularly Reality Warping?). I just need to know why they are so powerful. I have read almost all of their issues and I am at a dead end. They almost never exert themselfs and they do next to nothing except talk and show up. So please you are one of the last people I can count on. (Think of this as a Challenge of your knowledge.) Reply at my page plz. DemiurgeArt2 (talk) 01:21, October 14, 2015 (UTC)DemiurgeArt2

Death
What power was he removed from? I didn't even know Gabriel456 (talk) 14:25, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Returned. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:51, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome
You do know that it's a broken link right? Truth 20:46, October 15, 2015 (UTC)Truth™

re: it already exists
Ah. I thought we already had a page like it here, but I wasn't sure. Smijes08 (talk) 02:29, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

I think we have something that covers attacking by jumping on something... that Mario move I think. Does it mention how much damage it can do? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:19, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 18:38, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that can be either a goddess or a demon, do you have any ideia of what power it would be? L12345 (talk) 19:05, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

SCP 682
Good find. Thanks a billion for adding that user to cosmic otherness' page. Hell if i know where i can find users for that ability :D

Doomweaver13 (talk) 02:27, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, Kuopiofi suggested that that character i said would fit to Divine-Demonic Physiology, what do you think? L12345 (talk) 04:58, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Meh, might as well. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:19, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Clear Mind
Hi

As you have probabaly noticed, I have been attempting to edit the power known as clear mind. I wished to clarify my intentions.

First of all, I'm not here to tell you to stop. You probably know a whole lot more about the power than me, and I take it as a compliment that you have allowed many of my edits to stay as is.

The only reason I have been quite persistent in trying to change this is because I feel as if clear mind is described as possessing complete abscenece of emotion and other primal drives, not simply the ability to suprress them. I would also like to note that, the way I like to see it is that, although their perceptions and decisions are not clouded, they may still, at times, be overwhelmed by guilt, sorrow, depression, despair, or other negative emotion due to actions in the past

I also feel like, although not at the expense of thier overall goal, may still follow primal drives. If one character with clear mind developes feeling for another indevidual with or without this ability, the two may still persue a romanitc relationship, as long as it does not hinder the clear minded character's judgement.

Greatest regards-

Tronkron (talk) 21:54, October 17, 2015 (UTC)Tronkron

Re:
There quality is just not that great or the descriptions and applications are either nonsensical or wanking, some of them are so FUBAR'd or long past that I forgot what the original idea was. It's just, they feel like a shame to me that I have to live with, and I don't want people to suffer through terrible content at my fault.

A Living Person (talk) 21:53, October 17, 2015 (UTC)A Living Person

RE:
Then perhaps you could help? Tronkron (talk) 21:57, October 17, 2015 (UTC)Tronkron

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:01, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

The Swamp
How did God-Swamp thing ascend and what were his abilities?DemiurgeArt2 (talk) 00:12, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

?
Hello? I left a message for you above, and an even earlier one about Kid Midas.DemiurgeArt2 (talk) 00:13, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Once again, thanks
You are my only guide in this massive wiki. I would like to call you a friend but it would seem weird. ( Also why are you not an admin?) DemiurgeArt2 (talk) 00:21, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Omnipresence gets close as the user exist every-when. But nothing that is exactly like that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, October 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * So, there is this character called Mas y Menos. That can go super fast so long as they are touching. And then there are a pair of electric sekirei who can gain greater electric powers when attacking together. And a pair of other DC twins that have sort of linked powers capable of changing forms one being water and the other is animals.
 * So, my question is there a power that is sort of like twin empowerment, to be stronger when near family or your twin?

 FlashWally22 (talk) 10:04, October 18, 2015 (UTC)FlashWally22FlashWally22 (talk) 10:04, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Uhhh...No
As someone who actually read the last book that came out, I would now whether or not Caleb is half god. The author alluded to (if not straight out says) that Caleb is not only a demon but half god in Infamous, Inferno and even Instinct where it is revealed that he is the son of one of the Primal God's son. so, yeah. I think I know what I'm talking about. --Son of the Dawn (talk) 21:19, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, really? Here you go. When I'm able to actually put the pages on the site, I will. Oh, and read the comments. Where he's a god is even confirmed by one of the the author's staff members. --Son of the Dawn (talk) 21:26, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Bro, the series is known for fucking around with thousand year old mythos. The author says that a daeva is a middle class/type of demon. I did research into what a daeva actually was as well. --Son of the Dawn (talk) 21:37, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:14, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

Say, what did you think of my Process Speed Manipulation power? Flamerstreak (talk) 00:42, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

Effect Adding/Addition - I have vague memories that we have something similar in Superpower Manipulation, but I could be mistaken...

Barrier/Shield Removal - usable, have fun.

Painful Countenance - none of the countenances we already have does this? --Kuopiofi (talk) 03:55, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:42, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

Expand that to Dream Recall and you got a deal. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:59, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it. Gabriel456 (talk) 21:51, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:51, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 03:56, October 22, 2015 (UTC)

Supernatural Artisan - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, October 23, 2015 (UTC)

Isn't that Matter Substitution? or am I understanding this incorrectly? Gabriel456 (talk) 22:22, October 23, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:36, October 23, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:32, October 24, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, what power would be the power to have no Morality? it's because i know a character that is is the weigher/balancer of all things, and thus, has no morality at all. L12345 (talk) 03:33, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

ok, thanks by the help. L12345 (talk) 03:54, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

Material Exchange/Swapping - so the objects shape stays the same but what it's made of changes? Sounds interesting, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:44, October 25, 2015 (UTC) Have fun. Got other Corruptive Attack Powers? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:32, October 25, 2015 (UTC)

Creasion
Hello. I have interest in this Creasion. Where did he demonstrate ability to create abilities? The Omnipotent One (talk) 19:04, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

Nice. And do you know where I can read those mangas?The Omnipotent One (talk) 13:26, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 17:23, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:53, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Except the damage lasts for a limited amount of time, and the user does not have control over when it ends. They just do the attack, that is all. Flamerstreak (talk) 22:35, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

Still, this is not a variation of Absolute Attack we talk about here. Your power says "target has died or the user decides to end the attack themselves." This power doesn't do that. It would go on for several seconds before it stops attacking. Should I take out the "Continuous" part of the name and replace it with something else? Flamerstreak (talk) 22:42, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

I believe I can, Sage. That won't mean I am going to do it anyway. I am going to wait until a higher up repsonds. I don't think it is that similar. Flamerstreak (talk) 22:50, October 26, 2015 (UTC)

I guess you could say that? Flamerstreak (talk) 20:59, October 27, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:13, October 29, 2015 (UTC)

The Darkness
Do you think that The Darkness from Supernatural could count as a user of either Absolute Immortality or Absolute Invulnerability? Gabriel456 (talk) 20:51, October 29, 2015 (UTC)

Alright then. Thanks Gabriel456 (talk) 20:56, October 29, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:13, October 29, 2015 (UTC)

go for it (for all 3) Gabriel456 (talk) 22:30, October 29, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 18:36, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that has ``all the keys on the world´´ having the keys to unlock virtually everything, even keys to metaphysical things/places, such as to someone's heart or mind. what power do you think it would be? L12345 (talk) 21:22, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Meaning that the User is the one that the others depend on to live? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:40, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it.

Would Demons from Supernatural count? since every human that makes a demon deal always goes to Hell at the end of the 10-year gap, after all Gabriel456 (talk) 22:02, October 30, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that control the path/crossroads of all the afterlife (Heaven, Hell, etc) and the land of the living, and often send those how should go to one to another (send someone how should go to Heaven to Hell for example) or even send those how should go to the land of the dead back to the land of the living, etc. essentially, she controls to where someone goes when die, and even if they will go to somewhere or just return to the land of the living. what power do you think it would be? L12345 (talk) 00:16, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, what power would be the power to endure anything? L12345 (talk) 01:36, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, what power would be the power to create/rule a realm of eternal darkness? L12345 (talk) 02:18, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, do we have a Demon Cat Physiology or something like that? L12345 (talk) 21:19, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:48, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that, althrough is already dead, is/has power beyond life and death (also having both on the palm of her hand), would that make her Absolutely Immortal right? it's kind of paradoxal, since she is dead, but is beyond life and death (actually, she irronically have become beyond life and death after her dead, being described as:Although she is dead, her power has been long beyond life and death). L12345 (talk) 22:49, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

My power
Hi. I'm making a page called Reliant Immortality (to encompass powers like Concept-Dependent Immortality, Emotion-Connective Immortality and Object Immortality).

Do you think Absolute Immortality would be an application? or just Immortality, with Absolute Immortality as either a variation like the ones above or association?Gabriel456 (talk) 00:06, November 4, 2015 (UTC)

Alright. I'll put AI in associations at the very least Gabriel456 (talk) 00:13, November 4, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:38, November 4, 2015 (UTC)

SAO question
Hi man I was just wondering where exactly was Akihiko Kayaba confirmed purged from the internet? I mean I saw you say it was a web novel but I couldn't find anything on those. All I found was saying after helping defeating Sugou and giving Kirito the World Seed that he's not being seen again. I'm just curious as I wanted to read more on the series. No rush and sorry if I'm bothering you. Have a great chaotic day no matter what. Jester of chaos (talk) 02:14, November 4, 2015 (UTC)

That's cool I was just not finding anything on ir and was trying to find out the arc. I was also hoping to find out more so I could update his page on the villains wiki. I just wanted to find out if cannon and wasn't even thinking of adding him back to the Immortality page. Thanks for the info and I do apologize if I annoyed you.

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 04:46, November 4, 2015 (UTC)

Interesting. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, November 4, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:01, November 4, 2015 (UTC)

Remember to connect it to Tongue Manipulation and add Ageusia Inducement. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:32, November 5, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, do we have the power to embody fascination or something like that? L12345 (talk) 01:28, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, do you know if be``Keeper of the Sacred Fire´´ would allow to someone any other power than just Holy-Fire Manipulation? L12345 (talk) 03:37, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

I have no opinion, honestly. Gabriel456 (talk) 15:28, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 19:20, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

Memory Physiology - have fun.

Undetermined Existence - for some reason I get the feeling that we have something similar... not sure tho. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:34, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

Might be covered by one of the Knowledge powers, check Knowledge Manipulation to make sure. If it isn't, sounds interesting. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:13, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

Yog sothoth is esentially the living gate to all magic, wizards worship him and when they die they become one with him he is the source of all magic in the Cthulhu Mythos

Professor nyarlathotep (talk) 22:47, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:55, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

In the "Silver Key" Yog-Sothoth was the called the gate, he opened a portal to all the plains of the multiverse at once, and even made Randolph Carter an imensly powerful Wizard

Professor nyarlathotep (talk) 22:56, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

Randloph Carter became one with Yog-Sothoth upon his death. But if you have read H.P. Lovecraft and are sure maybe I'm getting it confused with another power. but i could have sworn he represented magic especially since he is called a few times "the gate to everything"

Professor nyarlathotep (talk) 23:03, November 6, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i was thinking, the new power you made would technically be to characters that are not alive nor dead or undead, but are no amortals too? and also, do you have any idea of what power would be the power to:Delete Worlds? L12345 (talk) 23:38, November 7, 2015 (UTC)

oh, okay, i actually asked about the Delete Worlds thing becase i know a character that can delete and remake worlds. L12345 (talk) 00:07, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Welll then, thanks for the tip! Flamerstreak (talk) 00:39, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

By the way, what applications (other than Force-Field Generation) should I put in for the Filtered Force-Field power? Flamerstreak (talk) 00:44, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! Flamerstreak (talk) 00:49, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Um, are you sure the immunities will work for a power like Filterated Force-Field? Is it the force field that gives the immunities, I presume? Flamerstreak (talk) 01:27, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Flamerstreak (talk) 01:36, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

There is something I want to ask you
Well, I had this power approved by Gabriel earlier, but I am a bit uncertain about it. Basically, this power I planned to do is the ability to stand upright and move and even attack, even if one is boneless, has a body like jelly or otherwise is affected by this power.

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Rigidity_Removal

Now I know this sounds a bit crazy, and if you don't recall, I did have a power that ended up being crazy that attracted trouble and had to be deleted. I do not want to make a similar situation happen again. So, do you think I should do this power? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:20, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks. Flamerstreak (talk) 23:22, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Meta ability creation
Where Does in show that Kogarashi(kamen no maid Guy) can create any ability without limit form Prime36

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:32, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

Dune or DUNE?
Are you certain Dune is spelt all in caps? All the soruces I've looked at spell it normally, where are you getting that all caps version from? Evil-Tree (talk) 16:09, November 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you have a link or souce from where he said that? Because I've got an issue of Dune with me at hand and I can't find any mention of it being spelt in caps, at least in the first few pages. Might you know a page with it? (I'm only asking because I haven't read the book and don't want to be spoiled by skimming the pages) Evil-Tree (talk) 19:35, November 11, 2015 (UTC)

Don't change powers name when you want it deleted, that just adds one more redirection page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:36, November 11, 2015 (UTC)

Is the Beyond realm a totality of its own? Just asking for some info--KasenAlmighty (talk) 19:51, November 11, 2015 (UTC)KasenAlimghty

I knew that. Got a couple others as well. Flamerstreak (talk) 21:37, November 11, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks anyway, though. Flamerstreak (talk) 21:37, November 11, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 02:38, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

Bit too close to love I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:50, November 12, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 19:43, November 13, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:22, November 14, 2015 (UTC)

Definition manipulation
How definition manipulation actually work mean how would user if Definition manipulation user gain abilities like Absolute existance or absolute wish form Prime36

Reply Okay if Definition manipulation is so powerful can it create absolutely anything out nothing including new defintions by itself how would do so form Prime36

Any relations to Effect Field Projection? Several Variations do something similar, tho most are just links to specific power and description. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:13, November 14, 2015 (UTC)

Yo, a question
Do you know if there is any difference between striding and Enhanced Speed viewed on this site or not? Flamerstreak (talk) 02:22, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

Guess I will ask someone else, then. Thanks anyway. Flamerstreak (talk) 02:38, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

The existence of users is unrelated to the decision. DYBAD (talk) 06:38, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 14:47, November 15, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that has the power to see all, even things like someone's potential, what power it would be? L12345 (talk) 00:08, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

hay sage, i know a charater that can fire sugar candy from her fingers, any idea we have any power close to that? L12345 (talk) 04:36, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

Accelerated Hearing/Healing
I was the one who put wolverine and deadpool on the accelerated hearing pages. My bad, I read it as accelerated healing. :P

Foolster41 (talk) 06:48, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, that character i said that can fire sugar candy from her fingers apparently also is able to manipulate it, since she makes them float around her and her fingers. so what power it wold be, Sugar Manipulation or Candy Manipulation? i don't have sure. L12345 (talk) 01:09, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun with both. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:47, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Check if we have Effect Field Projection that does that and if there isn't make it effect field instead of presence. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:08, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

go for all Gabriel456 (talk) 18:34, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:28, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that is a goddess that predates life (and thus death too), being the one that created life itself in the fist place, does that means she is Amortal ? L12345 (talk) 16:04, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

Okay
But I just made it

Nat-chan 18:12, November 18, 2015 (UTC)Imouto-tan

If I find a gif or video illustrating it I will add it to the page

Nat-chan 18:32, November 18, 2015 (UTC)Imouto-tan

I think that goes bit too tricky to define/use. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:07, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

isn't that pretty much Enhanced Combat/Supernatural Combat? Gabriel456 (talk) 23:11, November 18, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:47, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 19:52, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. So how are imaginary particles not different from imaginary physical forces? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:19, November 19, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:12, November 20, 2015 (UTC)

Hey sage, i think i know a user fot that Destructive Presence power you is planning to do, the character very presence emits a miasma that ``brings all to ruin´´ (or simplyfing, destroys eveything), she also is the embodiment of calamity. does she fits to it? L12345 (talk) 02:13, November 20, 2015 (UTC)

ok then. L12345 (talk) 02:17, November 20, 2015 (UTC)

Do remember that Nature Manipulation isn't Variation of EM. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:23, November 20, 2015 (UTC)

As Attraction & Repulsion doesn't really give any limits to distance, this'd be the first part? Might as welel make the repulsion too. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:52, November 20, 2015 (UTC)

go for it. Would Energy Manipulation be an application? I mean, potential energy and all that Gabriel456 (talk) 19:07, November 20, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i wanted to know, how can we know when a being is Amortal or Undetermined? for example, the character i said that is a primordial deity that predates concepts such as life and death, so how can i have sure if she is Amortal or Undetermined? L12345 (talk) 00:44, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

well, that character i said is old of course, but she don't always existed, she was created by someone/something, and also, she predates life and death, so she is not alive, dead or undead, but she has traits of living beings, as she can give birth (what i think a amortal being can't do right?). so would she be a Undetermined Being then? L12345 (talk) 01:17, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

actually that thing of: Everyone in VC can die. that's not actually true, they can be DEFEATED, but not everyone dies on their Battle End Quote (that is when you lose a battle, and that's why it's caled Battle End, and not Battle Death.), in some cases, they doesn't even care, stating in the battle end they where just playing or having fun (The case of Lucifer for example, other example is Snow White, who has Enchanded Self-Ressurection, in the battle start, she says:it's not gonna work, and on the battle end, she says:I told you), also, Cybele battle end quote doesn't remotely state that she dies, she just says:Raised with such vigor. so that thing of everyone on valkyrie can die is not true, actually most of them don't even die on their battle end quote, they are just defeated or were just having fun. so what do you think about what i said? and also, why do you think Cybele is more an Amortal? L12345 (talk) 02:01, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

well, could you reply to my last message please? L12345 (talk) 06:12, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

Bit more details, does it allow movement, opening/removing obstacles to the goal? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:18, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

yeah, that explains, but actually, i don't have sure if she was created, or simply started to exist from nothing (like most of the other primordial gods)(through i think the second option is more suited). and also, what power a character that is ``The Goddess of the Origin´´ would have? aside of, of course, Origin Manipulation and Embodiment. L12345 (talk) 06:27, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

If you have Users, what do they call it? We can start from there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:40, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

Shortcut Access sounds good. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:42, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

Absolute wish vs definition manipulation
Which power better and easier to use definition manipulation or Absolute wish I like your opinion on this from Prime36.

Big Will and Dunamis
I'm still confused about Big Will and Dunamis (Saint Seiya). I mean what feats have others achived and what could one achieve with this ability? Could you shed some light on this situation and perhaps simplifiy it so I can understand? P.S Do NOT copy or repeat information from their wiki. It's happen to me before and it's getting tiresome. I mean that is the first thing I would check, obviously. DemiurgeArt2 (talk) 16:20, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

I think that has more to do with actual force than Inertia Manipulation like Kuopiofi said. Thanks anyway, though. Flamerstreak (talk) 20:14, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry! Flamerstreak (talk) 20:30, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

Definition of Omnipotence
Hello, Sage. I know we haven't been the best of friends this past two months. However, I saw your conversation regarding Definition Manipulation against Omnipotence and could not help but agree with you. So, would you like me to label DM as the only power above Omnipotence? Son of the Dawn (talk) 20:41, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

Including Property Swapping? What name is it under?

And not every power I have thought of is what you planned to make. You don't mean you were planning to make powers like Area Fusion, do you? Flamerstreak (talk) 21:10, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

Well, I am not out of the water just yet. I do still have a few tricks up my sleeve. Are you planning on doing Experience Mimicry? Flamerstreak (talk) 21:19, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

OK, but
You didn't answer my question. Ok. Thanks. DemiurgeArt2 (talk) 21:29, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, do we have a power like Love Magic or something like that? L12345 (talk) 23:44, November 21, 2015 (UTC)

Regarding DM...
I said that as I will most certainly change it back if he sets it to that. It is not logical in any way, at all. I never once stated or implied that I was of higher power or authority over BraveHeart, so, I have no idea where you got that notion from. Please, if you wish to respond to this message, I implore you to join the chat. Emperor Huffius (talk) 01:20, November 22, 2015 (UTC)Emperor Huffius

Ah, yes. I can see why how one would interpret what I said as "rude", but the mere idea of someone claiming something is more powerful than Omnipotence is what incited that into me, I am sure you can understand that. Emperor Huffius (talk) 01:34, November 22, 2015 (UTC)Emperor Huffius

hey sage, actually, Yhwach don't replicated Ichibe's DF Manipulation, he possesses power absorption immunity. The power summoned by Ichimonji can be stolen, but it cannot be used by the assailant or used against Ichibē because he controls all of the color black in the universe; as such, it is simply restored to him, proven when Yhwach's Sankt Altar fails to work against him. actaully, it's stated that Yhwach had become immune to Ichibe's DF Manipulation because his The Almighty. L12345 (talk) 01:49, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

actually, it doesnt mean he copied it, it means that any power used against him will never work after he ``knows´´ that ability:

Power Intuition: Any power of which he "knows" will become his ally.
 * Reactionary Power Immunity: That power will not only be unable to defeat him, but become unable to harm him in any way.

That's why it's called Power Intuition, Not Power Mimicry. he doesn't copied it, he just became immune to it after it's was used against him when he activated The Almighty. L12345 (talk) 01:57, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, actually i was Suprised when it was revaled that he is the Soul King's Son, i'am crazy to know how they will make Ichigo beat him, and actually, i think Yhwach fits more to Precognition than Nigh-Omniscience, since he seems to be able to see present and future, but not the past. and actually, i really like the Concept of Definition Manipulation, that's why i think Penemue is one of the most powerful being on VC, even thorugh she is the peaceful type that doesn't like fights, she just likes to spend her time writting messages. and actually, i think Absolute Change cannot have Limitations by the same motive DF Manipulation can't, with AC, you could simply change what limitations are. L12345 (talk) 02:18, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

Incarnation Manipulation - too specific.

Remote Motion Manipulation - sounds like Variation of Sympathetic Magic. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:43, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

yeah, i really hope to see some bankai's before kubo decides to asspull something that lets ichigo win without effort, like make ichigo immune to Yhwach's The Almighty's Reactionary Power Immunity for some stupid reason. Actually, the bankai's i most want to see are that of Kenpachi (i'am pretty sure it will be a very badass bankai), urahara and yoruichi, principally of Yoruchi, since even her Shinkai hasn't been showed yet. L12345 (talk) 09:28, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

well, actually Nozarashi is stated to be his Shinkai, not his Bankai. actaully is stated that: Despite constantly being in Shikai, Nozarashi did not initially grant Kenpachi any additional abilities or possess any additional power of its own, due to their lack of communication. Their disharmony left Nozarashi with little spiritual energy and let it become easier to damage; it is a chipped and seemingly worn-down blade. Nozarashi is Still his Shinkai, he still haven't achived or showed his bankai yet. L12345 (talk) 09:39, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

i also want to know what happened with Ukitate after Yhwach absorbed Mimihagi, is ws not showed what happened with him, i also want to see Aizen again, the last time we have seen him was after NaNaNa Najahkoop was killed by Bazz-B. L12345 (talk) 09:46, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

I also want to know why Orihime's Sōten Kisshun don't worked on the Soul King, since just say that it was because she is a ``Mere human´´ (according to Yhwach) is not actually a good explanation of why a power that reject's reality and "trespasses into God's territory" don't worked on the Soul King. L12345 (talk) 10:02, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

well, but that's not what her power is all about, reject everything within the Barrier no matter what is it? she would not reject him itself, and yes the fact he died. and the fact that he can be easily killed is strange, since he is the Physical manifestation of existence (actually, is he on the Existence Embodiment page?). and also, apparently there is a God on Bleach as mentioned by Aizen when explaning Orihime's powers (and i highly doubts it is the Soul King, it is most likely the one that created him) so there is another character i want to know more about on the future. L12345 (talk) 10:12, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

well, it's stated that he was killed, not incapacited, and then absorbed by Yhwach. but actually, the one that really interests me is the God that Aizen mentioned, he is most likely the one that created the Soul King, and probably the Supreme Being of bleach. L12345 (talk) 10:27, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

that's what i cannot understand, since the Soul king is so powerful, and has control over existence (since he embodies it) why he just don't erased Yhwach from existence? even through he is so powerful, why he was so easily incapacitated like that? why he instead of doing something, just stand there awainting to be Cutted in half and then absorbed? that's what i can't understand. L12345 (talk) 10:36, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

well, changing the subject, i have two questions, 1 - On Supernatural, what do you think about the whole thing of Death dying stuff (for me, just his physical body was killed, as he still exists as a concept) and 2 - could you explain to me the Aspect Manifestation power you is planning to do? L12345 (talk) 11:00, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

ok then, see you later. L12345 (talk) 11:03, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 13:16, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

Something I want to tell you
Well, yeah, I have something to say. Now, some of my past powers, as you know, weren't the best of ideas out there. I have had a few rather silly or dumb ideas before, or should it be more accurate if I say more than a few? Either way, I think there is something you should know, and it is about some of my power ideas.

The Stiff Movement, Telekinetic Acrobatics, Position Transitioning, Effortless Motion, one recent idea and any other movement power I asked approval for, you might have seen those. Well, I have something to say about those ideas. There is only one main reason why I wanted to make those powers: I wanted to make them as additional applications to your Unrestricted Movement power. Sure, it is unnecessary, and not so needed, but I wanted to do so because I like your Unrestricted Movement power, a lot. I am a big fan of it. I just wanted to extend it more, as I thought it could use some additional stuff. That is why I made those powers. I have no other reason to have thought of those powers, so if I wasn't interested in adding more to your page, and if I knew how unnecessary they were, I would likely never have proposed them to begin with. The same cannot be said about some of my other powers that were silly, but those specific movement powers were not proposed for some random reason.

I thought I'd tell you this because I felt that it was something you should know about, something I thought needed to get out. Whether you care or not, I hope you understand where I am coming from here. Flamerstreak (talk) 17:18, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, since you're back, can you answer that two questions i asked to you earlier? L12345 (talk) 22:56, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

well, Valkyrie has 3 characters that are Aspects of God there, Michael, that embodies God's infinite power and love, High Priest, that embodies God's Spirit, and Samael, that embodies God's ``Posion´´. so, does God from VC count as a User? L12345 (talk) 23:09, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:31, November 22, 2015 (UTC)

Reply
Even if you didn't change it back, I will do it anyway. Just want to test to see if there is something new with it. Quite disappointing. --Morgan le Fay 0 (talk) 05:32, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

But I just think our admins should just tell the staffs so in their blogs. Leaving one or two lines declining the change will be more polite than just saying nothing. --Morgan le Fay 0 (talk) 05:39, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 14:19, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

Reply
Well, they existed on my intend list for quite some times and according to my messages with Kuopiofi, they will be more than just physical combat, and will including all those special attack and defense like Attack Powers, Absolute Attack, Absolute Defense and can also be used for grand scale military tactics (offensive and defensive maneuvers). But if you want to make them, then okay, just tell Kuo that you will make them (you tell him, not me ^ ^). --Morgan le Fay 0 (talk) 17:57, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

Record of Lodoss War edits
Sorry about the recent edit war, there seems to be very little info on Record of Lodoss War that isn't about the anime so it's hard to differentiate that from the book canon. Evil-Tree (talk) 20:35, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

Phoenix Force
Do you think that the Phoenix Force would count as a user for Absolute Psionic Power? Gabriel456 (talk) 21:57, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

oh, alright then Gabriel456 (talk) 22:08, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, the Omni Death Inducement you is planning to do wouldn't be the same as Omnicide? or is something completely different? L12345 (talk) 23:41, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

Ye know, I was kind of aware on the movement based powers problem I have had lately. I just had a hard time controlling myself to stop myself from doing that, though this wasn't just for Unrestricted Movement, like I said in that other message to you. I don't know why I was caught up with these powers. Well, no matter, I have other tricks up my sleeve. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:08, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

Say, has there been a power done where the user could make a person obey the law, be a law abiding person, including normal physical laws? Flamerstreak (talk) 00:48, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

Not close enough, I believe. The power I am looking for just makes a single person obey the law, normal or physical. This doesn't travel to other universes, jus the one the user lives in. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:59, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

What about this?

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Order_Inducement

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 03:06, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 03:51, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

Interesting. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:36, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea. Gabriel456 (talk) 21:31, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

...
Okay, 1) In case you forgot about me, I have come to remind you that you still haven't answered my question. 2) Utipotence is being messed with, again. 3) Are my questions annoying you? If they are I'll stop. Hello?

hey sage, wouldn't Michael form VC technically be Ultipotent? She embodies god's infinite power, and as such she is an Aspect/part of him. and she would be Ultipotent as she just embodies his infinite power, but not his knowledge. L12345 (talk) 22:02, November 24, 2015 (UTC)

Weirdness Inducement
I'm just going to mention that according to the lastest episode of Gravity Falls, Bill Cipher and his 'pals' can't leave the town borders. So I'm kind of confused on how he is able to cause chaos on a near-cosmic scale. (Then again he would be able to if the barrier is broken, but I'm not really sure.)

Counter Power
I. If the user gains a nemesis power only once, how will the user switch to another nemesis power to counter the opponent's other abilities?

II. Is it possible for the user with Power Opposition to gain Power Immunity, Power Reflection, Power Negation, or Power Erasure to counter other's abilities? ToxicHolyGrenade (talk) 22:29, November 25, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:46, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

Hey sage, i know a character that can avert/prevent disasters, do you know what power it would be? L12345 (talk) 00:49, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

how, ok, sorry, i did not saw it. L12345 (talk) 02:23, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

I think at least some of the powers that deal with information/knowledge cover that already. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:18, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

Perfect sub-power for Logic Manipulation! Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:43, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:21, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:54, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage,i know a character that can do anything on others dreams. what power it would be? and actually it is more of ``she can do anything while inside others dreams´´ than manipulate dreams themselves. L12345 (talk) 20:38, November 27, 2015 (UTC)

Think you could expand that idea somewhat? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:55, November 27, 2015 (UTC)

oh, really? i did not saw it, sometimes i write your name while asking to another person. so well, can you answer it then? L12345 (talk) 03:26, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

That'd do it. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:38, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

Usable if bit limited. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:25, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

Uh...
Hello? Um, well this is awkward. Uh, I was just looking back at the Reality Dreaming page and I noticed you added Carrie Benson from Haven. After watching the episode I undid the edit, because it seemed more like a Nightmare on Elm Street scenario if you asked me. Since your almost never wrong, and because I'm curious, could you tell me what reason you had for putting her there? I'd hate to make a mistake like that.

No Reply
Check Number 177 in Contents.

Whatever
Sure but you do know that the standard infobox still exist right? Nat-chan 20:50, December 1, 2015 (UTC)Imouto-tan

The picture thing has always been a problem

I was the one who fixed the warning btw

I think that's getting bit too specific. Plus if it's allowed, next thing you know we've got ignorant variation of every power here... --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:37, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

1.Could you go into more detail?

2. go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:01, December 4, 2015 (UTC)

Directionless Warping - that's worth a Limitation in Reality Warping.

Transcendent Evolution - just add Transcendent Physiology to Evolution as potential result and you get the same result. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:18, December 4, 2015 (UTC)

True Form/True Power --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:46, December 5, 2015 (UTC)

Layered Illusions - that thing sharingan does? Technique of Illusion Manipulation I'd say, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:36, December 5, 2015 (UTC)

How is the Unconquered Sun not perfect?

EldritchOne (talk) 04:00, December 7, 2015 (UTC)

For some reason I have feeling that we have something that gets pretty close to this. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:47, December 7, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, December 7, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your little comment in that page I just made. So what was so specific about that power, again?

"Because its not really a separate/unique power, its just a different definition/name for limb extension. In fact thats pretty much all it is."

Um yeah...I really should have thought about it more before I clicked the publish button. I had a strong gut feeling something was wrong with it, and I an not sure how I missed that detail. Flamerstreak (talk) 01:21, December 9, 2015 (UTC)

BTW, what did you think of my Energy Independence power? Flamerstreak (talk) 01:36, December 9, 2015 (UTC)

Definition Manipulation
Is not stronger than omnipotence

sure Gabriel456 (talk) 00:20, December 10, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:45, December 10, 2015 (UTC)

Boundary Removal - for some reason I think we may have something similar. If we don't, have fun.

Identity Ignorance - bit like Somebody Elses Problem from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, or maybe Weirdness Censor? Expand that to include ability to affect areas/oyjer beings/objects and have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:10, December 10, 2015 (UTC)

That's pretty specific power... wouldn't that get pretty close to Concept Destruction? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:30, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, what that Afterlife Path power is planning to do does?, i wanted to know. L12345 (talk) 22:17, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

well, would gaede from VC counts?, she control the paths/crossroads of all the afterlife (heaven, hell, underworld, etc), deciding to where you go, or even if you will go to somewhere, or if you will go back to the land of the living. L12345 (talk) 22:29, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

sounds like a good idea, but I wouldn't know what to name it either. Sorry Gabriel456 (talk) 22:58, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

sounds good to me Gabriel456 (talk) 23:52, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

Interesting idea, tho name might use some work. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:52, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

You found someone with Rust Physiology? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:58, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

Sounds more like some level of telekinesis or really weird Limitation to powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:37, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

Not entirely sure why 'Number sense' was added to be deleted. It's a WIP, and therefore needs work to be a complete page, but is an existing power that should have a wiki page, and I see no need to delete it, only to improve it.Stealthytortoise (talk) 05:52, December 13, 2015 (UTC)Stealthy

Smuth is adding his Magnus Universe stuff again
You may already be aware but the user Smuth has been posting his Magnus universe users again, I know it's not the first time by your messages on his talk page. I undid them all when I noticed it so no other page edits that I know of need doing. Just thought you might want to know. Evil-Tree (talk) 20:26, December 13, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:11, December 13, 2015 (UTC)

Name could use some work, but otherwise have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:25, December 13, 2015 (UTC)

You got a good point. I'm fed up with telling him to use brackets, even telling how HOW, only to have him repeatedly ignore me. Gabriel456 (talk) 02:39, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, that guy. Not so surprised. With all the times he has ignored admins, all this time, I do agree banning him would be a good solution. Flamerstreak (talk) 02:55, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

Interesting, have fun.

Have you considered power to interact with the fictional media for 4th wall aware? being able to see/touch/move speech-bubbles, lean/spin on the edges, move between frames, etc.? I remember that TVtropes mentioned someone who was able to skip between panels and stab someone through the page, but I can't find it again... --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:49, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:33, December 16, 2015 (UTC)

Why do I need to stop changing that?HappyGabe12 (talk) 01:54, December 16, 2015 (UTC)HappyGabe12

Immutability Embodiment - interesting, have fun.

Limitation Transcendence - might want to expand the idea, do we have power that allows someone to use powers to others temporarily instead of granting those powers to them?

Unperceivable Attacks - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, December 16, 2015 (UTC)

Blocked already. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:27, December 16, 2015 (UTC)

Do we have power that allows someone to temporarily give any power to others instead of making it permanently theirs? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:07, December 16, 2015 (UTC)

So make that power. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:15, December 16, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, wouldn't that Immutability Embodiment you is plannng to do be the same as Stagnation Embodiment? because it is even said there that the users embodies immutability and changelessness, and one of the also called is Immutability Embodiment. L12345 (talk) 15:15, December 16, 2015 (UTC)

Creasion
Hello Sage. May I ask you for proof of Creasion being Omnipotent? This is old topic, but I need proof of it, please. The Omnipotent One (Dreamer) (talk) 13:01, December 3, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, can you give me a bigger example? Page where he says something about his powers, or where he uses it.The Omnipotent One (Dreamer) (talk) 12:31, December 4, 2015 (UTC)

Please?The Omnipotent One (Dreamer) (talk) 13:14, December 7, 2015 (UTC)

Answer, please. Thank you. The Omnipotent One (Dreamer) (talk) 18:18, December 16, 2015 (UTC)

If kenichi was able too defeat Hayato that means he is on a higher level than him so couldnt kenichi have reached Invincibility.

hey sage, i think i have a user for that Absolute Recreation you is planning to do, Harihara, the goddess of creation and destruction, because while she is able to create and destroy anything/everything on a divine level/without limit, she is also able to recreate anything/everything she can destroy. do you think she would count? L12345 (talk) 14:54, December 17, 2015 (UTC)

well, ok then. L12345 (talk) 22:19, December 17, 2015 (UTC)

1. Go for it

2. Could you go into further detail? What exactly makes that different from regular Recreation? Unless I'm misunderstanding something Gabriel456 (talk) 23:17, December 17, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:46, December 17, 2015 (UTC)

Got it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:36, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 01:21, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun with both. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:07, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

Sage, what was wrong with that picture? It clearly was representing. Maxoflas (talk) 19:19, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

First of all, on the Gogo Dogo picture, there was NO main picture on there. I put that picture on there. Then I changed it because I thought it was too blurry to see. Maxoflas (talk) 19:37, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong in adding a pic to power that has no Users, as long that pic relates to the power in question somehow. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:51, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

How does biological absorption connect to that? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:53, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! Flamerstreak (talk) 22:33, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Say, I am thinking of doing the Demonic Vessel power (unless someone else wants to do it), which would be opposite to Divine Vessel. Any good users? Flamerstreak (talk) 00:56, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

Good point. Thanks, anyways. Flamerstreak (talk) 01:06, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

When did I do that? Maxoflas (talk) 01:39, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I am not posting random pictures. I am trying fulfill a goal. Matter Detection: making a picture of someone detecting matter is not random. Or a picture of matter in an object and saying in the caption that "User can detect how much matter is in an object". I do not call that random. In fact, others do not either.

My goal will be reached. Not by stupidity, nor by randomness. But it will be reached

Thank you for your time. Maxoflas (talk) 05:09, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

Alright. Thank you. Maxoflas (talk) 06:05, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

There's actually very simple reason for why that happens, if the categories disappear from the page but appear in Edit, check the Gallery. This happens when Gallery isn't closed. Check the Edit I did to see what I mean. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:18, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:37, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 14:47, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Hi there
Hey SageM may join the chat plz? Nat-chan 00:19, December 22, 2015 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Why not?

Is there really anything wrong with my lastest power? Flamerstreak (talk) 01:00, December 22, 2015 (UTC)

I was aware of that. I just wanted to know of something really was wrong, not why'd you do it (when you didn't). Flamerstreak (talk) 01:05, December 22, 2015 (UTC)

you're welcome ^_^ Gabriel456 (talk) 01:27, December 22, 2015 (UTC)

We came to a conclusion...
We came to a conclusion in the chat with the creator of Psycho-Potence that it doesn't need to exist. Smurlock Holmes (talk) 23:01, December 22, 2015 (UTC)

Undone edits
I either hinted at or said that it ISN'T possible to have users for the power with each undone edit to the page and even said in a comment to another user that the power wouldn't have powers. Nat-chan 02:00, December 25, 2015 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Well I will admit that I was wrong, but it is your fault for not joining the chat to see what the page's creator said

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:14, December 25, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 01:39, December 26, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that is ``The Maiden of New Life and Things to Come´´. what powers be that would grant? L12345 (talk) 21:35, December 27, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 14:41, December 28, 2015 (UTC)

Well, apparently, that would be the case, then. Flamerstreak (talk) 20:06, December 28, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:03, December 28, 2015 (UTC)

Basically saving the potential of the power for the later use? Sounds something between superpower manipulation and Empowerment. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:05, December 29, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:05, December 29, 2015 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:21, December 29, 2015 (UTC)

Isn't that just Destruction? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:53, December 30, 2015 (UTC)

In other words, something like Data or Vision? Appears human/organic but completely mechanical/artificial? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:14, December 30, 2015 (UTC)

hey sage, i'am planning to do a Amorality page, it is essentially, the ability to have no morality at all, and thus immunity to Moral and Morality Manipulation and good and evil powers, but kuopiofi said that the ``basic idea could be expanded somehow´´ but i have no clue how, do you have any? L12345 (talk) 05:59, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Entropy Manipulation
Can you describe exactly how Entropy Manipulation works? Flamerstreak (talk) 22:52, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I think I understand. Thanks! Flamerstreak (talk) 23:08, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Why so? Is it because we have Entropy Reversal? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:23, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Well, it may not be as much as existing in reality rather than being in concept, but I have seen some mentions about Negative Entropy on the web. Plus, you do know this is in fiction, right? Where anything can happen? Not everything has to be real or existent to be usable. Granted, I can still admit that I am missing something on the useless part, but I do believe you are getting way too technical on this. Would you rather just have Entropy Reversal? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:41, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Doesn't mean it can work in some fiction. Note that I am not trying to justify my idea. I don't think it is that stupid, but I do realize it is very crazy, but then again, I am a crazy type of guy. When it comes to fiction, I am an "anything is possible" kind of guy, which is why I think you are being too technical on this.

But it shouldn't matter now. I have already changed out the idea with another one. I know how crazy the idea may have sound, but I would have preferred to wait for the admin's word on what they thought, even if they turned out to think the same thing you do. Then again, what are the rules of impossible and crazy powers, anyhow? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:54, December 31, 2015 (UTC)

Uh, yeah, when I said crazy, from me, that includes "flawed", so I did acknowledge the flawed part. But, it was not like I was planning this for a long time. I tend to have impetuous thoughts or ideas when I see one thing. When I saw the Entropy Reversal power, I thought it wouldn't hurt. I was wrong because I was too impetuous to think about it a little more, though I knew how crazy the idea was, I did not consider the flaws in time. So yeah, I should have thought more carefully on that, if you know what I mean. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:03, January 1, 2016 (UTC)

Also, I hope I didn't upset you too much with this whole Negetropy thing. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:31, January 1, 2016 (UTC)

Okay then. That's good to know. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:33, January 1, 2016 (UTC)

By the way, is manipulating the rate of entropy covered by Entropy Manipulation or can it be a sub-power/variation of that? Flamerstreak (talk) 01:12, January 1, 2016 (UTC)

You don't own it
You don't own the power now do you? :/

I can make any power I want

Give other users the chance to make powers

There are no rules that say that you can't make powers Nat-chan 00:17, January 2, 2016 (UTC)Imouto-tan

But is it stated that no one else is allowed to use it?

If so show me and I'll apologize

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:29, January 3, 2016 (UTC)

fighting empowerment?
You know if there's some power similar to fighting empowerment? I might create it then. BTW I see u still have tons of unarchived messages, you should either archive or delete them, it takes forever for them to load on my shitty internet while I'm downloading crap. 00:59, January 3, 2016 (UTC)

go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 01:33, January 3, 2016 (UTC)

All doable, individual comments below.

Civilization Erasure - not destruction?

Elemental Connection - have you considered Elemental Communication? --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:57, January 3, 2016 (UTC)

go for it, sounds good to me Gabriel456 (talk) 14:48, January 3, 2016 (UTC)

Got a list of the changed powers? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:36, January 4, 2016 (UTC)

I knew I was missing something here, except I was talking more about creating skyscrapers and towers. Fortification Creation seems to affect fortresses more than anything else from what I see. I can see the relationship, but since when exactly did skyscrapers qualify as fortifications? What am I missing?

As for City Creation, I kind of mean a single building. Flamerstreak (talk) 23:37, January 4, 2016 (UTC)

Hmmmm, I was the feeling that was the case. DId see the relationship, did see why it made sense, but I was not truly sure about that. Thanks for letting me know. No biggie, right? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:44, January 4, 2016 (UTC)

Has this power been done before under any name? Basically, I am thinking of one that binds two people, two objects, a person or an object, or more of any people or objects together so that they are basically bound to one another. Whatever the means, and whether the bind is invisible, intangible or not, the users would make it so that the objects and people binded will not be able to leave the other one behind as they go, and they have to move together and they have to stay near each other as long as the bind is in effect. Has this been done before? Flamerstreak (talk) 01:19, January 5, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! That wasn't what I had in mind, but thanks anyways. Flamerstreak (talk) 01:24, January 5, 2016 (UTC)

so...basically combo of Narration and Vocal Narration? Gabriel456 (talk) 20:14, January 5, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:26, January 5, 2016 (UTC)

I think Entertainment Materialization covers that. Could use some work tho. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:31, January 5, 2016 (UTC)

done. Until this is resolved, it'll stay closed off to everyone but admins. Gabriel456 (talk) 22:13, January 5, 2016 (UTC)

Book Manifesting? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:47, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

I dunno. What do those two have to do with combat? Flamerstreak (talk) 05:16, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Never mind. I found out that the power is not what I thought it was. I am taking it off. Flamerstreak (talk) 05:19, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Embodiments are Variations.

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:01, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

go for it. Kinda surprised it hasn't been created yet Gabriel456 (talk) 19:42, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Popular culture tends to color what people think. -_-

As of the Lamia in Naga-page, they aren't really related to either mythological being aside sharing the body-type with naga. They're essentially variation of snake-people. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:41, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

sorry for butting in, but we already have Angel Soul with that name part of the also called Gabriel456 (talk) 22:02, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

I'd say Artificial Soul covers that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:37, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:24, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

ah, thank you. Gabriel456 (talk) 23:08, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:11, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

Art-based Powers?
Hi, just curious, why did you remove the art-based powers category from puppet mastery, as well as doll and toy manipulation. I felt that the category fitted them well, especially puppet mastery, considering that puppetry is a performance art.

Can you just give me your reasoning behind your decision thanks.

Lynxerblade (talk) 06:23, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

While I do understand that it doesn't have a direct connection as in painting or music, other performance arts such as acting have been accepted, there is even a power called performance art intuition within the art-based power category, as well as powers like holiday entity physiology and architecture manipulation, genre embodiment (such as horror and romance), cartoon physics, censorship embodiment, and others of a similar nature. Its less about direct art skills, but more so conceptually connected as well as the broader genre of art.

As I stated puppetry is a performance art, excluding it in art based powers would be similar as excluding film or videogames, which are also currently accepted as powers that fit within the art-based powers category.

As for toy and doll manipulation, they are crafts, and to manipulate them in my opinion would make them considered art based powers. If manipulating a painting is accepted, why not something crafted and designed with artistic talent and design (sculptures, dolls, figurines, etc.)

Lynxerblade (talk) 06:38, January 13, 2016 (UTC) while I do see your point I still feel my point is correct, so we are at a stale mate. to break the stalemate I'm going to mention it within the chat late to get more opinions. I don't mean this as ignoring your opinion just to expand on other peoples opinion

thanks

Lynxerblade (talk) 06:52, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

While I appreciate your work on this site, please don't use me as back-up when you're arguing with others.

Also, please don't take this wrong but sometimes there's similar feel on how you dictate to others what is/isn't acceptable as DYPAD used to have. Not as bad, but it's a slippery slide... -_-

That aside, keep up the good work. You're one of the few people I don't need to clean after very often and that alone is blessing. :) --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:32, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:59, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

Shouldn't you tell that to Cnc instead of me? -_-; --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:34, January 14, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:51, January 15, 2016 (UTC)

Supernatural Taste
If you deleted the picture, the change the caption in the gallery on Supernatural Senses. Maxoflas (talk) 22:24, January 16, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. How is the idea I replaced it with? Flamerstreak (talk) 01:41, January 17, 2016 (UTC)

Alphabetical Order
On Screw Manipulation, the limitations need to be in alphabetical order. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Page_Creation_and_Details

Look at thr bottom. Maxoflas (talk) 02:46, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

It wasn't deleted because it "will never have a user, now or ever. as liquid fire manipulation only occurs in a single series. and there will never be another like it" as we already have powers that don't have users and it's severely doubtful they ever will, fanon category exists for a reason.

It was deleted because it's already covered by Fire Mimicry.



That mention about DYPAD like behavior? You're really doing it way too much. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:41, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:23, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

:T
Honestly the power doesn't exist because ANYone can run in ANY direction fast in nearly all forms of media; so your argument is completely invalid. Nat-chan 21:31, January 18, 2016 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Oh and by the by we had a power that was also a video game mechanic and it was deleted. It was called Telecommunications I believe.

User Talk: Imouto-tan

EDIT: So light novels have animated scenes and you're one to talk about criticizing others. :T

Sonic does running fast in the comics so your point fails and guess what? That power us literally running in all directions which humans can do. I highly doubt that you actually research anything at all.

Remember last night with Liquid Fire Mimicry? Yeah, you were very petty because someone else used your go to excuse of Gabriel456 agreeing to allowing you to make a page. Yes, I have your number. You always pull the "An administrator approved of my power" card whenever your power is called into question, but when someone else used it on you, you took offense to it and had it deleted posthaste. Nat-chan 21:40, January 18, 2016 (UTC)Imouto-tan

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:44, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

Compromise
After talking with some of the users on the chat I came to a decision to compromise with you on Directional Movement. I will just generalize the video game section, because face it, you said that game mechanics count so we might as well just add most video game characters with a Free Run like mechanic. Nat-chan 22:21, January 18, 2016 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Poltergeist Physiology
In the Poltergeist movie, its kinda strange that a Poltergeist can create reality-rarping-like obstacles, for example, elongating a corridor, opening portals to an afterlife dimension, become a parasitic monster of some sort, etc.

What's the name of that power by the way? Every single Poltergeist I've saw so far doesn't have that ability. DarkLightDamnation (talk) 00:08, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

Just wanted to say...
I once proposed an idea similar to the Authority Upgrade power you just proposed. Not trying to complain here, though that idea was not approved. Flamerstreak (talk) 02:59, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

Soo... your argument still going on? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

HA allows you to hide weapons by supernatural means and use them (added CWR to Applications), CWP allows user to be proficient using weapons hidden/concealed/disguised by any means, including mundane ad supernatural. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:47, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 18:36, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

wait, ignore that. I remember Flamerstreak proposing something similar: "Rank Promotion" (or something), and we both agreed to just add that to Hierarchy Control.

My bad Gabriel456 (talk) 19:12, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

this seriously puts me in a tight spot, because I turned down a virtually indentical power proposed by Flamerstreak.

If I agree to this, that kinda makes me a hypocrite...Gabriel456 (talk) 21:19, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

you're welcome, and sorry I couldn't have been more helpful...Gabriel456 (talk) 21:27, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

Flamerstreak just sent me a message clearing this up, so if you still want to make the page, go ahead Gabriel456 (talk) 22:36, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

Well, I managed to get the Authority Upgrade power approved for you, so you should be good to go if you still wish to make it. By the way, you're welcome. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:05, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 01:05, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Screw Destiny? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:33, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:35, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

I wanted to say sorry for the mishaps it was just I was following comments others made such as destruction embodiment about beerus and champa because some of it was logical regarding being empowered by destruction and also others because i was trying to follow-up on comments that could mae the page better. --JediEmperor (talk) 07:05, January 20,2016 (UTC)

Pardon me, but do you know any users for a power called Fate Protection? Flamerstreak (talk) 01:56, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

I am not sure if that is the power I am talking about. Let me give a description and see if it changes anything? Also, this was approved by Gabe, alreaday.

Basically, because of how fate affects the user, the user is protected by fate in some way that allows them to be immune to a particular thing. For example, fate may protect one from killing anyone at anytime, no matter what happens. It could also make fate protect the user from ever getting arrested by authorities for any reason, and so on with other things. The user does not control why or how it happens, as to why they don't get killed, beat up or even lose their home due to not paying taxes or even get something stolen from them. It happens nonetheless, as the people around the user will somehow be swayed from affecting the user in some way, depending on the situation. This is different from Luck because though the user is protected by fate, they do not get good luck for especially anything else in life. Just that.

Is that different enough, if any? Flamerstreak (talk) 02:23, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

Alright. Will do. Thanks. Flamerstreak (talk) 02:33, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:53, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:29, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

it sounds familiar, but I can't put my finger on it..

my recommendation? make the power, and if we do find the page that's pretty much the same, we delete yours Gabriel456 (talk) 23:54, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, now that my Fate Protection power has been approved, you happen to know any users for that power? Flamerstreak (talk) 01:34, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Do you know anyone? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:30, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Flamerstreak (talk) 03:44, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Wait a minite. My bad. I meant protected BY fate, not from it. You know anyone in that regard? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:48, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, once again, thanks. I appreacite you helping me out the best that you could. Flamerstreak (talk) 04:10, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 16:51, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 16:53, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

Bit too close to Elemental Augmentation I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:37, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:13, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

re: Enigma Force
I thought such a page already existed, but I just wanted to be sure. Smijes08 (talk) 00:35, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

Bio-Tech, Magic and Psionics
Two Questions

1. I have been asking this around but, would using biotechnology on a person to give them powers make them like a cyborg. Would their body contain machinery that someone with Technopathy could hack?

2. I have been working on a character named "Nephlim". He is supposed to have a power set similar to Martian Manhunter.

Specifically, they are.
 * Psionic-Magic Manipulation

The problem is making the origin story. I am trying to make it so he gained his powers from a fusion of Bio-Tech, Psionics, and Mysticism. I want it be that he was born with some of his powers (like a Metahuman) but was further empowered by outside forces. If you have any ideas, I am open to hear them.
 * Esoteric Flame Manipulation
 * Force Field Generation
 * Ethereal Physiology
 * Planeswalking / Teleportation
 * Superhuman Condition
 * Shapeshifting
 * Ultimate Intangibility
 * Invisibility
 * Extrasensory Perception
 * X-Ray Vision
 * Sonic Scream

Zxankou14 (talk) 18:56, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

you don't even know what the definition of definition is. it has nothing to do with origin

definition is defined as a statement of the exact meaning of a word, especially in a dictionary

having the ability to manipulate the meaning of a word would not change the effect of the word. let me give you an example: if you had the ability of definition manipulation. and you manipulated the word fly to mean the act of swimming in the ocean. it would simply manipulate the meaning of the word fly. it wouldn't change the act flying through the air it would simply remove the word fly from said act.

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif-light,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-weight:100;line-height:normal;">let me give you another example. lets say you have this power and you decide to manipulate the definition of lightning from: <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif-light,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-weight:100;line-height:normal;">the occurrence of a natural electrical discharge of very short duration and high voltage between a cloud and the ground or within a cloud, accompanied by a bright flash and typically also thunder

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif-light,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-weight:100;line-height:normal;">to:the act of walking backwards while holding your hands above your head saying oggabooga

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif-light,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-weight:100;line-height:normal;">the very effect of lightning would not cease to exist. it would still exist charged particles of energy would still be able to arc through the atmosphere of a planet at incredible speeds with increadible voltage and loud thunder.

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif-light,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-weight:100;line-height:normal;">all you would have done was removed the name of the act

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif-light,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-weight:100;line-height:normal;">as such if you changed the definition of Omnipotent from: <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif-light,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-weight:100;line-height:normal;"> <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif-light,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-weight:100;line-height:normal;">having unlimited power; able to do anything

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif-light,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-weight:100;line-height:normal;">to:the brand name of a dietary supliment

this alone would not cause beings who previcously were defined as being Omnipotent to lose power and suddenly die. those beings would simply no longer have a name for there power Nothing more

Actionmanrandell (talk) 13:35, January 26, 2016 (UTC)actionmanrandellActionmanrandell (talk) 13:35, January 26, 2016 (UTC)

halp
Do u know if there's a power for splitting oneself by using space-time manipulation, and then being in two times at once. Like Tommy does in the last episode of Heroes Reborn 16:04, January 26, 2016 (UTC)

Creasion
Hi. I have waited for over one month. Do you have that proof of Creasion being Metapotent? Thanks...The Omnipotent One (Dreamer) (talk) 17:20, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 18:02, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

Any relations to Existential Plane Manipulation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:48, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

Apologises
I just wanted to apologise, after researching I realised that you are correct about Rogue's power and I thought it only referred to current users and not past users so again I am sorry

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 16:27, January 28, 2016 (UTC)

Check first that we don't have something similar, that sounds familiar for some reason...

If there isn't, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:12, January 28, 2016 (UTC)

It's about expanding the infused matter/energy outside the object, if you can think better way to explain it, do tell me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:22, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Interesting. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:10, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 17:26, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, Sage. You know, I noticed you are extremely knowledgeable on Anime, Manga, and Comics, are you an enthusiast on those subjects or do you like collecting them? You do not need to reply at this very moment, I am just very curious so you can take as much time as you need. Have a nice day. --TheTwinkleBeast (talk) 05:04, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. Have you considered something similar to other creations, for example Entity Creation becoming real being/object? --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:31, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I'd like your opinion of something.

If I were to make a character that has Energy Physiology, being a entity of pure energy, but tied to the law that energy cannot be destroyed, would that make my character possess Absolute Immortality or Absolute Invulnerability? or both? Gabriel456 (talk) 17:20, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

hi hi
I was already doing that but thanks anyway ;) Nat-chan 23:18, February 1, 2016 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Why did you undo my edit, like, how was it invalid? Looney tunes would fit, I'd say, as they cannot be destroyed. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:50 PM, February 1st 2016

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:36, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 23:33, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

I think it may work under Doll Manipulation Gabriel456 (talk) 03:50, February 4, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:59, February 4, 2016 (UTC)

More like combination I'd say. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, February 5, 2016 (UTC)

Boku dake
I talked to a friend who's read the manga and he says that Satoru just 'appears' back in the present instead of living his whole life again like you said. And it makes sense, since he didn't know that Kayo's age changed from 10 to 11 in the book until he read it after coming back.

This is one page, Satoru as a child running: http://euamo.moe/jp/src/1454716315943-0.png

This is the next page, Satoru as an adult in the alley: http://euamo.moe/jp/src/1454716315943-1.png

00:48, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

So we are lead to think that he just quickly came back to the present, and he himself believes that, but in reality he had amnesia or something? I should read the manga quickly then, but I started reading JoJo instead. 00:59, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

We'll have to wait for the end of the manga to know for certain then, since if it's a coma dream then he doesn't have any powers at all. 01:14, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

Bit like opposite of Subconscious Manifestation. Any relations to Subconscious Manipulation?

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:47, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

Do you agree that Jinx can cause Disaster?

I added it to Jinx because it seems that bad luck and Murphy's Law go hand in hand... literally.

Ravonies (talk) 02:08, February 7, 2016 (UTC)

Universe Creation edit.
Was there something wrong with the image?Arachnaemaniac (talk) 04:24, February 7, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:43, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:45, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:48, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 18:40, February 9, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 19:31, February 9, 2016 (UTC)

Not complaining, since you have done it, but I was going to do Bloodlessness. Flamerstreak (talk) 05:01, February 10, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 19:00, February 10, 2016 (UTC)

Would that also be a variation of Limitation Transcendence? in that, the rules are limits and being transcended? Gabriel456 (talk) 19:25, February 10, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i think i have a user for your rule transcendence page, she transcends causality, and therefore transcends every law, rule, fate, predestination, etc. what do you think? L12345 (talk) 19:29, February 10, 2016 (UTC)

I feel like we have something like that already, but I can't remember exactly what it is

wait, would Temporal Cognition cover it? It seems pretty close to what you're suggesting Gabriel456 (talk) 00:30, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

I think Apathy pretty much covers that I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:21, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

How to Mix Mysticism with Bio-Tech
<p style="font-weight:normal;"> Hello Sage, you were very helpful in the Bio-Tech page, so I want to ask.: If someone with the power of Essence Manipulation, confronted a magical otherworldy entity, claiming to be an angel, devil, etc and used their power to turn said being's body into a tree with fruit that contains enough of their essence to give a piece of their power to whoever eats it. Could the tree be considered a mix of Bio-Tech and Mysticism ?Zxankou14 (talk) 20:22, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:48, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

Versatility of Ectoplasm
<p style="font-weight:normal;">I have been curious about this for a while, but if Ectoplasm is so unstable, could it be used like an Adaptive Energy. Also, if someone is made of this element, would they be capable of Elemental Mimicry?Zxankou14 (talk) 20:42, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

Vibrational Manipulation's Full Potential
<p style="font-weight:normal;">Ever since DC Comics redid Vibe, they have altered his powers so he could tap into "the vibrations of the universe" to make him a trans-dimensional bad***.who is capable of rivaling SUPERMAN in power. What I want to know is what someone would be FULLY capable of if they had Vibration Manipulation and applied physics to it?Zxankou14 (talk) 20:45, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

Good counter to Authority. Author Authority would be a good limit too, though. go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 02:19, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 01:51, February 14, 2016 (UTC)

It's happened few times before and usually goes away pretty soon. But you could contact Community Central if it's longer problem. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, February 18, 2016 (UTC)

Seriously?
Ok, first off, you either have a terrible memory or have some unresolved and unrequited quarrels with me because every time I make a serious edit, I actually check my facts and sources about people's abilities before I post it on an official page (unless it's just a joke of course). And second, please have evidence before you confront me about an issue that almost anybody on this wiki who ACTUALLY pays an iota of attention can see that's not there and this is not considering I barely ever touch the main powers at all most of the time anyway unless it is imperative. And then before all of this, you say a Star Trek character actually has omnipotence via an emotion (when almost any Trekkie or ANYBODY from the OBD will tell you otherwise), everybody who knows the material can see you are not the serious editor that you wish to have everybody believe.

Have a good day. CoolCat123450 (talk) 00:55, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

P.S. Next time another user and I have to remake your powers worthy of being displayed on this wiki with a legitimate user ... again .. , I'm going to call you out on it.

Alright, let's talk about this
Congratulations, you just proved that he is one of the most powerful reality warpers and even logic manipulators in the Star Trek Universe but the source material gives absolutely NO indication he is actually omnipotent ... even the Q is not remotely omnipotent. And media as founded upon the loose simulation of reality such as Star Trek and Star Wars will likely never give you an omnipotent. It doesn't have a clear, distinct divine hierarchy (Marvel Comics) or a plot controller (Featherine Augustus) that allows you to extrapolate that the user is Literally All-Powerful. I can understand you posting him on logic manipulation, but when there are races like "Them" in the Star Trek mythos, you cannot delineate one entity being beyond everything in totality to ever exist.

P.S. Word to the wise, the no-limits fallacy IS NOT applicable on this wikia along with the false assumption that if a user is more powerful than a group of reality warpers, then he must be omnipotent. I've had to correct people countless times for that mistake and you are in no way above them. CoolCat123450 (talk) 01:30, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

Recommendation
Hey, Sage, I noticed you read a lot of anime and manga, I was wondering if you could give me some recommendations on some manga if you have any? If not I understand and thanks for your time. TheTwinkleBeast (talk) 00:48, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it. TheTwinkleBeast (talk) 03:06, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

I think you need to know for some reason your Undo's mess up the collapsed Galleries same way as full-page Edits. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:50, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Expanded the Instilled Knowledge to include all forms of data infusion as more than few Users were already using technology to do it, meaning that Knowledge Downloading is covered by IK. Merged KD to IK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:04, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 17:55, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

Just unseen or have other spirit-like features too? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:54, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:00, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

What the fuck?
WHOA! Back it up. First of all, when I was looking at the category list, I saw those there already. I just happened to add to it. For example, I saw a category called "Chaotic Good". I just wanted to add to it. There must be a fluke... Maxoflas (talk) 08:12, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

I know, I won't create anymore. I just saw them before, but thanks anyways. Maxoflas (talk) 12:57, February 24, 2016 (UTC)


 * 1) go for it
 * 2) so like a umbrella power for those? like how Inducement is for all Inducement powers? Gabriel456 (talk) 22:35, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

Expand that to include more than acid, no idea of the name it would have but rain of fire is common concept and we do have rain of frogs. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:58, February 25, 2016 (UTC)

Sonic Pulse Generation might be bit too close to Sound Wave Generation I think.

Incapacitation Inducement is usable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:35, February 25, 2016 (UTC)

yeah, it does sound like a variation of that power, but I honestly don't know if we already have that covered Gabriel456 (talk) 02:09, February 26, 2016 (UTC)

None of those can be considered Variations as defined in Page Creation and Details, they're all Applications. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, February 26, 2016 (UTC)

1. Expand on the differences between the two

2 & 3. go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 20:10, February 26, 2016 (UTC)

Might want t fiddle with the name name, but otherwise have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:11, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

isn't that pretty much Chrono Vision? Gabriel456 (talk) 16:31, February 28, 2016 (UTC)

re: flauros
I read that he has Imaginary Numbers as well, it was on this page: http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Elements

Thanks for the heads up about the wrong link lol, I'll fix it.

Btw man, Sakura can't have Imaginary Physics Manipulation. Read the capabilities and applications and see if she can do any of those things. That's why I created the Imaginary Element Manipulation page, it was so her power was explained better. 22:51, February 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * Also, those elements used by the dream demons, are they named? Or they just "eeeh, they manipulate elements that they imagine by themselves lol" Or, by coincidence, it's Emptiness and Nothingness as well? 23:01, February 28, 2016 (UTC)

But Force Fields are just one of many kinds of Barriers... There are physical barriers, and energy barriers, and so on...

Orrochimaru (Naruto Series) Uses this skill to construct a barrier to block naruto 4 tails mode.

Also does Protective Force Manipulation Exist? And its Counterpart, Harmful Force Manipulation?

Ravonies (talk) 02:32, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Well, no signature = no answer. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:04, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:22, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Ability/Power Tradeoff - basically Limitation taken to max.

Singular Power Mastery - too specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:44, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

just forgot to answer, that's all.

but ultimately, all I can muster is "eh" -shrug- Gabriel456 (talk) 22:08, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:30, February 29, 2016 (UTC)

Step up from Astrokinetic Combat? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

notorious big
Isn't it more like Endless Attack? Omnicounter is more like to counter-attack with the opposing power. For example, if I attack with fire, it'll counter with water, if I attack with science it'll counter with magic etc. Notorious Big can't do that, it just attacks endlessly via motion sense, always attacking the thing that moves the quickest. 20:14, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

About Supertasking; does it allow one to be in more than one place at once to do tasks, or especially do many different tasks at once despite having two hands only? Flamerstreak (talk) 20:37, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

Yea I know I am reading the manga atm (currently on part 6), but it can't absolutely counter everything, since it couldn't eat the doors that were softened by Trish that just bounced it back, so if it couldn't counter this, it's not omni anymore. 20:56, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that has absolute control over gravity, to the point that she can effortlessly control/move entire celestial bodies (such as stars, planets, and even galaxies (since galaxies are regarded as astronomical objects by what I researched) with just one finger. what powers you think she would have? (aside normal gravity manipulation of course). L12345 (talk) 21:43, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

go for it, but wouldn't know what to name it either Gabriel456 (talk) 02:59, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

Might want to consider expanding the idea into something more general. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

go for both. I'm honestly surprised we don't already have stabilization Gabriel456 (talk) 20:07, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

As he isn't Admin anymore, he shouldn't be able to delete the page, only Edit them away.

Has he been doing it during few last hours? There were quite a few pages deleted 'bout ten hours ago, including my Talk-page. Because if he has, that's second time and that's timeout. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:50, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

you should probably report it to community central. Don't know how to help on this matter, unfortunately Gabriel456 (talk) 23:17, March 2, 2016 (UTC)

Blindspot
Just so you know there is more than one Blindspot in Marvel comics which their abilities are listed on this site. My edits were towards the newest Blindspot Sam Chung from the new relaunched Daredevil series that uses a special suit that makes him completely invisible. Just thought you should know as I will not revert your edit and risk an unneccessary conflict. -Adv193 (talk) 03:46, March 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hmm, a better idea is to figure out which blindspot is listed in Memory Implantation and Memory Absorption and do something about that at least as they are not related to the Sam Chung version. Though it is not an important goal, I do like to avoid any confusion on a wiki page if I can when editing. -Adv193 (talk) 03:53, March 3, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:05, March 3, 2016 (UTC)

I think Nigh-Chronolock might be best, the other can be the also called Gabriel456 (talk) 15:57, March 3, 2016 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:20, March 3, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. Have you considered doing other environmental physiologies? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, March 4, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 17:40, March 4, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:05, March 4, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that is the forest spirit, would it counts as Forest Physiology? L12345 (talk) 23:29, March 4, 2016 (UTC)

I think that's already covered by Curing. Gabriel456 (talk) 23:59, March 4, 2016 (UTC)

Anti-God has applicants that says "All Omnipowers" and even primordail and evil powers. So, Omni malevolence is covered by applicants "Evil" and "Omni" powers. Primordail Darkness Manipulation is covered by "Primordail Powers". Maxoflas (talk) 00:59, March 5, 2016 (UTC)

Elemental Augmentation
My bad, I only created fire augmentation

Could be clinch, those aren't that uncommon. Tho you could ask/report Community Central.

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:45, March 5, 2016 (UTC)

Help and Questions
Hi, I'm new here and I have a question...

What does it require for users to edit pages that are normally restricted like Enhanced Condition, I can't edit that page? Is it for certain users to only do that?

Caydeb messed it up somehow and I can't return the history past that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, March 7, 2016 (UTC)

They might be able to fix it, but it would take time. I'm still waiting them to fix few obvious mistakes and it's been over two years... --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:45, March 7, 2016 (UTC)

Response
Thank you!--CNBA3 (talk) 22:44, March 7, 2016 (UTC)

go for it

I think we have something like this, one of the silly powers... --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, March 9, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:50, March 9, 2016 (UTC)

Like using telepathy or empathy for example? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

you're welcome Gabriel456 (talk) 21:08, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

An Idea
Hey there, SageM.

I know you like making powers on this wiki so I figured I'd pitch this idea out to you. If you like it, go ahead and make it whenever you like, since I'll never get around to it. The power is Noun Manipulation. There's probably no users for it or anything, but it seems like an interesting power one could have in a story with similar powers. It would probably also be a combination of other powers like Identity Manipulation. I'm not asking for your permission to make the power myself. ''I'm asking you if you think the idea is good and if you would make it if it is good. ''

Scrublord Huffius (talk) 01:16, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

He's doing the same for me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:28, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

That might be the option to take. I can't do much about the other wikis, all I can do here is extend his block Gabriel456 (talk) 19:36, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

From Your Biggest Fan
You dont know me becuz I'm new here but I'm your biggest fan. 16,000 edits is a lot of edits so you must be one of the powerful people here and evrybody listens to you. Ive been lurking on this wiki for the past year and I see how users do not appreciate the work that you do on this wiki. But through hardwork and perseverence, you became greater than the pesky users that you have to correct on a regular basis like CoolCat who never knows what he is doing. You are awesome and keep up the good work and I hope I become just like you as I gain new experience as well. From your biggest fan, The Fast Train. Train a Grande Vitesse (talk) 21:19, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

SageM, Please Respond
Please respond to my message. I want your words on my page! Train a Grande Vitesse (talk) 22:01, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

lol
It's not a staff member, it's a fake account that he himself gave bureaucrat rights, so he can give himself admin rights, delete something and then he removes the admin rights. I saw it and was wondering why the heck he does that, so I asked, he should at least reply. 00:16, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

Point, I'll merge them together when I have time. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:39, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

Supernatural Lung Capacity might need better name or at least god explanation in Capabilities, other than that have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:17, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 13:22, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

Dear SageM, I sorry for what happen. The reason why I keep doing it was because it was there but it wasn't anymore before I edit. It keep changing to that page i didn't see the reasons until you block me that made me go to my page. Please unblock me. I sorry I cause so much trouble for you. Next time something like this happens I look at my profile. Also tell Gabriel456 I am sorry. I would but I can't contact him because of the block. Sincerely, Marcus9250

Musical Healing
Oh, there's already a Musical Healing page? Oops. Smijes08 (talk) 01:47, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Stinger Protrusion
Oh. My bad. Though Imouto-tan is the one who said they were artificial.

But either way, the page doesn't specifically say that the stingers have to be natural. Smijes08 (talk) 01:58, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry for your late reply

I forgotten about the Soul Reaper's having Soul-Bound Weapons ^ ^;

But my argument for the addition of artificial means of using certain powers still stand

Nat-chan 02:16, March 13, 2016 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Re: Stinger Protrusion
Yeah, I say we wait for Kuo to come online and get his opinion.

Sparking a debate like this over one user of one power is not what I meant to do, and I'm sorry you got dragged into it. Smijes08 (talk) 02:16, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

EDIT: Sounds pretty fair to me ;) Nat-chan 02:18, March 13, 2016 (UTC)Imouto-tan Talk

No envy and jealousy really aren't, although it is a common mistake to assume so.--Armyeater (talk) 08:40, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

All-right seriously SageM I know what I'm talking bout look it p and you will see that I am right.--Armyeater (talk) 09:04, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

SageM what is wrong?
I want to help you but you turn me away. Why are you being mean to someone who wants to be just like you. I want to be as awesome and logical and consistently great just like you. In a few years I also want to be best editor. So please allow me to be your apprentice Train a Grande Vitesse (talk) 09:43, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

That last message on my page from Train, not creepy at all... --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:10, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

Halp with page
Do you know any other users of a power like this? I'm going to make a page about it (don't steal lol) but I only know 1 user, so if you know more plz tell me. 21:11, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

Omni-Dimension means "all dimensions", while this power is for people who only exist in 1 universe, but not in all other infinite alternate universes. Not even a counterpart or similar being. 23:09, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

Eh, I can add it as "also named", then, but I'll think of a better name. 23:18, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:33, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

Plz add more associations and applications lol (Singular Reality Existence). 01:43, March 14, 2016 (UTC)


 * BB compiled and absorbed many goddesses from the abyss of the Moon Cell, giving her Potnia Theron: Conception of All Animals, the authority of the Earth Mother.

It says she absorbed the goddesses from the Moon Cell (and she is also part of the Moon Cell itself), so she can't affect anything outside of the Moon Cell. And there's the fact that the Moon Cell only exists in the Fate/Extra continuity, not in the main universe (Tsukihime, Fate/stay night, etc), so if she really were an Alpha Reality, she would be able to affect all realities even the Tsukihime one. 02:23, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

The Moon Cell only "records" the goddesses, so BB only absorbed those records, not the actual goddesses. 02:24, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

Koha-Ace is a parody and Capsule Servant is a spin-off game, so they don't count. 02:29, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

It doesn't, but it's obvious that it is. It has Ayaka and Proto Saber (male Arthur) on it together with Shirou and Arturia even though they are from different universes, Tokiomi is alive, etc, it doesn't follow a proper plot. 02:38, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

Man it's just a bonus game that came with the PSVita version of Hollow ataraxia, it's not a proper game with plot. Carnival Phantasm is also a self-parody that is not meant to be taken seriously (in one episode, Lancer is Kotomine's servant, but in another, he's Caren's), and the appearances of a lot of characters in the last episode is supposed to be a cameo. It's not a parallel universe, it says nothing about it on the wiki.

(btw dont change subjects lol) 02:48, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

honestly, I don't know. I'll wait until Kuo gives his opinion on it Gabriel456 (talk) 02:49, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

But in Grand Order, you summon servants from multiple points in time and space (or something, I never played it and don't know a lot about it). But anyway, BB doesn't appear in Grand Order so it's irrelevant to the discussion. 02:49, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

But I doubt she'll be invincible on it like she was made to be on Extra. And like I said, BB only absorbed the Moon Cell records of the goddesses, not the actual ones, so she is not the actual Alpha Reality, she only has similar effects to it inside the Moon Cell. 02:59, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

Can't I just change BB to Mother goddess? Dang. 03:03, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

It doesn't say that it is equal to Avalon. Its rank is B+++, while Avalon is EX, and "Its strength is proportionate to the will power of the user". 03:17, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

Undetermined Existence? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:51, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

Please no 'verse-specific names. Otherwise have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:14, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

Known Users
Conceptual Fire Manipulation. Know anymore users? Maxoflas (talk) 18:09, March 15, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:17, March 15, 2016 (UTC)

Choose which one of Creative/Life you use and have fun.

About that Dark Matter Manipulation argument, how about making Trivia section to address that issue? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:04, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

SageM, note that I have a power. All I need is users. This power is called "Meta Power Transferal". The power to transfer even omni or absolute powers, but must still need an exchange. You don't have to be in close contact, and it ignores conflicting immunities. You can exchange any power you want. Know any users? Maxoflas (talk) 02:31, March 18, 2016 (UTC)

?
Why did you undo my edit?

My Thanks
That was a close one, do you mind teeling me other things you guys avoid so I can keep an eye out?

go for both. Gabriel456 (talk) 02:29, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

Omniverse Creation
I put Omniverse Creation as Omnipotent Power,seems like you disagree,why?Can you explain?

Would this prevent evolution? Something like that happened to skrulls and kree in Marvel. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:38, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

I do not totally understand what dosent make Duality Transcendence a op power,can you tell me

Might get bit too close to existing powers, Memory Warping to Mentifery, Qlippoth to Sephirot. Not to say they can't be done, just that there needs to be clear difference. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:12, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

Defense Break Image
Due to the actual agreed definition of Defense Break, I do think the infobox image should be changed do one which better reflects the ability (such as the one from the gallery). The current Yu-Gi-Oh! image would be better placed on the Shield Penetration page. 03:00, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

Just remember to explain the difference clearly.

Sense Bestowal - would this include creating completely new senses (magnetic sense in humans) and/or expanding already existing ones beyond what is normal (human sight is based to three colors, adding fourth, expanding it to infra/ultra spectrum)?

Physical changes into the sensory organs? Felines see in dark because they have reflector on the back their eye for example. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:43, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

I'd say Variation to PO and Nigh powers. OP and it's Variations are by definition something beyond the reach of normal routes. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:06, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

go for all.

On that note, would Sheogorath (I think I misspelled his name..) from Elder Scrolls count for Illogical World Creation? Gabriel456 (talk) 17:19, March 21, 2016 (UTC)

That one Angle from NGE? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:18, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 17:07, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

Remember to add that it ma be usable to beings/objects and possibly Limitation that it can be used only on User. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:47, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

thank 20:39, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

How about making it about the object instead of use:. Prime Being of the items. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:01, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

Maddening Rod is an alias, not an object
"Maddening Rod" is one of the nicknames given to Carly Rancine in Camelorum Adventures. She's a human conduit for Reality Randomization. I'll make sure to include her real name and alias to avoid further confusion. (Her other nickname is "Glitch," used less often because she doesn't want to be confused with Vanellope von Schweetz.

New Power ideas
Hey I was wondering if I'm allowed to create this new power called "Bushido"? for this wiki. This power is where the user is a Japanese Samurai like the power Ninjutsu which is a Ninja and Onmyodo which is a Omnyōji. The power is almost like a variation of Chivalry where the user is a medieval knight.

So is this possible for this power to be created since I know there are characters who are samurais like Samurai Jack? If so anybody respond if this is a good idea for a new power?

Tokusatsu-31st Century (talk) 06:23, March 23, 2016 (UTC)Tokusatsu-31st CenturyTokusatsu-31st Century (talk) 06:23, March 23, 2016 (UTC)

sorry for late reply, but all I can say is "eh" Gabriel456 (talk) 14:56, March 23, 2016 (UTC)

go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 20:00, March 23, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:09, March 23, 2016 (UTC)

Need a second opinion
I recently added Monkey D. Luffy to Flight user to Flight because of his Gear Fourth ability. Could you help me determine if it belongs in a sub-page for flight? Here is a quick Youtube video link if you need to examine it for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbFB7Kp1RW8 -Adv193 (talk) 00:08, March 24, 2016 (UTC)

Wish embodiment
Wish embodiment can grant any and all wishs without limit wich it can do anything making an omnipotent level ability I just given it respect in deserves from prime36

So basically combining two separate powers with no other reason than to make them into one? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:54, March 24, 2016 (UTC)

Probably Variations, remember to make the difference to combination of Invisibility/Intangibility clear. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:36, March 24, 2016 (UTC)

Please don't tell me you have plans for every particle under Subatomic Manipulation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:33, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:38, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

Did you even read the descriptions of the two powers?--Armyeater (talk) 01:07, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

They are two very different powers Vaewolf Physiology is only for werewolf/vampire hybrids, and Werepire Physiology is for any werebeast/vampire hybrid.--Armyeater (talk) 01:13, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

Seriously?!!!! The very first line of vaewolf is A combination of werewolf and vampire physiologies, and if anyof the users on that page aren't werewolf/vampire hybrids they should be removed from that page and puton the new werepire page.--Armyeater (talk) 01:20, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

--Armyeater (talk) 01:28, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

Oh and it is not my fault that people focus oo much on werewolfe/vampire hybrids. After all, a lot of werebeasts are more impressive than werewolves.--Armyeater (talk) 01:31, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks :D, I guess I didn't quite find the page I was looking for, with the words I was using, so I didn't think it existed.Ravonies (talk) 04:33, March 27, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:50, March 27, 2016 (UTC)

re: Evil Repulsion
Oh.

Well, there's at least 7000 powers on this site. Can't really be expected to know them all, y'know? Smijes08 (talk) 20:39, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:44, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

honestly surprised it hasn't been made yet. so yeah, go right ahead Gabriel456 (talk) 23:49, March 29, 2016 (UTC)

Including Fates of both Greek/Viking Mythologies I'd say. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:52, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:29, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 16:53, March 31, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 01:27, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

Might want to rethink the name (linking mass... might be interesting idea), but otherwise have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:36, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

hi, I'm trying to make a page called Resurrection Manipulation (kinda like a cousin power to Reincarnation Manipulation). Almost done, but do you know any potential users, by any chance? Gabriel456 (talk) 18:30, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. :) where are they from? Gabriel456 (talk) 18:41, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

great! thanks again ^_^ Gabriel456 (talk) 18:44, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

plz
Create page demon summoning, I can't believe this page doesn't exist. 23:43, April 3, 2016 (UTC)

Would that work the other way too, chancing energy to matter without any spills of energy/explosions? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:59, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

Unimind: The ultimate stage of Enlightenment and Omni-Telepathy. If you want to add it to Telepathy, please figure out how to change the descriptions of Unimind and Omni-Telepathy. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:24, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:16, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:09, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

We don't already have that? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:18, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

Hey sorry for the trouble it was just an outburst I already talked to the other members like imouto tan and twinkle beast TheOne987 (talk) 22:45, April 10, 2016 (UTC)One

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:26, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

Medaka Box
Zenkichi's Devil Style nullifies coincidence and prevents fate from interfering with a battle, which is exactly said in manga.

Then please show me evidence of Fairness being a skill to destroy, negate and prevent any/all unfair manipulation of luck.The Omnipotent One (Dreamer) (talk) 18:37, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:12, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

Fairness of Devil Style
Well, there is your evidence, since you have so much work that you never give me one...

On the left, description of [Fairness]. On the right, description of the [Devil Style].

I gave you the evidence. Unless you have scan saying the opposite, your argument was invalid. The Omnipotent One (Dreamer) (talk) 14:31, April 12, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun.

We have power that allows one to embody single era, but I can't remember it's name. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:45, April 12, 2016 (UTC)

Shadow-Lightning Manipulation - getting bit too specific I think.

Map Physiology - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, April 13, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 14:48, April 13, 2016 (UTC)

Dark Element:
Good point. Thanks for pointing it out. I will apply it too. SDPanthera (talk) 21:17, April 13, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:54, April 13, 2016 (UTC) Dark Light

I get the part of there not being anything like "Demonic Light", but Corrupted has nothing to do with Dark Element, or Dark Light for the matter. Corrupted refers to demonic, evil, cursed, etc, not Dark. Dark has to do with the negative aspects of light. Its nothing mystical, so Corrupted doesn't fit at all. Argue with the mod further on this, because Kuopiofi is likely to remove your change. SDPanthera (talk) 23:28, April 13, 2016 (UTC)

Dark Aspects of light refers solely to the dangerous aspects of light, not demonic, corruptive, etc. As for the negative Forces part, I will have to discuss that with Kuopiofi then. Once he gives the okay, then i will change it. For now I will let it stay. Otherwise, you will have to discuss it with him. SDPanthera (talk) 23:48, April 13, 2016 (UTC)

I didn't remove anything on purpose. It was a glitch caused by the website, not by my hand. I'm very well aware of the Blocking. I'm not that stupid to mess with other member's page. It didn't happen on purpose so you know. SDPanthera (talk) 23:59, April 13, 2016 (UTC)

Also, I don't like your tone. Be more respectful next time. SDPanthera (talk) 00:01, April 14, 2016 (UTC)

Think it as the negative side of the element in question, the darker in a sense it's destructive/life threatening/etc. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, April 14, 2016 (UTC)

Low level Illusion Manipulation? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:53, April 14, 2016 (UTC)

Not every single user. Some characters of Fairy Tail, such as Orga and Chelia, who control black lightning and wind manipulation aren't corrupted. So your theory fails already. Having power over Dark Elements doesn't always say "they're corrupted" Dark Elements are more destructive, not evil by nature. There is no evil and good about elements technically speaking. its about the person who wields them. SDPanthera (talk) 07:32, April 14, 2016 (UTC)

He was never corrupted. That was his nature, just like everyone of Sabertooth. It wasn't because of his powers. There is no proof whatsoever about that, like at all. Same with Chelia. She too was never corrupted. She just used Dark Wind manipulation. There is no way for anyone to know this, so don't put these ideas in front as if its fact, because its not. SDPanthera (talk) 07:43, April 14, 2016 (UTC)

Show me proof where Masihima says that Orga he's been "corrupted" before getting beaten by Jura? Because he hasn't. Orga was like this the entire time. Because I can't find anything on the Fairy Wiki about this. SDPanthera (talk) 07:54, April 14, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. Might want to rethink the name tho. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:21, April 15, 2016 (UTC)

go for it. Could it be related to Apathy as well? Gabriel456 (talk) 17:11, April 15, 2016 (UTC)

You wouldn't happen to be mad at me for the whole Headlessness thing, would you? Flamerstreak (talk) 00:49, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that using her harp of the gods, can play any kind of music, do we have something that would fit to that? L12345 (talk) 00:58, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

Remember that we have Milk Mimicry and have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:01, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

o.o is my little entry called Compleat Collection a acceptible power? Ravonies (talk) 04:05, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Sense Sealing - to keep the pattern, wouldn't that be Sense Negation? Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:38, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

And most of the Greek were able to wriggle their way out of it anyway. That's just a fast way to stop the repeat Editing. Talk it out. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:47, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Haha, Kuopiofi added it back.--Armyeater (talk) 06:50, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Well, I gave you evidence of my statement, you didn't give me any evidence of your statement. The discussion is closed then. Have a nice day! The Omnipotent One (Dreamer) (talk) 09:28, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Not to my knowledge, so go ahead. Might want to check Pathfinder orcs/half-orcs, they have similar ability to keep fighting on negative HPs. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:35, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Lucky Main Character
That is questionable indeed. If you read about it, then you should know that it nullifies coincidence, luck of main characters that would twist outcomes of the battle. Plot Armor of main characters changes probability and increases main character's luck. Probability Stabilisation negates all probability-altering powers, such as Plot Armor.The Omnipotent One (Dreamer) (talk) 11:07, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Point, tho SDP has point in his opinion too. I need to think this... --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:16, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

You want to make power about being stupid? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:26, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

I'll have to go with no on that. There's silly and there's this... --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:15, April 18, 2016 (UTC)

Transcendent Conversion/Imbued Godhood - this any clearer than what your posts to my Talk-page show?

Formless Mind/Intelligence - there's power about bodiless/formless transcendent being (I think that was the description, been a while since I saw it), any connections to that? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:22, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

If she only generates the light, she isn't User. If she can use it to something, she's User. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:27, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

Does the singing/music have some additional effect aside of transforming the target or is it simply effect/way to cause the chance? Because that latter is simply special effect/Limitation (has to make music). --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:26, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 16:48, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

re: Situational Strength
Now that I think about it, you're right, it does. Smijes08 (talk) 20:39, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:02, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

Basically a controlled version of Power Randomization? Gabriel456 (talk) 14:41, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:07, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

Yet, Toushiro's is freezing power is not absolute, if it was, Gerard would not be able to break free after being frozen by Hitsu so easily as he did. i also know characters that can freeze things hotter than fire, such as Magma, but they clearly don't qualify as absolute. maybe some power like Elemental Freezing should be created for Hitsu or something like that. Toushiro's power seems to be a Upgraded version of Freezing, but not Absolute. at least for now. L12345 (talk) 20:13, April 21, 2016 (UTC)

plz halp more users
on Food Healing 05:51, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

Done. I leave it Editable for now, let's see if things have calmed enough. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:34, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

He's not even appeared in the series yet, wait until he does. 06:33, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, on the Next Episode Preview. He didn't actually appear yet, only next week. Having galaxies near the dragon of gods just means that the dragon is giant as fuck. 06:39, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Isn't that pretty much Creation/Omnificence?

Universe Armor/Exoskeleton - wouldn't that be Cosmic Exoskeleton? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:36, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

From T0234807H

I included Keena in the Boundless Inner World,you undid it.I get it.I know what todo.Tho can you tell me were Keena was in where she met the Law of Identity version of herself?T0234807H (talk) 10:47, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 16:02, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

Any relations to Fox-Fire Manipulation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:52, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun, tho you need to explain how the next incarnation works. Do they keep multiplying each time or is there point when the incarnations start to reduce and return into single body? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:05, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

go for it.Gabriel456 (talk) 00:17, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:04, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

I honestly don't know about that...

Take it to Kuo, and if he signs off on it, go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 19:53, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

Any relations to how Unseen University is described? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:30, May 3, 2016 (UTC)

re: Demonic Reincarnation
Oh, yeah. I remember that now.

Sorry. It's all yours, buddy. Smijes08 (talk) 22:27, May 4, 2016 (UTC)

Bit too specific I think. Ideas how to expand the concept? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:27, May 6, 2016 (UTC)

Illusion Physiology? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:06, May 6, 2016 (UTC)

re
Kuopiofi asked me to mass-move the categories, so ask him. 23:24, May 6, 2016 (UTC)

For the love of Jesus SageM! Why did you undo my edits????

That is such a terribly unfit canidate for the power!!!!

If you're going to keep the name, please, AT LEAST change the image and ddescription to something more fitting for the, "Also Known As," section!!!

Godspeed.

Prophet of the Lord (talk) 08:27, May 8, 2016 (UTC)Prophet of the Lord

How exactly is he, "The Best?" He is a demon!

My apologies to you for the aprubt removal sincerely, but you have to understand that that is most certanly NOT a good canidate. Just, from a realistic point of view, I mean, why not just put a likeness of God up instead? That would make so much more sense! He might be a powerful demon, but he, like everything else in the comics, was ultimately created by The Presence; The Presence, as the creator, dwarfs everything else in the universe, yes?

An also, last time I checked, this guy dies canicolly in the comics alongside Michael, leaving behind Ellane Belloc. Am I wrong?

I understand that I violated the rules with my actions and I am sincerely sorry for that. Believe me...I myself am very much familiar with the various rules for the wiki. I in fact have lost a few different created pages simply because of the rules.

Granted, while me removing most of the page was indeed mostly fueld by self-want, I'm also thinking of anyone else who comes to the wiki as well as us editors! I simply do not wish for people to be exposed to a bad influence such as that.

I hope you understand.

Godspeed.

Prophet of the Lord (talk) 08:43, May 8, 2016 (UTC)Prophet of the Lord

Comics or not, "Demon," is a term to describe a fallen angel. Both terms are synonymus with each other! I know a lot of media today often tends to portray them as two different races with the same fate, but in reality, they are both LITERALLY one in the same!

Knowing this, it would seem to me like he is exhibiting more of powers like, "Pushing," or, "Persuasion," or any powers related to those two.

How would The Presence not fit the power??? The Presence is the sole reason he along with Michael existed at all! If it wasn't for The Presence, they would have never existed to begin with! Heck, if he wanted to, The Presence could just bring them back, erase them again, or even transform them into something else! They couldn't do anything about it! If that doesn't sound like absolute will, then I don't know what does!

Godspeed

Prophet of the Lord (talk) 09:00, May 8, 2016 (UTC)Prophet of the Lord

Well, you do have point, but the, "Grigori," as they are called are also referred to as Watchers. If you look it up, Watchers are technically a form of fallen angel. The apocryphal book of Enoch does mentions both good and bad ones in the sense, but tends to focus more on the rebellious ones.

However, While Apocryphical texts can bear truth in them, most of whats in them is completely false and historically inaccurate. Therefore, we cannot fully trust those texts.

Godspeed

Prophet of the Lord (talk) 09:21, May 8, 2016 (UTC)Prophet of the Lord

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:41, May 9, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:51, May 9, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 14:54, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

That's just specific version of Attack Mixture, pass. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:39, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

I think we may have something that does pretty much that... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:15, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

I think it was something about personal magnetism, but not Enhanced Charisma... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:51, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

Might want to rename it, but otherwise have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:45, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that is described as: an Existence that deviates from all of providence. do you have any idea of what power it would be? L12345 (talk) 17:47, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

i don't really have sure either, that's why i asked., just that Providence means: God's foreseeing protection and care of his creatures or The protective care of God or of nature as a spiritual power. by what i understood, the character in question could either something like a Nature Forsaken or a Cosmic Otherness or something like that. L12345 (talk) 17:55, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

re
Saber from Fate/strange fake, Richard I. Here's the NP page. 06:38, May 12, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, kind of. But I think (my speculation, there isnt much info about it yet) that he only creates the super beam, but the stick will still break easily if he tried to clash it with some sword. 06:48, May 12, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:02, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

actually, just for curiosity, why did you added VC's Dainsleif in Conclusion Embodiment? L12345 (talk) 22:41, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

oh, i didn't know that about Dainsleif, for me it was just a normal Cursed Sword from norse myth. L12345 (talk) 22:52, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

Hi, just wondering, Density Manipulation is said to manipulate the "solidity" of an object, right? Well, by manipulating the solidity and lowering it, it can make objects pass through the density manipulated object like a liquid or gas, or does it go beyond that as well? Flamerstreak (talk) 02:41, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

I guess I should be thankful for you letting me know. You didn't happen to get my other message, by the way, would you? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:51, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

Say, has something like Aspiration Manipulation been taken in some form? Flamerstreak (talk) 04:24, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

God of those things, I'll agree, but since when was he embodiment/personification of them? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

Opinion?
Hi, I'd like to hear your opinion on my pending page: "Primordial God Physiology" (I would've done Deity, but it won't let me, even after I deleted the redirect). Here's what I have so far:

The power to use the abilities of primordial gods. Variation of Primordial Entity Physiology and Transcendent Physiology.

Also Called

 * Primordial Deity Physiology
 * Primordial Transcendent Physiology
 * Primordial Godhood

Capabilities
The user either is or can transform into a primordial deity, a god that has existed prior to or since the beginning of time.

Applications
Common abilities may include:
 * Immortality/Absolute Immortality/Amortality
 * Creation/Omnificence
 * Primordial Force Manipulation
 * Primordial Darkness Manipulation
 * Primordial Light Manipulation

Variations

 * Creator Deity Physiology
 * Monotheistic Deity Physiology
 * Power Manifestation/Primordial Embodiment- May embody aspects/forces of the universe, such as Life, Death, Destruction, Nature, etc

Associations

 * Primordial Entity Physiology
 * Transcendent Physiology

Known Users

 * Protogenoi (Greek Mythology)
 * God (Abrahamic Religions)
 * God (Supernatural)

Gallery
So....what do you think? would it work, or still the same as Primordial Entity Physiology? I wanted to make the page because a user keeps adding the name to Monotheistic Deity Physiology's also called, even when it doesn't fit. I asked Kuo about this, but that was two hours ago, and he has yet to reply.

Message me when you can, I'd like to hear your opinion on this Gabriel456 (talk) 17:40, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks! Gabriel456 (talk) 19:47, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

hey, wait. Why wouldn't the Protogenoi count? Aren't they primordial gods in greek mythos? Gabriel456 (talk) 20:04, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

Transmutation/Organic Manipulation/Matter Manipulation Limited to Created beings. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:08, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

alright then Gabriel456 (talk) 20:14, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

sounds good to me, go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:48, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

It's NOT Omnipotence
No matter how much you exaggerate their already great feats, it's not omnipotent level purely for the fact that it still has a chance of being done by a nigh-omnipotent character. The way to judge that is if they can accomplish feats on par of being the actual author meaning they are omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent in every sense. A true omnipotent being is BEYOND science. You act as if nigh-omnipotence is not powerful in itself. Most of that is what the Living Tribunal could causally do... CoolCat123450 (talk) 22:49, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

not wanting to intrude, but actually i know a character that is Nigh-Omnipotent (i think) and that could destroy all of existence (Totality of Existence), the character in question is an Anti-God though. L12345 (talk) 23:00, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

Not sub-power, Destructive variation of, technically. yeah, i think i understood, and well, if you someday you decide to do an Existence Destruction or something like that, you already have a user. and also, i'am planning to do an Science Embodiment power, do you know any users for it? L12345 (talk) 23:12, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be Game Over? , Total Event says the user can destroy realities, not Totality/All of existence. and you haven't answered my other question, do you know any character that embodies science? L12345 (talk) 23:40, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

ok. L12345 (talk) 00:01, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

I never said you said it
All I'm saying is that it could become a trend that you might capitalize on and I really do not want it here. CoolCat123450 (talk) 01:32, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:15, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:34, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

Idea, but need name and users
What would you call the power to resurrect others while strengthening them? It's like Resurrection Empowerment, but to others instead of oneself.

The only user, though, that I know is God from Supernatural, when he resurrected Castiel and promoted him to a Seraph, a far stronger type of angel. Do you know any potential users?

Or is there already a power like this? granted, we have thousands of pages... Gabriel456 (talk) 20:57, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Do you know any users that could fit? Gabriel456 (talk) 21:47, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

Alright. Thank you again Gabriel456 (talk) 22:04, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:45, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

Expand that to Improvised Weaponry and have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:50, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

That's basically just power without switch-off. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:04, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:25, May 22, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a place that is stated as: it continues beyond the sky. It is endless. and goes on forever. do we have something at least close to that? L12345 (talk) 00:50, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:39, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

have fun Gabriel456 (talk) 23:09, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i think i have a user for you Access Denial, i know a character that can control access, thus she can deny/remove access as well. L12345 (talk) 23:23, May 24, 2016 (UTC)

Um, I don't think Meta Environmental Manipulation is even that powerful as Physical Plane Manipulation and Lordship. I mean, MEM doesn't manipulate reality, just physics. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:04, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

So how would it be different from normal Physics Manipulation, again? Still, this would not control the whole physical plane at once, just one's current surroundings. Flamerstreak (talk) 00:24, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, do we have an Access Manipulation or something like that? L12345 (talk) 01:10, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

Sensory Scrying allows entering/hitchhiking someones mind, but what you're talking is more like Mind Reading. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:45, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

If it can be retrieved, I don't know how. Unfortunately you're left having to build the whole thing from the scratches. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:41, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

re: Augmentation and Calling
Okay, now I get it. Thanks. Smijes08 (talk) 22:06, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

Conclussion Dominance & Conclussion Embodiment
Keeping things clean, The embodiment of something that includes ending something would more then likely be placed under its applications. And while it is known as a association, that does not mean the power has that power. It also wouldn't make sense that the Embodiment of the very act they are doing, could not do the same power themself.OmnipotentDeity (talk) 20:27, May 26, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, Maybe i know a user for Almighty Magic, it is a Witch with All-powerful level of magic. L12345 (talk) 21:51, May 27, 2016 (UTC)

Aside of LoN your points are valid, her case is bit more complicated as she's the source of gigaslave and ragna blade and both are beyond the level of other forms of magic.

Basically if anyone has any level of claim to AM it would be her as she's essentially source of everything in that verse, and that includes magic. Depends really how you want to define it, is it enough that part of what she does is based magic or should it all be based on magic. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:45, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

Bit like Temporal Duplication but using alternate versions instead of past/future? --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:37, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

Probably somehow related anyway...

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:08, May 28, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:32, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

If you have the time, tell me: what can make a power specific, anyway? Flamerstreak (talk) 03:46, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for answering. Flamerstreak (talk) 03:55, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

I think I see what you mean, but isn't that basically Exoskeleton with Limitation that they can only use their own traits? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:38, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

Which is basically what Exoskeleton is about, it includes all Variations by definition same way as Earth Manipulation includes all forms of earthen matter. By your description there might actually be one real User for it after all... --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

not really, the character just know all about space, she is not guardian of it, if anything, she actually wants to rule it instead. L12345 (talk) 06:56, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea if we have a page of that Gabriel456 (talk) 20:40, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

Conclusions
Kuopiofi is completely fine with it. Not to mention there are countless of powers on this wiki who do not have any viable users. This is simply the polar opposite to origin'. And even so, Im positive I could find some users for Conclusion powers to keep it outside the no users category. OmnipotentDeity (talk) 21:43, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

There was no point to absolute science or magic either, Yet there they are. And the very same could be said about a whole armada of other powers, yet there they are. On the other spectrum however, Conclusion and it's other addons do have a point. They change and manipulate how things can and will end. OmnipotentDeity (talk) 21:53, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

Nay. Self conclusion manipulation does not exist as any power on the wiki. And conclusion manipulation is NOT conclusion dominance just how Origin Manipulation is NOT Origin (Beginning) dominance. As for Conclusion Transcendency, No. It is not just 2 powers mixed together. if anything its the absolute form of both immortality and erasure immunity. OmnipotentDeity (talk) 22:06, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

First off, Dont call me a liar. If i know something or if I dont thats a different story. But with the ability to transcende your end, that would make your existence absolute. And the same can be applied with you. Dont pull things out of your ass. Thank you very much :) OmnipotentDeity (talk) 23:22, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

Respectfully, I apologize for lashing back to you. It seemed like you were kinda attacking me (and still kinda are.) by calling me a liar when I had no knowledge of such a thing. I believed that if you transcended your end you would be default become a cosmic otherness and or gain absolute exsistence over yourself as nothing can stop/end you (other then probably the omnipotent being, but thats a default for anything isnt it?) And I respectfully agree that perhaps I may or may not be wrong on such a matter, but I do heavily believe there could be more applications for such a power. OmnipotentDeity (talk) 00:00, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Works fine for me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:51, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Have you checked Community Central if others have same problem? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:03, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

I have no idea Gabriel456 (talk) 18:25, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun with both.

Fictional example of eternal storm is Eye of Abendego from Pathfinder, been going over century at current date and shows no sign of slowing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:33, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Say, do you think Reality Recreation is doable? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:00, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? Flamerstreak (talk) 23:27, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Okay then. Thanks. Flamerstreak (talk) 23:34, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, if you say so. Flamerstreak (talk) 01:33, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

Don't we have power that does pretty much that? Giving User the power that reflect their personalities. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

Bit too specific, but could be expanded to deal with all powers that affect whole of the user. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:50, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:31, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

I think we have that already, Users can only use their powers together without any mention of the power source. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:21, June 2, 2016 (UTC)

I feel like we already have something like this, but I'm not entirely sure...

But go for it. Hopefully, I'm wrong on that feeling Gabriel456 (talk) 01:57, June 3, 2016 (UTC)

So basically Devolution/Death Inducement on massive scale? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, June 3, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, June 3, 2016 (UTC)

Would that include humor, joy, comedy, etc.? --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:53, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think we have that. If we do, I don't know the name of it Gabriel456 (talk) 13:33, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Sage! I wanted to ask you if we had any powers that were very similar or exactly alike to Meta Magic but for Psionics and Science/Technology? If Not, I wanted to ask if you could help me make such a power :o? OmnipotentDeity (talk) 21:08, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:04, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

Not as such, but I think most conversions have Limitation that target may lose their previous personality/sense of self.

And if there isn't, there should be. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:34, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

Superpower Manipulation field? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:41, June 6, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:28, June 6, 2016 (UTC)

Argue it on Talk-page between you and Kyuubikibakaizokudan, and please use each others Talk-page instead of mine. As I don't really know a thing about what you're talking about, I really don't have anything but your words for either opinion after all. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:56, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

On pages such as Fire shield a mamodo named Zofis is the one performing the attack yet his partner Koko is listed beside him. This is no different than Vino being listed by Clear Note in the destruction page. Seeing as there is no difference I would appreciate it if you let me add Vino.

I'm not gonna stop because there's nothing wrong with what I'm doing. It doesn't matter if Vino’s not a user of destruction himself, Clear can't perform his spells without his partner Vino. Zatch Bell is listed with his partner Kiyo Takamine even though Zatch is the one with the ability. There is nothing different with adding Vino next to Clear Note. I'll report you to the admin if you erase Vino again.

If Clear Note/Vino are similar to Zatch Bell, in other words one needs the other to activate/use the power and can't do it otherwise, then both are added to Users. If one can use the power without other then it's only the one who can do it is User.

Think it as the one who does the thing as sentient item of power and the other activator, does that make more sense to you?



Fantasy Element Manipulation - that's different from Imaginary Element Manipulation... how? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:24, June 8, 2016 (UTC)

That's better and usable, tho' the name could be better.

There's power with main pic of water in shape of flame on candle-wig, I think it was called paradox, impossible or some such. Something like that? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:11, June 8, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:59, June 8, 2016 (UTC)

This differs from regular weapon creation... how? --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:51, June 9, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:08, June 9, 2016 (UTC)

Ehhh. If anything blackhole embodiment would be a variation to graity embodiment similar to solar and stellar. and Astronomy embodiment does not = <span class="mw-headline" id="New_Power_Ideas:_Black_Hole_Embodiment.2C_Universe.2FCosmic_Embodiment.2C_Astronomical_Embodiment.2C_Celestial_Embodiment.2C_White_Hole_Embodiment.2C_White_Hole_Manipulation" style="font-size:28px;line-height:30px;">Astronomical embodiment which would basically be the evolution to astronomical object manipulation similarly to solar/stellar manipulation evolving into solar/stellar embodiment. Also when I say evolving I dont legit mean evolving, its just a way to say how they were probably conviced ^^; OmnipotentDeity (talk) 00:08, June 10, 2016 (UTC)

actually, Astronomy Embodiment is not really the same thing as Astronomical Embodiment, Astronomy Embodiment is to embody the study of astronomical objects, and not the astronomical objects themselves (the power itself says: May have knowledge of astronomy, but may not be able to actually affect astronomical factors in any actual way.) L12345 (talk) 00:09, June 10, 2016 (UTC)

Again, the same logic could be applied to blackhole embodiment to gravity as it was for stellar and solar embodiment's ^^; But we will have to wait and see what Kuo thinks OmnipotentDeity (talk) 00:13, June 10, 2016 (UTC)

Now now, There's no need to get agitated, nor are we really arguing becuase im not disagreeing with you in any way shape or form. I am simply stating, that yes they are a infinite point of gravity, that they would be like how stellar embodiment is to solar embodiment. Obviously the sun is a star is it not? And stellar embodiment's variation is solar embodiment. Blackholes are made not by random infinite points in gravity, but when a supernova goes off and its far too big and collapes in itself, creating and causing a blackhole. Which is why I recomended making it a embodiment. OmnipotentDeity (talk) 00:21, June 10, 2016 (UTC)

Oh I see :O I thought black holes were usually all created via the collapse of a supergiant star going supernova. Any reason why they are called rouge blackholes though? OmnipotentDeity (talk) 00:27, June 10, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah I have and huh I see. My idea originally for black holes was basically to make them black hole manipulation combined with absorbing replication. (Essentially they would be like..Replication or absorbing/absorbtion Embodiment. I would suggest that as a power, but I feel like the name is terrible. Powers must have a cool name you know ;) Plus eh, it doesn't sound like it'd have much. Probably just omnifarious and all absorbing powers (almighty absorbtion and etc?) OmnipotentDeity (talk) 00:36, June 10, 2016 (UTC)

Death Manipulation - usable

power to make normal things do extraordinary or supernatural things that they shouldn't be able to do - no.

And don't continue your arguments on my Talk-page. It's annoying and makes trying to find legit posts incredibly hard. Move it to between yourself and don't try to excuse it by "just continuing what the other started". --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:19, June 10, 2016 (UTC)

go for first, dunno about the second idea Gabriel456 (talk) 14:35, June 10, 2016 (UTC)

No, but you can get the same effect by using few other powers together. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:36, June 12, 2016 (UTC)

Two first sentences contradict each other: you don't build house before adding framework, it's the other way. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:30, June 12, 2016 (UTC)

Say, has this been taken? Surgery Empowerment, or Experiment Empowerment as another name? Basically, it is the ability to be empowered by medical/scientific experiments or surgeries. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:35, June 13, 2016 (UTC)

What about Indivisibility, which is the inability to be torn apart forcibly, like being cut in half, being separated into atoms and such? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:41, June 13, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun.

There's at least one goddess who does this, might been from Polynesian mythology or from that area... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, June 13, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 17:23, June 13, 2016 (UTC)

Why didn't you tell me in the first place that Kuo said not to create anymore?!? Maxoflas (talk) 18:53, June 13, 2016 (UTC)

No you have not
No, you did not. All you said was, "Kuo told you specifically not create anymore categories". So, no, you have not told me this before. Even still, you should have told me when you first messaged me about the category. Maxoflas (talk) 19:14, June 13, 2016 (UTC)

I was already undoing my mistake, so don't mess with please and thank you :D Imouto 23:34, June 13, 2016 (UTC)Imouto-tan

I honestly don't know if we already have that or not.

make it. If we find the page that already covers it, we can merge yours with it. Gabriel456 (talk) 16:08, June 14, 2016 (UTC)

Unnoticeability? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:09, June 14, 2016 (UTC)

Go with the user being unnotable/unimportant. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:58, June 14, 2016 (UTC)

re
If by Akasha you mean the power source, I removed because it's not a person, it's only a source of all power. If you mean people who are connected to the Akasha like Manaka and Ryougi, they aren't omnipotent (Manaka is defeated by Saber, needs time until she can summon the Beast, Ryougi isn't either) 00:00, June 15, 2016 (UTC)

They are connected to the unlimited source of power, but it doesn't mean they can use all of the power at once. 00:13, June 15, 2016 (UTC)

Isn't that basically training? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:13, June 16, 2016 (UTC)

thanks for checking
since it's gonna take a long ass time, I'm removing magical powers from ALL pages, and I would add it back to the correct pages when it's over. If you're going to help, thanks, but don't remove Supernatural Powers, keep both it and Magical. 18:27, June 16, 2016 (UTC)

It's because you and DYBAD messaged me!!! I left AWB running and went out of my house, now I can't put it running again until I get home (about 2 hours from now). 22:02, June 16, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, June 17, 2016 (UTC)

Enbu is martial art discipline, based on cell manipulation - just like Ripple based on biological energy manipulation and multiple techniques from Naruto based on chakra manipulation - don't see, how Enbu isn't qualified.

Hand of Yib (talk) 00:36, June 18, 2016 (UTC)Hand of Yib

Replication/Cloning? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:42, June 18, 2016 (UTC)

Usable, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:30, June 18, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:06, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that can: ``sweep away misfortune´´. do you know what power it would be? L12345 (talk) 23:02, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

No,the main point is that shes able to die if she exerts herself too much kind of like how she almost did die according to the wiki.If you don't believe me go check.

Also im writing a story and i was just wondering if anyone[any character] can use this power.

No,the main point is that shes able to die if she exerts herself too much kind of like how she almost did die according to the wiki.If you don't believe me go check.

Also im writing a story and i was just wondering if anyone[any character] can use this power.

Taiyu (talk) 23:17, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

Can anyone use this power; say if i am writing characters can they use this power as well?I'm asking,since you know so well on manga and all.

Can anyone use this power; say if i am writing characters can they use this power as well?I'm asking,since you know so well on manga and all.

Taiyu (talk) 23:21, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

Okay so can i ask you this,so I'm not allowed to use this power,In my writing.I have a character who's similar to her ....so am I not supposed to give my character the same power?

Taiyu (talk) 23:23, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

You know i find it funny how you respond so fast to my other one and not the one question i ask you?Is it because this power is exclusive only to her and I can't use it?What is this wiki supposed to be for anyways?

Taiyu (talk) 23:28, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

Is it possible that I can use that power for my character?He's kind of similar to her several ways.

Is it possible that I can use that power for my character?He's kind of similar to her several ways.

Taiyu (talk) 23:36, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:45, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

Not sure how to answer my questions?Well two characters can have the same powers can't they?Even if those two characters are similar?Just saying.

Taiyu (talk) 00:48, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

Tretonin has nothing to do with physical injuries (Which the page entirely implies). In S7, Episode 4, Teal'c had to heal like anyone else now he had no symbiote, unlike before, and it was not stated that the tretonin was helping in anyway. Before, he healed a matter of days thanks to the healing powers of his symbiote.

The Immune system heals stuff like disease and infection. Physical healing is different.

And the page describes stuff like ailments. It mentions nothing about healing staff blasts or gunshot wounds. Tretnonin was never, ever mentioned to have the ability to heal physical wounds, only boost/replace immune systems. Gabriel456 (talk) 01:04, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

The Jaffa grow sick and die simply because the symbiotes they carry replace their immune system, making it too weak to fight off any infection they may gain or already have before the removal of the parasite. Removing it only makes them heal physically like any normal human, it doesn't remove it entirely. Otherwise, like I said, Teal'c wouldn't have recovered from his injuries (which was substantial). and again, tretonin was never stated to have any effect on the healing, otherwise, Teal'c would've been fine and dandy within a day or two, instead of the unknown but long about of time it took, all while he was on tretonin. Gabriel456 (talk) 01:11, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

Still doesn't count. Teal'c still healed, even if it was the same length as a human. Trentonin was NOT implied to have affected him at all. They never said it, they never implied it. They only lose their ability to fight off infection, nothing more. They still healed from any wound like humans, regardless of how long it took. Tretonin had no effect on that.

If you want to make a page solely on that, go right ahead. Then it would count. But as it stands, it does not Gabriel456 (talk) 01:19, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

I'll say this again. Tretonin doesn't impact, much less remove, the jaffas' ability to heal. They revert to being pretty much human, but they can still heal like any other human, especially if they have medical help in the process. They just don't stop healing, otherwise, again, Teal'c would've been out of commission shortly into Season 7.

Tretonin merely has the same effect the symbiote does on the immune system: it replaces it, and as a result, makes it too weak to fight off infections if the tretonin/symbiote is removed. The only way your argument works is that if they happened to have been shot, stabbed or whatever at the exact time they had no tretonin and was currently dying of a weakened immune system. But that's a bit too specific to still count for the power. (not to mention, the show never did anything like that. All the times Teal'c got wounded and had a brief loss of his tretonin, they were entirely separate times, they never happened at the same time) Again, it was never implied to have any impact on their ability to heal from such wounds.

That's all I'm trying to say. But like I said, if you want to make a page that's all about destroying/removing immune systems, go right ahead. But I stand firm that it does not count for Healing Erasure. Gabriel456 (talk) 01:43, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 02:17, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

Not that I know. Might be somehow related to History Reading. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:40, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think we have that Gabriel456 (talk) 14:22, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:57, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

Any Users?
I may need users for this power I'm making. It is the power to recreate objects that have been destroyed in anyway, even Nonexistence, but they recreate it with a more enhanced version.

Unlike Remolding, though this is a combination of this and Absolute Recreation, the user can create it from scratch. Any users? Maxoflas (talk) 17:40, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

How is that the same?
Recreation Empowerment is not the same as my power that I told you about. Recreation Empowerment is simply to be empowered after being recreated. My power is to recreate things that have been destroyed in anyway, and it can be from scratch, but have enhancements to that creation. Maxoflas (talk) 18:35, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

I think not...
"User becomes stronger, faster, more durable, etc. from being recreated, possibly unlocking abilities related to the affinity and enhancing their existing powers."

My power does not offer that at all. My power allows the user to recreate from any destruction, and from scratch, but with enhancements. Recreation Empowerment just allows the user to be empowered BY being recreated. It does say so in the capabilities. And even if it does allow the user to be empowered after it recreating things, that is still not what my power has to offer. Again, my power is the ability to recreate from any destruction, and from scratch, but give what it recreated enhancements. Maxoflas (talk) 18:48, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think so
"...and the empowerment is to grant new powers and enhancements by recreating them."

The power states that the "User becomes stronger, faster, more durable, etc. from being recreated, possibly unlocking abilities related to the affinity and enhancing their existing powers."

My power is to recreate from scratch, but with enhancements. -The user RECREATES from scratch and throw in enhancements TO THE THING IT'S RECREATING. The user does not get the enhancements, only the thing it is recreating.

While Recreation Empowerment allows the user to get empowered from being recreated.

See, Empowerment is egocentric, while my power is towards other things. Maxoflas (talk) 19:11, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

I Know it effects others, but that is besides the point
Even if Recreation Empowerment enhances others and even the user, that is still not what my power offers.

Again, my power is to RECREATE. Recreation Empowerment only allows the user, and others to get enhanced from being recreated. It is simple. Maxoflas (talk) 19:22, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

NOPE
Destructive Dominion : "The ability to destroy anything including an entire civilization, reality, time line or etc beginning to end to remake it into the user's image. The user is given domain over anything that they may choose to destroy and brought back into existence."

Though may have recreation involved, this is irrelevant. Maxoflas (talk) 19:30, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

Really?
Wikipedia and DC wiki says that, but that is not a reliable source. But if you read the comic, then I guess. But, here, this is where I got the information from.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/krona/4005-27246/ Maxoflas (talk) 20:23, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

Well, no
Heh, no. Recreation: The user can recreate anything that was destroyed in any way.

The key word is 'anything'. His physical form was destroyed.

Definition of destroyed: 1.put an end to the existence of (something) by damaging or attacking it.


 * Let us see, his physical form is "something".
 * His physical form was "attacked".
 * "Recreation would imply he was completely destroyed, but he wasn't." It does not imply that, but even still, his physical form was destroyed, no matter if it says he was reduced to energy. He recreated his physical body.

Also, Restoration can mean bring back. Restoration also has the same "Also Called" as Recreation, and that is Reconstruction.

No need to make it sour buddy, but I get it, it is okay. You can just have it your way, while I stick to the Maltusian Evolution Tapestries. You have a good day sir. Maxoflas (talk) 20:40, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

So?
Eh, like that matters to me anymore now. As I said, you can have it your way bro. Have a good day. Maxoflas (talk) 20:50, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

Okay?
I love you to, Sage. See ya. Maxoflas (talk) 20:53, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

isn't that Higher Consciousness? Gabriel456 (talk) 23:45, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

yes, it does. go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 02:13, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

Knowledge Mimicry - have fun. That'd be technique of Knowledge Manipulation.

Discorporation - Destruction? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

Destruction: "destroy anything, everything and everyone", Irreversible Destruction: "inflict damage and destruction that cannot be repaired or healed from its destroyed state", Soul Destruction: "permanently destroy/annihilate souls".

Heart Restoration - usable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

Universal Lordship edit?
My edit was removed. Why?User:TheMightyRegulator (talk) 01:02, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

I am aware of that, but those normally involve a star. I was talking about making a supernova blast without a star involved. Just the explosion. Mini supernova explosions, that is. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:59, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, but what about replications of supernovae? Supernova like? I don't see what is wrong with that. It's not like such a replication always need a star, or a mini star to happen. Plus, most of these powers happen in fiction, anyway. Why always go by the rules of logic, here? Not everything has to make sense, does it? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:11, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Not yet we arem't.

What about Plant Ressurection, or Galaxy Mimicry? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:46, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

I did say not yet, but I believe soon. Sometime after the 8000 page, even. We are definitely getting close. :p CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:50, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:00, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Mental/Mind Evolution - usable, have fun.

transform artificially gained/granted powers into natural powers - bit too specific I think.

?Supernova Inducement and Star Destruction? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Not that I know, but it must be said that we don't really have much mention of how long the powers stay active. It's only mentioned on Limitations and usually on the line of "may be irreversible/may have limited duration". --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:49, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Say, do you think this kind of power would work? It is the power to access others's past dreams, even when they are awake, and do things such as summon things from their dreams into the real world, mimic any powers or skills the other person may have had in their dreams, inflict the pain they may have experienced in their dream/nightmare, shapeshift into something from that dream/nightmare, cause any sort of feelings or sensations they may have had in the dream, and other things. What do you think of this? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:06, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

So you do think it could work?

And I suppose it could be for daydreams, but not just daydreams. Past dreams the other person has had would work as well. Like how Dream Materialization could materialize stuff from one's past dreams as well. But I have no problem in having this be a variation of Daydream Manipulation if it must. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:10, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

I'd hate to bother you again, but what do you think of this? A power that can alter and change the past dreams of oneself and others. I haven't thought of the name for it, but is it workable? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:48, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

I figured. Just wanted to make sure. Thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:59, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

No idea what causes the gif-problem. When you have problems with the basic wikia functions, it's much more productive to contact Community Central than me.

Mind Melding? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:39, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

Question about Visual Nullification
I've been thinking about the Visual Nullification page, and wanted to ask you something about it. Do you think Goku from DBZ is an example of that power?

If I'm not mistaken, he gains immunity to an attack/technique that he's seen at least once. During the Cell Games, none of Cell's copied techniques work on him because he'd seen them all before and knew how to counter them. Smijes08 (talk) 09:11, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

Sounds more like Dimension Creation to me really. Universe is quite a bit more, it'd be the whole Pokemon-series verse.

And series, keep this between yourself... --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:43, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but there might be power that allows ideas/dreams/etc. become reality... --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:05, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Pretty sure that wouldn't be limited to just air/gas, check Transmutation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:26, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Not sure how to help on the gif part, never encountered something like that before... (maybe take it to community central, see who can help there)

But as for the power ideas, go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:16, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Say, is there a power tha manipulates what is false, wrong and such? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:58, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Gas Transformation - Liquid Transformation allows only changes of/to liquids, so drop that "into an entirely different substance" (tho something like that could be usable) and have fun. Not sure if existing powers cover Solid Transformation already...

Age Aspect Manifestation - something like The Three Faces of Adam/The Hecate Sisters? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:49, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

Pathfinder has a spell that does this and there's even lesser artifact that does the same in Maiden, Mother, Crone. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:21, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 14:42, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:05, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

That's more of special effect/personality than physiology. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:39, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

I think it gets bit too specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:15, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

have both physical mass/weight and no physical mass/weight - possible but tricky.

Implacable/Unstoppable Mode - I think we have some powers that do basically this. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:15, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

Usable, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:45, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

--Kyuubikibakaizokudan (talk) 03:29, June 29, 2016 (UTC) You know, I never liked you.

Last message came before I saw your post, so cleaning things a bit.

Chronos: protogenoi of time. First generation of deities, begotten by/from Chaos.

Cronus: Titan of harvest (probably, we don't really have concrete evidence of that aside of connection to Saturn and few hints) and propably some other things. Second generation of deities, son of Gaia.

From Chronos page: "Chronos already was confused with, or perhaps consciously identified with, the Titan Cronus in antiquity due to the similarity in names.[1] The identification became more widespread during the Renaissance, giving rise to the allegory of "Father Time" wielding the harvesting scythe." --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:55, June 30, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:29, June 30, 2016 (UTC)

How exactly is that different from Time Acceleration? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:56, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if real world equivalent isn't something, in this case what happens in fiction overdrives the reality. Otherwise we wouldn't have this site at all as most of the powers give reality middle finger. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:06, July 2, 2016 (UTC)

My bad, for some reason I thought it was Adhesion Manipulation instead of Adhesive. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:26, July 2, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun with both. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:32, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 13:45, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i know an user for your Life Transcendence power, Lich from VC, but she is beyond both life AND death though. Tsubasa16 (talk) 03:20, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

Interesting idea, tho the name might need some fiddling. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:42, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 14:24, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

Took you long enough. What about the other one? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:02, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

Idea is good but needs some refining. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

What? I haven't deleted anything aside Comments for days. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:07, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

Can't. Whoever idiot did it removed every trace of it.

You might want to contact Community Central over this. I can't do anything for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:19, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

Report it to Community Central, it's not like I can do much if I don't even know who's doing it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:34, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

Let's hope they actually get something done, invisible Admin isn't something that should be allowed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:40, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

if you're talking about Reality Interface, I didn't delete it. even if I create a blank page for it, I don't see the usual notification that I'm creating a page that was previously deleted.

I seriously have no idea what's going on Gabriel456 (talk) 15:13, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

I created this topic to ask Staff to add Kuopiofi's bureaucrat rights back. Please comment on it. 23:33, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

Say, instead of Inertial/Force Defiance, I am planning to do Newtonian Law Defiance, and make it so that it defies all three laws of motion made by Sir Issac Newton? As in, not requiring an outside force to change velocity, ignore the force equals masss times acceleration thing and ignore the law of action reaction forces and be immune to things like recoil. Gabe approved. You still know any users for this power? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:26, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:39, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Good to know, hope they figure who's behind that mess. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

re
Unfortunately I agree with you. There was that thing with DYBAD, and it wouldn't work with either you or me because we're hard-headed lol. I suppose we could appoint for "content moderator" rights so they could partially help. 07:15, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:46, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, July 8, 2016 (UTC)

Some kind of enhancement, Affinity perhaps? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:05, July 8, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Sage ! Encompassing all series/Verses is THE condition when it comes to Omni-Creator, the power is entirely based on this idea which is present thorough the whole page, and explicitely clear in both the definition and picture. It is a power that by definition can't be had due to the extremely diverse real-life origins of fictional creations, that's why its purely theoretical nature is openly acknowledged in the definition.

DYBAD (talk) 23:54, July 8, 2016 (UTC)

I wonder if the writer of Space Dandy has the legal accreditations to portray others' works as parts of his own ^ ^;

DYBAD (talk) 00:03, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

well, destroy totality is kinda suicidal, since it would most likely destroy the user too. but it's not impossible, though, since there are characters that can do it. Tsubasa16 (talk) 21:13, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

well, technically, absolute destruction can destroy the ``nothing´´ as well, and also, i think that pretty much someone how is powerful enough to destroy totality itself can also be in that white empty space as well. and also, wouldn't the Choushin from Tenchi Muyo be users? since they created the totality on Tenchi Muyo. Tsubasa16 (talk) 21:39, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

yeah, but i say Absolute Destruction can destroy totality and the nothing, not the overmonitor and that Blank Space. (also, so the Overmonitor can be regarded as the Origin of everything?). what you seem to agree that could be done, since as you say, that blank space is ``beyond´´ totality and nothing, so it's still an valid limitation to TM. and also, i know a character that i think that can go in and out of that Blank Space, as you can see here: [[], do you think it is the Blank Space, or simply outside of everything/nowhere? Tsubasa16 (talk) 22:02, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

Pretty much an paradox we could not understand, that if it doesn't destroy the paradox too XD. Well, could you answer the question i made? Tsubasa16 (talk) 22:17, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

The character in question has control over Space-Time, and can literally tear if apart, if that helps in anything to know if it is the Blank Space or Nowhere/Outside of Everything she is coming from. Tsubasa16 (talk) 22:24, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

Not really an limitation, actually universal irreversibility itself is an application of Absolute Change, With Absolute Change, you can both make completely irreversible and immutable things become reversible and mutable and vice-versa (and also, UI can be countered by AR), things like immunity or negation are completely useless against it. in fact, Absolute Change is one of the only powers here that can be regarded as truly unlimited. Tsubasa16 (talk) 22:50, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

Wouldn't Iihiko from medaka box count as a user of the power you is thinking too? since his power is described as being from another dimension. Tsubasa16 (talk) 22:55, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

Actually, UI page says that AR MAY not be able to undo it, not that it can't. Tsubasa16 (talk) 22:57, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

Might want to think the names bit more, but otherwise have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:36, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

Gabriel456 (talk) 14:35, July 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) I honestly have no idea if we have that on here. The closest I can think of is Dimensional Entity Physiology, but I don't think that's what you're thinking of.
 * 2) Go for it

Hey sage, do we have any power that would covers prevent others to go to Nirvana? if not, should i do an Nirvana Prevention? Tsubasa16 (talk) 03:56, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, i asked it because i know a character that was able to prevent herself from going to Nirvana because she wants to fulfie her last wish first. Tsubasa16 (talk) 04:14, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

Say, is there a power that allows the user to read the body and mind of an opponent in a way that they see what the user is capable of? Abilities, powers, skills and all that? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:11, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:31, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

An earthen variation, if you will. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:40, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

RE:VS Battle tier rankings question
Well, usually to completely unfathomably transcend the basic requirements for tier 1-A, or in comparison with other beings within it, and to have no minor weaknesses or higher beings that relegate the character to tier High 1-A instead.

However, DarkLK understands the system much better than I do. Antvasima (talk) 19:31, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you, but has Community Manipulation been done before in some way? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 05:13, July 14, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a user for you power, Nyx/Nox from Greco-Roman Myth, she is mother of (created) several fundamentals aspects of existence, such as Death, Balance, Chaos, Fate, Light, etc. Tsubasa16 (talk) 18:53, July 14, 2016 (UTC)

Omnifarious already covers that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:20, July 14, 2016 (UTC)

I recently requested a User for the Multiple Lives power, I would do it but I think I would mess it up adding the user and picture. Would you do it for me ? Sinon ~ (talk) 20:47, July 14, 2016 (UTC)

Request From Flames Of Phoenix
As I said above. I have recently suggested a User of the Multiple Lives power 'Rayna Cruz' from the Vampire Diaries and i was wondering if you could add her ? Sinon ~ (talk) 23:07, July 14, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 02:02, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

And your next power would be meta-concept Destruction to keep the trend on...do we seriously need power to every single possibility?

Fine, whatever.

Isn't that pretty much Mental Healing? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

Well, there you go. :p

Sorry about the nagging tone, sticky hot here and first thing I have to deal with is long message. Just had to complain... -_-; --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:55, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

I don't think we have that yet, but I also don't know if that's too specific or not Gabriel456 (talk) 12:18, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

I would not have done Canyon Manipulation without a reason, and though this may not be saying that much, I can assure you this was approved by Kuopiofi. If you still have a problem with this Canyon Manipulation power, why not take it up with him? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:04, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

I know, but you have tagged pages of mine before as canidates for deletion, which have ended up not being deleted by Kuo. Like I said he did approve of this power. Honestly, I don't care if this gets deleted, but in case this doesn't, I am going to need that edit on the Environment Manipulation page that I made to be there. I already got a warning yesterday for not adding Rural Manipulation to other pages as sub powers or variations or applications. I don't want another warning if this power somehow doesn't get deleted. Understood? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:10, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

BTW, would you say that Canyon Creation is also not needed? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:23, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

Bit too specific I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:39, July 16, 2016 (UTC)

Bit too close to CDI I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:01, July 16, 2016 (UTC)

Sounds like Limitation to Life Mastery. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:41, July 17, 2016 (UTC)

Name it Absorbing Field, make it Effect Field Projection Variation and you got a deal. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:55, July 17, 2016 (UTC)

I'd say Panmesia mainly, but could be partly resistance to mental effects. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:06, July 17, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:19, July 19, 2016 (UTC)

I never did such a thing
I never did such a thing. It was Gold D. Saint who did that brush. He did that a while ago, and Kuo saw what he did. He undid all his edits, but he did it because they were not really techniques. It is in his Gold D. Saints message wall. Also, when he undid his edits, he did NOT delete the category. So don't blame this on me sir. No need to put the hate crime on the black guy. Maxoflas (talk) 01:08, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

What does Loki have to do with this?

 * What does Loki have to do with this?
 * Loki is also a trickster god, so of course, he would do that.
 * Tell what you messaged me, to Gold D. Saint. Maxoflas (talk) 01:10, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

Also...
Also, Sage, no need to be admin when you are not. It is okay, I understand, you have a disorder, but don't let it get outta hand brush. Thank you for understanding. Really, appreciate it! Maxoflas (talk) 01:15, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I understand.
I understand, but really though, I'm just saying', Kuo did not delete the category, and messaged Gold D. Saint and told him to see what techniques are. Since he did not delete it, I though, "Oh, maybe I can help Gold D. Saint out." That is all. Maxoflas (talk) 01:37, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

Then...
Then one question.....Why did he not delete the category?!? Maxoflas (talk) 01:43, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

Property Restoration - I think we have something like this... not sure tho.

Attack Prevention - check if there's anything that gets bit too close, but otherwise sounds interesting. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, July 20, 2016 (UTC)

...
You know I can do all of that so they don't have to right? You should... Maxoflas (talk) 04:13, July 21, 2016 (UTC)

got it, banned them for good measure.

as for the power, go for it. Gabriel456 (talk) 21:37, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

Robocop is and the Nekrons are as well.
Nekrons are robotic and skeletal warriors, and Robocop DID die, and came back thanks to cybernetics. They both fit. Maxoflas (talk) 02:36, July 27, 2016 (UTC)

?
I do not understand that Robocop thing, but anyway, gimme proof about the Necrons, or I won't consider it. And I ain't givin' up till the admins say so. Proof please. Maxoflas (talk) 02:45, July 27, 2016 (UTC)

Why tell it to me? --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:27, July 27, 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

You might know me as the guy who keeps changing the Empathy page. I'd just like to know why those powers I keep changing are under "Variations" as well as "Associations". It seems to me that they should be in either one or the other, not both.

Wilson Spalding (talk) 23:40, July 27, 2016 (UTC)Wilson Spalding

OK, I see examples of Intuitive Power Replication, but what about Empathic Power Randomization? I've seen both pages and I don't see any users of both.

Wilson Spalding (talk) 23:47, July 27, 2016 (UTC)Wilson Spalding

Hi again,

I see there are examples of Empathy and Intuitive Power Replication that overlap, but what about Empathy and Empathic Power Randomization? I've looked at both pages and I do not see any examples that match. Are there any that haven't been noted on the wiki yet? Please help me understand.

Wilson Spalding (talk) 23:51, July 27, 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

I apologize if I am not clear. Let me try again.

I have not been able to find a user of Empathy that is also a user of Empathic Power Randomization. Therefore, I believe that Empathic Power Randomization should not be included with the other branches of Empathy listed in "Variations", and left to be only in "Associations". Was that a bit clearer?

Wilson Spalding (talk) 23:54, July 27, 2016 (UTC)

I get that Empathic Power Randomization is gaining power based on the user's emotions. I just don't think that it can be a branch of Empathy. Empathy is about interaction with others' emotions, not the user's emotions, which is what Empathic Power Randomization is based on. That is why I don't see how they are related. This is bolstered by the fact that, as I said before, Empathy and Empathic Power Randomization do not have any users in common.

Wilson Spalding (talk) 00:01, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

First of all, I'm not changing the page for my benefit. If you perceive it to be to my benefit, would it be all right, then, if I got someone else's opinion? That way it wouldn't be just "for my benefit".

Wilson Spalding (talk) 00:07, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

Very well, then. Let us talk to an admin so that I can get a better grasp of the rules. Do you have one in mind, or shall I find one?

Wilson Spalding (talk) 00:10, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

All right, then. I'll let you know what they tell me. Thanks anyway for trying to explain the way things work around here to me.

Wilson Spalding (talk) 00:14, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

kitchenware
pots, pans, cheese greaters, dont come under the heading of tableware, if I ask a shop attendant for table wear, she will point me towards plates, knives, forks, bowls and trays. I dont think rapunzel belongs under tableware for weilding a pan when its not really tableware.

TheRedTopHat (talk) 00:34, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

alrighty then, thanks for clearing that up. Just wanted to make sure so if I do add them to tableware proficiency, they wont get deleted off for... yeah. sorry for the hassle mate.

TheRedTopHat (talk) 00:43, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, but I would really like to hear what he says.

Wilson Spalding (talk) 01:32, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

Hi SageM,

If you haven't been notified yet, Gabriel456 has agreed with you on the matter of the mutually exclusive users between the powers. I apologize for any frustration I may have caused you. Thanks once again for standing for what is right and showing me as well.

Wilson Spalding (talk) 23:32, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:03, July 30, 2016 (UTC)

By "since we can't remove them from the pages without breaking the rules", which one you mean? --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:47, July 30, 2016 (UTC)

Didn't replacing Time and Space Manipulation combinations with Space-Time Manipulation work just fine? --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:59, July 30, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun.

Remember to add Hellhound Physiology into Associations(?). --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:36, July 31, 2016 (UTC)

Shadow/Umbrageous Swimming - have fun. Have you considered creating Elemental Swimming? I don't think we have that one yet.

Interspace Travel - might be considered special effect of Teleportation...

living inside the cores - not that I remember, but that'd be pretty specific power. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:48, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 14:16, August 1, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, do we have an Holy immunity or something like that? Tsubasa16 (talk) 00:34, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

Don't the self-manipulation powers cover that? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:59, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:06, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

how exactly is this different from Deification? Can you please expand? Gabriel456 (talk) 22:54, August 2, 2016 (UTC)

yeah, i know all of that, and still i really think the power should be renamed to Change Manipulation, or an Change Manipulation page should be make instead, since Embodiment and Manipulation are still not the same thing. Tsubasa16 (talk) 00:04, August 3, 2016 (UTC)

Bit too close to Memory Implantation in practical terms. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, August 3, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:29, August 3, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Say, can I ask you something? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:15, August 3, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, do we have the power to reflect damage, right? Tsubasa16 (talk) 22:09, August 3, 2016 (UTC)

Who did The Presence give Omnipotence to?
Who did the Presence give Omnipotence to again? I just need to know out of curiosity, cause I have been hearing some things. Maxoflas (talk) 22:51, August 3, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Maxoflas (talk) 23:00, August 3, 2016 (UTC)

Say, has Quality Manipulation/Performance Manipulation been done? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:03, August 3, 2016 (UTC)

I am not sure about Quality Enhancement, but Efficacy Manipulation, that is understandable.

What about Taboo Manipulation, which manipulates the forbidden? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:07, August 3, 2016 (UTC)

is it ultimate, what i'am saying is that:It uses intagibility to pass thorugh someone, but when passing though, it pierces the orgarms of the victim as well (literally pierces, it causes bleed and everything else), what wouldn't be possible if it was just normal intangibility, since it would just pass through without causing that kind of damage. Tsubasa16 (talk) 00:38, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

So it can use both Corporealization and Intangibility, but not at the same time? (since at the same time would be UI) Tsubasa16 (talk) 00:46, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

Elemental Bio-Tech - have fun

True-Self Suppression - don't we have something like this? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

Organic Manipulation: "The user can create, shape and manipulate everything and anything organic, both organisms and organic matter. They can create, manipulate, shape, transform, heal and/or destroy everything that lives, has lived or comes from either of the above." --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:09, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

Might want to take that Saitama/One Punch Man into his Talk-page as this is getting old really fast... --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:23, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

The way the scroll boxes are formatted now in Light Manipulation indicates all users in Literature, TV Series/Movies, and Comics are part of Mythology/Folklore. It also indicates that all users in Video Games, TCG, Cartoons, and Other are part of Manga/Anime. This is not true. The way I formatted the Users section gave each media source (Literature, TV Series/Movies, Comics, and so on) its own scroll box. That way, people won't get confused as to why, for instance, some users in Literature are under the Mythology/Folklore section. Do you believe that all users in Literature, TV Series/Movies, and Comics are part of Mythology/Folklore, and all users in Video Games, TCG, Cartoons, and Other are part of Manga/Anime?

In the future, if I believe something is not right with a page, what should I do if I want to change it? Thanks for reading.

Wilson Spalding (talk) 00:10, August 5, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:11, August 5, 2016 (UTC)

I'd say that's more a Technique than sub-power. Far too tricky.

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:57, August 5, 2016 (UTC)

That's sort of the point I am trying to make.

Wilson Spalding (talk) 05:31, August 5, 2016 (UTC)

What exactly do you do when you want to change something on a page? What process do you go through before you are able to change want you want to change? At what point does it stop becoming changing it to suit your opinion? I genuinely want to know for the future.

Wilson Spalding (talk) 05:38, August 5, 2016 (UTC)

Hi, this is ildsman213, I was just wondering why you undid my edits to the immortality page? Was something wrong?Ildsman213 (talk) 18:02, August 5, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:49, August 5, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:05, August 6, 2016 (UTC)

I think that is covered in most Physiologies/transformations by Limitation "may lose their sense of self/turn into monster".

Existence Recovery/Restoration - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:41, August 7, 2016 (UTC)

For the first one, I have no idea if either two covers that

But for the second one, go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:46, August 7, 2016 (UTC)

Existence Negation - I think it's bit too close. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:42, August 8, 2016 (UTC)

Bit too close to Divided Mind I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:46, August 8, 2016 (UTC)

Oh yeah, forgot about that. Thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:21, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

Death Manipulation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 11:20, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

I'm making a separate page for Angelic Power Negation from Divine Power Negation (according to others, angels are not divine, after all.) and I was wondering if you knew any users outside of Supernatural (which is literally all the users I got, I honestly could use someone else). any help would be appreciated Gabriel456 (talk) 22:40, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

yes, it does. thank you Gabriel456 (talk) 22:56, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

Look
Look, I did not mean to delete your message. I was changing my signature, even though, no disrespect, that message should be deleted. Stanky! (talk) 03:02, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, a lot of powers have elemental, but that has no word that say "manipulation" in it.

And if users are allowed of expressing their opinion, then I can do that by telling you that I think the power should be name changed.

G3T rekt m8! Stanky! (talk) 03:10, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Also...
Also, who is we? There is no "we" in this. What are you talking about? Stanky! (talk) 03:14, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

I'm pretty Sure
I'm pretty sure that I was told I can change Elemental Manipulation before, but, that ain't the case. This is about Its variations. All variants have no "elemental", just "element". Just keepin' the theme goin'. After all, I have did this with other powers. By the way, "we" is not an accurate statement. Why? Because "we" said so. And, if all is involved in a page, why does everyone not contribute, Mr.Omniscient? Rekt m8.Stanky! (talk) 03:23, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

I know right? That dude is referring to me, aka, you! That is so cool! Just be sure not to change the names again. Stanky! (talk) 04:48, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah bro, if you change the name again, Sage, it will be changed back, so do not do it again. Stanky! (talk) 04:55, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

No Offense? If this is football, then you have the worst overall in the new madden. Anyway, just don't change the name again. If all the admins let it be, then you should do the same, so yeah, please don't bro, or feel the wrath of the admins. Stanky! (talk) 05:04, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Please keep it between your Talk-pages and don't argue on mine. -_- --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:10, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Life Absorption - usable --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

And allow me to spell out this....U G0T R3kT B! KUO BY HIMS SAYING TO KEEP IT BETWEEN THE TALK PAGES! GET DONE MATE! And, do not change the names again. I have told you over and over to not change it. If you do, it will get changed back. Notice how Gabe and Kuo never messed with the page. Be careful, don't play with the fire of the admins, bruh. Stanky! (talk) 05:14, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

I see you are burned from my comments. Just remember not to change the name. Stanky! (talk) 05:24, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Usable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:47, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Dependency? --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:15, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that can instantly make a key to any door, including both physical and metaphysical doors. what power it would be? Tsubasa16 (talk) 19:30, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Isn't that pretty much Elemental Embodiment? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:27, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:29, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

Transcendent Homo Superior Physiology
Why was my edit reeverted? ChocolateElemental (talk) 23:38, August 10, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, is Heaven considered an Metaphysical/Conceptual Place? Tsubasa16 (talk) 00:27, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:47, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

Say, do you have any ideas for applications and associations for a power called Circumstsnces/Situational Manipulation? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:02, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

Alright. I honestly have no strong opinions one way or another anyways. Gabriel456 (talk) 23:09, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:11, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

He got three days block, so there's that long at least.

If he starts again after the timeout, mind telling your point about Highschool DxD? That way it's much easier to slap him down if he starts it again. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:11, August 13, 2016 (UTC)

There are few powers that allow User to hide, but nothing that does specifically that as far as I can remember. Give it a go. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:15, August 13, 2016 (UTC)

Uh, this power doesn't just share visions. Rather, it makes it so one's vision is projected into the environment so that everyone can see what is going on in the eyes of the user, who may lose his or her powers of sight (but can still see nornally), but the others can openly see in the environment. It is mnore of an environmental power than just shared vision or Vision Manipulation, as Shared Vision affects a number of people while this power includes everyone around the user who see the user's vision as part of the environment. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:26, August 14, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:16, August 14, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 13:10, August 14, 2016 (UTC)

Marking is too specific, try to expand the idea. For example there's Metamagic Feat in AD&D that allows caster to make spell contagious so it keeps casting itself again and again every time there's target near that fits that spells conditions for several days. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:09, August 14, 2016 (UTC)

Infobox image widths
Hey hey :) I was just writing you a message when yours came in.

It is an absolute goal of mine to try to get you portable infoboxes that look as much like what you have now as is possible. So nothing in MediaWiki:Wikia.css has been changed aside from that having to do with these portable infoboxes. I normally create a file called MediaWiki:Infoboxes.css where I can work with the general infobox code itself and not create a lot of changes in the history of Wikia.css. But I saw that the general portable infobox CSS was already in your Wikia.css, so I figured that you guys already knew that code was there. I've tried to leave notes every so many revisions that explain what I've been doing.

As for the infoboxes themselves, I think you were concerned about them having a static width. I've been working really hard to make sure that the infoboxes didn't change the look of the wiki, and I think you'll find that the results at User:CzechOut/Infobox example now take your concerns to heart.

I'd really appreciate it if you could take a look and tell me what you think. — CzechOut 21:16, August 14, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:24, August 14, 2016 (UTC)

We do have power that allows one to program other powers, based on Itachi's thing.

Use Empowerment? Can't remember if we have anything close to that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:19, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

Infobox caption size
I think you may have just been seeing a browser-specific thing there, particularly if you were using Firefox. I've checked in Safari and Chrome and there was no perceptible difference in font-size there. Nevertheless, I've bumped up the size a bit, per your suggestion. — CzechOut 04:36, August 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * I think it'd be helpful at this point if you could show me via a screenshot what you're seeing, cause it's really not happening on my end. — CzechOut 04:42, August 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * Wait just a second. Are you talking about the actual data line of Power/Ability to: and manipulate fire? If so, that's easily fixed, as well. — CzechOut 04:49, August 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * Both boxes in the screnshot are exactly 305px wide. I'm looking at the code to deliver the both and they both specify 305px. So the boxes themselves cannot be different widths. Maybe you mean something different when you say "smaller"?


 * The new boxes are shorter, slightly, because the line-height -- the distance between the lines of text -- has been compressed to a more standard height. I could return that to the old height, if you'd like. Also, there is no white space at the very bottom of the box (under the word "to"). Would you like that returned?


 * Also, please understand that when I make a change, you'll need to clear your browser's cache to actually see it. And there are times when that can take a few minutes. — CzechOut 05:05, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

Adaptable power maybe, something that could be programmed with the general goal and then allow it to figure/adapt to get there.

Solty from Solty Rei - bit too specific I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:44, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

go for it. Gabriel456 (talk) 11:23, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a character that is an:Soulless Ghost, do that count as an Paradox? Tsubasa16 (talk) 17:44, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

Infoboxes
Sage, I'm really not trying to ruin your work. I am trying very hard to accommodate you and the other users here. But it's important to understand that you are asking for the infobox to do something that's precisely opposed to the normal portable infobox code. So as we continue to mould this thing, it would be very surprising indeed if we did not encounter some bumps along the road.

As I've told Kuo, the reason that the caption is limited in width is so that the box will be able to contract and expand across the range of sizes that Kuo suggested. It's not set up to be infinitely variable, but changeable within a certain range.

If the caption were unrestricted, then it would extend past the image, and the infobox would grow beyond whatever setting you had specified for its imagewidth. And then there would be unattractive whitespace around the pidcture.

I did test the infobox on a number of randomly selected pages before offering it to you guys. But I never encountered one with a caption this large. I think it's very much an exception, but obviously I will attempt to discover additional solutions to the caption problem.

All that said, I really do thank you for your feedback. It's helped shape this design. Please know that I will continue to provide what we might consider a "warranty period" for several weeks into the future. — CzechOut 17:54, August 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * There's no reason to stop making pages because of one tiny little styling detail in an infobox. Whatever information you enter will still be there as the infoboxes are reshaped. Please don't let this slow your editing one tiny bit. — CzechOut 18:19, August 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh and your site is very much used by people on mobile devices. In fact, you're currently in the top ten of all English wikis that would benefit from converting to portable infoboxes. — CzechOut 18:21, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

I think we have something like that, but no idea of the name. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:21, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

Infoboxes
Please have patience. Just until tomorrow. That's all I'm asking. — CzechOut 21:08, August 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for holding. :) Please teake a look at User:CzechOut/Infobox example and express any concerns about the way the caption is behaving. — CzechOut 21:43, August 15, 2016 (UTC)
 * Sage, I've been working so hard to incorporate everything you wanted. I think you'll find the infobox does now do what you want. The captions work exactly like they did on the old box. It's fully expandable and contractable. The font sizes are precisely the same. The margins to the left and bottom do not interfere with text. Please try to have an open mind. I've more than met you half way. — CzechOut 22:44, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

Infobox comparison
Hey again :) You know, I'd really like to apologise to you. Although I've been around Wikia for over a decade, I don't know that much about this wiki. I posted a few things here back in October having to do with portable infoboxes, but I didn't do any coding here until last week. I had no idea about the people that were here. So when I first arrived last week, I just went to Chat and started asking around. Your name never came up, so I didn't get in touch with you, until you reached out very late last night.

Had I know of your obvious passion for infoboxes, I would have involved you earlier. So I wanted to apologise and assure you it wasn't anything intentional.

I also wanted you to know I'm taking your input very seriously, and trying to incorporate it. As I think I've hinted before, I'm very interested in making sure that the infoboxes are as good as or better than the originals.

That's why today has been valuable. While I think you may have seen it as a mostly negative experience, I've found it helpful, healthy and just ... normal.

Without going live and being able to test this new feature, we wouldn't have known what needed fixing. I think a tremendous amount of good came out of these first few hours with the portable infobox.

That's why I'd really appreciate it if you could just take a look at this side-by-side comparison of the old boxes versus the new, and tell me where you think the PIs still need work. I'd welcome your specificity. — CzechOut 01:58, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

Music Blast - usable.

Other things, checking as I have time. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

And? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:23, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

I'm feeling bit slow today, so can you explain what you're talking about? Previewing Edited page works for me, so is this about being able to preview the infobox alone/by itself? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:55, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:32, August 16, 2016 (UTC)

Dunno. I was thinking more along the lines of fuzziness, as it is defined by this definition of it.

"difficult to perceive clearly or understand and explain precisely; indistinct or vague"

So, maybe I understood the fuzziness thing wrong? Should I call it something else? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:18, August 17, 2016 (UTC)

Infobox editing
Hey hey :) So I've checked around with our engineering staff, and the deal is this. The "classic editor" is actually deprecated. It's on its way out, cause there are a lot of modern situations it can't handle well. As staff, we haven't been required to test with it for several years. After all, it dates from the last decade, so it's pretty old and creaky. It's been so long from my memory -- my home wiki actually elected to get rid of it early this decade -- that it actually took me a little while to recognise what you had pictured. One of the things it doesn't do well -- amongst many -- are new infoboxes. It just doesn't have the code to properly recognise portable infoboxes, and engineering isn't going to invest any more time in it.

However, the newer VisualEditor works well with this new infobox. So my suggestion would be to select it in your Special:Preferences and give it a try. After working with it for a little while, you'll probably find you like it better than the so-called-but-not-really "classic editor". -- CzechOut 04:32, August 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * I've tested editing it in the new VisualEditor. I'm not seeing any errors. What errors are you seeing? -- CzechOut 04:46, August 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by "it doesn't let us check the infobox in visual editor". The picture at right shows an infobox being examined in VE. Maybe it's just that the way to do it isn't obvious? I'm so used to editing in source, it took me a second to figure it out, myself. So at the risk of telling you something you may already know: first you click on the infobox, then you click on the little icon that is then revealed in the upper right of the infobox, and you get the whole list of editable variables. -- CzechOut 04:57, August 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * I've just added another screenshot at top right, showing you "step 1" of the editing process. I hope it helps. :) -- CzechOut 05:02, August 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * I just want to make absolutely sure we're talking about the same thing. I'm not talking about the editor you get under the "visual" tab that's next to the "source" tab. I'm talking about the new visual editor. (Yes, it's very confusing that they have the same name.)


 * Please click this link and try to follow the steps I outlined above.


 * Thanks! -- CzechOut 05:36, August 17, 2016 (UTC)

Elemental/Sound Blast
Hi, I was wandering about what was wrong with my edit on Elemental Blasts. I mean those are "Sound Blasts" and when I clicked on the link in "Sound Attacks" it redirected me to the "Elemental Blast". So, what shall I do ? KyraLove (talk) 18:10, August 17, 2016 (UTC)

There seems to be talk over it in Comments, so I'll let you argue it over there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:34, August 17, 2016 (UTC)

Editing issues
Heya :) I've spent most of today test editing with our two visual editors, and I definitely see better the issues you were reporting. I've jotted down a few notes for SDPanthera which I think will also benefit you.

Now, you've said that you may have some individual problems with your computer itself. If you read what I wrote, and still cannot get the VE to work, please take some screenshots of what your results are. Also, please give links to where you failed. That way, we can examine better the problems you're having, and get you editing with the tools that actually are going to survive for a while.

Thanks again for all your patience. -- CzechOut 21:38, August 17, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the help on the Cosmic Water page. Didn't know it was because of the "px" part. Thanks for pointing that out! SDPanthera (talk) 22:04, August 17, 2016 (UTC)

Omnifarious Changes
Dear SageM,

Right so I noticed you undid my change on Omnifarious when I added Category:Appearance Alteration as a Application in the General Area, with your statement of "already covered by mimicry" and I would like to say that those too Categories are different if you check them once more,

Category:Mimicry is "To take on the attributes of a specific substance, being, or species without physical changes."

while Category:Appearance Alteration states "These are powers which alter the physical appearance of the user."

While both are very similar which I can see your point, They are indeed seperate categories and one does not "cover" the other, say for example Nemesis Form, This power involves taking on the form of others' worst fears,It is in the Category of Appearance Alteration however this power involves Shapeshifting aswell

Thanks, Looking forward to a response. CrabHermit (talk) 02:49, August 18, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, August 18, 2016 (UTC)

hey,what would you call the power to control severed limbs? Got the idea from Supernatural, in which Abaddon used a severed hand to remove the devil's trap-engraved bullet from her head.

Got any suggestions, possible users? I hope this isn't already on here.. Gabriel456 (talk) 13:23, August 18, 2016 (UTC)

Say, has this power been covered by another power from before?: Maximum Power Pushing, the ability to push one's maximum's power or limit to further levels through some mental and physical effort. Has this been done before? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:53, August 18, 2016 (UTC)

so...got any thoughts on a possible name? I want to make the power, just need a name. Asking again,since you haven't replied to me since I asked the first time Gabriel456 (talk) 00:15, August 20, 2016 (UTC)

Not necessarily, the user doesn't need to be able to remove it themselves, it just means they retain control over the limbs even when severed, such as by knives, axes, etc. Whereas AL can willingly detach their limbs.

But meh, if it'll cause trouble, I won't bother. Now that I described it, it does seem hard to differentiate them Gabriel456 (talk) 00:26, August 20, 2016 (UTC)

Correct. But even Bionicle is another example. SDPanthera (talk) 06:56, August 21, 2016 (UTC)

Might be getting bit too close to plain old Destruction. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:31, August 21, 2016 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't know if we have that power, but probably not. I mean, we have Enhanced Power Borrowing, but if I understand your power correctly, it's not the same.

If we don't have it, go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:32, August 21, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i know a user for the Omni-Corruption Power you thinking, Black Lily from VC, she can stain everything black, either literally or metaphorically, such as stain someone's heart black. and it's black as in: Evil, Wicked. Tsubasa16 (talk) 22:48, August 23, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:10, August 24, 2016 (UTC)

I command you human to shut up,you are absolutely nothing and i am supreme omnipotent,all-powerful,all-mighty,invincible and boundless being beyond everything and anything and i will be what i will be,i am not realy human,i am what i say i am.

and by the way stupid human if you belive in jesus you will burn,because he is just a pathetic human that thought he is god but he is no god but i am and if i want i can erase him without the slightest effport.

Idan647 (talk) 21:32, August 24, 2016 (UTC)

Child,I AM the rules and no one else is,i make the the ruels and no one else is just me me and meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Idan647 (talk) 21:46, August 24, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:02, August 24, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:15, August 25, 2016 (UTC)

Hello, I was wondering about a certain power that could be an application to Destruction. Since destruction is defined as the damage dealt to anything and everything to the point where it is irreparable or no longer exists, wouldn't Damage Manipulation be acceptable. That way, the user can choose how to destroy a system.Mjt017 (talk) 00:19, August 27, 2016 (UTC) mjt017

Have fun.

Any relations to Platform Creation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:48, August 28, 2016 (UTC)

Alright. I'll block him the moment he does it again. Thanks for the warning Gabriel456 (talk) 19:28, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

Chimerism --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, August 30, 2016 (UTC)

Scientifically speaking, particles makes up anything and everythin in the universe, which includes molecules and atoms.

i didn't know it was removed by the admins,i thought it was someone else that removed it.

<p style="font-weight:normal;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;font-size:14px;line-height:22px;">Fixed Version

<p style="font-weight:normal;margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;font-size:14px;line-height:22px;">Scientifically speaking, particles makes up anything and everythin in the universe, which includes molecules and atoms.

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:22px;">i didn't know it was removed by the admins,i thought it was someone else that removed it.

<p style="font-weight:normal;font-size:14px;line-height:22px;">DarkWraths (talk) 04:55, August 30, 2016 (UTC)

Artificial Intelligence Lord Physiology
I actually really do mean it. I had some ideas in mind for it but don't know if it's stretching things too far.

For some examples (if you do want to make it), I've got Cortana as of Halo 5: Guardians, the aforementioned Skynet (you can use that picture), and I'm not sure what else.

GZilla311 (talk) 21:59, September 3, 2016 (UTC)

Shut the fuck up, I did not mess it up, i just rearranged it, get your facts right before accusing someone of doing something they did not do, also a simple please would have been nice, anyway I stopped, now leave it at that.

Shut the fuck up, I did not mess it up, i just rearranged it, get your facts right before accusing someone of doing something they did not do, also a simple please would have been nice, anyway I stopped, now leave it at that.

Will do. Thanks for the warning Gabriel456 (talk) 13:27, September 4, 2016 (UTC)

go for it. Gabriel456 (talk) 23:29, September 4, 2016 (UTC)

Mage series
The Mage Series' the Leanhaun Sidhe have both fairy, succubi and vampiric characteristics so don't remove them until you do your research. kek

Imouto 18:09, September 5, 2016 (UTC)Imouto-tan

And I should jump in to fix things? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:31, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

Got a link? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:06, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 20:21, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

For Absolute Attack Doesn't matter if it's was a reduced power (Saitama held back his strength, he was heavily implied to have huge amount of control on his own strength), Boros survived because of his healing factor, Garou the same thing after he tried to block Saitama's held back punch (which he failed to and ended up losing the arm, had the regenerate it, and resorted on dodging all of Saitama's attacks) All that limitations is on Absolute Attack list.

You're clearly underestimating Saitama instead by sticking to his feats instead of sticking with his lore.

--DarkWraths (talk) 06:26, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

Full strength does matter, and an Absolute Strength user does need proper restraint or else they would destroy the environment around them and Saitama has shown that kind of restraint MANY times, we've been over this and you're repeating the same debunked argument.

The weakness of absolute attack is that those with regenerative healing factor and reforming can survive it, just having an unblockable attack with unblockable damage (ALL of saitama's enemies took damage, a few survived the damage through regeneration) is enough to be on the list.

Evil Natural Water is not immune to ALL attacks, it's only made up of water. It's not just incapacitated, it lost most of it's body due to one of Saitama's normal (restrained/held back) punch and was reformed into a pretty tiny entity (this shows it's NOT immune to all attacks and if Saitama were to try to punch it again, it would most likely not be "alive". It was also greatly weakened from that punch as it took days to reform into a small water entity which was eaten by Pig God and was confirmed deceased) it didn't block that attack so Saitama still deserves to be in that Absolute Attack list. One of Saitama's serious punch was able to overpower Boros' energy beam (it's Energy, that's a pretty impressive feat to be able to affect something that isn't really physical) and the air of his punch defeated Boros (didn't even land a punch, the air did it for him) and split the entire atmosphere.

One of Saitama's punch (didn't went all out, though it's suspected to be one of his "serious series", though I don't think it's that serious) was calculated to be above nuke level, and a nuke itself is already more than enough to vaporise a body of water (even at a size of something like Evil Natural Water) so one of Saitama's "Serious" strike can definitely kill it (it's on dragon level, Boros and Garou was confirmed to be above dragon level threat. The threats on the canon both determines how dangerous the enemies and how powerful it is overall).

Saitama still should deserve to be in the list, other characters have feats that prevents them from becoming absolute yet they're still in absolute lost because of author statements and lore. Why should Saitama be an exception to that?

Good day to you to.

--DarkWraths (talk) 13:33, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

Cosmic Creation seems more of Create things on cosmic scale rather than create astronomical objects especfically. Tsubasa16 (talk) 18:34, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:04, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

Hello SageM can you explain to me what is absolute existence and what the user can do with this?

and what is self-omnipotence and autopotence? Idan647 (talk) 16:51, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

Exactly. Just got sick and tired of it. Gabriel456 (talk) 18:44, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

We can only hope... Gabriel456 (talk) 20:53, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

are you sure we should count the Men in Black? I mean, yes, they erased J's data, but not through some superpower. They did it all manually through computers, no? Gabriel456 (talk) 20:59, September 7, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, if you say so Gabriel456 (talk) 21:04, September 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * 1) Sounds doable. If he isn't the character you're talking about, I think Bender of Futurama may count. In order to replicate, he ate matter (i.e, paintings, food, etc) to create smaller copies of himself.
 * 2) Go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:54, September 8, 2016 (UTC)

Highest level regenerations come to mind, but aside those... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:08, September 8, 2016 (UTC)

Omnireplication doubts
Hey, one Omnireplication user can duplicate itself endlessly, but these clones will be himself, the user himself, that is, the same mind and the same consciousness, right? You can give me some examples are just that? Vitorriq (talk) 18:32, September 8, 2016 (UTC)

We have some reflective powers, don't we...

Soul Bound Entity and Spiritual Symbiosis were bit too similar. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:39, September 8, 2016 (UTC)

It's be passive/constantly active power? Something like Dermal Armor instead of creating/forming the defense temporarily? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:09, September 8, 2016 (UTC)

Usable. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:15, September 8, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe but some users of soul bound entity aren't truly have a symbiotic bound, take Dean Winchester and Amara The Darkness, there bound and they still are and but they don't have spiritual symbiosis bound. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

Probably not, I think neutral means someone is neither good or evil Gabriel456 (talk) 00:51, September 9, 2016 (UTC)

so I don't know if there's a power for it, unless you're willing to make a Good and Evil Embodiment page. Gabriel456 (talk) 00:53, September 9, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:20, September 11, 2016 (UTC)

Fucking hell, what is wrong with you, stop sending me messages, I have stopped, and I already stated a reson for my edit, how is it messed up, I actually fixed it.

Okay, I fixed it, I am pretty sure, I would make an edit, without "messing up the page, thank you for telling me this, I will make sure I will only make Necessary edits from now on.

Firstly, I canged the photo back,

Secondly, Limitless Stamina means

possess limitless physical energy, stamina and vitality and never tire

The more and more mad he gets, the stronger he gets, so he will get more energy and stamina. So he can go on all of his life fighting if he is mad, The Hulk's body counteracts fatigue poisons that build up in his muscles during physical activity. Much like his vast physical strength, the Hulk's stamina does increase as he becomes angrier. In an enraged state, the Hulk was able to successfully stalemate the warrior's madness Thor (a state which temporarily enhances Thor's strength and stamina to 10 times that of his normal state in exchange for adversely affecting his intelligence

That is one source, it may be a typo,

im not saying i know everything, but i know that the user possess limitless physical energy, stamina and vitality and (never tire).

dont forget stamina can vary over time with hulk his anger needs to progess to show higher feets of strength, stamina, speed, endurance, durability/invulnrability.

<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Calibri,Arial,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:medium;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;">sources such as

<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Calibri,Arial,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:medium;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;">(He further proves that when he rains nearly <span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Calibri,Arial,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:medium;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;">3000 blows onto a mystic barrier that thwarts Dr. Strange. And he is (ISN'T EVENM TIRED) in Defenders)

<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Calibri,Arial,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:medium;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;">(He doesn't even really require sustenance -- he's hidden out on a frigate for three entire weeks in Incredible Hulk)

<span style="color:rgb(38,38,38);font-family:Calibri,Arial,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:medium;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;">(Hulk can leap endless miles (WITHOUT) being (TIRED)

<span style="color:rgb(44,46,48);font-family:-apple-system,".SFNSText-Regular",BlinkMacSystemFont,"SanFrancisco",Roboto,"SegoeUI",Oxygen,Ubuntu,Cantarell,"FiraSans","DroidSans","HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,"LucidaGrande",sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:normal;line-height:20px;">as long as hulk is enraged Hulk will never run out stamina - Peter David

i dont want to argue, but im just saying if butterball and madcap are on the users list, hulk has before shown their feats aswell.

i hope you understand why i am saying this

that is terms of strength not stamina,

secondly that is once, <span style="color:rgb(44,46,48);font-family:-apple-system,".SFNSText-Regular",BlinkMacSystemFont,"SanFrancisco",Roboto,"SegoeUI",Oxygen,Ubuntu,Cantarell,"FiraSans","DroidSans","HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,"LucidaGrande",sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:normal;line-height:20px;">Herc has more power

<span style="color:rgb(44,46,48);font-family:-apple-system,".SFNSText-Regular",BlinkMacSystemFont,"SanFrancisco",Roboto,"SegoeUI",Oxygen,Ubuntu,Cantarell,"FiraSans","DroidSans","HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,"LucidaGrande",sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:normal;line-height:20px;">Hulk has more strength

Usable, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:39, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

isn't that essentially Quantity Manipulation? Gabriel456 (talk) 23:43, September 18, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 18:46, September 19, 2016 (UTC)

not sure about the first one, no clue where they would fit. As for the second, go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 13:08, September 20, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 11:09, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page.

Just a little pre-emptive measure to ensure Perfection isn't repeatedly messed on while I'm getting some sleep. Please take it to Talk-pages and figure it between each other before Editing again. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:38, September 21, 2016 (UTC)

You're totally wrong about Najimi. " With perfection there is nothing the wielder can't do and achieve." Najimi totally doesn't fall in this definition. Not only she was unable to defeat Iihiko, none of her skills worked against him. She also admitted that she wouldn't be able to defeat Medaka, because of her status as a main character. She was also sealed for a long time with Kumagawa's Book Maker.

This is a lot of flaws. Perfection user has NO flaws. There's nothing you can do about that really... Solipsius (Dreamer) (talk) 12:48, September 22, 2016 (UTC)

Ssy, I am thinking of making a power that allows one to control their height or body part length without any stretching or bending effects. Do you know a user who can do this? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 13:15, September 22, 2016 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:47, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

done. Gabriel456 (talk) 19:53, September 23, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, September 25, 2016 (UTC)

Picture Change
So whats the problem now, I was revamping the image because the current one looks old and blurry. Is that a problem? Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 07:11, September 26, 2016 (UTC)

HAHAHA!!! Listen Sage I'm not sure who you think you are but talking to me that way is not going to get me to stand down. I don't know if this site is some kind of refuge for you because you have such a miserable life or if its just you have a problem with me but your becoming very annoying. Anybody with eyes will tell you that picture is an improvement one user already told me so.

Now I am going to keep the change and you go cry to Kuopiofi about it as per usual. Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 07:34, September 26, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you SageM for the answer.Marco9250 (talk)

What the name of the wikia that has info on Bellcross not being sealed.Marco9250 (talk)

Usable, tho name might need some work. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:22, September 28, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:18, September 28, 2016 (UTC)

Getting bit too specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:46, September 28, 2016 (UTC)

As in time travel during dreams or time travel via dreams? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:13, September 28, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun with all three. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:09, September 30, 2016 (UTC)

go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 17:03, October 1, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 13:10, October 2, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Need some help
I just messaged Staff about this user and hopefully they'll get back to me with in the next two days Imouto 03:20, October 4, 2016 (UTC)Imouto-tan

you know, it would've helped a bit if you gave me the links like you did with Merrystar and Imuoto. Not to worry, I blocked those on the list that weren't already blocked. Gabriel456 (talk) 14:07, October 4, 2016 (UTC)

Blocking Users
Hi. It looks like the local admins are blocking the accounts. If they wish to ask about an IP block they may do so through Special:Contact; however it is easy to change IPs and simply continuing to block and ignore is also fine. -- <font color="Blue">Wendy (<font color="Blue" size="1">talk ) 03:29, October 6, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:11, October 6, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, I think you forgot to remove Dr. John Dolittle from the list of users in Zoolingualism since he's a real life user of an animal-related power too? -_- --Chris Urena (talk) 20:01, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 21:46, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Since you appear to have time now, describe to be Lumiere's best feat with her particle manipulation?

--DarkWraths (talk) 23:20, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

That's it? That's her best feat with Particle Manipulation? I thought she has some impressive feats up her sleeves from having such a powerful ability like Particle Manipulating, like manipulating the universe for example, but if reconstructing her body is all she does then even Molecule Man outclasses her feat-wise.

--DarkWraths (talk) 00:51, October 9, 2016 (UTC)

By the way, I'm not saying she doesn't belong to particle manipulation page since she obviously does, but based of the feats you described to me, she isn't that impressive when compared to other powerful matter manipulators like Molecule Man.

--DarkWraths (talk) 00:52, October 9, 2016 (UTC)

"Also particles are even smaller then molecules, so its not really a good idea to compare Lumiere's powers to molecule mans." Well, I'm not really comparing there powers, I'm actually comparing both their feats they've done with their power. Lumiere has reconstructed her body an to a particle level and maybe manipulate particles at a distance (she still doesn't seem impressive to me as she got killed by Dvergr and got her abilities absorbed, and required outside help to be recreated again), but Pre-recon Molecule Man has done things like reconstructing An entire galaxy, repairing an entire multiverse to even battle Pre-retcon Beyonder (an extremely powerful multiverse like reality warper) on a near equal footing. Despite his name, Molecule Man isn't restricted at a molecular level, heck he has feats that says other wise. He's even in the Subatomic Manipulation users list, so implying that Molecule Man's power is restricted at molecular level isn't a great idea when his feats says otherwise.

So yeah, based on Lumiere's feats you described to me, Molecule Man beats her Feat-Wise, but Lumiere has him beat in power potential.

--DarkWraths (talk) 01:46, October 9, 2016 (UTC)

Hakaishin Physiology
Hey man, thanks for your support in defending the page. I don't know what they were thinking regarding the name change, there is a page Yokai Physiology for that matter. To be honest, those who created a page should have complete control over it, next to the admins, or something. ShenLong Kazama (talk) 09:09, October 14, 2016 (UTC)

He is kinda vandalizing the page though. :/ ShenLong Kazama (talk) 05:38, October 15, 2016 (UTC)

It has all the important information. And everything i added is part of the occupation if you wanna call it that. And what's wrong with adding powers that have been displayed more than once. :) PS: i didn't threat him, i'm just not okay with deleting infos that are part of this power. ShenLong Kazama (talk) 05:47, October 15, 2016 (UTC)

Bit too subjective I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:39, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

Needs very good explaining and details on how it would work, but have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:57, October 19, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 14:43, October 19, 2016 (UTC)

Hey could you help me find Bo Staff Profiecency, as I can't seem to find it, does it even exist Sinon ~ (talk) 17:12, October 20, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:39, October 20, 2016 (UTC)

Greetings. I put both Hermes and The Muses in Science Embodiment because they are gods of the sciences in Greek Mythology. Gods tend to embody the aspects they rule over. That is why I put them as Science Embodiment. Hermes is considered not the divine messenger/herald, but also a god of commerce, language, sciences and intelligence. The Muses are the goddesses of the arts and sciences. That's all I'm saying since a lot of other Embodiment users are gods and goddesses who rule over their aspects. Kusarigama (talk) 03:00, October 21, 2016 (UTC)Kusarigama

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:45, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

"Users of this power embody a destructive natural or artificial force akin to typhoons and earthquakes. Though their actions appear evil and unjustified, they are a naively natural act like breathing", now where in this it says they are not considered as living, dead, or amortal? They embody the concept just like any other Power Manifestation and nothing more. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 14:45, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:01, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

re: Enhanced Resistance
No, because it's not just physical damage. My intention is that it's a lesser form of stuff like Contaminant Immunity, Poison Immunity, Vampirism Immunity, etc. Smijes08 (talk) 21:40, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i think i have an known place for your Boundless World Creation, the World of the Gods from Valkyrie crusade, it is stated that it: continues beyond the sky. It is endless. The World of the Gods goes on forever. Tsubasa16 (talk) 22:12, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

How would it differ from Alternate Reality Creation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Compared to Universe Creation/Multiverse Creation/Omniverse Creation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:25, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Doable, but remember to make the differences clear. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:22, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 15:42, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Is the Absolute Access just meant to say the usee needs "certain powers" to help exit from a location? So the potential to access all places is there but they may require additional help. Like if I entered a spatial-time lock location, I have the ability to access other locations but I can not exit said location because I lack the power? So the potential is there just a lack of a certain power? Mike Snow34 (talk) 16:25, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

sorry, but I have to agree with Tsubasa on this Gabriel456 (talk) 15:47, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

Still don't change the fact that Afterlife Guardian is better as it covers all afterlives, and while the underworld is the most commom afterlife with a guardian, it doesn't mean it's the only one in fiction that has one. Tsubasa16 (talk) 18:04, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

you're quiet wrong about that, actually, Valkyrie Crusade itself has a Heaven's guardian, who is, ironically, the very personification of the heavens'gate. Tsubasa16 (talk) 18:08, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

if your intention was doing a only Underworld centered guardianship, then you really shouldn't have putted on the capabilites and also called of the power as Afterlife Guardian, as i said, not only the underworld has a guardian, Hell sometimes has a guardian too. also, as i said, there is indeed characters in fiction that are guardians of other afterlives other than Underworld. Tsubasa16 (talk) 18:15, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

Her role being unnecesarry or not does not change the fact she is Heaven's guardian anyway. also, Underworld is not the only afterlife that commonly has a guardian, the Hell, who is not the same as the underworld. generally has a guardian as well. Tsubasa16 (talk) 18:26, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

Well, at least you two took your argument from my Talk-page...

Attribute/Trait Manifestation - needs better name, but otherwise go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:08, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

hey sage, i'am planning on creating the actual Meta Transcendence power, the ability to transcend everything. would you happen to have any user for it? the only one i can think of it's Kami Tenchi. Tsubasa16 (talk) 21:11, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

Alpha Reality is just one page among thousands of others, and each writer is free to say "nope" ^ ^;

DYBAD (talk) 21:35, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

it was indeed one of the names i was thinking for the also called, actually. you're suggesting i should leave Meta Transcendence as it is now and make the power to transcend eveything with the name Omni Transcendence? Tsubasa16 (talk) 21:53, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

As long as the links Neocarleen adds work, he can continue. I've send him post to that effect. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:47, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

Of all the Edits only Remote Materialization shows real mistakes/mess, Onmoraki Physiology has infobox problems but I can't be certain if that was on purpose or accident, Habitable Anatomy... well, aside the links I still can't figure what the changes were, aside that they show as changed.

On the whole, nothing I see that would justify making him stop completely. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:16, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:48, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:56, October 27, 2016 (UTC)

Essentially Ability Creation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, October 28, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:59, October 28, 2016 (UTC)

Don't we have something like this? Could be partial thing... --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:31, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Go ahead with it, if there's power that does the same thing people will tell it pretty soon. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:42, October 29, 2016 (UTC)

Treachery Inducement --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:40, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:03, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Realmente no sé nada, soy nuevo.

Creation Transcendence
How's it goin', Sage? ^^

Anyway, I wanted to discuss a power I've been ruminating over since DYBAD gave his feedback on Origin Transcendence.

I'm still deciding whether the power will be a replacement for O.T. or just a variation of Conceptual Transcendence.It could even be a possible mixture of the two.

The power, as the title states, is called Creation Transcendence - it allows the user to "transcend their nature as creations of another being" or "transcend their creator's influence". I know it sounds like a carbon copy of O.T. but it's different in the fact that the user transcends the concept or state of being a creation, they don't become their own creator, they simply rise above the need for one.

So, this is the very basic overview of the power and I'm still working on the rough draft, so I would appreciate some feedback. ^^ -- The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 04:15, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Considering that Sea of Corruption ends up turning the environment into actively poisonous for the beings adapted to the polluted one may give Limitation for this. Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:18, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Estoy tratando de mejorar la página agregando todo el aumento

Soy nuevo en esta página, por lo tanto, no bien editar

Usable idea, but name needs some doing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Sounds good, go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:14, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Wait... if Ultimate Regeneration shouldn't be added into Absolute Condition as an applicative power, why does the Ultimate Regeneration article say that it's a subpower of Absolute Condition? I guess I need to remove that probably. ChocolateElemental (talk) 21:08, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

You're deleting them? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:37, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Doesn't sound like opposite of Denial Embodiment to me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:31, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:42, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, November 8, 2016 (UTC)

Wouldn't Ozpin be a user of Defense Mechanism, i'm sure when he fights Cinder he uses sort of defense shield 18:28, November 8, 2016 (UTC)

Science Embodiment
Greetings. Hope you are well. I wanted to ask about about the possibility of adding a user to the Science Embodiment page. Since the previous examples I added last time did not meet the standard, I did a little more digging and I think I found a good choice: Thoth. He has been associated with logic, magic and mystery throughout Egyptian lore and belief. Generations of Egyptians and even Greeks would see him as the creator of philosophy, science (astronomy, astrology, mathematics, medicine, botany), reading and writing. The Egyptian gods were often seen as representative of aspects of the universe. What do you think? Kusarigama (talk) 21:45, November 8, 2016 (UTC)

No, it's not. It's under Nigh Omnipotent Abilities, and even then, I see no reason why it can't be in both sections, as it fits in both. Gabriel456 (talk) 21:51, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Actually most only consider themselves universal or multiversal, and yes the omnilock power would be impossible.--Armyeater (talk) 05:56, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun, tho you might want to ignore/remove the intuitions that are overly specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:21, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

I fixed it
Hey I fixed Electricity Mimicry and now it should be back to normal Imouto 02:59, November 11, 2016 (UTC)Imouto-tan (Talk)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

As a preventive measure:

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page.

Please read the comments on Absolute Strength about Saitama and take the argument over Saitama/Absolute Strength to Talk-pages/Comments instead of going for the repeated Editing of the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:01, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Absolute Immortality edit; if those are the rules then God should be removed, because He is a real life example.

The thing is seeing as how he hasn't been disproved (because he is real) and myth means 'proven not real.--Armyeater (talk) 22:20, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Oh well, I tried to convince you; you'll be singing a different tune in the next life.--Armyeater (talk) 22:33, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 19:55, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

In Fusion Zamasu's page it's said that he was killed though. it was because Future Zamasu's immortal body fused with Black's mortal body, what nerfed his immortal in the process. Tsubasa16 (talk) 04:21, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

That's also what i probably think that happended, but since the next episode preview literally showed him fading away and then not showed him anymore in the preview at all...... Tsubasa16 (talk) 04:33, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Does he need to eat/sense the truffles or does it happen when he is just near them? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:39, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

I'd go with Association. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:02, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Turtle Physiology
Greetings. Hope you are well. I had a question about two to of the Reptilian Physiology powers: Tortoise Physiology and Turtle Physiology. Turtle Physiology describes sea turtles; they live in the ocean. Tortoise Physiology describes tortoises; they live solely on the land. There are regular turtles that travel in water and also live on land. Could it be possible to have the Turtle Physiology changed to Sea Turtle Physiology and have the Turtle Physiology describe the amphibious ones to make it less confusing? It's like sea turtles: purely marine, turtles: amphibious, tortoises: terrestrial. Or at least that's how I see it. What do you think? Kusarigama (talk) 01:30, November 14, 2016 (UTC)

Did you watch season 2 of Hero: 108?

This Is one of Jumpy's new powers.

That was never stated to be a qualification for the ability on the page.

I just checked it.

So if you don't mind, I'd like Jumpy to be added back to the List of users.

I did read the page, that isn't worded like a qualification at all.

But whatever, I'll Just add Jumpy to the other page then.

My Mistake then.

Thanks For adding Jumpy to the other page!

He was appearing in the present simply because he was becoming one with the universe 7, and that would include the universe's 7 space-time as well. while it is possible that if he continued to spread he would possibly infect the other universes as well, he didn't, as he didin't even became one with the universe 7 completely before being erased. so maybe i think he is more suited as Ontopathogenesis rather than Reality or Universal Embodiment, actually. Tsubasa16 (talk) 22:31, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry
Portalman123 (talk) 22:11, November 22, 2016 (UTC)Sorry about the while almighty thing, got a little confused

Granny Weatherwax does something similar in Maskerade by catching sword barehanded and then accepting the wound only after she's back to home (week later at least). --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:57, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:06, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Seriously...
This whole Saitama nonsense is getting real old. It never stops.RnR (talk) 05:16, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

A similar event did occur in the web comic with the much weaker Garou however.--Armyeater (talk) 05:22, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Is this about Saitama or change in Level definitions? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:44, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

My mistake, it was used by Psykos against Tornado in chapter 62 I believe.--Armyeater (talk) 05:53, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Vote Now
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Absolute_Strength#comm-245917

To settle this once and for all Imouto 15:00, November 26, 2016 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Even normal human can snap their own bones by muscle strength alone, if they use the full muscle power/potential. That happens usually under pressure or otherwise impaired, there's a reason insane/druggies are dangerous for others and themselves. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:17, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

re: Racial Telepathy
Ah, so there are some valid users. Smijes08 (talk) 21:43, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Usable but needs clear description. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:36, November 27, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

As far as I know this power has similar names and among them is empowerment.

Fallen Angel
He is based off of Lucifer do you need it to explicitly say he is a fallen angel it is well implied. Also even if you go with that logic chaos mode is definitely him fallen so either way he is still fallen --Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 05:56, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

It says he descended to the ancient digital world. Descended means to go down. Down from where, heaven also it says Compared to Lucemon Chaos Mode and Lucemon Shadowlord Mode, this form represents the original angelic Lucifer in Abrahamic mythology. Basically represents him before the fall. Chaos mode is the fall. --Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 06:04, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

True I tried to get that descending part over on you because its so obvious that chaos mode is fallen. If you notice I did not add the regular Lucemon to the page. Honestly your just so annoying I sometime just say things to get you to leave me alone.--Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 06:21, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

Well this all started because you said chaos mode wasn't fallen but as usual you were wrong and I was right so you did not make some grand point and this could have all been avoided. I seriously think SageM you have to be in the age range of 9-12 if not u really need to get some help man.--Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 06:32, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

Getting way too specific there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:20, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:48, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

Say, do you happen to know a user for a power called Sterility Inducement? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:49, December 3, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:59, December 3, 2016 (UTC)

so really thing that logic manipulation does not work on conceptual transendence

Could you separate Shapeshifting Users Cartoons from Cartoons/Television box? This is the only power where those two are combined into one (that I know of) and I'd do it myself if I trusted my knowledge of the series more... -_-; --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:18, December 10, 2016 (UTC)

Question
Something I've been thinking about recently. I previously listed Goku under Enhancement Calling due to his usage of the Kaioken... but now that I think about it, I think it might be more along the lines of Physical Augmentation.

What do you think? Smijes08 (talk) 02:10, December 12, 2016 (UTC)

Hello there. Do you happen to know a user for a power I plan to make called Compound Fusion, which is the opposite of Compound Fission and fuses all the parts of something into its whole form? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:06, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but did you get my last message? Do you know anyone who is a user of "Compound Fusion", which is the opposite of Compound Fission? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:30, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:33, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Multi-Shapeshifting? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:16, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Undead Demon
Me ignore proof. I gave you the proof from the monster manual a newer book than the one you cited from and it clearly list him as an undead demon lord.

No I am not a fan but clearly you are not either because you didn't even know Orcus and Tenebrous were the same being. Your trying to act like you know when the wiki and the new edition Monster manual clearly state he is an undead demon lord.

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:07, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I was unnecessarily harsh previously ^ ^; The picture I added is certainly newer and sharper-looking, and honestly it fits the explicit description of Tenebrous better than the official artwork itself (which is kinda weird). Let's just see what other users think about it, if the majority considers the previous one is better then I'll just follow along. Sounds better than a neverending undoing war anyhow ^ ^; DYBAD (talk) 00:23, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

Well, Wikias are a very collective/cooperative work by nature, so it would be good if users felt they have some say in the matter, rather than having things systematically decided for them. Since there's really not much at stake here, it seems a good opportunity to offer them this chance. DYBAD (talk) 00:34, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

Hey, I am planning to do that Dimensional Border Manipulation power tomorrow. Any objections? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:41, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:44, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

Elemental Sealing? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:25, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

Cycle Transcendence Users
Im not familiar with Valkyrie Profile so I might be missing something but how is Lezard a user I looked up his page and I don;t see anything that suggest he has this level of power. --Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 08:00, December 18, 2016 (UTC) Got it. That definitely qualifies.--Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 08:09, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

Omni-Communication
Oh. I see.

Well, there's over 7000 pages on this site. Not surprising I didn't know about that one. Smijes08 (talk) 10:28, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

Like what exactly? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:36, December 19, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:44, December 19, 2016 (UTC)

1. Spatial Imprisonment - have fun.

2. Imaginary/Fantasy Properties Manipulation - needs good explanation, but otherwise go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:35, December 19, 2016 (UTC)

Say, do you know any applications and associations for Skill Adaptation, which is like Reactive Adaptation, but for skills instead of powers? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:33, December 21, 2016 (UTC)

Wouldn't say opposite, but otherwise go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:28, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Say, you don't mind if I do the power Past Borrowing, do you? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:26, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

Got any users? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:32, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

Is it possible to use users for powers from webcomics here? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:25, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:27, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 02:23, December 30, 2016 (UTC)

Cambion Question
Is Near-Demonic Cambions evil, Balanced Cambions neutral, and Near-Mortals Good? Because I've been asked that it all "d epends on what level, near-mortals are almost always good, balanced go both ways, and near-demons are usually evil." Is that all true? ChocolateElemental (talk) 00:42, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

High School DxD Wiki
I send you to High School DxD Wiki. J.J. Chambers (talk) 02:00, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

i believe some of the users for your Wish Manipulation are the Fairy Council from the The Fairly OddParents. Tsubasa16 (talk) 01:55, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

Perfection Inducement/Flawless Creation/Upgrading Touch - too specific

Consumptive Restoration/Repairing - usable --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:31, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

go for all three Gabriel456 (talk) 16:46, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

Fundamental Aspects/Elements Manipulation - gets bit too close to existing powers, so no.

Wish Manipulation - Miracle Manipulation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:25, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

Doesn't your first message boils down to "almost like these, except"? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:47, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 17:03, January 1, 2017 (UTC)

hey Sage, what power would be the power to embody the akashic records (or something similar)? Tsubasa16 (talk) 21:06, January 1, 2017 (UTC)

Resurrection Augmentation/Resurrection Empowerment? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:16, January 1, 2017 (UTC)

Event Sealing- usable

Layered Reality- I think we may have something similar... --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:47, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

Doable but needs good explanation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:29, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

hey sage, i'am planning to do a power called Destiny/Fate Aspect Manifestation, i've already have three aspects, Inevitability, Beginning and Conclusion/End. but i still need some more, do you have any ideas of another aspects of fate? Tsubasa16 (talk) 18:25, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

Hey, Sage, would Lorelei also be a user of Purpose Inducement, another power I plan to make? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:30, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

So I guess your answer is no? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:47, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

Okay then. Thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:52, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

Already covered by Omnificence. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:51, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

So if this is "the power to create the creator", what does that make the User? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:24, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

where do it says that <span style="color:rgb(45,45,45);font-size:12.32px;font-weight:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">Ananta-Shesha created Brahman? the max i could find said that either Brahman is simply one of it's name or that: <span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:normal;"> when it <span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:normal;">uncoils, time moves forward and creation takes place; when he coils back, the universe ceases to exist. also he does not seem to be that impressive as he is merely an servant and aspect of Vishnnu. Tsubasa16 (talk) 06:13, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

Shesha is <span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:normal;">one of the primal beings of creation, not the oldest, but one of them.

Having existed prior to something does not mean you created it.

i'am trying to find the `` He expands himself as garbhodakshayi-vishnu in the beginning of the universe to create Brahman´´ ."but again, didn't find any of this, it would be good if the source from which you takes that from is provided. also, doesn't change the fact he is said as being merely a servant and aspect of Vishnnu, thus he isn't really that impressive (not more than Vishnnu at least). Tsubasa16 (talk) 06:30, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

Well, but anyway, you cannot put Shesha as the user of Omni-Reality Creation (if Kuo let you do it), by reasons i've already pointed out (the max is would be Universe Creation/Destruction and kind of cycle embodiment, by what it's said about him). you could actually use Kami Tenchi, who created the Choushin, who in turn created the totality of existence. Tsubasa16 (talk) 06:39, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

so it would be the Origin of everything?

And neither is Shesha. possibly Vishnnu is though, as he was the one the phrase you said about creating Brahman was refering to. also i said about Kami Tenchi because of the whole ``created the creator´´ thing you said.

Also i can't see how Alpha/Omega Reality is that powerful, as the power's very description says it is merely the source reality from which all the other realities originated from. and Totality is MUCH beyond any form of reality in any sense of the word. Tsubasa16 (talk) 06:54, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

<span style="color:rgb(45,45,45);font-size:12.32px;font-weight:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">The Alpha Reality by it's very descprtion is the source or the beginning of all realities, that's literally what Alpha means. that part of the Trivia is unsuitable as it contradicts the powers's capabilites, which firmily says that the Alpha Reality is the origin of all realities, and not everything. That's the point, Totality has not a connection to everything, Totality IS eveything, including the alpha realty. guess i'am going to change the power for it to be more suitable to it's description. Tsubasa16 (talk) 07:04, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

In fact i wouldn't see any problem, i didn't say <span style="color:rgb(45,45,45);font-size:12.32px;font-weight:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">we can't have something higher then a totality, but the fact itself is that Alpha/Omni Reality is not above Totality, that's the whole point of it, Alpha Reality is the source of all realities, while Totality encompasses eveything, including the Alpha Reality and things that are completely beyond any reality at all, thus it cannot be said as being a power greater than it.

In fact, i see no problem with the power itself, just to how it is being incorretcly described as. Tsubasa16 (talk) 07:18, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

they may be connected (i never said they weren't), but this still don't means he created it though, if anything, like i said before, that Shesha is merely an alternate name of Brahman (or vice-versa). Tsubasa16 (talk) 07:43, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

well, i guess i can just remove the whole Nameless Mist and Azathoth thing. Tsubasa16 (talk) 07:52, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

oh, thanks, the only users i had though of were Demeter/Ceres and some rice goddesses. Tsubasa16 (talk) 08:21, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

If you've figured out how it works, go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:20, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

in essence isn't the Alpha Reality the Cosmic Keystone of reality anyway (as it it's their orgin AND source)?

The create the creator thing doesn't fit though, as i've already said. Tsubasa16 (talk) 20:49, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

actually, then the true creator would be the one who created the Alpha reality, not the Alpha reality itself.

also, that description may mistakenly make seem that the alpha reality created the creator of everything (which people assume as that the word creator by itself means creator of everything) and not just of realities.

it would be more correct to say that: As the user created what created reality, they may transcend it as well. Tsubasa16 (talk) 20:56, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

So basically, Power Resistance?

In any case, no, I don't think we do, so go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 00:50, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

Say, I got a power called Foolproofness, or Murphy's Law Immunity, approved. Basically, it makes it so that nothing ever goes wrong for the user. Do you see anything wrong with this idea? Be honest. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:12, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

Or Formlessness, now that someone else has told me. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:02, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

Um, please enlighten me. How is removal the same as shattering?

Other than that, we must be getting low on ideas now. LOL CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:06, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

not really, as Speed Process is: The user can manipulate the speed of any process, manipulating how fast/slow something acts/works, make things done faster without even the slightest delay or slow down. it's not reality about making a future event happen before it should, it just controls how fast/slow something acts/works within time. Tsubasa16 (talk) 03:31, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

well, they are clearly associtated, but i don't think they are the same, user of Future Antecipation does not ``teleport <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12px;font-weight:normal;">Events to different locations or time.´´ they simply ``make something happen before it should´´. they do not ``teleport and event from the future to the present´´ they ``make an event that should happen in the future happen in the present or a near future´´. Tsubasa16 (talk) 03:38, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

Any relations to Augmentation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:03, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:25, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

I don't think it is quite the same, but how about Absolute Reality Manipulation, then? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:26, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

Nigh Omniscience/Omniscience --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:52, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, then. Is Proportionality Manipulation a good one? Basically, it manipulates the relation between qualities and other characteristics. Take Newton's Second Law for example. It would take 60 newtons to accelerate a mass of 20 kilograms to 3 meters per second squared. But with this power, the user could make it that it takes 20 newtons to accelerate an object of the same mass to 3 meters per second squared. It could also manipulate how much energy is needed to boil, melt, lift and do so on to an object. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:37, January 4, 2017 (UTC)

It doesn't make one of the results happen, though, so there is that. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:56, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Sounds pretty speculative as no one really knows what would happen. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:45, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

yeah, I was getting messages a bit too much in a short amount of time, so I had to lock my talk-page for awhile. Just had to take a break from it. Gabriel456 (talk) 12:13, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:58, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

You should ask Gabriel, if he issued the warning himself you can be sure there will be consequences ^ ^

DYBAD (talk) 05:15, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 12:08, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

To be honest, this is more like Spatial Flight than Spatial Displacement, or Area Teleportation in method. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:53, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

Singularity Empowerment/Spatial Empowerment - have fun.

Concept Removal - Concept Destruction? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:55, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:11, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, the situation involved was over pretty quick. Its just that it wasnt the first time a message of mine was either ignored or not seen so I thought I'd check with another member of staff what to do in case it was the former (which now it seems the latter).

Just a minor issue, thats all.

Death horseman94 (talk) 20:12, January 8, 2017 (UTC)

Alrighty then
Okay, so I guess these were cases of not seen until too late then?

Death horseman94 (talk) 20:39, January 8, 2017 (UTC)

Maybe expand it to all forms of travel, past/future/distance/dimension... --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:07, January 8, 2017 (UTC)

Works. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:14, January 8, 2017 (UTC)

Okay. Well im glad we cleared this up. Cya around

Death horseman94 (talk) 21:22, January 8, 2017 (UTC)

Good point, go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 15:22, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

Possible Supertasking Users
So, I'm still working on finding some possible users for this power. These were the best one's I found so far: Schrodinger (Helllsing), The-One-Above-All (Marvel Comics), Infinity (Marvel Comics), Jenny Everywhere (Free use). Any problems with these choices? If so, I'll keep looking. Thank you. Kusarigama (talk) 04:40, January 10, 2017 (UTC)

Say, Kuo approved a power for me called Environmental/Adaptation Mode earlier. Any objections? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:47, January 10, 2017 (UTC)

Hello? Are you there? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:39, January 10, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for your time. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:49, January 10, 2017 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do about it Imouto 02:19, January 11, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Its going take a while, but I'll see if I can limit to only being on the Recent Activity page or maybe just get rid of the Chat period. Imouto 02:33, January 11, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Done and done Imouto 19:17, January 12, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, January 13, 2017 (UTC)

Excuse me, but I was planning on doing Cog/Gear Manipulation for a while now. I was hoping I could get to do the power. Are you sure you want to do it yourself? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 05:56, January 13, 2017 (UTC)

Not to bargin or anything, but how about we trade powers to do? I give you one of my powers I plan to do and you give me one of yours? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 06:01, January 13, 2017 (UTC)

I see. Well, you can't blame a guy for trying, at least. Plus, there were some powers you haven't done for years that I was hoping to get a chance to try myself, but hey... CrystalStorm51 (talk) 06:14, January 13, 2017 (UTC)

I understand. No need for a long explaination. ^_- CrystalStorm51 (talk) 06:27, January 13, 2017 (UTC)

Hello there. Do you have any applications and association ideas for a power called Automatic Tasking? Basically, it is the ability to complete any task without even doing anything. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:07, January 14, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:15, January 14, 2017 (UTC)

The power I had in mind is different. Perhaps I should try a different name? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:20, January 14, 2017 (UTC)

Link to the incriminating activities ? Need to see it for myself first. DYBAD (talk) 00:52, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

Made a last warning for the records. Tell me he if does it again, and he'll get his block right away.

DYBAD (talk) 02:36, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

re: Kanade's power
I appreciate the explanation, but Kanade was already added onto that page long before I added the picture and whatnot. I don't know who put her there before, but they thought the same thing. Smijes08 (talk) 03:51, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

Breathing Storage - isn't this what kryptonians (at least originally) have? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:33, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

Hello there. Do you know any users for Unknown Manipulation? Basically, it is the ability to manipulate what is unknown to any/everyone.

If not, I found some users that could manipulate energy that is unknown generally. Would they count? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:52, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

Not to argue, but Uncertainty Manipulation, eh, I think that is a bit different that it makes what is uncertain certain, and Pataphysics Manipulation, eh, I think it covers a lot more than what is unknown by the looks of things, not to mention imaginary solutions. Are you sure Unknown Manipulation would not even work as a sub power of either one? Again, not to argue, or get too technical, just saying. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:26, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

``that's the literak description´´ from where exactly? every menaing i see says something along the lines of:The condition of being uncertain; doubt. Not determined; undecided, questionable. i only saw that on wikipedia, it means unknown INFORMATION only, also, wikipedia is not a dictionary you know. Tsubasa16 (talk) 00:14, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

well, the page needs to be more detalied about it then, since Unknown is more specfically about what is Not Know or Understandable, while the page says more about what cannot be percepted. Tsubasa16 (talk) 00:21, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

What if I make Unknown Manipulation so that it manipulates matter, energy, forces and maybe even concepts unknown to anyone? That should be different enough from what is unknown as in not perceptible, right?

Sorry I caused this whole thing, by the way. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:28, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

actually i'am not american or primarily english speaking, i'am german/italian, so the meanings i'am saying are the ones in my dictionaries. well, i guess that ``same words´´ can have differents meanings in different languages. well, but since the wiki is in english, it should use english meanings then. Tsubasa16 (talk) 00:29, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

I meant not yet discovered things that do not necessarily have to defy the laws of physics or have abnormal properties that can be found and made on Earth. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:35, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

How is Foreign Property Manipulation, then? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:42, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

Done ! Two weeks this time to get the point home, much longer if he does it again.

DYBAD (talk) 07:52, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

I don't have much hope either, just doing things in the right order ^ ^; DYBAD (talk) 08:14, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

When something like that happens, check Galleries in Source. It's usually because someone messed up and Galleries have to be closed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:59, January 18, 2017 (UTC)

I took care of the user Imouto 22:12, January 19, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Hey
Hey bro, can I talk to you? I know we do not have such a good friendship, but can I help you create new super-powers futures? Anyway, changing the subject, I would like to know something that caught my attention:

1-  Nowhere-Lock  Would be what exactly?

2- Absolute Nothingness has definition?

I swear by my words that I will not create this power, I just like the name and the supposed surface concept

Vitorriq (talk) 18:51, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:38, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

Wait... I think you missed the point where it said she had Nigh Meta Regeneration, (supposedly Ultimate Regeneration if correctly so). I don't know. ChocolateElemental (talk) 00:34, January 21, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Reality Reset
Hi, I hope you don't mind me asking, but if a Sburb Scratch isn't a reset of reality, then what power would it be? AireDaleDogz (talk) 19:02, January 21, 2017 (UTC)

Existential Planes
Since you've probably done more research on this than a gander at a wikipedia page (Bad Brave :/) I'll take your word for it. Anyway, have you given any though to my proposition for the addition of a Divine, Spiritual, and Logoic plane article? The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 22:19, January 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * It does. Thanks. ^ ^ The Golden Lion of God  (Hear the Lion Roar!) 22:34, January 21, 2017 (UTC)

High School DxD Wiki
I send you to High School DxD Wiki. J.J. Chambers (talk) 00:55, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Ross/Creasion
Oh, ok. I question you: You know about Ross/Creasion from Senyu, right? J.J. Chambers (talk) 01:32, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Ross/Creasion
Cool. I think that Ross is Metapotence, Plot Control, Unpredictability and Absolute Restoration. Right?

J.J. Chambers (talk) 01:45, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:05, January 22, 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Sage? --J.J. Chambers (talk) 00:15, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

I think that Ross is Metapotence, Plot Control, Unpredictability and Absolute Restoration. Right? --J.J. Chambers (talk) 00:27, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

Fine, I wanna only ask you: FCB

Can you join it? If you're interested in them, then here you go. --J.J. Chambers (talk) 00:35, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

You can feel free to request characters pages. --J.J. Chambers (talk) 00:46, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

Well, I can make, but unsure:

Name: Ross, Shion, Creasion, Legendary Hero

Origin: Senyuu

Age: 21 (I guess)

Classification: Plot Hero

Gender: Male

Tier: High 1-A

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Almighty Magic, Absolute Restoration, Omnikinesis, Metapotence, Meta Event Manipulation, Meta Ability Creation, Plot Manipulation, Paradox Manipulation, Preservation, Absolute Will, Unpredictability, Omnilock, Speech Manipulation, Impossibility Inducement, Weird Attack, Immortality(Type 5)

Attack Potency: High Hyperverse+ level (Above all other characters inside his series with the same powers,can also rewrite all reality with mere thought)

Durability: At least Hyperverse+ level

Speed: Irrelevant

Lifting Strength: Irrelevant

Striking Strength: At least Hyperverse+ level (Can rewrite all reality with mere thought)

Range: At least Hyperverse+ level (Can rewrite all reality with mere thought)

Stamina: Limitless

Intelligence: Smart Combatant

Is accurate or inaccurate it, Sage? --J.J. Chambers (talk) 21:18, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:48, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

Is accurate or inaccurate it, Sage? --J.J. Chambers (talk) 22:22, February 01, 2017 (UTC)

Okay. --J.J. Chambers (talk) 23:05, February 01, 2017 (UTC)

Surprise Inducement
<p class="MsoNormal">Alright. I'll stop changing the article because it's clear that you'll just change it back if I do, and edit wars are pointless. Besides, it's just a minor detail on a Wikia article: In the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal. I will, however, leave you with a bit of advice:

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<p class="MsoNormal">Please learn to recognize when you are wrong. You say that Kogasa's ability allows her to do anything as long as it's surprising. In other words, you're saying that she's effectively omnipotent when that clearly isn't the case. This is such an egregious error that I created a Wikia account just to correct it. I cited print works, games, and wiki articles that explicitly show the limits of her actual power. If you talk to any Touhou fan, they'll tell you that Kogasa's ability is very weak and hardly capable of doing anything a normal human couldn't. I refuted your arguments (when you actually gave them instead of just being passive-aggressive) but you instead continued to lash out at me with a holier-than-thou attitude - as if that article belongs entirely to you since you created it, and no one else should be able to edit it, even though this is a wiki.

<p class="MsoNormal">

<p class="MsoNormal">Looking at your edits, it seems you've done a lot to contribute to this wiki, and that's really cool. However, with all the great things you've done to improve this site, you should acknowledge that once in a while you might make a mistake, and that's OK. But you need to understand that having an error corrected is not something you should take personally. It's silly and emotionally immature. Please keep this in mind from now on.

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<p class="MsoNormal">I won't reply to you if you decide to respond to this, because I don't want to start another argument. This is genuine advice and I honestly want what's best for you. OctoberMoonglade (talk) 09:10, January 24, 2017 (UTC)OctoberMoonglade

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 17:52, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

Magneto-Graviton Manipulation
And before you go deleting what i put there AGAIN, hear this; cuz most likely you'll just overrule me like last time. Magnetism under electromagnetism seems repetative so i tried to find substitutes, plus last i checked the page Gravity manipulation canno directly control Space/Time Manipulation which is why its in the assocciations. Speaking of, Particle Manipulation does have Meta Matter in its application list so I don't see why that doesn't fit.Loxlie 35 (talk) 20:27, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

Then change magnetism at least or somthing, thats just redundant.Loxlie 35 (talk) 20:31, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

I know what a black hole is thak you, but when i went over the rules you or whoever posted it, said that assocciations do not translate to usage in practice. Your making it sound contradictory.Loxlie 35 (talk) 20:33, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

Sheesh you make this sound kind of hypocritical honestly, Oh and for the record. I had a usage for the last page I made you deleted, I was gonna use ALL-Black The Necro Sword from Thor comics as my base; it is equal parts dark matter and dark energy which was also responsible for bringing light to the universe.Loxlie 35 (talk) 20:37, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

And... your not even listening are you? (sigh) why am I not surprised, talk about rules but in truth you admins tend to edit more for YOU these days. Loxlie 35 (talk) 20:44, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

That makes no sense, anything and everything must have an equal and exact opposite number. otherwise why make montheistic diety have a counterpart in Anti God? Also I never said QFM never existed beforehand I'm saying how can it exist without having a counter power like other abilities especially the all-mighty ones? Like I said, Contradictory.Loxlie 35 (talk) 21:53, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

That isn't at all what I mean, I'm saying if what you are saying is true than Anti-God shouldn't exist either shouldn't it? Given that there is only one god and that he she or it existed long before opposites became a thing.

Also what three other pages are there that contradict what I made? also I'd appreciate never hearing the words Have and Nice Or Day again please. Knew a jerk who said that to me once over a trivial matter we got into and honestly I've hated them ever since for saying it.Loxlie 35 (talk) 22:12, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

Neither does eclipse last i checked.Loxlie 35 (talk) 20:19, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Those are all covered by other powers though, at least put them under their coresponding templates.Loxlie 35 (talk) 20:26, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Not all of them??? Terrain is covered by Environmental Unity, Ocean manipulation is covered by its Lordship counterpart. Also i failed to see how nationalizim relates to the land and soil itself so that didn't make any sense, and elemental connection represents other elements beyond just earth and soil which makes it too broad doesn't it?Loxlie 35 (talk) 20:34, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

For the record I do check them, and a lot of it makes me wonder how well some of these pages are kept. Im thinking I was right about before -_-.Loxlie 35 (talk) 20:43, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Tricky but doable. You need to give very clear description for this. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:46, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Use Planetary Reshaping and go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:19, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

Element doesn't cover quantum foam though.Loxlie 35 (talk) 02:57, January 27, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, January 27, 2017 (UTC)

Just curious; when are you going to do Inertial Immunity/Resistance? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:44, January 28, 2017 (UTC)

Okay then. Take your time. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:03, January 28, 2017 (UTC)

Say, do you have any good applications and associations for two powers, Malfunction Inducement and Malfunction Manipulation? Basically, they induce and manipulate malfunctions/glitches in machines, biological systems and spacetime/physical laws/reality. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:34, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:36, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

go for both Gabriel456 (talk) 17:49, January 30, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:54, January 30, 2017 (UTC)

Strictly limited to dead (including corporeal ones) or immaterial ones, which could include spirits in general? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:54, January 31, 2017 (UTC)

Corporeal/incorporeal dead and Spirit Physiology? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:00, January 31, 2017 (UTC)

I'd honestly prefer to keep corporeal and incorporeal undead/spirits separate. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:05, January 31, 2017 (UTC)

Say, that Effect Manipulation power you plan to do, what does it do again? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:06, February 1, 2017 (UTC)

Doesn't it alter the effects of things like making a burn into a freeze or electric shock, something like that? Does it affect consequences of actions? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:30, February 1, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, February 1, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:39, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 19:51, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

Doable but could use better name and needs really good explanation/definition. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:51, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

Say, doesn't Bond Manipulation work on bonds between people, atoms and powers or does it work on more? I am not seeing that it works on more than those things. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:09, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Question
So, I think I asked you this before, but never really got an answer.

In your opinion, do you think Goku's Kaio-ken is an example of Enhancement Calling or Physical Augmentation? Smijes08 (talk) 02:21, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

re: Kaio-ken
So... I should probably remove him from Enhancement Calling, 'cause that's what I initially thought the Kaio-ken was. Smijes08 (talk) 02:42, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

That may be how things work in some multiverses, but this is the Forgotten Realms multiverse where mages aren't a species and potentially anyone can learn to be one. The Lythari may learn magic and have magic innately, but that does not make them Homo Magi.

The elves that they are, are faeries and that would make them fully faerie not part.--Armyeater (talk) 04:55, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Getting bit too specific. Try to expand the concept. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:54, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Ultimate form of Distortion Manipulation? Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:25, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

so essentially a dream version of Mindscape Transportation? Go for it, though I wouldn't know what to name it either. Gabriel456 (talk) 13:19, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Partially, in other words creating a portal/area that connects the times, or completely? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:02, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead, but remember to make that one clear. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:05, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

hey sage, i think i have three users for your temporal connection powers, Urthr, Verthandi and Skuld from Valkyrie Crusade, they once made the past, present and future exist at the same time by their mere presence alongside each other. do they fit? Tsubasa16 (talk) 21:37, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Sage, Kuo approved of that Link Manipulation page idea of mine and wanted me to call it Connection Manipulation. You don't have a problem with that, do you? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:02, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Well, are you against it or not? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:32, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

hey sage, i also have a user for your Eternal Bond, True Victoria from VC, through one drop of blood, she can make an eternal and unbreakable blood bond between her and the one whose blood was used. does she fits to the power? Tsubasa16 (talk) 22:36, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:52, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:57, February 4, 2017 (UTC)

New Power
Hey there. How ya been? Anyways, I know that the article had been previously deleted for some reason, but I was wondering if there would be any problem with creating a Life Earth Manipulation article. I believe that Rudy Tabootie from Chalkzone would be a good choice for user since he has the magic chalk. To that end, any and all people who use chalk (Creators) could be users, since when the pictures are erased, they manifest as new life forms in Chalkzone. What do you say? Kusarigama (talk) 05:10, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

Liquid Fire Manipulation. I re-added Napalm Manipulation because Napalm is a flammable liquid. It might be a mixture of things, but it is still classified as a Liquid. See: Napalm. I did check its classification beforehand, so I believe it should stay as an Association. Rateriak (talk) 20:18, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough. There's hundreds of definitions that classify Napalm as a flammable liquid and or gel, even both at the same time, but I'm not going to get into a debate about it, since we will both disagree on it. I'll leave it as is. Personally, since you have Viscosity Manipulation as an application, I do think there's a case for having it as an association. That Application was the main reason for having it anyway. I'll leave that up to you, though. Rateriak (talk) 20:37, February 5, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:47, February 6, 2017 (UTC)

Needs very good explanation, but go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:00, February 6, 2017 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 16:13, February 6, 2017 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:39, February 6, 2017 (UTC)

Akashic Records? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, February 7, 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:23, February 7, 2017 (UTC)

Age Deceleration? Gabriel456 (talk) 13:00, February 7, 2017 (UTC)

sounds good, go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 13:04, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

Name needs to be changed but otherwise usable.

Check if there's official name for this as God is defined as having always been, I'm pretty sure that means there's official name for it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:47, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

Sourceless might be the least clunky wording. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:29, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

Non-Created Physiology
Hey. Got a question for your new page. I'm not entirely sure about it, but would Amara/The Darkness from Supernatural count as a user? Gabriel456 (talk) 15:59, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

Yes? No? Gabriel456 (talk) 22:31, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

Neith
well, technically she was still the first thing to exist in a sense. this phrase is also actually not to all her versions, just one, since in one version, Neith is merely a goddess of war without any relation to creation at all or being first at all. also, while she is not directly said as without beginning, as far as i know, the primordial waters always existed (i don't recall anywhere saying that they have began, just that they were already there) and Neith in one version was the primordial waters, then in this version she would be non-created. though if that's not the case and the waters are said to have began somewhere, then Nun should be removed as well. so until proven otherwise about the waters, she stays as a user, so only remove her again if you find somewhere saying the waters had a beginning, and not where just always there already, and if you do, remove Nun as well. Tsubasa16 (talk) 21:21, February 10, 2017 (UTC)

Alright then, thanks Gabriel456 (talk) 22:36, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 23:19, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

N-OP I'd say. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:08, February 12, 2017 (UTC)

Needs better name (Shared Regeneration?) but doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:26, February 12, 2017 (UTC)

Sure I'll see what I can do about it Imouto 05:39, February 15, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Where do you see it? I've been searching and I can't seem to find code for it. Maybe it's on your personal JS? Imouto 04:19, February 16, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

So it is the Recent Activity page meaning that it is your JS, I'll have to look into it cause I'm not sure if it's in your global script or just this one. Removing it could also remove other features for you. Imouto 04:31, February 16, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tab

Then it's definitely a JS problem which I should be able to fix Imouto 05:14, February 16, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

I'll get around merging them later today. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, February 16, 2017 (UTC)

I sent a message to central to see what can be done about it ^ ^; Imouto 23:57, February 16, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

Touch Manipulation
Hi. How are you? Hope everything is well. I had a question about the recent edit. Are you sure that Saa (Sia) isn't included in this? From the several sources I have been able to find, Saa (Sia) is the god of the sense of touch as well as divine/human knowledge and understanding. They all included his dominion over tactition. Just trying to be thorough. Thanks.Kusarigama (talk) 14:45, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

First off, I don't recall saying that Omni Communication applies to only living things. Speaking of which, inorganic objects are only part of Omni Communication, and I don't see why Inorganic Telepathy should not be its own power. Omni Communication covers communication with anything. Inorganic Telepathy does not. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 15:31, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

Perspective Creation - usable but not perhaps the best name if user can amplify existing perspectives.

Afterlife Creation - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:40, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

Just in case
Since you are sure of this, I will accept your choice; however, I wanted to at least show you what I found. If you do not want to deal with any of it, that will be fine. Here's what my search revealed:

<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; line-height:normal;mso-outline-level:1">For Saa:Ancient Egyptian Myths and Legends - Page 361

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0486265250

Lewis Spence - 1990 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions; Wife of a priest of Ra, 202, 204 Came into S SAA. God of the sense of touch, appears in boat of Ra, 181 ; son of Geb ; personification of intelligence, human and divine, 1 81 SAB'A-0T11. Archangel ; mentioned with Osiris and the Greek gods, ...

Myths and Legends of Ancient Egypt:

https://books.google.com/books?id=p64LCwAAQBAJ

Lewis Spence - 2014 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions; SAA. God of the sense of touch, appears in boat of Ra, 181; son of Geb; personification of intelligence, human and divine, 181 OTH. Archangel; mentioned with Osiris and the Greek gods, 309 SACKVILLE, LADY MARGARET. Reference to.

Encyclopedia of Ancient Deities - Page 429

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1135963908

Charles Russell Coulter, ‎Patricia Turner - 2013 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions; Shu, the northern god, and Hu, the southern god, created the world from the body of Chaos (Hun-tun). After the ... Sia (Egypt) Also known as: Saa. God of the sense of touch or feeling, and of knowledge and understanding. Sia was born from ...

<p class="MsoNormal">For Setem:

Encyclopedia of Ancient Deities - Page 422
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1135963908

Charles Russell Coulter, ‎Patricia Turner - 2013 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions; Setem (Egypt) God of hearing. He is depicted with an ear above his head. Seth (Egypt) see Set. Setheniu-Tep (Egypt) Afterworld deities. Four divine beings wearing white crowns found in the eleventh sector of Tuat. Sethu (Egypt) Also known ...

Greek and Interbehavioral Psychology: Selected and Revised Papers of ...

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0819193313

Noel W. Smith - 1993 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions; In the Old Kingdom the king alone has a ba since it indicated the existential aspect of a god (Wilson, p. ... Hu was the god of taste and speech, Sia (or Saa) the god of feeling and of touch, Setem the god of hearing, and Maa the god of sight.

Ancient Egyptian Myths and Legends - Page 181

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0486131343

Lewis Spence - 2012 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions; In the Theban Recension of the Book of the Dead he is shown in the judgment scene amongst those gods who watch the weighing of the heart of the deceased. Saa is ... He is also drawn as a man having an eye placed over his head, which is also the symbol of his name. Setem was the god of hearing, and in his case his head is surmounted by an ear.1 The planets were also deified. Saturn was called ...

You wouldn't happen to mind if I made that Inorganic Telepathy power, would you? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:41, February 18, 2017 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 17:30, February 19, 2017 (UTC)

Matter based Power Randomization? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

Figure out how it relates to PR and have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:49, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

ok, thanks for the user. Tsubasa16 (talk) 21:43, February 24, 2017 (UTC)

Goodbye forever
I'm not going to be back and I already made it clear I don't care anymore. This is my very last comment and don't want to discuss with anyone ever again or talk to anyone further, regardless of benefits for me. [[User:Dekoshu|Dekoshu] (talk) 04:48, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

Could use some extra explanations, but doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:35, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

Y'know, it's weird. I actually thought of making a Memory Attacks page myself before I read your list.

But you suggested it to Kuopiofi first, so I'll let you have this one. Smijes08 (talk) 15:44, March 1, 2017 (UTC)

Author Authority
In the Bible doesn't it say in Genesis 1:1 that "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" 

Here's some proof have a look and judge for yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_1:1

CrabHermit (talk) 01:39, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

Makes sense. Thanks. CrabHermit (talk) 01:48, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

Wait
How did you know Restoration/Flawless Restoration isn't capable of reversing transmogrification effects, and is there any evidence to back it up? ChocolateElemental (talk) 01:06, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

TBH I don't want to say it and also reluctant to, but I can say you've misfired. If you take a careful analysis at the capabilities section of Flawless Restoration, the users can not only heal absolutely any kinds of damage to people, they can also repair/restore anything back to the way they originally were. Overall, Flawless Restoration is can also restore anything back/fix rather than heal. As for Restoration... it would be possible that it can also undo transmutaion and I doubt it does. It might be because you don't believe it does along with Flawless Restoration in general.ChocolateElemental (talk) 01:30, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

Terribly sorry. I should've looked over the Restoration ability itself. In all honesty, Flawless Restoration as well as Meta Restoration got be rather puzzled. ChocolateElemental (talk) 06:53, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

Got here a bit late, but...

Inertia Negation allows one to negate one's own inertia. Their own. Inertial Synching still has some inertia, but applies when in or on a moving object such as cars and trains and whatever is accelerating. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:55, March 4, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:25, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

Isn't that Gas Mimicry? --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:21, March 5, 2017 (UTC)

The other Enhanced Condition Sub-Powers for the Affinity page are present in Enhanced/Supernatural format. Why is Durability different? The sub-powers listed should all be formatted the same way and examples do also increase durability along with overall power to varying degrees. There's no reason it shouldn't be. (MasterGhost1 (talk) 23:15, March 5, 2017 (UTC))

Question
So, I noticed all the powers on your to-do list.

I was wondering, would you like any help with them? Like users and whatnot? Smijes08 (talk) 04:18, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

re: Power help
Okay. Just thought I'd be polite and offer. Smijes08 (talk) 04:26, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

I have a user for our power, Amefurashi from Valkyrie Crusade), the rains she creates have benefitial and blessing properties. Tsubasa16 (talk) 22:25, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

It'd be Consumptive Storing, not indexing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:18, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 13:33, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

Apologies, I goofed on that one but I've been keeping up on the alphabtical order policy very well up to that point. It was just a minor oversight.

KingofGarbage (talk) 23:27, March 7, 2017 (UTC)KingofGarbage

Darn, how can I be so blind. ChocolateElemental (talk) 23:39, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

It seems Flawless Restoration DOES in fact seem to be both a healing as well as a restoration ability. At best, comparing Restoration and AR with FR seems to mind**** my head despite sharing "restoration" in their names. I can pretty much say I've let confusion get the better of me. ChocolateElemental (talk) 23:48, March 7, 2017 (UTC)

I am fully aware of what a Werebeast is but I'm saying the picture is not explicitly a werewolf. The page needs a pic and that's the closest thing that I can find that's related to the power. There is no need to be so specific, espcially considering how obscure this power is to begin with. The page really needs a pic so can we just use that one?

If not then that's fine but I thought I'd ask.

KingofGarbage (talk) 00:51, March 8, 2017 (UTC)KingofGarbage

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:17, March 8, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for telling me about the brackets. I wasn't entirely sure if I was suppose to remove those or not since they didn't seem to affect the quality of the picture in any way. I'll be sure to remember that in the future!

KingofGarbage (talk) 00:27, March 9, 2017 (UTC)KingofGarbage

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Is there overlap with existing powers? I have weird feeling I've seen something like this... --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:39, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:30, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Wait, how is it not a limitation? At the beginning, it says "it is highly likely that various kinds of Immortality can become a curse because whoever is close to them or even their friends had died, the user would be left behind." So how could that not be a limitation at all? I'm just asking. ChocolateElemental (talk) 22:22, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Awwww. It would be good if it was a worthy weakness to insert. :( Would about adding this info to the capabilities section since you've pointed out that this is trivia, or even create a trivia section and add the info that way? ChocolateElemental (talk) 22:28, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

Isn't there power that does something like this on broader scale? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Death Link - doable.

Fantasy Element Attacks/Demonic Element Attacks - would there be in practical terms difference to Elemental Attacks? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:31, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there, I was wondering: I plan on making a power called Efficient Motion, which is the ability to move/accelerate with less energy/force than normally required. That power has not been done yet, has it? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:24, March 10, 2017 (UTC)

Could be usable, but I have this feeling that we have it already... or something similar anyway. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:25, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

go for all Gabriel456 (talk) 13:46, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Say, would the Flash from DC Comics be considered a user of Gaseous Movement, due to being immune to air friction? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:46, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

Um, did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:55, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

You fucker. Did Wamuu not shift his spine?? Like it was clay? Youuuuuuu prick.

HAHA!!
Thanks for letting me know. I thought the wording was a bit too similar. Wow I can't believe people go this far with stuff. I guess you stay vigilant for stuff like this huh. Well good catch and you can revert the edits I'm actually about to get off the computer now but thanks for letting me know I will be on the lookout for these things in the future. --Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 07:33, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. Second warning with this. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:24, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Figure out bit better names and have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:08, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Congrats on being featured
Just wanted to say congrats for being featured on the main page. ShenLong Kazama (talk) 01:19, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 13:49, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the help!
I really appreciate you fixing up my first power since I was kinda confused on how the editor worked

Thanks! ^^ CrabHermit (talk) 20:00, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Small Problem
Hey I got a small problem that I can use help with,

For some reason when I go to a category to see for my power like say for example Card Magic in the http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Card-Based_Powers, It only shows up as text even though there is a picture on the page, do you know how to fix this?

Thanks, looking forward to a response ^^ CrabHermit (talk) 01:35, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Alright thanks ^^ CrabHermit (talk) 01:41, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Lasting Effect - any practical differences aside shorter duration? If no, that's Limitation.

Equipment Calling - doable but not advanced, WC would be Variation.

Skill Removal- doable

Experience Transferal- doable

Transcendent Plant Physiology- ...really starting to wonder if I should go and remove several Transcendent physiologies... --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:21, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Yo there. When are you going to do that Inertial Immunity power? I'd really like to see it. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 17:37, March 19, 2017 (UTC)

Mental Slowdown - I think you need to separate the slowdown mental development from mental processes, one drops the mental abilities, other slows them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

For the sake of simplifying things I think two powers would work best. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:03, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

Fine dude, you want proof? Just watch the episode yourself.

http://watchcartoonsonline.eu/the-mask-full-episodes/

Season 1, Episode 4. Skip to 7:50, 8:45 and 14:54 and you will clearly see that he is a user of Self-Hardness Manipulation. the 8:45 timestamp clearly shows that the club is of his creation, a product of both his shapeshifting and self-hardening powers.

KingofGarbage (talk) 18:19, March 23, 2017 (UTC)KingofGarbage

So I'm guessing your choosing to ignore the fact that he can harden his entire body, thus he does in fact, have the ability to control the hardness of his body. Also I can make the argument that the club is made of the same substance his body is made of and it's something he created from his body but that isn't the main point.

He does it multiple times, he very clearly shows that he can harden his body at will, whether it's parts of his body or his entire body. He, by definition has Self-Hardness Manipulation. I'm going to say it again because I feel like I have to, he can control the hardness of his body. He can solidify his amorphous, putty-like body to a hard, stone-like structure, he can turn himself hard.

I don't know why it's so hard for you to see but I clearly showed enough evidence to supposrt that this character does in fact, have this power and it's for that reason that my edits should be reinstated on the Self-Hardness Manipulation page.

KingofGarbage (talk) 19:15, March 23, 2017 (UTC)KingofGarbage

Again, I must make it clear that the club isn't my main point. It's the fact he can harden his body. I added that picture to try and further show evidence to his powers and since there isn't a lot of screenshots that's all I could find and I thought that would be enough since it's made from his own body and such.

He can harden his own self, therefor he is a user of Self-Hardness Manipulation. I just want to make that clear.

KingofGarbage (talk) 19:21, March 23, 2017 (UTC)KingofGarbage

They kept saying he was the everything that came beforehand, multiverse included. Plus just because a host of requirements need to be met first shouldn't mean the cancerverse lacked the ability to encroach other realities.

To say it didn't have that ability simply because it needed a foothold to do so is just pointlessly countermanding somthing that proves itself true. Furthermore whats this matter anyway? You or someone else deleted the page for baseless reasons already.Loxlie 35 (talk) 23:07, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 12:41, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

So basically Utopia Creation without sentient life. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:32, March 24, 2017 (UTC)

Fire/ice not opposite, but otherwise. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:52, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Didn't see the warnings to stop until I had finished editing. I was focusing ond performing a batch of edits for all the variations of energy physiology and wasn't stopping to check anything. Could you explain why Strong Soul is not an Application Energy Physiology and its Variations? The Subpowers seem appropriate. Indomitable will is needed to hold an energy body and Maximum Quintessinel Control goes hand in hand with all the other powers and Quintessence Force. Also when you undid my revisions you removed several instances where pages were missing Quintessence Force. (MasterGhost1 (talk) 01:42, March 27, 2017 (UTC))

​Maximum Quintessential Control seems like a valid application for the Energy physiology powers due to the other powers that are already part of the power. You haven't given a reason for that not be beyond the pages should be changed. (MasterGhost1 (talk) 01:51, March 27, 2017 (UTC))

Not quite. Gravity Immunity just removes the physiological effects of gravity from the user, not outright defy it. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:49, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

I am starting to wonder: Wouldn't Gravitation Immunity be the same as Gravitation Adaptation? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:10, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Never mind. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:27, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

By Domain Manipulation...
You mean different realms or alternate dimensions of some kind, right? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:52, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, good luck with that if it gets approved. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:21, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Domain as in Personal Domain or something else/more? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

You need to define domain in Capabilities, but otherwise have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:50, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Parallel Reality Synching? --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:33, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Hello
I got a known user for your Absorption Ball Projection idea.

Naturon Shenron. He uses his Dragon Ball to absorb people. Smijes08 (talk) 23:14, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Mob Combatant
Hey on the Ultimate Fighter page I noticed you left an entry. Can you pleases provide details on his character and feats? I tried to do research on my own, but there isn't much on him. DemiurgeArt2 (talk) 01:27, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Should'nt Transcendent Nephalem Physiology have powers equal to that of God? Plus it is a combination of Transcendent Angel Physiology and Transcendent Demon Physiology. Then why does it have less omnipotent powers compared to Transcendent Angel Physiology and Fallen Transcendent Angel Physiology ? - User VarunpMenon

go for it Gabriel456 (talk) 22:43, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:24, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Bit too specific as is, but if you expand the idea into being able to improvise any craft/skill... well, it'll be useful skill. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:16, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Isn't that basically what I suggested, ability to improvise any skill/craft? --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:17, April 4, 2017 (UTC)

Limitations of Definition Manipulation
I'm glad we came to terms with Definition Manipulation!

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

It's under Healing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:02, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:47, April 12, 2017 (UTC)

Question
With your permission, could I make the Absorption Ball Projection page? I got a user.

And you will, of course, get full credit for the idea. If not, that's fine. I'm just asking. Smijes08 (talk) 19:19, April 17, 2017 (UTC)

Interesting... go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:41, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun with both. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Sage, I'm going to create a power/ability page where it covers the mastery skill of using weapons that are not thrown or shot. Basically melee weapons used for hand to hand or close quarters and it would be called "Melee Weapon Proficiency" opposite to Ranged Weapon Proficiency. From pointed, edged, or blunt, which this will cover the most of the variations of Weapon Proficiency. I was wondering if you could find some users for the power when I create it? Up to you, I'm not forcing you, just letting you know. Tokusatsu-32nd Century (talk) 07:07, May 5, 2017 (UTC)

So Cloth Manipulation covers Thread Manipulation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:28, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

So Thread Manipulation should be deleted along with all other thread-powers because we already have Cloth Manipulation? Right... why no word before now? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:45, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

You skipped the "supreme" part. "Supremely almighty" means the user can do absolutely anything better than anyone else, which is exactly where Omnipotence stands : above all others. The very idea of "Omnipotence" and "defeat" are also utterly irreconciliable (just try suggesting the idea in the comments ^ ^;) hence the presence of "invincible" right after "almighty".

We should probably ask Gabriel, the Omnipotence page is his creation after all.

DYBAD (talk) 00:17, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

Hey SageM can you fix the picture and words on the page called Concrete Absorption? i'd do it myself, except i dont know how to do it.

Nickthebrick1

In the definition of restore it means to bring back into existence. Youth and age are in existence. So what is your definition of restore.

Personal Gravity
Are you sure about taking away The Blob from Personal Gravity? On all the sites I have seen, he has always been stated as having the power to manipulate his personal gravity field into the ground in order to maintain his Immobility. His ability to be immovable stems from his biological size/weight and his power to extend his gravity field several feet underground so long as his feet remain in contact with the ground. Am I misunderstanding the language of what the sites are saying. Check marvel wiki, marvel.com, comicvine, uncannyxmen.net. I think he does have this. Kusarigama (talk) 19:14, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

Re: He is not a user.
First and foremost, "Emile" is an AI chat robot so it has no gender. If it were to be assigned a gender, Emile would be female.

Second, do you even read Tower of God to be refuting my knowledge ?

Third, and most importantly, you do understand that when 'paths' are mentioned in Tower of God, they do not strictly refer to the physical paths that a person may traverse on. In fact, they generally refer to the choices and decisions that one makes on their journey through life e.g. when Baam chose the path to confront the White Steel Eel during the test Headon gave him on the 1st Floor. Emile can generate these new artificial [life] paths for its users which then merges with the pre-existing paths that the Guides can see.

So please, don't revert my edits on the Path Maker page. Because, with all due respect, you clearly do not possess as much knowledge as I do on the series.

Cheers. 01:46, May 11, 2017 (UTC)

You're kidding me right ? So, not only do you go and revert my edit but you do so without actually giving any solid reason or proof why Emile doesn't fit as a user of Path Maker... https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/ryuu-zone/images/2/24/Huh.gif https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/ryuu-zone/images/2/24/Huh.gif

I'm not sure how you've got so far without being warned/blocked for unnecessary edit warring... anyhow, if Emile doesn't fit as a Path Maker user (which it does) then what power does it fit ? Because it's certainly not Path Manipulation... 02:01, May 11, 2017 (UTC)

Again, Emile is an "it" not a "he"; it's not a person, it's an item. Emile is like iPhone's Siri. Obviously, if you read Tower of God, you'd know that. I'll clarify that Emile is an item rather than a user in subsequent edits.

Anyway, given Tower of God's setting, yes Emile is [indirectly] potentially capable of doing all those things given enough time, interaction and knowledge. Emile is an AI that can control and guide others by answering their questions and influencing them. So, if Emile "found a way to kill an undead being" or "create a way to live forever" it couldn't directly cause those things to happen (since it doesn't have a body) but it could certainly tell/influence someone to do so. Can Emile "make it possible/make ways for humans to do superhuman feats", in the setting, hell yes ! But it would do so by sending someone down one of its artificially created paths.

Thanks for enlightening me on Destiny Assignment, that does seem to be one of Emile's powers. Though, funnily enough, on the Destiny Manipulation page, Path Maker is listed as a sub-application of Destiny Assignment. Reinforces the notion that Emile does indeed have Path Maker as a power. 02:53, May 11, 2017 (UTC)

Funny how you don't want to give a response to my comments above SageM... I'll take that to mean you no longer disagree with my points. 20:11, May 11, 2017 (UTC)

About Animal Trnamulation
hey Sagem Would animal transmulation count as a technique of animal manipulation, if not why?

Too Similar
Took a long look over both pages and it looked too similar too me. Imouto 19:43, May 11, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Re: ...
I actually can't take you seriously since you're unable to even argue properly. First reply to what I've said above and finish that before trying to argue something else.

Given all you're spouting off, I've seen quite a few powers on this wiki that appear quite similar to others and they have persisted. Now, considering that Power Borrowing makes a clear point about what its capabilities are (i.e. Power Borrowing leaves the victim temporarily powerless), there is a key difference that differentiates Power Borrowing from Ability Borrowing.

Also, two other points that differentiate Ability Borrowing from Power Borrowing: These things aren't something that Power Borrowing is mentioned to be capable of. 20:57, May 11, 2017 (UTC)
 * Ability Borrowing users can draw/borrow 'powers' from things like inanimate objects or powerful objects.
 * Ability Borrowing users can draw/borrow the skills/techniques of 'powerless' beings like humans e.g. borrowing Bruce Lee's ability to perform Jeet Kune Do.

well, that was fast XD Gabriel456 (talk) 18:43, May 15, 2017 (UTC)

Sagem isn't there a different between physiology and mimicry? physiology means that the user is born/already something. mimicry means the user can change into something and change right back. how are they the same thing?

oh ok well thanks for clearing things up, by the way isn't electricity and lightning two different things? electricity is a form of energy and lightning is electricty thats bigger, concentrated, and only comes from storm clouds, iit's like saying that snow and ice are the same thing. they may be related but have enough differences to be seperate from one another. -nickthebrick1

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:44, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

I apologize for the incident where I accidentally deleted your messages. I'm new to this whole talk page thing and thought I was getting hacked or something. Again, my most sincere apologies to you SageM. I had absolutely no intentions of deleting your messages on purpose. --Dr. Kaos-X (talk) 06:33, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Bit too similar I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:35, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:59, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

why did you undo my edit? read the capabilites and then look at the limits!

hi is Superman a user of badass adaptation ?MichaelSensei (talk) 03:00, May 23, 2017 (UTC)

in says in the capapilites the power cant me removed yet you add healing erasure stop contradicting your self fix it!

fine im sorry, im sorry ok

can you answer me please MichaelSensei (talk) 19:28, May 23, 2017 (UTC)

so can i remove him from badass adaptation ? MichaelSensei (talk) 20:21, May 23, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Sage, why is animal manipulation only limited to controlling their behaivor? shouldn't it be controlling them mentally as well as pyshically?

and why aren't powers like animal mimicry, animal transformation, and animal generation not on the list? they are all abilites that would fit animal manipulation.

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 02:15, May 24, 2017 (UTC)Nickthebrick1

Sagem someone did a joke power about figit spinner magic, can you delete it?

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 22:32, May 27, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

Actually
I've been to the site many times. And just because it was forged from Soul with malicious intent, that doesn't mean that Soul Calibur doesn't have divine powers. Soul Calibur has even been refereed into, in many of the games of the series, as a holy sword. It even says on the wiki "Algol, the king that once wielded Soul Edge and lost his son because of the demonic sword, vowed to create a holy sword from the purified shards of Soul Edge that would oppose the evil sword, being its equal in strength and opposite in intent". Oh yes the soul of Soul Calibur is just as twisted as the spirit of Soul Edge, but it still wielded by the pure and good characters of the series and still have power great enough to counter Soul Edge. (Damn this lag...)RnR (talk) 04:11, May 29, 2017 (UTC)

You misunderstood, I never said anything about it being mentioned by the characters. By in game, I meant by in-game universe as the polar opposite of Soul Edge. Even though it was made from Soul Edge, the shards were purified. Not to mention, on the wiki, it said that In canon, unlike Soul Edge who can be wielded by both good and evil characters, Soul Calibur can only be wielded by those with only a pure, good heart and spirit. Thus, those who are purely evil and corrupted are more likely to be killed at her blade." Another thing, if Soul Calibur was truly evil, it would have no need for an evil form: http://soulcalibur.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_Calibur_(Evil). It would have no need for a corrupted from if it was evil to begin with Sorry it took me so long to answer. RnR (talk) 02:38, May 30, 2017 (UTC)

Usable but needs better name. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, June 1, 2017 (UTC)

It should still be removed
If the Moniters are on the same level with the Presence then he is not omnipotent in the slightest, especially, since he left the DC verse with a child in charge who herself isn't even as powerful or almighty like the Presence. Imouto 04:24, June 1, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Imouto 04:37, June 1, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
 * 1) They exist in the Void which outside of everything even the Source's influence.
 * 2) The ENTIRE DC UNIVERSE is literally a tinnie tiny speck on their screen.
 * 3) The Presence doesn't run/exist in the DCU as he left at the end of the Lucifer comic, because he got bored and wanted to explore the other universes.

No problem, if anything needs re-adding just let me know.

Death horseman94 (talk) 17:46, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

what are you doing ideal is anotherr word for itTheFifthWeider (talk) 04:16, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

How'd it be different from Freedom? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

i did thats why im typing it in go and see for your self type in (conceptual def) exactly.

then type in ideal def and go look at the synonyms you know its another word for it, ideal is an adjective form of the word idea and idea is a another synonym of conceptualTheFifthWeider (talk) 04:30, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

yeah look at the bottom of adjective it says (representing an abstract or hypothetical optimum) look at the synonyms

Doable but remember to be very clear what it does. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:02, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

Dual warping contain science magic acsendency (don't know if I pronounce it right), which contain almighty science and almighty magic. It's like saying: X/=Z Y>X+Z T>Y X>T It doesn't make any sense. Count Vlad III dracula (talk) 18:57, June 4, 2017 (UTC)

thanks Nickthebrick1 (talk) 03:09, June 8, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

Clairaudience and Supernatural Hearing
Before I get into how wrong you are, let me first bring to notice this: you seem to have an irritating penchant for undoing entire edits like everything I have edited is wrong. Fair enough if you want to disagree, I cannot stop you from disagreeing, but when you undo everything for no reason other than to try and stamp some non-existent authority, it is irksome. Case in point: my edits to the Clairaudience and Supernatural Hearing pages also ordered all of the known users alphabetically. That took some serious effort! But you completely overlook that and undo it all anyway because a couple things bug you!

Changing "user" to "user's" in the capabilities section, my bad, I will hold my hands up to that. I will remember not to do that in the future.

Now, and this is glaringly obvious, both Clairaudience and Supernatural Hearing are both sub-powers of Extrasensory Perception and Supernatural Senses respectively. It is so obvious, it hurts. Think about it logically for a second. If hearing is a sense, then it comes under the umbrella of being a sense, does it not? Therefore, because the power Supernatural Senses covers all senses, Supernatural Hearing can only be considered a sub-power. It is the same reason why Supernatural Senses are a sub-power of Supernatural Condition, because the senses are part of a larger whole (i.e. "condition"). Obviously, the same thing is true for Clairaudience and Extrasensory Perception. Surely you can see the logic?? Surely?? And if you think I am talking out of my arse, tell me why Absolute Hearing is considered a sub-power of Absolute Senses?

On to the topic of users. In Clairaudience I only added two users: Yuuki Tenpouin (Code:Breaker) and Yuzuha (Utawarerumono). In Supernatural Hearing I added Yuuki Tenpouin (Code:Breaker), Zebra (Toriko) and Naoto Miura (Clockwork Planet) and I removed Yuzuha (Utawarerumono).
 * Yuuki Tenpouin does not fit as a user of Absolute Hearing (he cannot hear on a galactic scale). But considering he has supernaturally good hearing and was said to be able to hear the "Voice of Life" (as per the Code:Breaker Wiki), if Yuuki Tenpouin is not a user of Clairaudience and Supernatural Hearing then where does he fit Mr Know-It-All?
 * Zebra (Toriko) you can have that, I remember you mentioning he can hear on a global scale.
 * Naoto Miura (Clockwork Planet) you have already explained why he fits Absolute Hearing and not Supernatural Hearing.
 * Since I know nothing about her or the series I looked on the wiki to see what it said about Yuzuha (Utawarerumono), and it merely mentioned she could tell who people were by their footsteps. Any blind person can do that, that barely registers as Enhanced Hearing. But then in her gallery it says she can hear emotions. No matter how good your hearing, emotions are not something that can be heard i.e. it can only be Clairaudience.

So there you go SageM, that is why I made the edits I did. And yes, I will make them again. I suggest you do not change it again until you have solidly proven my points incorrect.

FUG.L!F3 (talk) 00:24, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Well, even though you neglected to acknowledge your wrongdoing concerning reverting my alphabetical ordering, I will thank you for actually bothering to leave it alone this time...

Hahaha, you like trying to talk down to people Mr SageM. I have never claimed to know everything, but it appears I know a hell of a lot more than you do... like I commented on the page, I have looked at the other pages, and they are wrong. I have already explained why that is in my above comments (which you have obviously neglected to read). And, like I commented on the Clairaudience page, it does not make sense that a user of Supernatural Senses (or any one of its sub-powers) would be able to sense conceptual/immaterial things...

I will continue editing as I do, you seem to be the only person who has a recurring problem with my edits. You, and you alone. I understand full well about the users I add and remove, and if I do not, I ASK!! It is just a fucking shame that no one bothers to reply. And then you throw a hissy-fit despite you never explaining anything. If you actually bothered to explain to me why a character is or is not a user of a particular power, I would back down, but you never do so!!.

You act as if once it has been edited in, it cannot be changed! That is not how wikis work mate! Things change, all the time! Just because it was correct once, does not mean it will be correct forever! The only admin that does anything around here is Kuopiofi anyway! So scurry over and tell the him to lock the pages! Last time I checked, you are not an admin, so you will not be able to edit the pages either!

FUG.L!F3 (talk) 01:09, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Hahahaha, what? You have actually dumbfounded me...?

I do not understand? YOU do not understand! You literally explain the difference between an application and a variation perfectly but yet you cannot see how Hearing is a sub-power of Senses? Also, let me correct this comment, "Anything that is considered to be too different from an application is considered to be either a variation or technique", to this: Anything that is considered to be too different from an application is considered to be either a variation or technique . A technique, by definition, is just a specialised application of a skill/power/ability. So it will either be an Application, a Variation or an Association.

Anyway, let me give you an example as to why they are applications and not variations: I will ask the question: Can you see a difference between the four of these? The correct answer is no. Why? Because all four powers are umbrella powers. Here are some example to describe what I am saying:
 * Extrasensory Perception: "The acquisition of information by means independent of any known senses or previous experience". It is rightly so, a variation of the Enhanced Senses. ESP can be performed/applied via:
 * Clairvoyance (extrasensory sight), Clairaudience (extrasensory hearing), Clairalience (extrasensory smelling), Clairgustance (extrasensory taste), Clairsentience (extrasensory touch) etc.
 * Enhanced Senses: "Having extremely accurate senses". A sub-power of Enhanced Condition. A variation of Extrasensory Perception. Enhanced Senses can be performed/applied via:
 * Enhanced Sight, Enhanced Hearing, Enhanced Smell, Enhanced Taste, Enhanced Touch etc.
 * Enhanced Condition: "Possessing physical/mental abilities enhanced beyond that of a normal member of the user's species". Enhanced Condition can be performed/applied via:
 * Enhanced Strength, Enhanced Speed, Enhanced Senses, Enhanced Durability, Enhanced Intelligence etc.
 * Biological Manipulation: "Manipulation of all aspects of a living creature's biological make-up.". Biological Manipulation can be performed/applied via:
 * Biological Absorption, Biological Explosion, Body Manipulation, Disease Manipulation, Genetic Manipulation etc.
 * Being a user of Enhanced Condition automatically means you be a user of Enhanced Strength, but being a user of Enhanced Strength does not automatically mean you are a user of Enhanced Condition.
 * Being a user of Biological Manipulation automatically means you are capable of being a user of Biological Explosion, but being a user of Biological Explosion does not automatically mean you are a user of Biological Manipulation.
 * Being a user of Enhanced Senses automatically means you are capable of being a user of Enhanced Hearing, but being a user of Enhanced Hearing does not automatically mean you are a user of Enhanced Senses.
 * Being a user of Extrasensory Perception automatically means you are capable of being a user of Clairaudience, but being a user of Clairaudience does not automatically mean you are a user of Extrasensory Perception.

Do you get it yet? Here, let me put it another way for you:
 * If you were to categorise sight, hearing, taste, smell and touch under one single umbrella term, what would the term be called? The answer is: the senses! Like you alluded to, variations are things that are different but have a similar/identical function e.g. Extrasensory Perception is a variation of Enhanced Senses because it is a different way with which to perceive ones surroundings. If things like sight, hearing, taste, smell and touch were different things then they would not all be called "senses" would they?

Do you get it yet? DO YOU?!

Also, I actually quite doubt that any of the admins would have changed it back. Kuopiofi seems to be remarkably quick at following up on things, I am pretty sure he gave my edits a quick glance before moving on (he inadvertently proved that to me when I was editing earlier). As for other admins doing things here, I will have to take your word for it, because in all my time editing here, I have literally only ever seen 2 of the 7 admins editing on the mainspace pages (Kuopiofi and DYBAD)...

FUG.L!F3 (talk) 02:33, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Difference between Supernatural Senses and ESP
"User's" is not plural, it is possessive. So if I put, "User's ability to draw is good", it means that the user has the ability to draw good. If I put, "Users ability to draw is good" or "User ability to draw is good", then the sentence becomes grammatically incorrect. Understand?

Hahahahaha. Okay, so you seem to be confusing the capabilities of Supernatural Senses and Extrasensory Perception. Let me explain as simply as I can: In short, a Supernatural Senses user can sense normal everyday things on a grand scale while an Extrasensory Perception user can sense supernatural things (scale will vary).
 * Supernatural Senses: "Having better senses than what is naturally possible". This means, the regular senses of the user are just enhanced to superhuman extremes. That is it. If a human cannot hear conceptual or immaterial things, then no matter how much their hearing is enhanced, they will never be able to hear conceptual or immaterial things. For example, it is impossible to hear/smell/taste/touch the concept of 'time'. Even a user of Supernatural Senses will never be able to hear/smell/taste/touch the concept of 'time'. Even if you change the concept to something different, like 'colour', the principle still stands. Therefore, a user of Supernatural Senses can never sense conceptual forces and immaterial beings/entities with their basic senses alone.
 * Extrasensory Perception: "Acquisition of information by means independent of any known senses or previous experience". This means that the user can sense things via psychic/mystic/unknown means. But not just normal things, but also things like conceptual forces, immaterial beings/entities, the dead and anything else considered supernatural.

Which brings me to my real points: I mean, if the two aforementioned characters also possess Supernatural Touch and Supernatural Smell in addition to their ESP powers, then by all means let us keep them on the page. If not, then removal will need to be done.
 * 1) If Factol Rhys (Planescape) can "feel" the fabric of reality then she has Clairsentience not Supernatural Touch.
 * 2) If Apollo (Genesis of Aquarion) can "smell" conceptual forces and immaterial beings then he has Clairalience not Supernatural Smell (and yes, Clairalience is not a page... yet... but I will give you the pleasure of creating it if you so desire).

FUG.L!F3 (talk) 19:10, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Well duh, superpowers are fantasy, of course they do not make sense in reality! But powers are based on real life concepts unless stated otherwise. That is a fact throughout all fictional/fantasy media. All this wiki does is chronicle as many powers it can find across all these fictional/fantasy media. And I am sure my "standards" and "ideals" that you seem to want to reject would be agreed upon by the vast majority of people, it is only logical.

So, in your opinion, I have apparently been constantly been breaking wiki laws and yet, here I am, having never received a warning from an admin (or a user in a position of power) nor have I been blocked for my actions? I wonder why that is Mr Know-It-All? I will continue on until you see the error of your judgement. And like I mentioned before, go and get the page locked, you will be screwing over yourself as well as me.

FUG.L!F3 (talk) 19:25, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Hahahahahahahahaha, is that so? They are completely different powers with nothing in common? Are you sure? Here, let me show you why you are wrong:
 * ESP is considered a "sixth sense"
 * ESP is a variation of Enhanced Senses (which, as you should already know, is a weaker version of Supernatural Senses)
 * Much like Supernatural Senses, ESP has sub-types that are based around the five main senses which are:
 * (Supernatural) Vision = Clairvoyance
 * (Supernatural) Hearing = Clairaudience
 * (Supernatural) Smell = Clairalience
 * (Supernatural) Taste = Clairgustance
 * (Supernatural) Touch = Clairsentience

Want to try arguing against the facts provided?

SageM, you are desperately chatting out of your arse now hahahaha. If ESP is not a sensory power then what is it? And calling it an "instinctive" power is silly, because that implies that it cannot be controlled (which as anyone knows, is not true). And of it is, ESP is connected to the senses in an indirect way. Sure, you are not actually smelling anything physical when you use Clairalience, but the sensation and concept of 'smelling' is the trigger of the power.

Put it like this:
 * With Supernatural Senses, the sensory organs are directly used to sense things.
 * With ESP, psychic/mental power is used to sense things using the sensory organs as a proxy.

FUG.L!F3 (talk) 19:44, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

ESP can be achieved through an incredible number of methods though... you can attain ESP through psychic means, magic means, divine means etc. None of them are instinctual, so that blows your theory out of the water. Instinct is just a term people throw around, it holds no meaning here.

If I am forming opinions based on incomplete or fabricated facts, then I have no idea what you are doing...

And like I said above, "With ESP, psychic/mental power is used to sense things using the sensory organs as a proxy". For example, you cannot perform Clairaudience if you do not hear anything... the sensory organs are used to understand the supernatural information the user receives! So YES, they can sense immaterial and conceptual forces!

FUG.L!F3 (talk) 20:17, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

BTW, if supernatural sense/ESP are Variations instead of Applications, please make the changes on those pages as well instead of just chancing the umbrella page.

And 12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:47, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Clairsentience
You are kidding right? Supernatural Touch and Clairsentience are similar in that they are both related to the sense of touch (which reinforces my point that Supernatural Senses are related to ESP). Also, your understanding of psychic-based powers is really lacking. Telekinesis (i.e. movement of things with the mind) has nothing to do with sensing supernatural phenomena through the sensation of touch.

Wow... once again, another power on this wiki that has been misrepresented... right, so taking into account Clairsentience is considered another name for Psychometry, I am not sure why the Psychometry page completely neglects to mention that the power works primarily (if not exclusively) through physical touch. Need proof? Check here and here. So yes, Clairsentience does indeed involve reading the history behind and object, place or person, but it does so through physical touch. Thus, my credibility remains very much intact while yours wanes increasingly.

Unlike you, who literally only reads from the wiki and takes everything upon it as absolute fact, I get my knowledge from a range of sources including the wiki.

Finally, if you want to go down the route of what power covers "feeling the fabric of reality", then Supernatural Touch definitely does not. Even Clairsentience would be shaky. ESP itself would best cover such a description.

FUG.L!F3 (talk) 22:54, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Read my comment on the Psychometry page. Combine with this and then use a little logic. You can see how the "feeling" from the etymology of clairsentience (i.e. "clear feeling") can easily be misconstrued to mean "emotion" when it was initially referring to "sensation of touch".

It is another case of the mass majority of people calling something by the wrong name and then sticking with it, so much so that it now sounds right. Happens often enough. I can concede that "Clairsentience" seems to mean "Clairempathy", fair enough.

Though, in the grand scheme of things, it does not retract from the fact that you still think Supernatural Touch and Psychometry are the same thing...

FUG.L!F3 (talk) 23:30, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

*facepalm*

Except it is not... how does having a superhumanly good sense of touch somehow make you able to perceive the residual information of objects and people? That makes absolutely no sense does it...?

I bet you also believe that someone with Supernatural Senses is also capable of Extrasensory Perception!

FUG.L!F3 (talk) 23:45, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Tricky... Psychometry covers the first part of Clairsentience description (perceive the condition of subjects from the past, present or, future) but not the second (feel auras, psyches, and that which would be otherwise intangible).

So as a personal opinion I'd say that Pm isn't Cs as descripted on EP and I don't think we have single power that does it. Soo... either change the description on EP to reflect Pm or create Clairsentience power that does the whole thing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

To quote Capabilities "The user is able to have all senses enhanced to universal scale, allowing them to see, smell, hear and otherwise sense everything around the universe and beyond." Not to mention that if the lower version can do it, why would you loose the ability when you go step up?

Point about the users. On the other hand, neither have all SS users demonstrated ability to sense immaterial/conceptual things. Conceptual Detection/Senses maybe? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:11, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

SS and ESP
Please see the response to these questions here. I will be making the necessary edits to the relevant Supernatural Senses and Extrasensory Perception pages now. Please do not undo the edits.

FUG.L!F3 (talk) 11:55, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

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<span style="color:rgb(45,45,45);font-family:"TimesNewRoman";font-size:14.08px;font-weight:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">The Mother Of Existence is only nigh-omniscient and has been banned from the Earth by an ordinary human spell, must follow certain law that it made and cannot break etc.

<span style="color:rgb(45,45,45);font-family:"TimesNewRoman";font-size:14.08px;font-weight:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">Imouto 06:50, June 18, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Well the biggest thing is her not being completely Omniscient even without the other two disproving feats that were stated. Without Omniscience she's only nigh-omnipotent which makes sense because none of her incarnations are actually Omnipotent in their own mythology.

Imouto 11:29, June 18, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

The change you made in the page of Subjective Reality
Why don't you let me add Macbeth from Fairy Tail to the page Subjective Reality? I'm pretty sure he said,"Sometimes, using the bend of light, I can even create illusions. " But I think that counts as partially reality since Jellal actually got hurt by that 'illusion' in episode 239. So isn't it a Subjective Reality? It's a mere illusion?

--MoonlightSumire (talk) 01:28, July 1, 2017 (UTC)MoonlightSumire

Might want to mention that to the page maker, but as far as I'm concerned go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:50, July 2, 2017 (UTC)

Hello, sorry for deleting my edition I only need to upload the images but the Wikia does not leave me instead of edit me ubueras help to upload the images of the links for the administrators to see that it is not a mistake and I assure you not You distest click I also plan to attach Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez poe his attack "Panther Claw" would help me put the images instead of just delete them.

Hmm... point. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:44, July 3, 2017 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure there's nothing in Augmentations that prevent that already... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

During the Poltergeist Movie, although I really don't want to spoil it but, I saw that Reverend/The Beast is capable of elongating a hallway and warping a closet into a living mouth. ChocolateElemental (talk) 22:51, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about that. ChocolateElemental (talk) 23:05, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

My bad. ChocolateElemental (talk) 23:50, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

1. Energy Fields Manipulation- call it Energy Field Manipulation and go ahead

2. Energy Resurrection- bit like Elemental Healing with resurrection?

Damage Conversion - we don't have anything that transforms/converts things to all those? Just damage is bit limited. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:24, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:04, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

We don't have anything that covers this? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:15, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:00, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to say but I don't think you have done any research about people being not truly dead thanks to having a spirit. You just didn't believe if it's true or not, that's all. ChocolateElemental (talk) 13:04, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

But you don't know for sure SageM, and neither do I, or anyone else on the matter. ChocolateElemental (talk) 18:19, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

You still don't know. That's all I can ask you. ChocolateElemental (talk) 19:23, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

From what I can understand, you just have different opinions, and that's fine, but the thing is, wiki's aren't about opinions, only facts and information about video games, movies, and among other things that you can possibly think of. So yeah, wikis aren't places for that. ChocolateElemental (talk) 21:16, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

(https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4987/t/are-the-dead-really-dead-) ChocolateElemental (talk) 22:09, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

See what I mean SageM? ChocolateElemental (talk) 23:24, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

That sounds quite a bit like indirect Reality Warping really. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:27, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

Can I please add it back? XD ChocolateElemental (talk) 08:54, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

OK then.

Background Manipulation - so basically variation of Nigh Omnipotence.

Endless Dream - in practical terms, what's the difference between this and accessing alternate reality? Something like Dreamlands of Cthulhu verse for example. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:36, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Both can be basically considered as special effects to N-OP/DT, but latter one could be interesting Limitation/trivia to Dimensional Travel. How do you deal with the fact that you're living two separate lives half of your life and aren't sure which on is real? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:45, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Check it isn't covered by something and might want to find better name, but otherwise go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:11, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

And this was told to me, why? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:09, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

Let's be honest for a sec please

Breath Manipulation is in no way a valid power which is why I'm merging it with Breath Powers

Imouto 22:01, July 11, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Gabriel left the Wiki, and I'm fairly certain Kuo shares our perspective on the matter.

The deletion of mostly non-contributive pages is an integral part of the Wiki system.

The "no new category" part is clearly mere nitpicking, so doesn't require an answer.

The tagged pages will be discussed beforehand, and the decision agreed upon.

DYBAD (talk) 23:44, July 11, 2017 (UTC)

Yes you have, though its aggressive length made it challenging to read through ^ ^;
 * Piece

As mentioned to Kuo, such decisions will be collectively made by the admin board as a whole to ensure they are effectively for the best of the Wiki, as is its role in the first place.

As mentioned to Kuo again, they will "revolve around the idea of valuable contribution to the Wiki as opposed to needlessly cluttering it for personal scores". Which is perfectly reasonable, and clearly in line with the Wiki spirit : to genuinely contribute to the greater whole, rather than compromising it for individual satisfaction.

In short, only confirmed dead weighs will be dropped, as they should be, and the collective nature of the decisions will ensure that personal tastes are kept in check, and that objective reasoning prevails.

For the records, at least half a dozen powers I created were deleted of my own initiative (ask Kuo), when it became clear to me that said pages didn’t contribute enough to the Wiki. Some users still liked them, and I’m sorry for letting them down, but the pages just weren’t contributive enough.

So I’m not being unfair to other users, and actually practice what I preach.

I will keep in mind the potential ramifications between deletion candidates and contributive powers, so we don’t end up sawing the branches they are hanging from ^ ^; Feel free to bring them up afterwards in case we missed it.

DYBAD (talk) 07:15, July 12, 2017 (UTC)

Using Telepathy across vast distances is one thing, reading billions of minds at once is another.

DYBAD (talk) 03:15, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Don't worry, it will make sense soon. DYBAD (talk) 03:18, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Contradiction
You realized you just contradicted your statement by pointing out that Remote Telepathy is Cosmic Telepathy after saying Omni-Telepathy shouldn't be changed.

I'm currently trying to get Kuo to merge Omni-Telepathy and Metapathy as there is no real reason as to why they should be separate.

I compare the power leveling by how Telekinesis and Telepathy relate to each other, they are like equals, Telepathy is brains and Telekinesis is Bronze.

There is a ladder that I thought up on their respective leveling scales

Telekinesis to Telepathy

Omnikinesis to Omni-Telepathy

??? to Metapathy

Like Metapathy sticks out like a sore thumb and Omnikinesis is already manipulate everything so why is Omni-Telepathy cosmic scale and not omni scaled like it should be.CrabHermit (talk) 03:34, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

That's the thing, I am trying to alter Omni-Telepathy to be able to connect to infinite minds and it can have a also called (which it does btw) of Meta Telepathy.

If we have users that don't meet the standard of infinite we can put them on regular Telepathy as Advanced users and not have a separate pageCrabHermit (talk) 03:42, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Seriously? I am trying to be cooperative and explain my point of view and you are just spitting on it like that? I have valid points of views and you just want to dismiss them with a simple "answer is no"... Please at least bring a proper argument to the table as to why Metapathy shouldn't be merged with Omni-Telepathy, Please. CrabHermit (talk) 03:47, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Try undoing my hard work and you will be blocked immediately.

Consider yourself warned. DYBAD (talk) 03:52, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

That's a talk for Kuo and me to have. I already explained the perfectly sound reasoning behind the changes, and I'm now waiting for his perspective on the matter. I suggest you show the same patience. DYBAD (talk) 04:04, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

I think users that would only be able to control billions of minds at once or fit only in their respective reality would fit in "Master Level", like Absolute Level needs to be removed and stuff from there need to be put in Ultimate Level, like how Omnikinesis is in Ultimate Level on Telekinesis.CrabHermit (talk) 04:05, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Join the Chat
I'm a user and you're a user. We both can't tell each other what to do and what not to do without authority and it would be treated as a childish squabble. So how about we both talk this over in the chat without spamming each others Talk Pages if possible.

I'm inviting DYBAD to join it too although I'm not sure he will join or not.CrabHermit (talk) 04:11, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

Omni-Telepathy is the almighty version of Telepathy of course it's an application. Do not undo my edits and ask Kuo on who's right and who's wrong because I won't back down.CrabHermit (talk) 05:35, July 16, 2017 (UTC)

You could use that same logic with Mountain Creation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:29, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Interesting idea, go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:22, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

"Network" is a particularly broad concept when not taken in a restrictive contextual sense, though. Pretty much any form of remotely organised phenomena could be considered a network, as almost all of them are made of smaller ones interacting with each other in a network-like relation, even powers which are basically supernatural programs.

Taken in a large sense, "network" doesn't seem to have a tangible existence/identity of its own, and is rather a vague semantical idea that could take virtually any form and achieve most anything in practice (so nothing really of its own).

Unless there is a way to narrow it down and anchor the power in a handful of core applications, that would really make "Network Manipulation" a power of its own, rather than an featureless bag of semantic loopholes.

DYBAD (talk) 04:37, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

How would you make it separate and unique ? By making it a case-by-case power, maybe ? Like, something has to be clearly identified as a network before it can be manipulated ? It could work this way, a swiss knife power that still retains its own identity by clearly asserting its jurisdiction beforehand, giving its application a factual legitimacy that can't be contested. DYBAD (talk) 05:04, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

The issue is vagueness rather than broadness, and their tendency to come together ^ ^; Umbrella Powers for example are defined as versatile amalgams of related powers, rather than featureless bags of unrelated tricks. DYBAD (talk) 05:14, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead then, but please do try to make it unique, in a coherent and convincing way.

DYBAD (talk) 05:29, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

Hmm... there is truth in that, I'm probably expecting too much even if the purpose itself is legitimate. A compromise would indeed be preferable to strangling users' creativity with excessive standards. We have to draw some lines though, so that users actually put thoughts and efforts in new pages, rather than spamming vague ideas or copycat variants.

Hmm... what about "useful and special" as core requirement ? Seems to be the essence of a good power.

DYBAD (talk) 06:35, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

hello
hey sagem, can this abaility be destroyed by absolute destruction?

Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot (talk) 16:23, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

Immutability? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:41, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

Please do not answer on behalf of the Admins. My message was for Kuo. Not for you. Kusarigama (talk) 10:07, July 25, 2017 (UTC)

Power Reclamation - tricky but usable, needs good explanation.

Regenerative Shapeshifting - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

hello
do you mind to post here?

Mysterymist the omnipotent interplanetary idiot (talk) 13:00, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Would this include Astronomical Object Manipulation, Cosmic Manipulation and Nature Manipulation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:02, July 29, 2017 (UTC)

Power Anchoring
You sure?

On Enhanced Power Borrowing, in the limitations it says that Power Anchoring users are immune and I do believe in power anchoring's capabilities it does say etc... on how it makes sure users keep their powers.CrabHermit (talk) 03:11, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Point, but Power Borrowing still falls under Power Replication and/or Power Absorption even if the original users still have access.

Power Anchoring is like the power-only version of Singularity which guarantees that nobody else can use the user's powers as long as they have anchoring.

So far I can only see Power Anchoring covering Power Borrowing since it's still power-altering.CrabHermit (talk) 03:26, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Got it, even if it doesn't make sense to have that limitation there.CrabHermit (talk) 04:04, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Doable.

Alternative Communication - special/secret/unique communication method?

Skeleton/Bone Tribe - all things considered, I think you've have to do with skeleton physiology, but add the note that they are fully living on the Users. If you're adding pic, longer explanation would be added there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:32, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Might be expanded to ability to communicate without change to being understood/overheard? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Works for me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:26, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

That's actually very good question. As it is written yes, but may need Limitation that some may not be able to do so. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:54, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Oneiric/Dream Lock - needs really good description but go ahead.

Retroactive Destruction - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:05, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Bit too specific I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:38, July 31, 2017 (UTC)

Doable but needs some series explanation. This is absolute mind-twister when you start to think about it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:38, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

Can you please look at your edits thoroughly before submitting them? Summonging/Banishment is at the bottom of the applications. CrabHermit (talk) 19:40, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

Undid his last try, let's see if that gets through. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:18, August 2, 2017 (UTC)

Name tells nothing about the power and the definition is bad, but idea is interesting. Work on those two and you got a deal. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:34, August 5, 2017 (UTC)

Answer on Kuo's Talk Page. DYBAD (talk) 07:42, August 6, 2017 (UTC)

Process Continuation is bit less clunky.

Have fun there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:30, August 7, 2017 (UTC)

I have vague feeling we have something similar, but I could be wrong... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

Bit too close to those two I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, August 17, 2017 (UTC)

Name may cause confusion, but idea is good. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:32, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:07, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

It's a application.
OK, then how come Sound Magic has Sound Manipulation as a application? or how come Shadow Magic has Darkness Manipulation? because these forms of magic respectively manipulate this capabilities, such as how Darkness Manipulation is the same as Shadow Magic but the catch is, it's magic. CrabHermit (talk) 06:45, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

OK, I am going to keep my edit then, if you undo it I will just tell Kuo to lock the page. CrabHermit (talk) 06:49, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

If you absolutely insist on keeping it the way you want it to be, you will have to take up with Kuo as I believe i'm right and you believe that you're right so we need an admin figure to settle this, until then, Please refrain from undoing my edits and take it up with Kuo. CrabHermit (talk) 06:52, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

I have a bunch of references to my edits, even if the "capabilities (according to you)" say something on what you think it says, the way I read the capabilities on this is "The user is capable of using music to perform magical feats...." So, the use can manipulate music to perform magical feats? That means Music Manipulation should go into the associations?

I'm fairly confident Kuo won't automatically side with you but he will side with someone who can bring a argument to the table rather then "It's a association, so it belongs in the associations" instead of "Oh, all other magic powers are exactly the same as what I said so thing belongs here." CrabHermit (talk) 06:56, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

That is my bad, you can go ahead and add those back if you want to but I don't want you removing Music Manipulation until Kuo gives his opinion. CrabHermit (talk) 07:05, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

Most of Category:Form of magic have the power they are Variations in the Applications for the very simple reason that they do the same thing, only via magic. See Season Magic for example.

And no, I don't always agree with you. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:02, August 19, 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for letting me know. CrabHermit (talk) 03:20, August 20, 2017 (UTC)

I know. And he told me yes. Well, now that you've spoken up, I'll allow YOU to do the power if you wish to do it yourself. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:54, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

Omniscience? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:38, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

Memory Implantation --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:19, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

Portal Creation --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:37, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

Say, are you going to do Background Manipulation? Kuo allows it. I spoke with him, and he says it is fine if you do it. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:06, August 21, 2017 (UTC)

Isn't that basically Reality Warping? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:59, August 22, 2017 (UTC)

I didn't know we have limited RW that much. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:15, August 22, 2017 (UTC)

It goes beyond that, as it doesn't deal with the frequency of movement, which Frequency Manipulation mainly deals with, plus it includes other planes of existences. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:21, August 22, 2017 (UTC)

Honestly, that is now how I intended it to be, or at least thought of when I made that power. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:29, August 22, 2017 (UTC)

1. Physics Creation - needs better name as physics creation doesn't really tell what it does, but go ahead.

2. Energy Connection - doable

3. Extra-Dimensional Energy Manipulation - Extra-Dimensional Energy Generation includes Manipulation?

4. Physical Law Inversion - doable

5. Fictional Erasure Destruction/4th Wall Erasure/Destruction - Fantasy Connecting? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:08, August 22, 2017 (UTC)

Form you can't see/perceive (Imperceptibility) or something that your mind refuses to conceive? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

You Cannot Grasp the True Form? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:55, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

We have power with the pic of Galactus form YCGtTF as the main pic. Can't remember the name tho. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:00, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:54, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Sense Inversion - Synesthesia?

Reality Crossroads/Path - special effect of Planeswalking? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:19, August 24, 2017 (UTC)

Basically Sense Replacement?

Would those paths be at least semi-permanent/usable for others? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, August 24, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun with both. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:27, August 24, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:02, August 24, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, August 25, 2017 (UTC)

hey sage, can you shatter objects via Vibration Manipulation

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 19:22, August 25, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

It makes User manifestation of ones willpower and imagination... without exceptions. In other words, every User is tulpa. Put it on Variations if you have to. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:59, August 26, 2017 (UTC)

Would that include only all around sense or also distance? Or did you plan to make them separate powers? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:31, August 27, 2017 (UTC)

Separating them might be the clearest way. Not all Users would have both after all. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:06, August 27, 2017 (UTC)

Expand that to Color Intensity Manipulation (or something less clunky) and include ability to fade colors and you got a deal. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

OK, can you do me a quick favor, can you add Personal Physical Powers category to all the breath pages? since I'm personally confused and conflicted on whether to remove or keep them there, there is a Category:Breath-Based Powers and that pretty much covers better than Category:Personal Physical Powers and Category:Bodily Functional Powers, plus it falls under Bodily Functional so it does seem better to have but I'll leave it up to you. CrabHermit (talk) 20:51, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

Never mind, I'll do it.CrabHermit (talk) 20:55, August 28, 2017 (UTC)

I'm telling this right now so I don't have to clean up messes tomorrow when I come back: ''12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page.'' If it goes for third edit mover the same thing, TALK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:40, August 31, 2017 (UTC)

Posting warning like that gives Admin option of calling it blatant flaunting of rules and slapping punishment. We do have that rule for a reason after all.

Murder Embodiment - have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, September 1, 2017 (UTC)

SHIT, the Villains Wiki sometimes has to have information that's false, doesn't it? ChocolateElemental (talk) 21:44, September 2, 2017 (UTC)

Midora's Hungry Space
Go check your sources before you start babbling things again, Sage. Don't you remember how you thought Choujabaru manipulates probability, but in fact all he could do was being completely impartial?

http://toriko.wikia.com/wiki/Midora#Techniques

"An immensely powerful offensive technique born from Midora's Hungry Tongue technique. His Hungry Tongue is revealed not only to consume solid objects, but absolutely every single atom its tip touches, swallowing even the air itself and thus leaving vacuums in the paths of trajectory it takes..."

Hungry Space is Midora consuming atoms with his super fast tongue. Do you want scans, or will you believe me this time? --Solipsius (Dreamer) (talk) 21:32, September 3, 2017 (UTC)

Sure. Then please show me scan that shows that he is in fact TASTING stuff with the vacuum he creates with his Hungry Space... Go for it. --Solipsius (Dreamer) (talk) 22:11, September 3, 2017 (UTC)

But where's the tasting part?? Sure, Hungry Space can devour and erase all matter it touches, but where's the tasting part? Unless you can somehow prove that he can taste the stuff his Hungry Space erases... --Solipsius (Dreamer) (talk) 22:15, September 3, 2017 (UTC)

I'm letting you know that in Supernatural Reflexes, I did an alphabetical order.

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:00, September 5, 2017 (UTC)

Beecause some of them are european dragons and other are other dragon types.

You don't mind if Stretchability and Compressability are created, do you? The are the power to stretch/extend one's body and compress/compact one's body respectively. Both would be sub-powers of Elasticity. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:39, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Seriously? That power shouldn't have magic as applications but it's supposed to be a replica of Life Creation except a Effect Field Projection variation... I don't quite understand your reasoning of "This is wrong because I said so" logic, but it's your power so go nuts I guess. CrabHermit (talk) 19:41, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Lifeless Body Creation can kinda fit as it's like Life Creation but the beings that are capable of being alive without a soul or brain function, kinda like a weird limbo so it does fit. CrabHermit (talk) 19:50, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Say, has Actuality Manipulation been done before? It is a the ability to manipulate actualities and potentialities, what may become and what actually is. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:57, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:47, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

"Since you very obviously haven't been paying attention to the series you claim to be your favorite, I suggest you go back and actually watch the series itself."

Million thanks for your support, SageM. Since you absolutely have all the truth in the world and win our argument every time by providing indeniable evidences, I greatly appreciate your knowledge about my most favourite series. I should also inform you that despite you might be using the anime to support every one of your claims, anime is not considered canon and is universally hated by all the Toriko fans, especially the part where Midora and Ichiryuu fought. Not that it would make any difference to support your wonderful arguments.

Have a nice day, SageM. --Solipsius (Dreamer) (talk) 20:52, September 9, 2017 (UTC)

omniperception IS NOT covered by any other power.

actually no its not, thats omniCHRONAL perception, a totally different power

so once again where is omniperception?

Alphabetical order
Powers are alphabetised by the first word but people by last name, unless they're better known for a code name in which case they're alphabetised by that. This is on many pages of the wiki, here's 883 of them I've been working on. Evil-Tree (talk) 05:01, September 10, 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:32, September 12, 2017 (UTC)

Done ^ ^ DYBAD (talk) 02:37, September 13, 2017 (UTC)

Huh. Okay.

We don't have this already? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:12, September 15, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:23, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

1. Luck Augmentation- doable

2. Meta Jinxed- too specific

3. Virtual Life Creation- doable

4. Twinned Existence- too specific

Machine/Robotic Form/Mode - make it general technology as I don't think we have that one. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:24, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

I had a similar idea...
Similar to your Art Design/Style Manipulation power. However, it applied more to the real world than pieces of art. Do you mind if I still create that power, even if yours gets approved? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:31, September 16, 2017 (UTC)

Art Design/Style Manipulation - so basically manipulation of visual arts? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:27, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Eh, that is more like a physiology/mimicry power. We have had powers like Dragon Physiology and Dragon Mode, as well as Ghost Physiology and Ghost Mode coexist with each other, so why not? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:20, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Being computer illiterate that won't help anything.

Might want to report to Community Central. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:40, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Hypersensation info?
Hi, do have any information on the power of Hypersensation? A character in my story has it, but I'm not sure what the exact definition could be. I searched it on the wiki but I can't seem to find it. Does go by something else on here. I only ask because I'd like to know what my character's power is to its full extent. Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance

User:MdaCHARMED2016 06:28, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. But remember that in mythology quite a few one sides divine beings are others demons. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Quality Sense - have fun.

Role Perception - make that Purpose Perception and go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:26, September 23, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:02, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

Why tho?
Sage? Might I have an honest, non-hater question?

Why do you always argue SO MUCH about Toriko and Medaka Box, even though you are never right. It's just that I can't seem to understand your objective, why do you always do this. I'm really curious and it really boggles my mind.

Thanks. --Solipsius (Dreamer) (talk) 16:01, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

I'm posting this to both SageM and Loving servant as you both are/were involved with Entity Creations last Edit mess.

After talking with Ls I thought about EC a bit and came to conclusion that it is doing work of several powers and none of them well. As is, it's pretty much Constructs Creation with addition of being independent/programmable while leaving the entity/creature part as barely more than mention, and that's the reason it's on Constructs Creation. It's also in Attack Powers but only making the blast shaped into certain shape doesn't really add anything.

Basically my thinking is that EC is reworked so it and its Variations go back to purely creature/entity creation and new power that deals with independent/programmable powers is done.

I think we either need to do third which would allow the shaping of attacks to larger effect to AP, or the whole thing is simply removed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:40, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

There is no need for him to demonstrate it. He ate NEWS. And NEWS grants ANYONE who eats it (and possesses Gourmet Cells) the ability to create Back Channels. Just like PAIR changes gender and ANOTHER discovers new flavors and awakens the forgotten ones, NEWS gives this ability to EVERYONE who can taste it and has Gourmet Cells. Komatsu has Gourmet Cells and even an Appetite Demon. There is no reason for him to NOT have this ability.

So unless you have proof against what is stated right here: http://toriko.wikia.com/wiki/Komatsu/Abilities#Appetite_Demon

Then you should stay away from what you clearly don't know anything about...--Solipsius (Dreamer) (talk) 19:53, September 24, 2017 (UTC)

Just to check, what's your opinion about the Entity Creation in my last post? Personally I think that removing all mentions of other than creature from introduction and the independence part in Capabilities would be the basic level.

Will Embodiment - doable.

Soul Imprinting - sounds bit broader than soul to me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:36, September 25, 2017 (UTC)

Completely forgot about PP, thanks for reminding.

Remember the "As is, it's pretty much Constructs Creation with addition of being independent/programmable while leaving the entity/creature part as barely more than mention, and that's the reason it's on Constructs Creation" part I mentioned? If we add PP to EC, it doesn't fix that problem. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:33, September 25, 2017 (UTC)

That wouldn't fix the problem I mentioned: we don't have power that creates elemental creatures without making them programmable/independent and Entity Creations include more than the creatures.

From the page "create beings from various substances or shape them to certain shapes"/"User is able to create beings of various substances or shape existing substances into wanted shapes and purposes". What I'm talking about is removing the parts in italics and chancing the power to purely creature/being creation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:52, September 25, 2017 (UTC)

Magical variation of Health Manipulation basically? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:15, September 27, 2017 (UTC)

Doable, remember to add it to Abjuration. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:54, September 27, 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead with both. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, September 28, 2017 (UTC)

... What? When did I say anything like "you have to have Gourmet Cells so that spices enhance foods"?? Gourmet Cells enhance the flavor of the food itself. It doesn't matter who it eats. Which means that ANY spice, including Melk Stardust, works just like a spice - enhances the taste of the food. If you want to count in Melk Stardust, you'll have to count in EVERY spice in Toriko. Because all spices enhance taste. The reason? They contain Gourmet Cells.

So I don't see a reason why Melk Stardust would have to be mentioned apart from every other food and spice containing Gourmet Cells.--Solipsius (Dreamer) (talk) 14:47, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

Man, I can't even say how wrong you are. How about you stop arguing with me, when you lost every argument?? How can you say you have read all of the manga and then say something like that NEWS allows you to eat dirt and glass...

Just imagine Gordon Ramsey yelling "It's ANOTHER, you donkey!!!" at you and stop arguing about something you don't know anything about. I won't waste time teaching trolls like you about how Gourmet Cells work. Just the basic, primitive thing, the fact that Nitro and Appetite Demons are made out of Gourmet Cells and have existed billions of years before the Earth has been born should tell even an ignorant person like you, that Gourmet Jellyfish is not the source of Gourmet Cells.--Solipsius (Dreamer) (talk) 17:57, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

Blah blah blah, you are wrong, you are wrong.

Seriously, how old are you? Wikia doesn't frickin' matter, do you understand that?? There's a ton of information missing on Toriko wiki, even to this week, they still had the Area 0 divided from Food Field, even though they are the exact same thing. And who corrected it? I did.

Anyways, if you claim to be such a Toriko all-knowing master, you certainly know, that Gourmet Cells were introduced into the Earth by Nitro, so that it could be cooked. This is done by shooting the planet with an Appetite Energy-filled rock. This rock grows through the planet and all ingredients and life on it grow from the deliciousness (also called Life Force) of the Gourmet Cells. The Gourmet Cells ARE IN THE PLANET.

All the claims like "Gourmet Cells are harnessed only from the Gourmet Jellyfish" are super old and have been retconned looong time ago. Gourmet Cells are just manifestation of Appetite Energy. Appetite Energy is deliciousness, and all the living things, all the taste of the world, it all comes from this very delicousness. Gourmet Cells are building blocks upon which all life, all the regular cells stand. And EVERYTHING in Gourmet World contains Gourmet Cells. All the Eight Kings, all the powerful species, they don't have the Gourmet Cells inserted in their bodies. They are born with them, they exist within the system all built on Gourmet Cells.

And now, on this final matter, you dared to dictate me that I cannot say anything on this matter because I am wrong. I shall repay you the kindness and dictate you, that you tell me, how the h*ll you dare argue with me about all these basic things when EVERY OTHER Toriko-related argument you had with me, you lost. Terribly lost. Answer me.

I am awaiting your answer and until you make a valid point, Melk Stardust will be kept from the page. --Solipsius (Dreamer) (talk) 18:16, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

As I don't know much about Toriko, I can only ask that you two keep it between yourself before trying to edit the page again. I'd prefer not to lock the page before you two have it hammered out.

That aside, I have to agree that retconning is a thing and if later story changes details go for the last facts. If nothing else helps to bring you into agreement, you might want to bring it to Toriko-wikia as they are likely to be the ones with best/latest canon. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:32, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

OK, since there was post between my reading/posting the answer: please provide evidence in form of page you base your opinions. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:34, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

You'rcvce being immature by shouting things like "You cannot say anything else on this matter because you are wrong" and "stop making stuff up that clearly isn't true". Evidence is the fact that Nitro infusedThePlanetItselfWithTheGourmetCells,WhichAlsoMeansTheyInfusedTheGroundAndRocksWithGourmetCells,AndBesidesThat,ThereAreSuperLotOfInstancesOfBeastsUsingGourmetCellsForRegeneration,LikeTheEightKings,TheFactThatAppetiteDemonsAndTheNitroThemselvesSayTheyAreMadeOfGourmetCells.

YouKnowWhat?IDon'tCareHowWrongInfoYou'reGonnaHaveOnThisSite.ILiveMyLittleDreamOnTorikoFanFictionWikiaAndIDon'tHaveToShareMyKnowledgeOfMyMostFavoriteMangaWithAnyOfYouGuys.AndYeah,MySpacebarBroke,MyFrickinSpacebar,OnMyFrickin3,000DollarLaptop,SoYeah,I'mPissed,I'mPissedAsHell,I'mRageQuitting,I'mOutOfPatience.

IWishYouGuysAllLuckWithYourBigCoolWikia.IWalkALonelyRoadOnMyAlmostDeadWikia.Oh,HappyThatLuckyMe...--Solipsius (Dreamer) (talk) 19:24, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:40, September 30, 2017 (UTC)

not sure about if we have something like that or if existing powers get bit too close. Might want to check around if you can find anything similar in Category:Dimensional Powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:30, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Nah, Enhanced Recovery doesn't necessarily refill one's energy. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 07:57, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Weaponry/Weapon Embodiment - too specific.

Effect Simulation - what would this do in practice? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:13, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

thats for concrete right? also are there any users with Titanium Mimicry?

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 04:45, October 5, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

its quite alright, I think i found the word im looking for. though im trying to find a user of Titanium Mimicry?

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 04:57, October 5, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

See, on the ParasitePhysiology page the symbiotes from Marvel didn't really count as users because they could survive on their own without a host while parasites can't. Yet they do feed off of adrenaline but they don't need a host. I worded that wrong but you should know what I mean.20:47, October 5, 2017 (UTC)20:47, October 5, 2017 (UTC)Who am I again?

Guess that is a valid point. But,how often is there a parasite that could take the form of a humanoid and a pile of goop and not even need a host?Who am I again? (talk) 21:35, October 5, 2017 (UTC)Who am I again?

P.S You got me beat just too lazy to try and keep arguing.

Correction: Pit got replicated by the Mirror of Truth when he tried to destroy it. Just happens that Pit’s image was reflected on it when he got close. Why remove it from the Known Objects if the Mirror acts on its own? Crazylatin77 (talk)

Hello
I was wondering if you could help me out with something.

I suggested to Kuopiofi a power idea that's the opposite of Multi-Status Infliction; rather than multiple debuffs at once, it's multiple status buffs. But I ran into a slight problem.

I can't think of a name for it, and I'm not sure if my idea is already covered under Enhancement Calling. What do you think? Smijes08 (talk) 13:34, October 7, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:20, October 7, 2017 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page.

Please Talk it over instead of always going for edit/undo. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:30, October 8, 2017 (UTC)

I didn't remove World Connection I moved it, I felt it fit better with another category but you didn't like it. If Elemental Connection is off limits then leave whatever else I put on alone then, if there can't be a subjective thing then at least let me change it around to better fit the other stuff.Loxlie 35 (talk) 19:39, October 8, 2017 (UTC)

No, no, no infinity. Everytime you offer some backward rebutal to my claim it sounds alot like biting condecension. You keep saying repeatedly that it's totally different from what he does but Power Recycling fits perfectly with Yhwach. Because It Was His Power in the FIRST PLACE.

The Quincy, The Sternritter, everyone whom died and was integrated into his faction. All of their newfound power originally came from him in the first place, it's his energy, HIS quintessence with which they all gained their newfound power in the first place. And he can manipulate this bits and pieces of himself to either empower, transfer or even erase the abilities of his lesser kin on a dime.

WHenever he weakens or one of his own are killed, he can take back the power bestowed upon others to recuperate himself. He's done so repeatedly. If thats not Power Recycling then I dunno the meaning of the power, because I sure as hell know you obviously don't since The Almighty or his title as an Alpha of his clan enables this right down to the definition.Loxlie 35 (talk) 02:43, October 10, 2017 (UTC)

We don't have anything like that? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, October 10, 2017 (UTC)

I noticed you have multi-possession on your to-do list, Ino Yamanaka can do that with Mind Transfer Clone Jutsu.Squidbaby (talk) 01:41, October 11, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:03, October 15, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Sagem, Is tar manipulation a legitable power? I know some user that has this already Sasha (infamous) and Tap pit (The flash)

and also pretty sure it is different from oil

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 03:24, October 16, 2017 (UTC)nickthebrick1

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:38, October 17, 2017 (UTC)

Charm/Charisma Mode - go ahead.

No such power, but limiting it to items sounds bit weak. Travel Empowerment perhaps, or gaining power from Planar shift? I know both happen in comics/manga. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, October 18, 2017 (UTC)

Samhain
There's no evidence that he could summon Leviathans, that's downright speculation if not opinion. Not to mention they were in Purgatory at the time, which was evidently extremely hard to access. Not to mention not even being a concept in the show (at that time, the show was supposed to last 5 seasons).

In any case, nothing supports him being GODLIKE. There's not proof that he's immune to the Demon Killing Knife, considering he was only cut with it, There's nothing to prove one way or the other that he couldn't be killed by it if he was stabbed with it. All you got is speculation, nothing more.

The only confirmed thing you have said was his ability to summon ghosts and zombies. We'll never know what else he could summon since he was quickly exorcised and sent back to Hell before anything else showed up. Again, all we can do is speculate, nothing more. Just like his weakness to the knife, we can't say for sure. (the SPN wikia, for example don't list him as immune for the same reason. They list it as "possible", but not definite. It's just speculation at this point)

Might have repeated myself there, but the point still stands. Speculation does not equal canon. His strength against the Knights (and now Princes) is speculation, as his is vulnerability to the knife. That's all I'm saying. Nothing in his short time supports him being transcendent. Powerful, yes, but not transcendent.Gabriel456 (talk) 21:09, October 18, 2017 (UTC)

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;">I appreciate your reply, but I do disagree with it. I actually took the time to review both Almighty Magic and Almighty Science and researched what was listed under Almighty Science, which was the better defined page, and found the correlating magical powers. The changes I made were meant to broaden the core elements of a very expansive ability. I don't believe you took time to note my changes and arbitrarily reverted the page. Also, I take umbrage at your threat, especially since it is foundless and I made no changes to anyone's message and tantrums such as this only lead to the presumption that you are either too immature or insecure.

<span style="color:rgb(45,45,45);font-size:14.08px;font-weight:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">Also don't edit other peoples messages on talk pages, Seriously. Do it again and its an automatic block by the admins.SageM (talk)SageM

<span style="color:rgb(45,45,45);font-size:14.08px;font-weight:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;">Aurakle (talk) 21:30, October 18, 2017 (UTC) Aurakle

"Conceivably" being the operative word there. and Sam isn't flawless, he has been wrong before. and it doesn't mean for a absolute fact that he can summon anything and everything. It's just possible he could, but it's not 100%.

Still doesn't prove his transcendent status, all it proves that he can summon a lot of creatures. Doesn't make him godlike. Again, all we can do is speculate. But he's nowhere as powerful as you're claiming he is. The Princes of Hell could be stronger, for all we know. Or Lilith or Alastair. But we don't know for sure.

I'm sorry, but my decision stands. Nothing in the show screams "he has godlike demonic power", and that's that. Gabriel456 (talk) 21:40, October 18, 2017 (UTC)

Dude, The Monado can slice through anything that the symbol in the sword represents at any given moment unless the symbol in question has to do with a status effect I.E monado purge, as its stated in game that the monado's ablilty's are in sync with the user's Will, making it able to slice through any one thing at a time.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 22:09, October 18, 2017 (UTC)

Isn't that pretty much Augmentation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:38, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

By aspects you mean (Change age, appearance, ethnicity, eye, hair and/or skin color, gender, height, memory, race, voice, weight, etc.) this list? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:58, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

Aside of race the physical side is covered by Biological Manipulation, mental side is covered by Mind Control. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:17, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

Gold experience requiem's ability is meant to turn any process back to 0, in which would have to include defence's, for example if someone picked up a shield and tried using it against requiem's attacks he could just use GER to bring the prosses of acquiring the defence back to 0 I.E as if he never picked up the shield in the first place, therefore using this logic it should be added.

look at my last messege i forgot to signThe Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 03:42, October 20, 2017 (UTC)

yes you are right when it comes to actions but you left 2 things out: processes and willpower, the willpower part speaks for itself but any "processes" that an opponent uses will be brought back to 0 as well as, just like with any actions and their willpowerThe Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 03:51, October 20, 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:13, October 20, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:31, October 20, 2017 (UTC)

Omnicompetence? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:27, October 21, 2017 (UTC)

Illusionary effect basically?

Would Blur-like effects come under it? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:40, October 21, 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:58, October 21, 2017 (UTC)

Eternal Curse - Considering nothing on Curse Inducement goes against the things you mentioned, those could basically be Limitations.

Principle Embodiment - go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:26, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

imoto said it can stay so im putting it back, plus principles are not concepts thats why i put it there and why she agrees with meThe Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 19:31, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

Dang! Should have seen that coming. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:48, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:23, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

Enhanced Muscle Usage - doable.

Authority Manipulation - doable, but how exactly would it be opposite to omniarch? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

I was getting to that, you fool.

Doable if bit limited. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, October 27, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, guess I shouldn't have gone by Kuo's word there, and the only reason I changed it to Physical Law Negation was because I was planning to make that power for some time, while forgetting about Physics Negation. My bad.

Though should we change Cheating's name to Rule Breaking, just in case? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:49, October 27, 2017 (UTC)

Doable, go ahead.

Platform Mimicry? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, October 28, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, October 28, 2017 (UTC)

Fail-Safe Creation - Pretty much covered by the time-specific version of this.

Source Manipulation - Origin Manipulation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:46, October 28, 2017 (UTC)

Death Physiology - call it something else, like lethal physiology, and have a go.

Hunger Empowerment - depends really: hunger isn't just about needing sustenance, it's the sensation of that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:31, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

Spiny Slasher (talk) 05:58, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

Sry was just trying to change an image and the link ended up being faulty.

Do we have anything that deals only with physical side of Enhanced Condition? I have vague memory of something like that... --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:00, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

Transcendent Mage Physiology: how can one possess omnipotent powers as Almighty Magic and Magic Transcendence when the power defines it's limits as "nearly limitless magical power"? Aurakle (talk) 19:56, October 30, 2017 (UTC) Aurakle

You're explanation seems to underscore that the other Transcendent Physiologies are over-stated rather than support the inclusion of the almigty powers. If the almights powers are to be included then the Transcendent Physiology in questions should be "omnipotent" rather than "nearly unlimited power". Aurakle (talk) 20:08, October 30, 2017 (UTC) Aurakle

Alignment/Disposition Embodiment/Necessity Embodiment/Transition Manipulation - doable

Non-Morality - bit too close to MT. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:44, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

Magic embodiment is an application on several entries; why undo any of my edits particularly magic lordship and Empowerment which are completely inline with entry? Aurakle (talk) 04:23, October 31, 2017 (UTC)Aurakle

I just checked Omni-Magic and neither Magic lordship or magic Empowerment are listed, maybe they are implied but that is unreliable I’ll reinstate lordship and empowerment so it will be accurately noted. I think we could agree on that.

I really assure you that most of my additions are right, if you do not remember well some articulations or you're to lazy too lazy to lock for them is not my fault!

Anyway okay, I stop but, you say it, you're a little poor hysterical, bye bye.

I would never have told that you were one of those antipatical fanboys, conviced knowing absolutely everything. Magik097

Just to let you know, before adding something on a wiki I go straight to look the OFFICAL source (example; the chapters online of the Fairy Tail manga). Magik097

And this shows both your poor memory and you complete ignorance! A small first clue, what did Jellal give to Natsu in the Nirvana saga? A small second clue, why Jelal can use Abyss Break? Magik097

Look, I just wanted to try to give you a hand, if it was not good for you the changes I could send a message right away to spell out my point of view from that other wiki.

Instead, you've preferred to make me discourage by erasing all my commitment, my research, and the fruitful search and not inventing something that you think.

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, November 1, 2017 (UTC)

For esoteric entries, I actually followed the links on the pages that define esoteric energy and incorporated the definition into the description. I did not add any properties not already included or change the applications to any extent. The current definitions are just stating that the ability is esoteric without any context. It's like say the definition of magic is "to use magic"; it provides no knowledge.

My apologies I forgot to sign my comment Aurakle (talk) 05:12, November 2, 2017 (UTC) Auakle

Mid-Air Combat - doable.

Movement Swapping/Switching - don't the existing powers already cover this? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, November 3, 2017 (UTC)

If igneel and acnologia count, then he would easily count.

Count Vlad III dracula (talk) 23:27, November 3, 2017 (UTC)

Omni-Directional Attacks - don't we already have this?

Breath Healing - doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:40, November 4, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:25, November 5, 2017 (UTC)

Recoiling is mainly pushing back, not necessarily knocking down, and the user could be unable to be knocked down and still be moved otherwise, so it is not exactly Immobility. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 04:18, November 6, 2017 (UTC)

Ok sure, Absolute Evasion I can see, but just simply Evasion? I'd say Absolute Attack would bypass Evasion and it would be highly undetermend against Absolute Evasion.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 03:54, November 9, 2017 (UTC)

I changed it because thats not how OMNI POWERS work, omni means "all" so "all" senses means they can sense everything everywhere including the omniverse. what if there was something outside of the universe or in another one? they should still be able to sense it.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 18:27, November 14, 2017 (UTC)

How am I NOT ​sopposed to take that definition as a downgrade of what the titel entails? its an Omni power, and omnipowers are sopposed to mean "ALL" of the power, and in this case it would be "ALL SENSES", I.E its range of how far the users senses can reach should be infinite if nothing else. what its described as right now contradicts what an OMNI POWER is as in its limited to only ONE universe and TBH if there is not an upgraded version of this power already that describes what I put then it would be only logical to it changed back. if there IS ​one (one that lets you sense stuff outside of the universe or multiverse) then I ask if you could link it in your responce.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 19:36, November 14, 2017 (UTC)

Kuo is fine with the Time Gem being in Time Embodiment just like with all of my edits with the infinity gems so keep it there, besides each gem is and embodiment of the aspect of existence each one represents and has infinite control over said aspect of existence. so im adding it back.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 06:30, November 15, 2017 (UTC)

Not really how? take the Power Gem for example it embodies Power itself, if your opponent is 10 decillion (thats a real word and number) times more powerful then you BUT you have the power gem then you instantly surpass him infinitly in power alone, so yes the gems qualify.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 07:05, November 15, 2017 (UTC)

Also yes I might have screwed something up editing the power manifestation page but if you saw what I (tried) to put I'd like to ask that you add it back (the right way) because we both know that each infinity gem individualy represents one aspect of existense, and you out of all people know I was right about the Triforce pieces with power,wisdom,courageThe Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 07:11, November 15, 2017 (UTC)

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Nemesis_(Cosmic_Being)_(Earth-93060)  In both that link and in the pages of the comics themselves states that a being called nemesis committed suicide as a result of becoming incredibly lonely, and by doing such created the Marvel Multiverse along with each set of 6 (sometimes 7) infinity gems that appered in every universe, meaning each gem DOES embody an aspect of existence that came about from the infinite multiversal big bang that was nemesis's suicide: Nemesis being the embodiment of what would become the living multiverse at her death=each gem emboding an aspect of the existence that was created from the person that was ONCE THE EMBODIMENT OF THE GEMS HERSELF THAT WAS ALSO RESPONCIBLE FOR CREATING THE MULTIVERSE WITH SAID ASPECTS UPHOLDING THEIR (the infinite universe's) EXISTENCE. I ask that you watch this video to get a better view point of what im about to talk about https://youtu.be/1Z9fReGWArU (its about the infinity gems obviously) now it does not state my conclusion in the wikia or the comics, but the evidence to support my LOGIC comes simply from how something of such function and magnitude would work, if a being of such status as it was described in marvel to be was to commit suicide, and the act of doing so, created the multiverse itself and with the last of it reminants of its being becoming a set of (usually) 6 infinity gems across all universes in the multiverse, along with how they are said to work, would EASILY point to them being the embodiments of what they represent, which would in turn make sense as to why they are called the "infinity" gems in the first place, as they would be like little remote controls for each part of existence each one would embody, therefore giving it infinite control over it. I hope I didn't make that sound TOO confusing.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 08:19, November 15, 2017 (UTC)

What about Omni-Telepathy? its basically the Mind only version of unimind without the body and soul part so it would fit.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 20:48, November 15, 2017 (UTC)

Hello I have an idea for a new power but I don't know how to operate the page creation it is called transcendent Alchemy. It is a mixture of transcendent science, and magic its primary user is Father (Fullmetal Alchemist) because he is capable of creating personifications of the seven deadly sins, and almost absorbing god. It's powers are closely related to Alchemy but more advanced.

--Thee 1 creator (talk) 02:29, November 20, 2017 (UTC)

I don't see where it says Absolute Attacks can harm the userThe Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 02:35, November 21, 2017 (UTC)

Sage listen, Logic Mandate can dictate the rules "of ​logic", but even if you make it to where logic says you can't ignore logic it would be pointless because you would be trying to use something that never applied to the other guy in the first place, if that worked then they wouldn't have logic Defiance because they would still be bound by any sort of logic that Logic Mandate would dictate. its basically like this: no matter how much you change ​logic, ​its still logic​ so Logic Defiance would still defy and ignore it.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 04:29, November 22, 2017 (UTC)

I don't do the "because i say so thing" I want an actual reason as to why it stays first, it makes no sense to have something like that on there, does dictating the rules of a concept that never even applied to the other guy in the first place make much sense as a limitation? it needs to be taken off because it makes no sense as a limitation.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 04:49, November 22, 2017 (UTC)

I thought that about the omnipotence part too but then I see that Omnipotence VS Omnilock thing and then I wondered if people really get what Omnipotence really ​is (not really a power but a state of being) same with a LOT of other powers, so I felt the need to put Omnipotence in the limitations on just a ​few sections ​on this wiki.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:00, November 22, 2017 (UTC)

Existence Link - doable.

Identity Transferal - how's this connected to Possession? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, November 23, 2017 (UTC)

I think you might want to figure out different name (healing is bit weird), but otherwise doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:30, November 23, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:15, November 23, 2017 (UTC)

Keet? What is a keet? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:59, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

In that case, I guess Overenergeticness would be like a keet, except maybe without the smallness, cuteness, and being loud thing. You don't happen to have a problem with this, do you? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:05, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, if you say so. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:09, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

Say, do we have a power like Change Manipulation? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:17, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:36, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

Meh, Absoute Change is an absolute power, and Change Manipulation isn't, and Interaction Manipulation manipulates "reciprocal actions, effecst, or influences", not just change itself, so I don't think there should be a problem, honestly. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:45, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

Nah, it isn't that absolute. Can still be blocked and such. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:20, November 24, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:30, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

Heh heh heh! That sounds like a good idea! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:46, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

By the way, do you see any problems with the powers Probability Creation and Probability Destruction, the power to create and destroy probable events? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:31, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

Well? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:00, November 25, 2017 (UTC)

About Weakness Manipulation...
I thought it was covered by Limit Manipulation. You plan on editing the weakness part out of Limit Manipulation? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:14, November 26, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:29, November 26, 2017 (UTC)

1. Meta/Supreme Observation- doable

2. Inorganic Ingestion- doable

3. Natural Energy Generation- doable

4. Stone Scrying/Sight - doable

5. Defense Manipulation- doable

6. Candy Infusion- doable

7. Creative Source- doable

8. Enhanced Sneaking- doable

9. Aurora Mimicry/Physiology- doable

10. Partial Summoning- doable

11. Information/Guidance/Knowledge Source- doable

12. Weakness Manipulation- doable --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:03, November 26, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:38, November 27, 2017 (UTC)

Every user on the list can copy not just the powers but the status of other beings as well, just look at protege.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 20:22, November 27, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:58, November 27, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 04:10, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

You know that the only reason he couldn't become the new "One Above All" was because he was defeated before he could get to that point right? but anyways here's why I made the edit in the first place, he was able to copy the powers and status of The Living Tribunal AND the Pre-Retcon Beyonder (which BTW is Ultipotent meaning he is literally Omnipotent in the POWER category and Protege was able to copy that Omnipotent power) and if thats not enough to prove my point Eternity stated and I quote "Protégé will gain infinite omnipotence by himself in a certain amount of time" meaning that it matters not what powers he see's he ​will ​be able to copy it along with the status of what he mimics as long as they manifest before his eyes, the status part is self explainitory if you just look at the the picture that is used for Almighty Replication, HE LITERALLY BECAME THE LIVING TRIBUNAL. and while yes, he did not become the new "One Above All", like I said before that was simply because they defeated him before he could rise to such power, scathen the approver apparenty sneaked up behind him and used his powers on him while protege could not see him doing so, in turn taking away his powers and letting The Living Tribunal absorb Protege and kill him.

As for the Ultpotence in the Applications, I put that there because of the beyonder feat proving that if someone with that power can copy ​him​ out of all things, then they can rise to that power at max.

based on the evidence shown I see no reason the edit cannot stay.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:07, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

I thought Ultipotence was the power version of Omnipotence so how can there be a limit to what it can achieve?The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:19, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

Also shouldn't the limitation of singularity be taken off? The Living Tribunal was a prime example of the power but he was still copiedThe Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:23, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

Reality Level Manipulation / Matter Immunity - doable.

Dreamed Existence - details. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:25, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

please dont undo the ENTIRE edit though, even if the ultipotence thing won't work the other part of my edit will as we've just discussed.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:35, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, November 29, 2017 (UTC)

Process Speed Manipulation would cover much more than celestial bodies. Plus, Cosmic Time Manipulation would not affect the process speed of planets forming. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 05:47, November 29, 2017 (UTC)

How was that unnessesary? I was differentiating that the power only trancended concepts and not EVERYTHING in general.

I say those two are different. "Defeat usually implies that someone beat you, as in, "The troops were defeated". The troops were defeated by someone else, there was an obvious winner. Failure does not have to imply somebody else beating you." Besides, we have had powers with their names in the Also Called section of other powers but still had their own pages, like Creation Manipulation, which was before under the Also Called section of Absolute Will, and another power. I think it wouldn't hurt to give Failure Inducement its own power. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 04:57, November 30, 2017 (UTC)

Never mind. I found out Failure is a synonym of Defeat. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 05:04, November 30, 2017 (UTC)

Not everything that exists is a concept, not everything has to be thought up for it to be real, anyone can label anything as a concept if they don't know what they're taking about. Thats why I previously talked about why a "Truth" is not an Idea (or concept). All Principle's were there before any concept ever existed. here are just 2 reasons out of many more why principle's are not concepts, and therefore, are something that conceptual transendence cannot transend:

1. Principles are ​always true​ but Concepts can be false: for example the concept of the earth being flat, now of course this was something that people took as fact until it was proven wrong, and when it was proven that the earth was instead round it automaticly became a principle (or a truth) that the earth was round, not a concept, because it wasn't something that was thought up in someone's imagination as an "idea" or "notion", it was already the self evident cold hard TRUTH of reality wether people previously knew about it/liked it or not, basically Principles are facts but concepts are opinions which leads to my next point.

2. Truth cannot be seen in a different​ prespective for each person but an idea can be relative to each individuals pespective: the Truth cannot be left up to interpretation because if that was so then what's the point of it being self evidently fundamental? If a Truth was perfectly understood by some but others saw it in a different way then the others that saw it in a different way would not be seeing the truth, they would have created there own perspectives on reality instead of thee one TRUE self evident view that a select few see one in the same. like for instance take the lord of nightmares, if she truly is a user then everyone would see here ​IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY​, as there would be no abstract notion or idea that can apply to her, therefore no one would have a differing prepective of her based on ones unique individual interpretation.

So therefore users of conceptual transendence can transend any abstract idea formed by perspective, imagination or even logical thought, but something that was never thought up or was simply there from the beginning such as a self evident truth that existed before such concepts ever existed themeselves still bounds the power as a limitation, basically this power is supposed to transend concepts alone ,nothing more nothing less, as concepts and principles have been proven by others to be two different things.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:28, November 30, 2017 (UTC)

Infinite/Infinity as in unlimited amount of (X)? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, December 1, 2017 (UTC)

We have something that allows user to get massively greater results compared to what they actually do, for example lightning bolt by rubbing their hands to create static electricity.

...I think, been a while since I saw it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:16, December 1, 2017 (UTC)

Bit too specific I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:39, December 1, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:17, December 1, 2017 (UTC)

Don't we have that one? Something close to it at least... --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:33, December 2, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:58, December 2, 2017 (UTC)

Science Advancement, Absolute Energy Conversion - doable.

Dislocation Inducement - needs better name. --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:33, December 2, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, December 3, 2017 (UTC)

Ability/Power Editing - isn't this basically Superpower Manipulation with Limitation/special effect?

Immaterial Embodiment - doable but needs good description/definition. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:00, December 4, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:21, December 5, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:10, December 6, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:50, December 6, 2017 (UTC)

Ability Ignoring/Trait Augmentation - needs better name but otherwise doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:45, December 6, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, December 7, 2017 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:11, December 8, 2017 (UTC)

did you check to see who did the last revision on that power? it was kuo not me, when he went to edit it he would have taken it off if he thought it shouldn't have been there but all he did was tweek the limitation to meta fate manipulation so it needs to be put back

forgot to sign my last one, check the last thing i saidThe Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 23:20, December 12, 2017 (UTC)

Hi, sorry, I just did the Scale Bullet Projection technique again; you could instead of eliminating it help me edit it please and check that it's ok, it's straightforward and it's not too specific as other times. Shura LavaHielo (talk)

you want to tell me you seriusly don't think this guy deserve a spot here?

really?

I know he was a real person, and not fictional, but I believe he pretty much represent this concept in real life.

Count Vlad III dracula (talk) 23:16, December 13, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:12, December 14, 2017 (UTC)

Even if it can possibly be evaded, it (the attack) in of itself is absolute so it cannot be manipulated by others.

My bad, when I was shortening the page I moved Insticts above C because Hyper Instincts would come before Maximum Brain Capacity so I got kinda confused, thanks for fixing it though. CrabHermit (talk) 05:59, December 14, 2017 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

Alphabetic Order
Hahahahahahaha, oh that's so golden. Very golden if you think your understanding of English lexicon and grammar is greater than mine, but I digress...

Okay, so it's fair enough if the "A" in "A Certain Magical Index" is omitted when alphabetising (it's the same reason the word "The" gets omitted when ordering titles etc.) but then, as a result, you do realise that you've still put A Certain Magical Index in the wrong place lololol. So yes, Absolute Duo would be listed first, but A Certain Magical Index would actually be listed underneath Bleach.

15:18, December 15, 2017 (UTC)

From what I understand, even though Power Replication is an application of Technique Reading, Power Replication is just one power at a time still, and Technique Reading is moreso about viewing and reading techniques rather than copying them. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:26, December 17, 2017 (UTC)

Congrats
congratulations on reaching 35000 edits!

Mystery idiot 50 (talk) 13:08, December 18, 2017 (UTC)

If they are made up of omnipotence itself then they are omnipotence physiology, simple as that.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 22:28, December 18, 2017 (UTC)

Yes the Soul Gem can recreate souls if it says that can create and destroy souls then it can re create them as well, if it destroys someone soul it can bring them back just as easily, it states in the canon lore that it can "manipulate souls both alive 'and dead' " so its staying.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Yes the Soul Gem can recreate souls if it says that can create and destroy souls then it can re create them as well, if it destroys someone soul it can bring them back just as easily, it states in the canon lore that it can "manipulate souls both alive 'and dead' " so its staying. The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 04:01, December 20, 2017 (UTC)

If the soul gem can manipulate even dead souls then yes that means it can bring them back to life, im not making stuff up im just using my power of reason, ​infinite manipulation of souls both alive ​AND DEAD​ = Can bring them back to life.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 04:12, December 20, 2017 (UTC)

Thats just a general explanation of its powers, the Soul Gem is simply an item that allows its user infinite manipulation over all aspects of the soul, same as all of the other gems in that fact that they grant infinite control over all aspects of what they represent, and im all good with wikias and all but if something is said in the source material that they forgot to include then im sorry but info that comes DIRECTLY from the source always takes priority over anything on the internet.

And your logic is ultra flawed BTW:

If I told you I could pick up a box that was right in front of me you would say I could not because I have not done it before, even though there is evidence that I can (like say im in perfect physical condition and my plams are slighty moist so I would be able to have a good grip on it and not to mention the box is be light weight) BUT NOPE you still say I cannot pick up the box simply because you have not seen me do it before.

You are using one of the worst logical fallacies I have ever seen.

In fact you should show me proof that it cannot ​bring souls back from the dead, but that would be impossible because like I keep saying dead=destroyed ( as in the soul would survive the death of the body in the first place meaning that the soul itself would still be alive so the only other thing dead could mean in this context is destroyed) and it states that it can manipulate dead souls.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 04:42, December 20, 2017 (UTC)

Listen sage, I talked with the mods and they agreed it can stay there simply for the fact that the soul gem has infinite control over all aspects of the soul, its proven that it has the potential to creat and recreat souls so DON'T TAKE IT OFF​​, or you'll be dealing with them.

Ok sage im going to end this biased debate of yours once and for all:

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">"No. I want proof. You have offered none. and its never been proven.

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">I am not going to let this slide because you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">When has the Soul Gem ever been shown to create a soul from nothing? WHEN? The answer is never, because it can't.​"- Well here''s the thing though sage I have​ shown you proof but you just won't accept it as proof because you simply don't want to​ and I can tell that this is the case as whenever I responded to you about this topic I give you reasons as to why it can do the things It should be able to do, you keeps saying I have no proof and that im just wrong instead of actually confronting my points (as you never bring them up but keep using the same excuses that Iv'e already disproven myself), but anyways back to the real topic, when it comes to the capabilites of each gems the examples show in the comics and on the wikia are just that, EXAMPLES, they aren't limited to ONLY those things mentioned, they are just a general explanation of their powers so people can get a general gist of what each gem can do. and i think you meant to say your question like this: <span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">When has the Soul Gem ever been shown to ​be able to create a soul from nothing ? each gem has absolute control over all aspects of what each gem represents, which leads to what im about to talk about next.

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">"Also you seem to be mistaken about the Infinity Gems power. You say they have infinite power over all the aspects they represent, and yet they have not only been overpowered on more then one occasion, they were also completely destroyed entirely during the Incursion arc.

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Infinite means limitless power, if they were truly infinite in power and scope that that couldn't happen. And yet it has. Something that is infinite in power cannot be overpowered or beaten, thats what Infinity means after all.

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Sorry but the INFINITY in the infinity gems is just a name, it does not have absolute power over all aspects it represents, and it never been claimed too ever in the marvel verse."-I don't know where to start on this one... ok so your taking about when 2 universes crashed into each other and were destroyed along with the gems right? well then I have a simple explination to this: they were destroyed because their universe was destroyed as each set of infinity gems only have infinite control over the universe they come from and are tied to it (further proving my other point that they embody the aspects of the universe each one represents whic would mean that if those aspects are were to be completely destroyed, SO ARE THE GEMS) meaning that if the universe is destroyed the gems would be destroyed also as a result (and FYI the Time Gem survived and disappered instead of shattering, most likely going back to a time before the universe was destroyed) but now you'll say "that still dosen't prove they are infinite as they have been overpowered before" yeeeeeah have you seen the people that overpowered the gems? as for that just watch this https://youtu.be/1Z9fReGWArU this guy explains my point MUCH better then I could.

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">"You made all that stuff up without offering me any shred of evidence, It doesn't matter what you say or what you think you say. If you can't give me evidence to back up your claims then you are making stuff up.

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">I am sorry but until such time as you can offer me prove then the gems will remain off the page. And since you cannot they will stay off.

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Do not add them back until you are ready to offer me proof directly from the comics instead of facts you just made up."- Again I made nothing up you just hate what im putting in front of you and just don't want to acknowledge it because im not using logical fallacys, therefore you cannot prove me wrong.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 02:00, December 23, 2017 (UTC)

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Not showing evidence? I showed you this https://youtu.be/1Z9fReGWArU yes its a youtube video and yes its not DIRECTLY from the comics but the info he provides is still valid and you have to watch to the end to understand it.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 03:50, December 23, 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:26, December 24, 2017 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:46, December 24, 2017 (UTC)

NM. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:06, December 25, 2017 (UTC)

Hey, SageM, do you know any powers having to do with the user having energy levels far beyond those of an average member of their species? I am asking this because, according to Kuopiofi, you know a great deal about the names and functions of many of the powers in this wiki. --Chris Urena (talk) 17:13, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

But isn't that kind of energy more about spiritual rather than physical energy? Because I've been thinking about creating a power called Enhanced Energy that is sub-power to Enhanced Body in which the user is more lively and active than normal members of their species.

Oh, and another thing, SageM: is your username a reference to that jutsu called Sage Mode from Naruto? --Chris Urena (talk) 17:25, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

It's a little different with Sonata, does not have the same filename and the new image is the original image of the sirens from MLP from MLP wikia.

Oh, I see for the username part.

But for the energy-based superpower part: '''But isn't that kind of energy more about spiritual rather than physical energy? Because I've been thinking about creating a power called Enhanced Energy that is a sub-power to Enhanced Body in which the user is more lively and active than normal members of their species'''. --Chris Urena (talk) 20:44, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

Sage whats up I came by just too ask you whats the difference between Transcendent Weaponry and Divine Weaponry and if they dont have a real distinct diference i think you should delete yours cause Divine Weaponry has been around longer.Gold D.Saint (talk) 00:52, December 30, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there, just so you know, YarinzianDragonKing, aka Chris Urena, is still awaiting your response on Enhanced Energy. Why not answer him? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:47, December 30, 2017 (UTC)

The impossible goomba is not a glitch
It is acting normally, but just on a weird level design.

Opdagon (talk) 22:01, December 31, 2017 (UTC)

I take it you haven't read much Green Arrow? I sligthly agree that Conner Hawke may not be accepted considering he isn't really poplar but his step brother (Roy Harper) and Father skills are INSANE. - PlatinumFist(7

Hmmm, I guess I was being "nice" to the old man but I disagree with you about Rachel, she changed her name when her Dad started dating Emma Frost way back in the early 2000s and somewhat keep her mother's memory intact (Like that was an issue). - PlatinumFist (7

"sigh" No, I believe you (Godamn it, Marvel) guess I'll go changed all my previous edits about her - PlatinumFist (7

I don't know why you even un-did that one, all i did was put Omni-summon as thats what the power can do summon anythingThe Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 04:38, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

Say, SageM, do we have powers like these?

Mental State Manipulation: The ability to manipulate mental states such as being drunk or intoxicated, being knocked out or being asleep.

Otherworldly Manipulation: The ability to manipulate what is not of this world, such as divine things, supernatural things and alien things such as extraterrestial and extradimensional things. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:45, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

Are you sure about Otherworldly Manipulation? That also covers alien things such as extraterrestrial or extradimensional, which may or may not be supernatural. Key words, may not.

And Mental State Manipulation: Get back to me if you manage to find it, okay? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:15, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

Hmm ? What was that about scrollboxes ?

SageM, you're being asinine again... please concede. 02:49, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

A conceptual attack is fine and dandy but an absolute attack doesn't have to change into an conceptual one to affect them, it can stay the same type of attack (say a physical one) and still affect you anyways an no immunity or intagibility can stop it as even though an attack would be physical it would also be absolute so yes it needs its sepreate spot in there.

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:14, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Um, no?

The other limitation fits just fine because even though the users imagination is literally infinite​ (which in itself makes me question the limitation of insperation negation as well) it still makes sense to put as a possible limitation because THAT ONE has to do with depleting creativity and imagination, but the other one is strictly about erasing straight up hard core knowledge​, two different things, plus it never even HINTS at it being able to take away imagination on knowledge Erasure's page, its utter nonsense to say that a power that has a polar opposite next to it justifies it being there, like what?

Plus even if it could I still ask you this (and what im about to say applys to all other infinite powers):

What's infinity minus 1? ITS STILL ​INFINITY!​ so it wouldn't even matter even if it could, same goes for insperation negation (but ill keep it there sense it at least like I said before makes sense as a limitation)The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 06:16, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

An idea is just a concept that's based of of knowledge.

And still what's infinity minus 1? its still infinity so your argument is still invalid.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 06:19, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

Ok fine that is one way to see it, but my biggest point still stands and theirs really nothing you can use to argue against this: Infinity

If something is infinite taking any amount away from it equates to nothing as infinity is not something quantifiable, its endless.

So im at least changing it to a "May be weak" statement.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 06:38, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

​

I'm just updating them with higher quality pics - PlatinumFist(7

But what's the point of editing if we don't occasionally change low quailty pics with better shots? - PlatinumFist(7

I mispoke about the quailty I meant to say better examples but I agree with you. - PlatinumFist(7

hello
trogdolyte means cave dweller. Cavemen didn't live in caves. They may have stayed in caves when there was no other shelter, but modern humans also do that. Literally every other great ape make nests themselves, so why would a much more intelligent ape live in a wet, disease-filled rock instead of a simple, easily-made hut? Some early humans might have spent less time in caves than modern humans, being smart enough to make a hut with little effort or materials. Opdagon (talk) 10:50, January 6, 2018 (UTC)

OK fine, I'll pass of the quote as acceptable in regards to the wording but that quote doesn't really fit as it's not self-explanatory, so much so that I had to google up where that quote came from to know the context of it and I still feel like it doesn't fit the power.

In that game, the most expected thing to occur is dying to your surroundings which appropriately occurs during the event of when you jump into the sword, thus not being the "least expected" thing to occur but more of an "expected", so I will be undoing your edit to remove the quote unless you have a better argument. CrabHermit (talk) 20:53, January 6, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:52, January 11, 2018 (UTC)

It says in the handbook that he can destroy a star with his serious punch, its simple logic from there, if he can destroy a star he can destroy a planet.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 03:54, January 13, 2018 (UTC)

Now listen, there is no feat required if the author himself says he can do something and thats final, if you try to refute what the author says then you are the wrong one, besides he has shown that kind of power, he obliterated boros's collapsing star roaring cannon attack which can blow a planet up.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 04:09, January 13, 2018 (UTC)

No, show me proof that it is ONLY the planets surface, I have never heard of that statement ANYWHERE on the internet or IRL, also the hand book is canon, its literal canon facts incarnateThe Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 04:20, January 13, 2018 (UTC)

Sage I will never​ just "take your word for something" until I see the ​CANON ​source material, link me to something other then a wikia and I'll listen.

Also BOTH anime and manga are canon, nowhere has it been remotely stated or hinted at that one or the other is non-canon, so stop with the lies already.

Watch, if saitama destroys the universe in season 2 (not saying he can but IF) you'll STILL say he cannot even destroy a planet because you are biased, ive seen it everywhere, someone has tried to put saitama where he belongs and you just wont let it happen.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 04:38, January 13, 2018 (UTC)

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:5.6px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">"Except the OPM encyclopedia is official. As it was written by ONE himself.

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">So you guys are literally saying that ONE's own words are invalid"

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">OH? BUT THE HANDBOOK IS NOT VALID YET IT WAS WRITEN BY ONE AS WELL?

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">No sage YOU​ are saying that ONES own word is invalid because you said it to my face just a bit ago: "the handbook is not enough" and that he has to show a feat- OH BUT WHEN YOU CAN USE SOURCE MATERIAL TO PROVE ​YOURE​ POINT ITS OK NOW. Im done with you RN.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 04:51, January 13, 2018 (UTC)

That's her third account actually. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, January 14, 2018 (UTC)

why are you reverting all my changes?

4wer25 (talk) 23:35, January 15, 2018 (UTC)4wer25

Honestly, I think that it doesn't make much of a difference if someone starts of the capabilities with "The user" or "User" since they're both singular, kind of like how people start off whole pages with "The ability" instead of "The power".

Not really sure how to handle that type of thing since too many pages have these minor differences, would take way too much time and edits as well. CrabHermit (talk) 23:56, January 15, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, January 19, 2018 (UTC)

Not ​all ​conceptual Attacks are absolute, only some which is why if only one user of a power has an ability that is absolute, say an attack, then it will be added to the applications, why? a power is only as good as its users. so thats why the capabilities take top priority, NOT the applications. so that argument is invalid in this case.

Besides thats not even my biggest point: even if its a maybe, Absolute Attacks can be physical and still be absolute (not to mention that on its page it states that intagibility won't hinder the attack at all meaning its a possible limitation to this power), so its justifiable to put it as a limitation.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 06:39, January 19, 2018 (UTC)

Where do I even start with this one:

"<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Even the capabilites of Conceptual Attacks basically states they are absolute, not just the applications."

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​That's what you take it as, it doesn't state anything about it being absolute in any way, just because its conceptual doesn't mean its absolute. it has a blatent limitation of Conceptual Anchoring which is an immunity, sommething that Absolute Attack has none of- "<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">User can create/use attacks that cannot be blocked, reduced, countered, negated or deflected by any means, defenses, armor and immunity​." so yes there are some things that conceptual attacks cannot affect, namly someone with either Conceptual Anchoring or Conceptual Transendence (I mentioned Conceptual Transendence for obvious reasons).

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​"<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">And some of the Conceptual Attacks are in physical form and take the form of a physical attack, the Thompson Contender is one such example."

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​They are manifestations of concepts, yes, but their existance is still conceptual and that's why it can affect the target, not because it is physical but because the attack embodies a concept. and still they can be useless against users of Conceptual Anchoring because the attack is made out of a concept, not matter and energy.

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">"Also if you actually read Absolute Attack's capabilities it says this-

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">'<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">This ability is not dependent on physical factors like strength, but is instead based on the properties of the attack.' "

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​Iv'e seen you use this exact argument before with the same quote and its completely invalid and always will be, apparently you are not reading it correctly. it says ​"NOT DEPENDENT" ​meaning it dosen't always have to be physical attack for it to be absolute, but if the property of the attack is physical then so be it, it still applies and is still absolute.

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​"<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Also nearly all the users of Absolute Attack use conceptual or non-physical/non-tangible forms of attacks, so again my point stands."

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​Yes, a lot of users on there have Absolute Attacks that are not physical in nature but there a plenty of ones that are such as: Hakumen with a physical sword that nothing can block against, Sonic with excalibur as a physical weapon, "The Sword​" from cardcaptor sakura with a physcial sword, Saitama with his fists, Vergil with his physical sword, ETC. this list can go on and on but my point is is that you were very wrong on that one, and its apparent that you didn't even bother to look at some of the characters closely enough to know that a lot of them use physcial attacks that are absolute.

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​"<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">The properties of the attack doesn't mean it has to be physical. So your argument is meaningless."

<p style="border-bottom-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-width:0px;border-image-outset:0;border-image-repeat:stretch;border-image-slice:100%;border-image-source:none;border-image-width:1;border-left-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-left-style:none;border-left-width:0px;border-right-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-right-style:none;border-top-color:rgb(58,58,58);border-top-style:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:&quot;HelveticaNeue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;margin-bottom:14px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-top:14px;orphans:2;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-top:0px;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;vertical-align:baseline;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">See??? even you​ yourself screwed up by admiting the exact same thing I myself just said, it dosen't ​have​ to be physical but that doesn't mean that it can't be.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 07:46, January 19, 2018 (UTC)

"<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Vergil's attacks are space-based weaponry.. So he isn't a good example."

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​Ok Sage, I don't even know where you got that one from, yes it can cut through dimensions (such as space) but that doesn't mean that the blade itself is not physical.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​"<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Saitama actually belongs on One Hit Kill. And Garou has survived several of his so called Absolute Attacks, and it clearly says attacks cannot be "Reduced". And since Garou has survived many of his punches even though he shouldn't be able too."

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​Your right he does belong on their and is on their but that's not the only thing he can be on.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​The attack doesn't have to kill you for it to be absolute it just needs to affect you, and yes he might have had regeneration to an extent but that is a limitation to the power already "<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Even though the attack can inflict unblockable damage, it is meaningless if the opponent has ' Regenerative Healing Factor<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">', Absolute Immortality<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"> or if the attack itself is low in overall power, unless the inflicted damage is also absolute."

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​And his attacks were never reduced that's just a lie on your part.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​"<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Also he has shown the power to block, dodge, counter and escape from Saitama's attacks. Which pretty much means that Saitama isn't a user of Absolute Attack."

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​He has never blocked Saitama's punch's, he has only ben able to dodge them before he through them out for a short while but even so that's also a limitation to the power "<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">While attacks cannot be blocked or phased through, they may still be able to be evaded if the opponent is fast enough." you should know this.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​he has also not countered or escaped saitama when he *did* manage to hit him, when saitama really​ wanted to hit him he could not do anything about it, before he was not trying at all, but then he started putting slightly more effort into what he did and garou could not stop him.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​"<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Also the Sword from cardcaptor sakura isn't even a true physical object. Its a magical construct that simply takes the form of a sword."

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​Maybe I was half wrong on that one but the sword itself was still physical and could be held in the hand like anything else.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:22px;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​So because of all of this Absolute Attack needs to be a spereate limitation on Ultimate Intangibility as a lot of users on Absolute Attack user absolute​ offenses that are physical and still cannot be blocked by any means.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 22:50, January 19, 2018 (UTC)

Sounds like something that would come in automatically with Expert level on RHF, and possibly as Technique below that.

That said, why should it be limited to Regeneration? Normal recovery/being Healed that doesn't leave wounds to be used sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Flawless Healing instead of Regeneration. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:31, January 20, 2018 (UTC)

its not 10,000The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:23, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

Definiton Manipulation
So what's up? How are you?

1-I came here to ask some questions about DM (Definiton Manipulation), I like this power but I always had some doubts Would DM manipulate, say, the law of identity in Aristotelian logic? Is this the focus of this power?

2- And as a being who is beyond absolutely everything. DM can not affect you?

3- As beings that are beyond the realm of definition, DM can affect?

4- Is DM immune to the sciences, scientific evidence, evidence, evidence, philosophy, magic, reason, logic, beliefs, and the like?

4.1- In this sense said above: "prove the fundamental nature is useless"?

Vitorriq (talk) 17:41, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

DNAlessness/Genelessness - doable but seriously needs better name.

Reality Attacks - doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:38, January 22, 2018 (UTC)

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:400;background-color:rgb(245,245,245);">For once, I've written a reason on one of them and I'll try to keep up with it.

Their is no reason it cannot do both, its already known that it can ressurect the dead and in the infinity gauntlet issue Thanos reanimated nebula (who was completly brain dead and basically zombified).

I don't see why someone (or something) cannot do both, they are seprate powers but are related to the same thing: Life and Death.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 07:05, January 24, 2018 (UTC)

Once again this is your own point of view and is not supported by evidance that they contradict each other, the only reason you are giving me for it being impossible for both to co-exist under the same user is just because they are different powers... that's not a valid argument. for example both recreation and restoration are both very similar powers to each other while at the same time being very different, but that would not mean that a user of one cannot have the other, that wouldn't even make sense.

And like I said before, the Soul Gem has done both already.

It is already said to be able to ressurect the dead back normaly ​AND ​it has shown necromancy by what Thanos did with nebula by making her undead.

Meaning it goes on both pages.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 07:43, January 24, 2018 (UTC)

<span style="color:rgb(115,127,141);font-family:Whitney,"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;display:inline!important;float:none;">Clerics in Dungeons and Dragons have the spell Animate Dead, which creates undead. They also have the spells Raise Dead and Resurrection, which are... HEY WHAT DO YOU KNOW, THE POWERS OF RESSURECTION AND​ REANIMATION BEING USED BY THE SAME GUY!The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 07:59, January 24, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for editing my Superanimal Physiology article! 🧐ChocolateElemental (talk) 22:16, January 24, 2018 (UTC)

Why don't you agree with my queto in Ultimate Regeneration - PlatinumFist(7

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, January 26, 2018 (UTC)

It takes more then just seeing across all timelines to be Nigh-Omniscience, this is a sub power of that, not even anywhere close to true Omniscience.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 03:33, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

No, Im pretty sure I meant Omnichronal Perseption.

Like I said it takes more then just seeing across infinite timelines to be even close to Omniscience.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">"Omniscience is also known as Infinite Knowledge. And Omnichronal Perception is perceiving time across Infinite timelines at the same time. So of course its a sub-power of Omniscience."

You are lowballing Omniscience as a whole now, yes in the timeline catagory they are absolute in their knowledge but that's just within timelines/universes... which leads to my next point.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">"If you can perceive infinite information, knowledge and events across an infinite number of timelines, then whats stopping you from being considered Omniscient?"

If there is even 1​ thing you don't know of then you are not Omniscient, what if there was something that exists outside of space AND TIME​ or even the entire Omniverse, a user of Omnichronal Perception woundn't know about it, that would be part of what keeps them from being Omniscient, this power wouldn't mean jack in that case. It makes more sense for it to be a sub power of Nigh Omniscience because this power is ​way to limited for it to be a sub power of Omniscience.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 03:51, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:28, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

"<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">It doesn't matter what you say or think on this, thats how the power was defined from the start. Your trying to change the nature of the power."

Sage that's not how it works, if I give an argument and it makes sense using logic and reason then something is allowed to get changed, and I could be just like you and say the exact same thing "<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">It doesn't matter what you say or think on this" instead of come up with a logical rebuttal to defend my position but I don't do that.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​This site is not a Dictatorship, its a Democracy.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​"<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">As you already said before, infinite means infinite. It doesn't matter whether or not its outside of the omniverse or not, after all we have Meta Event Manipulation which allows you to manipulate events outside of the omniverse and beyond, and its already got some of the temporal cognition powers as associations to it. Which means its already connected to Omnichronal Perception by default."

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​That's like saying that sense I know ​everything about the Earth that I now know everything about the Universe, infinite yes, but only in what it is infinite about (as in infinite knowledge of all timelines).

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​For example think of the Infinite Gems, The Space Gem has infinite control over space but not over Power, Why? because it is not affiliated with power unlike the Power Gem Because while both are Infinite they are infinite in different ways for different things. just because you are infinite in one aspect does not mean you are infinite in all of them.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">"So yes, it is and always has been a sub-power of Omniscience. So please stop changing it. You can't win this argument because thats literally how the power is defined as."

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​I don't care if its been around sense the dawn of time, being able to see through all timelines does not make you Omniscient, at most Nigh-Omniscient, you are lowballing Omniscience as you must not know how big that power really is (its like Omnipotence but you replace the "Power" part with "Knowledge"), for example if I knew everything about the Marvel Multiverse and its timelines within it would I know about the being known as the Beyonder? No, because he exists FAR​ outside of the marvel Multiverse and I mean FAR ​outside of it to the extent that not even The Living Tribunal (another being that exists just outside of the Marvel Multiverse and is also Nigh-Omnipotent) knew about him until he showed up. so why again would a user of Omnichronal Perseption not be able to know of a being such as they Beyonder? because he was never a thing in any of the infinite timelines because he exists outside of them all.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:28, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

"<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Also if you bothered to check, you will see that some of the users of Omnichronal Perception are also considered users of Omniscience as well"

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Yes, while some of them might be Omniscient not ​all ​of them are, I mean come on would you say that <span style="color:rgb(115,127,141);font-family:Whitney,"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:pre-wrap;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;display:inline!important;float:none;"> Elizabeth from Bioshock is absolutely Omniscient? regaurdless it still does not make the power eligable enough to be a number 3 or 4 under Omniscience in the hierarchy.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​Why?

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​For (another, ugh) example, Universal Irriversability has the One Above All in it, does that make the power on the level of Omnipotence? NO, that would not make sense, what you are using is a flawed argument.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:40, January 27, 2018 (UTC)

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Oops, thanks for the tip - PlatinumFist(7

Nekron2 (talk) 10:36, January 28, 2018 (UTC)Well,though even in flawless restoration page there is no such limitation to absolute destruction.It is even written that absolute restoration may be able to undo the effects of absolute destruction though it is ultimate counter to universal irreversibility itself.So,that also doesn't matter. Also,I recently saw that erasure immunity has recently been taken off from the limitation of absolute destruction. Due to these powers I am seeing that all fundamental powers like absolute immortality are falling apart.I have been following absolute immortality since 2016 ending.

Nekron2 (talk) 10:56, January 28, 2018 (UTC)If you can create it please create the power "Absolute inerasability" I have been thinking about it for quite a long time,use nagilum from Star Trek TNG as an example.He is an immortal being who exist outside of everything thus is utterly inerasable.So,this power can counter even absolute destruction and powers like it that threatens a users existence also the power cannot be removed or manipulated rendering it perfect and absolute.If you can and have enough time for it please do create it.I am lately busy with a lot of office work and I don't think I would be able to create it within two months!

Even,TOAA is an omnipotent but still he is the one who had been first listed on universal irreversibility, try it.

Not only wormholes, it has limitless manipulation of space itself including matter, energy, and physics, and if you look at the cababilities of Cosmic Creation you would see why the Space Gem easialy qualifies for it would be able to create matter and manipulate matter thus being able to create something like say, a star. in fact it qualifies for most physical cosmic powers in general.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 02:51, January 29, 2018 (UTC)

That's your problem Sage, while seeing something in action is (obviously) the most safe way to tell if something is true or false, it is not the only way to find something out, we cannot see air with our own two eyes but we know its there because we have other ways of proving its existence, for example we can feel it and sense it.

The same can be applied to research, if something has logical evidance to support a claim then it gets taken into consideration, and once more evidance is provided and is proven true by statements that would as a side effect prove my point then it becomes fact until proven otherwise.

Such as this https://comicvine.gamespot.com/space-gem/4055-57127/

And I know that this site can be trusted for reliable information for it is all about archiveing as much information as possible from comic books of both types (Marvel and​ DC), and unlike wikia's, provides more information on comics books and their contents then even the marvel wikia itself and goes into more detail.

Now let me guide you though all of what this stuff that you will see means, the title of the page is Space Gem and the subheading stating its genaral description says "Limitless manipulation of space, allowing for teleportation, dimensional manipulation, creation of wormholes, etc."

Now notice how it says both "Limitless manipulation of space" AND​ its use of the abbreviation "etc."

Limitless manupulation of space should tell you everything you need to know as that would imply that the Space Gem would be able to control everything​ about its aspect it represents which would have to include creating matter such as say a moon or a star, (and TBH all of the infinity gems are ment to be taken as limitless control panels for the aspect of the existence each one represents, if they weren't they wouldn't really be all that big of a deal in each Universe in Marvel, because if what your saying about how limited the gems are was truly the case everyone would rather strive to get their hands on some random cosmic cube that should be able to do more then what you describe the infinity gems capable of doing, which is definitely not what's taking place ...there's a reason they grant Nigh-Omnipotence to the weilder when used in unison with each other)

But if your being extra picky then look at how it says "etc.", this would imply that what is stated is not the ONLY THINGS​ that the gem can pull off, quite the opposite actually, this would imply that it can do an untold greater number/types of things related to spatial manipulation, such as creating matter and energy... you know... a feat that would require ​SPATIAL MANIPULATIVE PROPERTIES???​

And lastly, I will add some very much needed logic that you need to come to terms with:

Now for the most part you are right about it not creating stars or planets or something along those lines on panel yet, but you have to take into consideration that the people who write these stories don't feel as though they need to show the gems doing EVERY CONCEVABLE THING THAT SHOULD​ ​BE POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO DO​ GIVEN WHAT THEIR DESCRIBED TO BE​, what I mean is if they are stated to be able to have absoulte control over the aspect of existence each one represents and at the same time are called infinity​ gems then that should sum things up pretty well, for example if I write about a being with the abilitiy to user Fire Manipulation to create firey constructs and then someone else says that they can create fire swords you would say that they can't because they have never done it before, but that makes no sense because if they can create fire constructs the surely they should be able to create a sword construct out of fire.

I as a write would probably cringe and be like "seriously? do I have to go into THAT MUCH detail just because you cannnot pick up on the obvious?"

The writer of a story shouldn't have to be burdened with having to put an infinite amout of detail into something just to satisfy some extreamely stubborn reader, like, ever heard of context clues and forshadowing? they kinda expect their readers to have those 2 things to get everything out of their stories.

With that I end my rebuttle, please stop being so stubborn all the time, I keep throwing logic left and right at you and you never even AT LEAST ​consider ​what I say, instead you keep using the "Don't see it don't believe it" logical fallacy that I disproved with that box example I used in one of my responses to you before regarding the situation with the Soul Gem.

If that's not enough for you then im sorry but at that point it would just have to be pride and ignorance talking, show this response of mine to a mod and they will agree with me because its common sense, pure logic, and deductive reasoning embodied, with all that said im putting it back for now.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 04:49, January 29, 2018 (UTC)

Ok Sage you have done well... it seems like you have proven some of my points wrong, if only I knew about the situation with Comic Vine I would have used a different source as their are more then just Comic Vine that makes that statement.

Also yes Marvel seems to keep up pretty well with its stories but from time to time they overlook loopholes in their plots and stories, no ones perfect Sage and neither are the people who write these stories, and yes if you were to ask stan lee if the gauntlets power was infinite he would say "well yes! theres a reason its called the '​infinity​' gauntlet sonny"

One way or the other each Gem I can prove to you that each gem has ​ABSOLUTE DOMINION ​over each aspect of existence each on represents which literally means infinite​ supermacy over those aspects.

And yes again, you are right, controling something is not the same thing as creating something................... but I still have evidance that the Space Gem can do both... limitlessly in fact.

And part of it is common sense and pure logic on how matter and energy works as I have already stated, but the other part is, well... you wanted it, ​pictures.

Not just do these pictures show the Infinity Gauntlets user CREATING A CONSTRUCT USING ONLY THE SPACE GEM TO PROTECT HIMSELF FROM THE POWER OF​ THE BEYONDERS​ THAT DOOM IS USING, but also as a result of that very feat that the gems power over their aspects really are limitless.

As you can see here its working on a doon after absorbing the power of beings that overpowered The Living Tribunal and could wipe out the infinite multiverse with the snap of their fingers, if thats not infinite then idk what is in your eyes.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 06:32, January 29, 2018 (UTC)

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If you are ranting about wanting proof for something then how about I do the same? show me proof of it being a joke and a fake, as that comic was a canon story arc, I literally just read part of it before showing you those pictures.

Also this: "<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">Meaning that doom wasn't technically all-powerful. His power was still less then the One-Above-All and beings such as Oblivion and the First Firmament are still far greater in power then him."

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​UM, OF COURSE HE'S NOT GOING TO BE AS POWERFUL AS THE ONE ABOVE ALL, NO ONE IS OR WILL EVER BE, EVEN WITH LITERAL INFINITE POWER.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​And I never stated that he was​ All-Powerful, just that he had Infinite Power.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​And now the First Firmament can be called as powerful as nemesis as he also gave birth to a Multiverse, and sense the infinity gems are the remaining remenents of her being then its very much possible for the infinity gems to be as powerful as the first firmament, and this cannot be said in the same sense necessarily with the first firmament as he only had as much existiential authority as eternity did, which is why he wanted to overthrow him to once again be the embodiment of the Multiverse. (usualy eternity is the embodiment of only a single universe but apparently in this arc its the multiverse from what im reading)

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​And with oblivion, I went on both marvel.com's wiki and the marvel wikia (yes I ​went on a wikia, but apparently its the only thing you'll listen too) and nothing says that he is stronger then the infinity gauntlet, in fact the wikis says that his power is and I quote ​"near-infinite"​ as in near​ infinite... so what is almost infinite? nothing compared to infinite.

<span style="display:inline!important;float:none;color:rgb(58,58,58);font-family:"HelveticaNeue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-variant:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;orphans:2;text-align:left;text-decoration:none;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;-webkit-text-stroke-width:0px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">​Also whether its post-retcon or not the "Beyonders" and the "Beyonder" have no relations ot each other, not once have I heard that anywhere, The Beyonder is Omnipotent (well... before The One Above All was writen in, I mean he IS​ "pre"-retcon) and the Beyonders are infinite and why they were both needed to overpower The Living Tribunal is unknown, we don't know if it only really took 1 of them or if the other 2 just joined in for kicks.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 07:19, January 29, 2018 (UTC)

I'm still asking him to look it over because it's not using the same template as the other magical pages and no, he did not change it at all besides the fact that he made it sub-power to Abjuration, according to the page's history.

I would look for him to simply look it over and possibly change it. CrabHermit (talk) 00:24, January 30, 2018 (UTC)

Not quite, He only fixed that portion because he was focused on that part alone.

I do recall that we had this argument before with Kuo favoring my idea over yours, Health Manipulation and Spell Casting are all the applications need because Medical Magic is the magic version of Health Manipulation, not all applications are considered sub-powers but rather what the users are capable of.

Kuo isn't the perfect admin either, he can make mistakes such as missing to change something but very rarely, which is greatly appreciated for his role.

Again, all I'm asking is for him to look it over and make a possible change to the page.

We'll have to see, I do find confidence in Kuo supporting my side in this case but if he doesn't change anything, kudos to you.

It's not a carbon copy because if pages were considered carbon copies like that, all magic pages would be deleted but Medical Magic is different from Abjuration so I doubt it will get deleted for using my idea of applications.

Now we wait for Kuo to make his decision.CrabHermit (talk) 00:41, January 30, 2018 (UTC)

I am not trying to ruin your page.
Actually, I think that you should be the one looking over the Health Manipulation page, its applications covers a large chunk of your applications for seemingly no reason whatsoever.

Medical Magic is the magical variation of Health Manipulation right?

I believe the only reason those other powers you mentioned (such as Immune System Manipulation aren't on the page (Health Manipulation) is simply because they aren't apart of the Health Manipulation package, you simply added them to have them there.

If your page isn't covered by Health Manipulation's applications, what's the point of it existing besides that fact you decided you wanted to throw your own swing of applications onto Health Manipulation without editing Health Manipulation.

I really don't appreciate you considering my edits to "ruin" your page, all I want to do is make it better, not make it worse.

I just think the large chunk of applications you have is better covered by 2 simpler applications, really, nothing more or less.

So if you could at least consider my point of view, that would be great. CrabHermit (talk) 01:11, January 30, 2018 (UTC)

In addition, if you have a problem with Health Manipulation not covering the other stuff, why don't you just add your applications to Health Manipulation and fix that issue, it's literally that simple. CrabHermit (talk) 01:16, January 30, 2018 (UTC)

There is a very clear difference between White Arts and Medical Magic, where White Arts covers helping heal everything, Medical Magic is revolved around manipulating people's healthiness.

If you REALLY feel like all those applications need to be on Medical Magic you could put them under Health Manipulation like so,


 * Health Manipulation
 * Blood Clotting
 * Blood Transfusion
 * Cell Manipulation
 * Dialysis Inducement
 * Disease Detection
 * Health Optimization
 * Heart Restarting
 * Immune System Manipulation
 * Medicine Manipulation
 * Organ Relocation
 * Stitching
 * Spell Casting

Look at how nice and organized that is, I left out some other applications that Health Manipulation had on it's own page but you get the general idea I'm trying to share, this is a magical variation to Health Manipulation so it should at least be capable of using Health Manipulation as an application. CrabHermit (talk) 01:27, January 30, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry - PlatinumFist(7

May I ask for the reason for deleting my post Harm Immunity? VarunpMenon (talk)

Yes but there must be a reason for it being deleted by you. I'm asking the reason. VarunpMenon (talk)

May I humbly ask who the admins are? VarunpMenon (talk)

Why not tell Kuopiofi this?

And I don't know, even with those differences, Cold Fusion is still fusion, and seems covered by Strong Force Manipulation, regardless. I could be missing something, but even with the differences in being attained, I am not sure if it is that different enough. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:32, January 30, 2018 (UTC)

So, you are basically saying Cold Fusion Manipulation is a power because it breaks the laws of physics? Or is there something more to it? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:30, January 30, 2018 (UTC)

OKay, that makes sense. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:41, January 30, 2018 (UTC)

That's because I accidentally put down shields are weapon powers but not as armor powers, which was an honest mistake on my part but Shields and Armor are not entirely different things.

I did my research this time and these edits should be perfectly OK since Shields fall under Armor

I have confidence my edits will stick but I suggest you do your research before telling me shields aren't used as defense... CrabHermit (talk) 00:32, January 31, 2018 (UTC)

OK
Like I said, I'm not trying to be bothersome and this is bothering me too because people are disagreeing without factual information to back themselves up, unlike my own.

While that compromise is good, I'm asking for something else because making a category for every problem like this is the reason we have too many categories to begin with.

Thanks for the advice nonetheless, I won't bother him any further about this topic after this last message.

I'll completely drop the topic once he responds. CrabHermit (talk) 21:00, January 31, 2018 (UTC)

Understood - PlatinumFist(7

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:24, February 1, 2018 (UTC)

Bit too specific I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

Also sense I just found this I thought I should show this too you for only the most utter proof of the gems being infinite:

As you can see here sense this is a lisenced product of marvel this means that its canon, as marvel approved of it.

Therefore this can be used as proof of the gems being infinite by the companys own intent.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:38, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

I know it sounds weird but the toyline still had to be looked over and approved by marvel therefore it holds some ground, if it was bootleg then no it would not but thats not the case here.

And it being retired means nothing, that just means they stopped selling it, that doesn't take its relevance out.

Nintendo stopped selling gamecube games in either 2007 or 2008 but does that take relevance out of them? no. (and I know your reply will be "but those are games not toys" doesn't matter, each was licensed by their respective companys so it counts as an example)The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:50, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

Yes Topps were the ones who PRODUCED them but not the ones who said it would be ok to slap the "Marvel" trademark logo on it without getting a copyright claim almost instantly, like I said before, marvel approved of the product meaning it can be taken into consideration.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:54, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

Provide a link to that quote and (if its true) ill leave it at that.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:56, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

Alright, I cannot argue facts and statements made by the company themselves, you win Sage.

Though I will continue with my search for (REAL) evidance on why the Gems are infinite.

(That is if common sense and logic isn't enough to convince you)The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 06:17, February 2, 2018 (UTC)

Power Restriction - we don't have something like this already?

Navigation Manipulation - doable, but remember to add the connection between EM and this. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:31, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 05:34, February 3, 2018 (UTC)You want to know where flawless restoration is listed?Let me show you the path:

Life and death transcendence>>Absolute Immortality>>Enhanced self resurrection>>Flawless restoration Alright? Actually you don't have any Idea what you are talking about.The capabilities of absolute immortality cleary states that even if the user is completely destroyed or completely erased, then too the user will be restored back to life without exceptions. Doesn't it sound like flawless restoration?.

Thanks for the info - PlatinumFist(7

You're right. that pic wasn't good enough - PlatinumFist(7

Deleted. Pointing to you if the maker asks reason. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:24, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

Actually, people like you don't seem to understand omnipotence, that is the reason it was locked to users like you by admins,ypu were unilaterally changing the page.I said it enough times that almighty replication cannot and will not replicate true omnipotence.Dont remove the limitation again.

Which reasons SageM?I said on the page that the newer edit on omnipotence page clearly states the reason for edit also go through the page fully, it states they are completely immune to all powers.Actually, you need a bit more page research and learn how to prevent giving biased views on community wikias!

Problem with AR is that while it can indeed replicate any/all powers, OP is by definition above all powers. In this case I'll have to go by the normal ruling with two opposing powers, in other words it depends on the relative power-level of the opposing Users.

Which brings us to the practical problem of this case: no OP can use it on other OP as by definition two OP's would make them both N-OP's. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:41, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

I understand that in theory omniscient beings would be threatend by those with knowledge earasor (assuming they can erase all the knowledge the omniscient posses) but what is even the meaning of "lesser users"? omniscience is omniscience. if it's not omniscince, then it's nigh-omniscience.

Count Vlad III dracula (talk) 20:31, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

Defense Manipulation/Fictional Lordship - doable.

Reality Dreaming - go ahead but remember that people may ask why you did so. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:32, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I didn't know how to reply to your comment on the "Gyrokinetic Flight" page, so I'll reply here. I understand that that's your definition of the power. However, the definition on the page itself never specifies anywhere that the gravity manipulation must be used on the user's own body to achieve flight. It also never specifies that dependence on a medium (rock, in this case) for the flight disqualifies the user from being included. It simply says "The power to fly using gravity. Users of this ability can fly, glide and/or levitate through manipulation of gravity. " Fujitora/Issho from One Piece has the power to manipulate gravity. He can manipulate gravity to levitate and move a rock that he rides on, allowing him to fly. He is flying through the manipulation of gravity, as per the definition of the page''. ''The rock is not its own entity. The rock is only able to levitate and fly because it's under the influence of his powers, meaning Fujitora actually is using his own powers to fly. If the rock wasn't under his influence, it would just be a normal rock. It's not some special rock that has levitating powers, so you can't really call it an aid. It's just something he uses to channel his powers through, just like his sword. Let me know what you think. DeeeFoo (talk) 23:38, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

If that really is the case, then I think the article for "Gyrokinetic Flight" should be updated with that information. That way, everything will be clear and there will be no confusion. Also, what is the actual difference between levitating and flying? Fujitora can direct his movements while on the rock, so he does have actual maneuverability while in the air, if that's what you classify as flying as opposed to levitation. Also, I would hesitate to put him under Geokinetic Flight, since the object he uses to fly atop of doesn't necessarily have to be a rock. It could literally be any object big enough for him to stand on. He just uses a rock/rubble most of the time since they're commonly found. Let me know your thoughts DeeeFoo (talk) 00:06, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

I see, Alright - PlatinumFist(7

Sorry, I was just moving some users and spaced out - PlatinumFist(7

Named - doable.

Unnamed - name it run it by me again. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

Fan Fiction Character Solution
This is a copy of my message I know, but I just have to share this solution to you and see what you think about it.

As of today, I have came up with a solution for fan made characters to be accepted into the Known Users lists, and that is level of notability of their debuts and appearances, like viral videos for instance. A good example of a fanmade character being notable is Painis Cupcake, a well known TF2 Freak created by Rubberfruit, and Destroyer made by SarisKhan. First of all, we have to make a new rule, and that is how notabley known the fan-made characters are. Like for example, if a fan character has been debuted in a video, the view count needs to be approximately 1,000 views or higher for the character to be accepted. You would might as well take some time to consider about it, and see how that fares. 😁

I was taking a look at the TF2 Freakshow Wiki's guidelines list and I saw the rule regarding TF2 Freaks to be accepted onto the notable videos lists, and I thought about the Superpower Wiki making a similar rule like that, thus, I came up with this solution myself. ChocolateElemental (talk) 18:03, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

Dude its actually exist this is an actually manga coming out bro stop erasing please

Oh don't worry Sage, when I say someone told me I mean it.





Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, February 7, 2018 (UTC)

Then feel free to change it back, while I find a better one later on. SDPanthera (talk) 21:47, February 7, 2018 (UTC)

Guess who said I could go ahead with the edit on Metapotence?

Imouto agreed with me on this one, and why it makes sense so it goes back.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 01:53, February 9, 2018 (UTC)

Do you even hear yourself? even if the manipulation of said logic is limitless it is still logic, therefore it might be infinite in its own way but not in all of them, which woud be a requirement for that power.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 02:19, February 9, 2018 (UTC)

That's what I'm doing.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 02:33, February 9, 2018 (UTC)

This might seem random but I thought you don't take ComicVine as a useful source of information?

Yet you use this to try to prove one of your points on Cosmic Otherness: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-1442310

You know, when I myself showed you a link to ComicVine you wouldn't even consider it but when it says something you like its okay now? even after you yourself said that they have been wrong on multiple occasions???

Mind Explaining Sage?The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 03:05, February 10, 2018 (UTC)

Alternative/Other Senses - By other, do you mean something that normal human couldn't do? Electroreception is something quite a few fish do, pigeons at least see magnetic fields.

Afterlife/Death Connecting/ReFreshment/Reinvigoration - doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:31, February 10, 2018 (UTC)

Bit too specific I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:35, February 10, 2018 (UTC)

Please answer this
Please do not ignore me, I would like to know your point of view about one thing. In TM publication, yesterday (9/2/2018) you said "Actually there is a little more to it then. Since it also includes non-fiction, dreams, ideas, possibilities, certainity, uncertainty, possible, impossible, and etc."

So, Sage. So, Totality or Omega Omnisphere contains or is our own real world, our universe where we live and all that exists in our universe?

Vitorriq (talk) 18:30, February 10, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I saw that you had not answered me before and I thought you were ignoring me. I'm sorry for being inconvenient.

Yes, well, does Totality include our own real-world universe? Yes or no?

Vitorriq (talk) 20:38, February 10, 2018 (UTC)

Why did you remove Saint of Killers from the the Absolute Marksmanship page? That’s one of his main gimmicks. He never misses his target and all shots are lethal.

Sorry. I’m not used to this wiki’s message board.

The description for Soul Conversion doesn’t sound like what Hades can do to souls. Is there a power in this wiki about transforming souls into living things?

User:Crazylatin77 (talk)

Please, answer
So, In fact, the "probably" did not, for the Totality would include the Omniverse, or rather, ALL the -verses. Which would certainly include, yes, our universe in which we live. Do you agree? Right? Vitorriq (talk) 20:13, February 11, 2018 (UTC)

No offense, but why not? The Haki abilities all have OFFICIAL English names, as given by translations from official sources (Viz, Funimation, etc). Why not use them? I honestly don't see a good reason not to use them. DeeeFoo (talk) 19:28, February 14, 2018 (UTC)

But isn't this an English-language wiki? Since this is an English-language wiki that is directed towards an English-reading audience, why not use the official English names that are provided by the official English sources? Since we are English-speakers, we don't know what any of the Japanese names mean, so it'd make sense to have them in English, translated by official sources.

I know that the One Piece Wikia admins prefer the romanized Japanese names, but this isn't the One Piece wikia. Unless you're an admin, or you can demonstrate to me that the admins of this wiki prefer to keep the Japanese names, I still haven't seen a good argument why we shouldn't use the official English names for an English-language wiki. While the Japanese names may be the originals, the English names are more accurate by default, since we can actually understand them. I apologize if I come across as persistent, but I just can't wrap my head around why you think the Japanese names are better, especially since we can't understand them. What do you think?DeeeFoo (talk) 20:47, February 14, 2018 (UTC)

I do realize that One Piece is Japanese, and I must admit that it feels kinda condescending for you to assume otherwise of me. However, the English translations do not use the romanized names of the powers. And it's not only the anime that uses the English names for the Haki types. I own the official Viz volumes, and if you look at chapter 597 in volume 61, this is the scene where Rayleigh starts to explain Haki to Luffy. Notice that the official English names of the Haki types are used. So no, the official English translations do NOT used the romanized Japanese names.

I understand that the One Piece wikia, as well as others, tend to also use the romanized Japanese names. However, using the romanized Japanese names is a choice that the admins of those wikias made, so I won't bother them about it. However, the admins of this wikia have said that they don't care either way, so I'm just trying to get you to understand my arguments for this wikia.

I know that some series use the romanized Japanese names for powers and attacks, even in their official English versions. However, '''One Piece does not. '''So why is it not agreeable to use the names as they appear in official English media?

I know that the Japanese names are official, original names, I'm not arguing that. However, why do you not see the English names as equally official? It's not like they came straight out of some fan translation, they come straight from the official distributors/translators of the series themselves, Viz and Funimation. For the purposes of an English-speaking audience, they're just as official as the Japanese names.

Is there something about the Japanese names that you're attached to, or is there something about them that you think illustrates their meaning better than the English ones? I am open to hearing your arguments. For example, "Santoryu" is translated to "Three-Swords Style" in the official Viz volumes. Which one do you think will convey more meaning to an English-speaker? I would argue the latter, since it's in English. When hearing the phrase "Santoryu", no English-speaker is going to know that it refers a fighting style that utilizes three swords. But upon hearing "Three-Swords Style", that meaning is conveyed instantly. Same goes for the Devil Fruits, such as the "Gomu Gomu no Mi", vs the "Rubber-Rubber Fruit". One of them conveys something meaningful to English-speakers, while the other does not. This is an English-language website, directed towards an English-speaking audience, so it'd make sense to have things immediately understandable for them. THIS is the major reason why I'm arguing for the use of official English names on this wikia.

Please keep in mind that I have nothing against you, I'm just trying to illustrate my point so that hopefully you can understand my argument, and hopefully see things my way.DeeeFoo (talk) 20:31, February 15, 2018 (UTC)

Rather than posting essays on each other's Talk pages, is there a way to do a live chat on this site? I'd love to hear your argument in more detail, since I'm starting to understand it a little bit. Would you be okay with that?DeeeFoo (talk) 20:48, February 15, 2018 (UTC)

This is going to be a weird question.

I read a message you left on imoto tan board in which you said you, and I quote: "Since i own the anime and LNs of Sunday Without God I know this to be correct."

I am sorry, I am probably nitpicking on something I shouldn't, as that was directed to imoto tan, and I just randomally noticed that, but it just got my curiosity.

what???

Count Vlad III dracula (talk) 20:53, February 15, 2018 (UTC)

I did not know that
I was given the facts by VS Battle Wikia :D

Imouto 21:39, February 15, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

The picture that I posted.
Iatneh 10:58, February 16, 2018 (UTC) so you're the one who removed the picture I put in that gallery of death embodiment heh? May I know why?

(Iatneh 10:41, February 18, 2018 (UTC)) so I should have made known user first then put it in gallery right? Thought it doesn't matter anyway anymore.

Hey, Sage
1- I know I'm repeating this, and this is annoying, Tell me, Totality encompasses EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING, right? It's also our own real world where I'm typing this message (remember I'm talking about our real world and not fictitious versions, parallel versions, indistinguishable versions or everything)? So how are things beyond our world?

2- Is DM-type Identity Law Manipulation?

3- Omniverse would encompass the real world, our real world (note what I'm saying of our real world and not parallel versions, indistinguishable versions, similar versions or etc ...)? Omniverse encompasses EVERYTHING? What includes emptiness, nothingness and everything else?

Vitorriq (talk) 11:15, February 16, 2018 (UTC)

Can You Please send me a link of the discussion that talks about how an omnipotent being can lend their powers to another character & still be omnipotent.

Thank You

LordWhis (talk) 11:49, February 16, 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I thought about our discussions, and I have come up with a compromise that I think will work out for both of us. How about we just include both names? Maybe have the Japanese name first, followed by the English name in parenthesis? I've seen several pages that do this already. What do you think?DeeeFoo (talk) 23:50, February 16, 2018 (UTC)

Answer please, this is my last questions
1- I know I'm repeating this, and this is annoying, Tell me, Totality encompasses EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING, right? It's also our own real world where I'm typing this message (remember I'm talking about our real world and not fictitious versions, parallel versions, indistinguishable versions or everything)? So how are things beyond our world?

2- Is DM-type Identity Law Manipulation?

3- Omniverse would encompass the real world, our real world (note what I'm saying of our real world and not parallel versions, indistinguishable versions, similar versions or etc ...)? Omniverse encompasses EVERYTHING? What includes emptiness, nothingness and everything else? Vitorriq (talk) 12:51, February 19, 2018 (UTC)

Yes for three questions? Yes? No?

Vitorriq (talk) 12:36, February 21, 2018 (UTC)

Much abliged for editing the Meta Fear Inducement article. ChocolateElemental (talk) 20:07, February 21, 2018 (UTC)

Oops, my bad :) - Kira's Kage

Good job, you just added Power Legs to Absolute Leap right after lecturing me that it's on "all of the leaping powers", really supports your case...

Power Legs didn't need to have Supernatural Leap or Absolute Leap because that power alone enhances the legs, but fine, have it your way... CrabHermit (talk) 05:45, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

I've been patient with you out of respect but Ryuma is seperate from his appearance in One Piece? And how is slaying a dragon not be considered supernatural? I'm assuming you removed Zoro slaying the Punk Harazrd Dragon,too? Look. Before I came along all the swordsman pages were crap. There's more than just having a Zoro gif and calling it a day. I'm going to continue adding pics and users, so ban me if you have to. Also, Mosters. That was Ryuma before me - Kira's Kage

First - Did you fix "Mosters"?

Second - So, what about Silver Samurai? He was capable of cutting ghosts.

Doable.

If it's Top Cow instead of Image Comics, please keep undoing Platinum changes. I'm already too busy going the changes backwards and removing the changes you missed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:01, February 26, 2018 (UTC)

Wow, "scienece experiment" and created by Ceaser? First - Diamante opened a damn fissure in the ground with his Half Moon Glaive, a. damn. fissure. in. the. ground. just by swinging his sword. Second - Guts? He went toe to toe with Zodd, the immortal a fucking monster with over 300 years of swordsmanship behind him. two times. He's wielded swords half his size. Third - certain swordsmanship and "Mosters"? I will continue editing this page whether you like it or not - Kira's Kage

By all means, please lock it. I can wait, you lazy prick.

Why? Movies aren't always canon and I see you've kept Claymores entry I added, can I ask why? - Kira's Kage

Then where are the swordsmen from the Naruto & Bleach movies?

I keep everything in alphabet order, I'm just adding individuals who need to be here. That's all - Kira's Kage

Sakata has lost HUGE amonuts of blood and he could still continue fight

Also, I forced myself to recheck Ryuma's bakground and he is the same person. - Kira's Kage

Look, I went to the One Piece wiki and it said he is the same Ryuma from Oda's Monsters. he appeared as a zombie in One Piece. Also, you were right about Sakata so I'll stop adding him. - Kira's Kage

Jeez, you're a real prick. What does it matter? He's the same bloody person, only we see his corpse in the Anime. Again, why does it matter? Also, you've been ignoring my entries such as Claymores & Berserk. Do I have to have come to you about everything I add? I'm updating Mihawk's pic and you disagree with it, why? I add the only pic we have of Ryuma when he was alive and you disagree with, why? Look, I'm not trying to miss up your page I'm trying to update it, that's all - Kira's Kage

So, they have so off their skills, weapons and fits? In that case, why do you have problem with Zoro slaying the "science Experiment"? Zombie Ryuma is just standing there and that's ok?

I added that for a representive purpose then I add gifs and pics where he shows off his feats. It was better than just slapping a gif and calling it a day - Kira's Kage

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page.

Supernatural Swordsmanship is locked until I'm told you're agreed over it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, February 27, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:40, February 27, 2018 (UTC)

I apologize for mistake : ) - PlatinumFist(7

First time I have to say it, but Temptress is simultaneously too specific (female?) and too undefined. Bit more details? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, February 28, 2018 (UTC)

Before Black Hole Physiology devolves into Edit/undo, please contact him and talk it over. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:31, February 28, 2018 (UTC)

Re: stop making things up
By logic, if you repeat something from someone else, and its made up, then the entity you are repeating made it up. So, why does google keep placing an outdated study as the top result for a grammatically correct pair of words?

Opdagon (talk) 21:34, February 28, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:13, February 28, 2018 (UTC)

Hey Sage, do we have a power like Influence Manipulation, the ability to manipulate influences on anything? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:37, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

What about a fact correction is unnesseccory or incorrect
Go look up chameleon on wikipedia

Opdagon (talk) 20:29, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Listen
According to your user profile, you have no ranks. So, their is no rule against disagreeing with you. So, if you are going to say that its not allowed, bring some substance to your argument or just leave it.

Opdagon (talk) 21:11, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Just because I have been wrong in the past doesn't mean I am a fountain of lies
Stop using past events that have literally nothing to do with the current events to say that I'm wrong. Only you look bad.

Opdagon (talk) 21:22, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Difference to Elasticity? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:41, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Something like snake for example? Doable.

Mental Entity Physiology/Psychic Energy Physiology? --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:03, March 1, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:10, March 2, 2018 (UTC)

Isn't that basically Omniarch? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:43, March 3, 2018 (UTC)

And? Is there a problem with "Users of" - Kira's Kage

Oops, my bad. - Kira's Kage

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:13, March 3, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:07, March 3, 2018 (UTC)

It goes beyond that. It deals with the abstract and concrete, the tangible and non-tangible, rather than just the four states of matter. I'd call it something else, but Kuopiofi told me to go with this name when I asked him about it some time back. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:58, March 3, 2018 (UTC)

By the way, I don't think you answered a previous question of mine: Do we have something like Influence Manipulation or not? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:36, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Okay then, thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:46, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Attack Erasure - doable

State/Status Transcendence - needs better name. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:23, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Again, oops - Kira's Kage

No no, I understand and sometimes I half-ass it. So, please fix my mistakes - Kira's Kage

Sky World Creation - Doable. There was similar world on one Spiderman story, can't remember the name and I have only Finnish names to go with, so you're on your own finding it. And of course the world where Dun-T'wn L'un Dun-T'wn is.

Challenge/Ordeal/Trial Empowerment - I think we may have something that covers the basic idea. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:24, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Sora No Otoshimono
I see you made a few edits over there. Are you a fan? Fullmetal Renkinjutsushi (talk) 05:40, March 7, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, March 7, 2018 (UTC)

Name/Users? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:26, March 10, 2018 (UTC)

Doable.

Also: 12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. Please move Metaphysics Manipulation to C/T. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:06, March 10, 2018 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. This is about Meta Luck/Meta Jinx Limitations. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:00, March 10, 2018 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. This is about Meta Luck/Meta Jinx Limitations.

Both are locked until this is argued over and done. Chancing page after telling the other side they are wrong without bothering to wait their answer isn't talking, it's dictating. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:00, March 10, 2018 (UTC)

And yet the point stands. In other words you need to convince him instead of just chancing the page again. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:20, March 10, 2018 (UTC)

Expand that to include similar forms of media (cartoons certainly, maybe live action as well) and you got a deal. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:23, March 10, 2018 (UTC)

Event Skipping - doable.

Temporal Fusion - doable but might want to rename it, temporal sounds like it was some type of fusion but only short-lived one. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:26, March 11, 2018 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't association presented as powers related or similar to? Omni-Embodiment implicates unity by encompassing everything; thus being everything and connected to everything. It should be moved from Association to Applications by this logic, No? OmnipotentDeity (talk) 08:12, March 11, 2018 (UTC)

How mcu work would that take? Would moving them to OP do it? --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:06, March 11, 2018 (UTC)

Change or delete Author Authority and Meta Art? Well, sure why not. Omnipotence should have no direct 'copy-cats' as the wiki rules that there should be no obvious copied powers. It's like if we had a fire embodiment and then someone made a hot fire embodiment. So, sure I'm sure we as a community could come up with differences for each. Hell Metapotence is too similar to Omnipotence and I suggested either removing it and basically saying what the page has on Omnipotence, or editing it a bit so it's simply 'meta-logic manip' as it should be. I could use some help if your willing! Afterall, I do believe Imouto is in agreement and so is Dybad on deleting Omnipotence Embodiment; And given Kuo's last comments, he is too. OmnipotentDeity (talk) 20:35, March 11, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:35, March 12, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:21, March 12, 2018 (UTC)

Hey Sage, would your Inertia Immunity power happen to cover g-forces and artifical gravity as well? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:52, March 12, 2018 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:37, March 12, 2018 (UTC)

Not sure? You mean it wasn’t intended for g-forces and artificial gravity? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:51, March 12, 2018 (UTC)

Imouto and others have no problem with it being called version. If anything it's prefered as Almighty Magic and Almighty Science are called Versions, Not variation. OmnipotentDeity (talk) 23:56, March 12, 2018 (UTC)

Don't we already have something like this? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, March 13, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:06, March 13, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:27, March 13, 2018 (UTC)

Fast Questions. Answer Please
Hi, Sage. I know I'm boring in asking several questions and getting charged. Sorry about that

I would like to see your point of view, can you answer these questions here, please? I'd hate to be ignored and hate to bother you if you're busy

1- I know I'm repeating this, and this is annoying, Tell me, Totality encompasses EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING, right? It's also our own real world where I'm typing this message (remember I'm talking about our real world and not fictitious versions, parallel versions, indistinguishable versions or everything)? So how are things beyond our world?

2- Is DM-type Identity Law Manipulation? 3. Omniverse would encompass the real world, our real world (note what I'm saying of our real world and not parallel versions, indistinguishable versions, similar versions or etc ...)?

3-Omniverse encompasses EVERYTHING? What includes emptiness, nothingness and everything else?

4- So, In fact, the "probably" did not, for the Totality would include the Omniverse, or rather, ALL the -verses. Which would certainly include, yes, our universe in which we live. Do you agree? Right?

The end this questions

Vitorriq (talk) 12:53, March 14, 2018 (UTC)

single breath that packs the same amount of power as a hurricane/monsoon - we have something like that, can't remember the name.

drop of water that can completely drown someone as if they fell in the ocean - nothing like this.

Give it a name and short description? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:27, March 15, 2018 (UTC)

Those are fan-made. CrabHermit (talk) 07:13, March 15, 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure I follow, Let's say a company like Marvel decided to animate some DC series (If that manages to happen because copyright) does that make it an official work as if it were the original-made by DC?

It's a different company animating/writing something that belongs to someone else, but if you feel like it belongs there, I won't stop you. CrabHermit (talk) 07:19, March 15, 2018 (UTC)

Doable.

Pretty sure we have something that covers the multiplying effect thing, but not the matter side. You might want to search what power it is. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:28, March 15, 2018 (UTC)

Will of the Mental World
Do you have a picture of Will of the Mental World? Halliemj (talk) 18:48, March 16, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:05, March 20, 2018 (UTC)

If you undo changes in Virus Mimicry, might want to do same to Unicellular Mimicry.--Kuopiofi (talk) 17:31, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

"I was the dark in the cave! I was the shadow in the trees! You've heard about... the primal scream? That was... at me!"
 * The First Bogeyman, Discworld

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:21, March 21, 2018 (UTC)

read the comment on the zipper generation page

In regards to memory vessel

"Whitesnake can first and foremost extract a portion or the entirety of a person's psyche out of their bodies in the form of tangible DISCS and then put them into people<sup id="cite_ref-:1_6-0">[7] . To do so, Whitesnake must touch its victim and take the time to physically "extract" the disc from them; as such, partial extraction is ineffective<sup id="cite_ref-7">[8].

There are two main types of DISCS: Memory Discs contain a person's memory and Stand Discs contain a person's Stand."

All of Enrico Pucci's Stands retain this ability, as seen when Pucci continues to create/extract/implant these discs with both C-Moon and Made in Heaven

D0munit (talk) 18:30, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

The Discs are still a container for all memories that the ability is used on, it doesn't remove the memory in the form of discs, and creates the discs and removes the memory with said discs. The memories are then permantly kept inside the disc unless they are A. Destroyed, B. Put into someone who is dying (thus destroyed the disc) C. Put into someone/the original owner of the memories. Whitesnake and all evolutions create the discs and removes the memories with the discs.

D0munit (talk) 18:39, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

It stores them inside the discs

D0munit (talk) 18:42, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

Are you okay? do you need an ambulance? that pole seems to be stuck so far up your ass that you cant move anything but your arms on a keyboard so you just scour this website for the most minute of fucking details that no one else would give a shit about

D0munit (talk) 18:46, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

I don't need to read the fucking jojo wiki unless its for minor fact checks, being that I actually fucking read/am reading jojo up to jojolion. The discs are still a vessel for the memories you twat.

D0munit (talk) 18:53, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

Then by your fuck all logic, California King Bed/Daiya shouldn't be considered as vessels because it steals memories and can't be returned unless Daiya wishes.

I'm not changed how the fucking ability works.

It STEALS and STORES all memories of the victim INSIDE A DISC. Not just fucking burns the memory away like you seem to be thinking. the memories are safe as long as the disc isn't destroyed, Pucci steals the memories and stores them in his discs how hard is this to fucking grasp

D0munit (talk) 19:02, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

Additionally you are saying "user" like Pucci uses it on himself, he fucking doesn't, he uses it on other people to steal their memories either for his own use/subduction, they're his victims.

Now you're changing the power itself in favor of yourself?

Someone can't offensively use the ability to store memories?

"The power to contain/store memories in object, being, environment or location."

That is the base definition of the power, doesn't say it has to be your own memories, doesn't say you have to be able to retrieve them at all times, he is capturing and storing memories inside the discs.

D0munit (talk) 19:26, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

Dude this power, and no power at all, has to always be used for good, someone could use the power to make infinite cookis for evil for fucks sake, just because he uses it in a harmful way doesn't mean its not the same power.

D0munit (talk) 19:36, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

Whitesnake also has stolen memories in smaller scale in the past, in the case of Pucci's brother, Weather Report, he stole part of his memory but he was still fine. In the chapters leading up to and of Heavy Weather, the rest of Weather Reports memories are returned to him by Under World when it uncovers the disc from the ground.

D0munit (talk) 19:43, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

So no time ever in fiction has anyone used a power to steal memories to instead store them inside a VESSEL. Pucci is keeping the memories safe and for himself. holy fucking shit, HE IS STORING THE FUCKING MEMORIES. THE ABILITY TO STORE MEMORIES IN VESSELS IS NOT STRICTLY A FUCKING SUPPORTIVE ABILITY. you are giving me another fucking brain aneurysm.

D0munit (talk) 19:46, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

Under applications there is memory ABSORBTION and memory ERASURE. Neither of these are supportive are they? So both the main description and applications support me

in addition, there are most definitly capabilities beyond that there is stated, I would edit to add that it can be used to capture and steal memories BUT YOU CAN'T LET ME ADD IT because "UwU this ability is precious and only used to good and support"

D0munit (talk) 19:50, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

Like I said before by your fucking logic remove Daiya Higashikata because she takes/stores the memories of others with her stand and doesn't remove her own ever.

AND AGAIN, CAPABILITIES AREN'T LIMITED TO WHAT IS ALREADY FUCKING WRITTEN.

Are you saying that a wikia page has NEVER had its capabilities have ever been expanded upon because another user of the ability uses it differently than others? if not, than i'd be REALLY FUCKING SUPRISED BECAUSE IT SURE AS HELL HAS HAPPENED

D0munit (talk) 19:56, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

Well, when someone uses a power of restoration to restore someone back to a fucking fetus, what than? is it still restortation? or not because it doesn't have the exact mirror of the capabillities at the time. Capabilities are different for ever user. Everyone who uses a power use it differently, and in pucci's case he uses it to harm people.

D0munit (talk) 20:10, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

THE CAPABILITES AREN'T THE FUCKING BASIC CONCEPT YOU TWAT

"The power to contain/store memories in object, being, environment or location. Sub-power of Memory Manipulation."

THIS IS. THIS IS. '''THIS. IS'''

HOLY SHIT

Capabilities have been expanded upon and changed in the past, the basic description obviously has not been, I am not changing the basic description you fuck wad

D0munit (talk) 20:15, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page.

It stays locked until you've finished arguing over this. Tell me when that happens. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:25, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

Bit too close to Retrocognition I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:02, March 22, 2018 (UTC)

About the picture
Yes that's right, but the one I posted don't match the description since she had to kill her friend to zombify her, since she is a quincy using her blood on her would be impossible.Rei Furuya (talk) 02:43, March 23, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, March 23, 2018 (UTC)

Depends, will you stop undoing the whole thing and chancing only the thing that is wrong? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:40, March 23, 2018 (UTC)

Isn't this the thing that got Deadpool and Cable mixed together? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:14, March 23, 2018 (UTC)

Fine then, you fix it.
Fine then, If you want to be THAT strict on the Page Creation and Details, feel free to edit all of the Archetypal Powers that have the very same template (Such as Child Prodigy and Trickster).

Page Creation and Details isn't the strict format for EVERY power, you should know this.

If, for whatever reason, I see that you aren't doing that, I'll just undo your edit on Old Prime because clearly you aren't cooperating (as for usual) and forcing your ideals onto others.

Should you persist to start edit wars after that, I'll ask the admins to lock the page.

Don't do it again. CrabHermit (talk) 07:26, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

I don't know man, you wanted to follow the Page Creation and Details without any exceptions so...

Plus you could in fact change powers like True Hero from "Archetype of:" like describing it to be "Having the powers of a true hero" or something along those lines.

I really don't want to start getting into this too much so do whatever you feel fits, if you want certain powers to be "Archetype of:" or "Power/Ability of:" then go ahead, what can I really say.

I'm not the one who makes the decisions or Page Creation and Details, like you said...CrabHermit (talk) 07:48, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, so they have to instantly understand an entire style and techniques? I see, Sorry. - Platinumfist(7

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:12, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

According to the definiton of recreation I found online, it describes Recreation as "the act of creating anew". As far as that and other definitions go, it says nothing about requiring something being destroyed first before recreating it. Don't add things that are not in the definition of a word. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:23, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

Even so, that still doesn't change one thing: powers like Life Recreation, this one which is a variation of Recreation, doesn't say anything about destroying one's life to recreate it, and I saw on other power like World and Universal Recreation that it says those things can be recreated "according to their wishes", with the "originally destroyed" part coming after "or", which comes after according to one's wishes. So having something destroyed is not a sole requirement to recreation. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:33, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

Don't be ridiculous! Just because one power says destroyed does not mean it is a necessary requirement. I don't see anything in Life Recreation that says destruction is required. Nor do I see things like Reality Recreation or Universal Recreation STRICTLY saying destruction is that much as a requirement. Plus, this is a Wikia, and anything can be changed, including the definition of the main Recreation page, and if I see it right, you're not an admin, or in place of what can get defined or changed or what doesn't.

So, let the admins decide. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:39, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

I think you are taking this too literally. Like I said, things can change. This is a Wikia, after all. And I don't recall you making the rules here. Despite the users, I am sure recreating can be done without destroying anything.

But if it does anything to silence you on this matter, I...well, check the power again. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:05, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

Doable, tho I think we have something that gets close to Body Cache/Repository. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:33, March 25, 2018 (UTC)

Got a real link? Search won't find it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:07, March 27, 2018 (UTC)

You realize that having one good pic =/= that we can't have any new ones? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:36, March 27, 2018 (UTC)

Please take a look at how many pics of, say, Magneto, Storm of Luffy we have. Unless it's completely inappropriate (current line seems to go with too much breasts or any genitals) or duplicate of existing one it can stay. In the latter case, the best one is kept.

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:10, March 27, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:55, March 27, 2018 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:48, March 28, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 19:39, March 28, 2018 (UTC)

Well,I wanted to ask that if someone possess this power then are they unaffactable to absolutely everything,because I think being unbound to verses and series you are no longer affectable by them or things inside them.Well,you created the power please tell me.

Multi-Emotion Inducement- nothing in Emotion Inducement says anything about how many of them can be induced, not even Limitations, so no.

Hat Mimicry/Hat Manipulation- now you're just being silly, plus too specific.

Others doable. But in future, just Edit your previous post instead of adding more posts. When more than one member posts between posts it complicates things, especially if they don't use signature. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:21, March 29, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, SageM, do we have any powers in this wiki about having superior (but not exactly unlimited/infinite/absolute) creativity? --Chris Urena (talk) 18:35, March 29, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the disrespect pal. Really appreciated that you pointed out that children knew that, if only you knew that children know respect and understanding, whereas you don't. CrabHermit (talk) 22:37, March 29, 2018 (UTC)

Whatever man, even if it is "common knowledge" you don't to say that I'm more of an idiot when compared to children just because I made a simple mistake.

"I can't believe you don't even know that" and "Even little children know that much" comes off as very rude and disrespectful.

You could have chosen words like "Hey, you made a mistake here, [insert proof and explanation], just letting you know, thanks for your time" instead of saying that I don't have common knowledge for one mistake.

My bad for forgetting that the damn moon pulls the oceans. Thanks for the "confirmation" anyway... CrabHermit (talk) 23:04, March 29, 2018 (UTC)

Unknown Existence/Dream Linking - doable.

Recovery Sharing - gets bit tot specific, we do have Power Sharing after all.

Pics not working happens sometimes, usually it just take some time to work again. Works for me now at least. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:34, March 30, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:25, March 31, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:29, April 1, 2018 (UTC)

As a rule, I'd prefer to keep Applications, Techniques, Variations and Associations sccrollbox-free.

That said, I'm pretty sure that many of the Applications are sub-powers of other powers, so checking which ones are covered by other powers and removing them should shorten the list. Possibly quite a bit. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:59, April 1, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 18:49, April 1, 2018 (UTC)well ,I asked this before,please reply this time that does totality connection makes users immune to anything/everything?I am asking this as conceptual transendence is an application of this power,so it induced curiosity in me.I hope you will reply this time.

Nekron2 (talk) 18:56, April 1, 2018 (UTC)You wrote that totality connection is simply the ultimate version of unbound soul ,then how conceptual transcendence is an application?Should't it be removed as it would directly make the user immune to anything/everything?

you said that it is simply the ultimate version of unbound soul,so why is conceptual transcendence an application of it as it would directly make the users immune to anything/everything?Should't it be removed.

I think I got it, lets see if it works. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:29, April 1, 2018 (UTC)

Reply
Yes, but seeing how Death was replaced and not back as himself, I don't think that they count. The page refers to the user being immortal tying to concepts, not to the concept itself. So the concept may still exist, but Death is still dead, even if Billie replaced him.

The character is dead, regardless of being replaced so I don't think they count anymore. They'd only count if Death himself actually came back, not replaced by Billie. Gabriel456 (talk) 17:24, April 2, 2018 (UTC)

Maybe but how exactly doe it sound less powerful if it sounds almost the same as Omnipotence? And sure scientipotencd may not be a word but neither is Metapotence or Cyberpotence or Oneiricpotence, yet they sound perfect for the description. For the Omnipotent levels of Almighty Magic and Science. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

Call it Link Manipulation and expand the idea to cover all forms of links and you got a deal. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

True but AM and AS aren't true Omnipotence either their just after all their tide to the concept of their nature unlike Omnipotence. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

Very well don't change the name, but aren't AM and AS opposites and both have a fair limitation that they can't defeat true Omnipotence for the sake of logic. I won't deny that Lord of Nightmares are OP cause their also users of OP as well, but some users aren't truly OP either. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

I know that this is a bit late...
But none of my edits on the monster musume wiki in 2018 were reverted.

Opdagon (talk) 10:54, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

Doable, have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:25, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

Sage, that power has to do with ruling over and controlling all entities, not changing them without limit, sure they can change the entities to an extent but thats not what that power is mainly about, its about command not change.

It needs to stay that wayThe Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 03:45, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 15:45, April 5, 2018 (UTC)Well I just wanted to know about Sai Akuto's feat and why is he even listed as a user?Same with creasion from senyu .Unlike Fetherine Creasion is not the supreme ruler of his verse.

Also(as pointed out by my friend Nekron1)why are dreamers even listed as users of metapotence as in the entire game they are just not able to escape their prison?I want these answers as they have been added by you and none of their wiki pages state the awesome feats required to be metapotent.

Illogical World Creation/Surreal Dimension Creation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, April 6, 2018 (UTC)

Please stop undoing the whole thing and chancing only the thing that is wrong. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:29, April 7, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Sage M :3Ravonies (talk) 04:07, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:52, April 9, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, April 10, 2018 (UTC)

When replacing images.
What would you say is the minimum size and quality requirement for images then?

Also, could you please provide some examples? The reason I choose certain images is because it can be seen very clearly what they are doing, otherwise I wouldn't have considered it. DeeeFoo (talk) 00:30, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

I will keep those requirements in mind for the future, thank you for the constructive criticism.

For the Elemental Telekinesis page, I fail to see how the current image is sufficient. All it shows is some girl in a dramatic pose, with some flowers fluttering in the background. You could argue that the flowers are being influenced by her powers, but it's hard to tell. Like I said, the flowers could easily be misconstrued as simply being part of the background.

Also, the Enhanced Bite page. The current image only shows a character opening their large mouth. It doesn't illustrate any actual biting, which is what the page is about, since it's called Enhanced Bite. I replaced the image with one that actually illustrates a user biting onto something, which is why I chose to do that. What is it you take issue with in this case?DeeeFoo (talk) 00:48, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

I'd greatly appreciate it if you addressed my previous points. Thanks!DeeeFoo (talk) 16:04, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

Figure out better name for Meta Fundamental Forces Manipulation (way too clunky) and go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

Just to mind you, TF2 Freaks aren't necessarily gag characters, at least it depends on how they are created by other people. Just saying according to my knowledge about them. ChocolateElemental (talk) 19:14, April 12, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, April 13, 2018 (UTC)

Supernatural
Nothing you said about Amara and God disprove what I stated. Yes when god was dying on the season finale reality was ending but that does not mean Amara was ending. She literally is nothingness/nonexistence/darkness. She would have been the only thing left.

That line light needs dark was stated but that’s not meant as in I die she dies. God was talking about the stability of the universe which was about to go bye bye. Amara would have been okay. As I’ve already stated she has existed without God before. If Amara was dying anyway why even try to kill her like they devoted half the episode trying to do. God dying would automatically mean she dies thus canceling it out and restoring balance. That was not the case.

Secondly I never said Amara was the first I said she predated God. However since you bring up the empty I will point out it is a little early to bring claims about The empty with certainty. All we have is word of mouth from the cosmic entity and honestly the empty sounds like nothingness and that’s pretty much what Amara was.

Also the cosmic entity claims that not even God has control over his realm but yet God has brought Castiel back to life before a lot actually and presumably when Castiel died he went to the empty so God having no control seems unlikely and if so this will have to be explained. If it is false it raises other questions as to rather the cosmic entity is a reliable source of info.

Lastly I am a huge fan of supernatural if you can’t tell and that whole death killing God at the end is in no way confirmed and it is just what we have from word of mouth from death. It is a fan theory just like many others. A lot of people think the show will end up right back at Sam being possessed by Lucifer and the apocalypse happening.

After all in season 5 episode 4 Lucifer did say no matter what the boys do and no matter what they change they will always end up here. So people have stuck with that and think it’s going to happen but just like the death thing this is in no way confirmed.--Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 07:07, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

Re:Death
Interesting theory, it's just that we have no confirmation whether or not Death could kill god or just overestimating his abilities (we don't even know how powerful they are in comparison to each other). I think he could, but that's just my opinion and not actual fact.

As for Julian's return, I doubt that'll happen since Billie is now Death, unless it's a flashback or time-travel episode, I don't see how they'll be able to bring him back, unless they retcon Billie into being a more powerful reaper instead of being Death, but I doubt that too.Gabriel456 (talk) 16:08, April 16, 2018 (UTC)

Boundless Annihilation/Wipe needs better name but doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

So did you two get around talking to each other between yourself instead of talking on my Talk-page about Absolute Reincarnation? Made some changes, check them out.

Might have something like Idea Physiology already. Others doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:26, April 19, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. Check this fella. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:13, April 19, 2018 (UTC)

When you don't agree with some point of Edit, please stop undoing the whole thing and fix the point you're against. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:57, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

Absolute Users
I could not find any info on either really so before we get in an edit war about this I will give you the chance to show me how their users.--Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 23:52, April 22, 2018 (UTC)

Tokyo Alice is indeed a romance series right? Because that is the only thing I found from it. What disqualifies her is the first sentence where you call it an illusory world. If it is all an illusion she is not really absolute.

Also the divine cores don’t seem to fit either. I looked at characters who have them and for one all the skill does is keep her the same age and make sure she can’t be changed in any way. Her mind and body will absolutely always be the same. That sounds like Immutability not Absolute Embodiment. So based on this no they still don’t seem to fit. Am I missing something?--Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 00:12, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Just like the original argument that occurred right as I completed the page I will tell you the same. Atum absolute nature is indeed apart of him I don’t know where you guys are getting anything different. He is considered complete.

I can’t even find a character named Alice from this Tokyo Alice series much less info about her so it’s hard for me to truly understand her and based on what you have said she does not fit.

The divine cores don’t fit because the skills effect on one girl does not make truly perfect in mind body or soul. She is among the weakest people in the series. All that skill does is prevents her from being changed. I gave you the chance and based on what you are telling me they still don’t fit.--Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 00:29, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Sage M, Do we have a Walking Arsenal power, or Extreme Affinity power where one is so close to said element they heal or are becoming said element/item? Like Body of Blades.... which got deleated because it wasn't cool enough T.T

We also need Mochi or Dough manipulation Because Katakuri now exists. Ravonies (talk) 04:12, April 25, 2018 (UTC)

Reality Bypassing - existing powers don't cover this?

Static Aging - too specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, April 25, 2018 (UTC)

Nonexistence can do any of the above, depending on what exactly is targeted. By targeting internal bonds it can break anything down to nothing. By targeting the object itself it can wipe it out completely. By targeting the form only it allows its recreation. By targeting the essence it prevents it. By targeting the present and future it allows rememberance. By targeting the present and past it prevents it.

Those are just the most obvious examples among many. Nonexistence is the "omni" power of erasing abilities, able to perform any related application on any level, complexity and thoroughness

I guess Omni Wipe could be the ultimate application/technique, completely erasing the target in the most absolute and ireversible way. Something like "Ultimate Erasure" would be more fitting though.

DYBAD (talk) 08:14, April 25, 2018 (UTC)

How about this
Bring me one user who actually fits it properly and then I will bring it back. Ayin & Basara do not count as users. Imouto 20:38, April 25, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

On second thought this in non-negotiable

The limitations on Nonexistence make perfect and reasonable sense, because Ultimate Erasure would have these same limitations i.e. Cannot create/manipulate anything, even indirectly. Targets must be clearly identified (beware collateral damage) and Omnipotent beings are completely unaffected.

Which are all reasonable limits for Ultimate Erasure as well Imouto 20:44, April 25, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, April 26, 2018 (UTC)

You don't think it has any association ot Multicolored Lightning? Ravonies (talk) 22:00, April 27, 2018 (UTC) Also do you have a discord or something I can talk to you on? Ravonies (talk) 22:00, April 27, 2018 (UTC)

You were the one who undone it. Though they are both maybe all are Spectrums of their respective elements, and allow one to add properties into them... hence the assosiation. If anything we should add the various types of lightning to the aplications of MLM We also need Dough Manipulation.... because Kata F***ing Kurie from One Piece recently.Ravonies (talk) 22:08, April 27, 2018 (UTC)

It adds nothing
It adds absolutely nothing to the wikia and Omnilock gives you all of the Advantages of Omni-Transcendence and it already has a page. Imouto 00:27, April 28, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Fantasy World Enforcement is no more than Subjective Reality limited to laws, all it does is brings non-physical fantasies to reality. So no, it has nothing to do with transcending what doesn't exist, which once again is a blatant contradiction. DYBAD (talk) 03:12, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Done, now to return it to pages it was removed from. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:30, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Please keep your quotes on the short side. You've deleted more than few for that reason. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:06, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

We discussed many times about many powers, you should know by now the usual sophistry simply doesn't work. One cannot transcend something that does not exist. The very notion is a blatant absurdity that you are fully aware of, and that I will entertain no further ^ ^; DYBAD (talk) 07:29, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

"Creator" is not a person in the Umineko series, it's a threshold of existence - the state of having completely lost all limitations. Lambdadelta explained in the Visual Novel that the cost of this absolute trancendence is to essentially cease to exist (even Featherine isn't one, she "touched" this ulimate threshold but did not cross it, which is the reason she still exists - having notably retained the "limitation" of her own meaning), which is precisely where I got my explanation from.

DYBAD (talk) 10:06, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

It was pointed out that Omni-Transcendence is too close to Omnilock and I have to agree. Deleted. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:59, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

This is from the light novel, not the wiki:

He remembered. No human eye could perceive her overwhelming speed—and the secret to that was that she did not accelerate. Usually, when a blade was swung, it would start out slow. One needed to accelerate the movement in order for it to reach maximum speed. But there was no such thing in any of Edelweiss's movements. The moment she made to step forward, she was already at top speed. As she began to slash, she was already at her maximum. An extreme stop-and-go, racing from zero to a hundred in a flash. But this technique was extremely strong. The extremities of its swiftness and slowness made the blade strokes seem many times faster than they were. It was also incredibly hard to keep an eye on the blade itself, since it had no slow initial speed. DevilSlayer123 (talk) 21:15, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

oh.
Btw I probably missed it may I have scan that the white phoenix doesn't exist in any reality or dimension?

"Edelweiss's swordplay isn't normal. Normally, all of a human's motions are created by the coordinated movements of muscles. However, that will not let you use Edelweiss's swordplay. To create that kind of extreme zero-to-one-hundred difference in speed, you need all the required muscles to move together instantaneously, and instantaneously muster the full strength of those muscles. A human normally wouldn't be able to send sufficient nerve signals instantaneously for that to occur."

DevilSlayer123 (talk) 23:36, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

I was pondering this strange power that is Transcendence Embodiment. What is mean is that, with this power, not only does the user transcend something, but also become the embodiment of the concept of transcendence itself. Its power is not only to transcend itself, but also help others transcend in some way. Something like the aliens in 2001: A Space Odyssey. Does such a power already exist?

I guess I could search the in-game pictures warranting what I said previously (I distinctly remember multiple screenshots going in details over it), but you would just roll again and find something else to nitpick about, so I'll just let you believe what you want since that's how it always ends anyway. DYBAD (talk) 01:50, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

'Notes: Featherine isn't "a" Creator. The English translation says something like "Featherine transcended the level of witches and became a Creator". However, the Japanese version stated that Featherine transcended the realm of witches and reached the realm of the Creator, but she only touched the last boundary. Anyone who actually becomes part of the Creator itself is completely erased, due to loss of all restrictions, including life, death, and meaning. This also explains why "Creators" does not make sense. The Japanese version has no plural.'



What we do know is that "Creator" is defined by a complete lack of restrictions and a resulting cessation of existence, which seems to support the idea of an ultimate state of being more than some form of supreme entity that the term "Creator" is usually associated with, about which there is virtually no reference nor involvement of any kind in the entirety of the series.

So while there is no Word of God to settle the subject (probably because they love the mystery of it too ^ ^) and thus no final certainty, the odds do seem heavily stacked in favor of the first.

DYBAD (talk) 03:46, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Another Possible Meta Fear Inducement User
According to Teen Titans Go, the Magic God can count as this thanks to his power of banishing certain individuals into eternal enslavement according to his judgements. Even Raven and Robin has a right to show fear towards him. However, like any God, and to make up for his fearsome power, is that he can be forgiving to mortals. What do you think? ChocolateElemental (talk) 20:56, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron1 (talk) 17:57, April 30, 2018 (UTC)Absolute change is beyond the scope of reader embodiment.Probably,you haven't read it's capabilities.It clearly says the user is immune to absolute change.This is way beyond omnipotence.We created the power to surpass absolute change and like powers.

Nekron1 (talk) 18:07, April 30, 2018 (UTC)That rule is for true omnipotence and not its forms/expressions.If that is the case ask an admin about it.

Reader embodiment is defensive version of omnipotence and it's very idea of being unaffectable to even absolute change was approved by Kou,so,stop.

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page.

Do I need to lock the page until you get your argument over? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:16, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

To give outside perspective to the argument, I give my personal opinion about AC/MPI. As they are essentially opposite powers and both directly under Omnipotence (one sub-power, other expression) it comes down to the same rule as all direly opposing powers: ultimately it depends on the relative power-level, experience and who hits first in roughly that order. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:36, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

Absolute Change "change anything". Meta Power Immunity "be absolutely immune any and all powers of any level". One changes anything, other can't be affected by other powers. That sounds pretty much opposite powers to me. Tho Immutability might be better opposite to AC as it is "absolutely immune from any alteration or change by outside force".

I didn't mention anything about RE, personally I think it's not on this level. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:46, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:25, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

Hmm
As far as I am concerned as long as it is a character stated to exist in the fiction it can added Imouto 21:20, April 30, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Answer Please
Hey, answer some questions, please.

1- Do you think, believe or know that a true omnipotent exists?

2 - Definition Manipulation is related to the law of the identity of Aristotelian logic?

3- Are you creating Omni-Transcendence? I will love this power

Vitorriq (talk) 23:26, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

Expand that to all emotions and you have a deal. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:02, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron1 (talk) 08:45, May 1, 2018 (UTC)Well,I don't think you get our power at all.So,let me clear the doubts.

1)Users treats the entire totality as a story which therefore includes non-fiction and don't remove anything from capabilities,you cannot change the definition for the power.The main core idea of the power was that it is immune to anything and everything.So,saying "maybe" is like saying an absolute immortal "maybe" killed by an ordinary knife.So,those limitations aren't valid

2)You heard Kuo about absolute change.Also,meta power immunity has casualty immunity,i.e,changing them won't affect them in the least bit.So,absolute change won't affect them due to that,plus their immunity cannot be bypassed.So,I am removing them.And,I am saying this one more time don't remove anything from capabilities.

With my apologies Sage, but I'm only just trying to categorize the users, since it would may be confusing for most people. And just to give you some advice, when people make the simplest of mistakes, you shouldn't be blunt about it, I'm just saying. ChocolateElemental (talk) 18:56, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Please stop undoing the whole thing and chancing only the thing that is wrong. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:00, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

I see. But there's always a better option, I can assure you. ChocolateElemental (talk) 19:19, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

This nonexistent realm is ultimately "something", and as such can be made to (really) not exist, as in no realm at all in place of an empty one. What Nonexistence cannot do is create/manipulate, as long as it comes to removal, it works perfecty in any situation. DYBAD (talk) 21:23, May 1, 2018 (UTC)

Well read it in wikia and it said that can create and destroy universe. Like if it's an empty void it will create a universe but in a universe it will wipe it from existence except aliens X. And Just because it wasn't its purpose it doesn't mean it's not capable of nonexistence. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

Okay, then why isn't it on the Music Manipulation Page? shouldn't it be in the requierments?

Also do you think a better name would be suited to this power? Musical Manifestation sounds like you're creating music rather than turning into music.

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 03:35, May 2, 2018 (UTC)nickthebrick1

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:08, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Got to agree with Imouto, Omniverse Creation/Destruction pretty much covers those. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:49, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:30, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:15, May 3, 2018 (UTC)

Err, the limitations on Power Reversal were legitmate? I was told by Imouto to edit them in, if you want you can ask her OmnipotentDeity (talk) 00:32, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

But again, it was something Imouto said to do. You can ask her yourself. She stated, and I quote: "Absolutes/Metas/Omnipotent/Conceptual powers are immune to it, No exceptions", and even she herself agrees that there are powers that can't be reversed as there are no reversed form of it. Plus, this would give way for Meta Power Reversal. (Similar to how there is Meta Power Opposition.) So there may be actual rhyme and reason for it. OmnipotentDeity (talk) 00:41, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Well, Perhaps you can now suggest it again with a valid claim attatched rather then it just being a 1-up power! Meta-Power Reversal is beyond power reversal as it would be capable of reversing any power so long it has a reversed state, and so long it's not an Omnipotent power. OmnipotentDeity (talk) 00:52, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Not My Problem
It isn't my problem that not every power has an opposite or could be countered properly Imouto 00:54, May 4, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

You say that yet.. Meta Power Opposition still exists, and there's no shaming in always asking! You now have a proper reason for it's existence, I'm sure Imouto and Dybad would be fine with it now! It doesn't hurt to try ya know! OmnipotentDeity (talk) 00:59, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Might want to soften your tone a bit, people tend to react negatively when they're told something in a way that basically says they are idiot. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:54, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Hmm? I don't see why I should stop? Both Imouto and Kuo have approved the idea for Meta Power Reversal. They've also seen our discussions and are for the idea. I believe if anything, I should continue as both ideas were given the thumbs up. You can try to discuss it with the two admins if you wish. Omuni (talk) 21:06, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Oh? That's not what they told me today (not even an hour or two ago)? They seemed for the idea and agreed with my statements on it. Plus, it's not directly absolute change; If anything it would be an application under Meta Power Reversal. I'll ask Imouto again myself if you wish though. Omuni (talk) 21:33, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Hmm? Actually now that you mention it, Inversion is very similar to my idea for Meta-Power Reversal; Actually to a T. My bad then :p if anything I'd say we should add as an 'also called' name, perhaps Meta Power Reversal since it seems to fit it pretty well. Also, why did you remove the approved edit from PR on it being incapable of affecting Conceptual, Meta, Omni and Almighty powers despite Imouto saying it wouldn't? Omuni (talk) 21:37, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Oh? I'll make sure to ask her in the chat since she told me something different and get back to you on that. But as I saw it, with the including of Inversion being approved for also called Meta Power Reversal it could perhaps show the difference in power level. Afterall, a perfect example is Power Negation vs Omni Negation. Power Negation can't negate absolute, conceputal, meta or even Omnipotent powers while Omni Negation can. On a side note, not sure if you were there but Kuo approved for the power Fusion (Direct Opposite and Counter to Seperation; Replacing the Unity Force it opposes currently on the seperation page and essentially making an actual power that could counter and put back together what has been split; Similar to Omnifience to Nonexistence.) be made, but I'm not all that good in creating such crazy powers, so I was wondering if you'd like to make it instead ;p? Omuni (talk) 21:59, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

I was given approval by Imouto to change it to be an association/variation. No Art Manipulator under the known users are capable of creating cosmic keystones, or conceptual materlization, and thus SA wouldn't fall as a sub-power but a variation or association. Omuni (talk) 23:27, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Gets pretty close to Nonexistent Physiology with all Variations. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:33, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Please check Supernatural Artisan definition/applications. It's bit more than just being supernaturally good artist.

Lifespan Empowerment - Age Absorption turned inwards? --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:34, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

I'm honestly seriously tempted to remove at least Ascended Transcendent Demon Physiology, Fallen Transcendent Angel Physiology, Transcendent Angelic Mage Physiology, Transcendent Demonic Mage Physiology, Transcendent Homo Superior Physiology and Transcendent Superhuman Mage Physiology for being too specific/limited. Maybe Transcendent Poltergeist Physiology as well. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:45, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

This is starting to get silly... go ahead. But next one should be Enhanced Physiology that collects all the various powers into one place. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:00, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Like cetaceans? They sleep with half of their brain. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:58, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Meta Miracle Usage
Yes if that was the most benificial outcome. Like if the supreme being was in fact not a benevolent being and the characters wanted to free themselves from his dominion then yes a Meta Miracle could be used to accomplish this. --Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 23:55, May 5, 2018 (UTC)

Mmm, I'd sort of agree on your points on the species specific powers, but dragon is the hard one to determine. Like I said to Kuo; Elven physiology as multiple different variations and types of elves, yet the idea of transcendent elven physiology was denied still. Though I'll exclude them for now since you make a somewhat valid point. Omuni (talk) 03:43, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Excuse me...
But did you get my Form Splitting page deleted for some reason? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:16, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

That's strange. I asked him about the power before, and he approved. I called it Form Separation, back when I asked him about it. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:34, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Don't be silly
You do not need to be godly in order to use godly powers, besides that aren't species specific Imouto 16:33, May 7, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Don't worry though, I have a friend of mine if you want to get these articles back.

http://archive.org/web/?&ui3=1

The Wayback Machine as its name suggets, can allow you to go back in time and go through some archived internet pages from the past. ChocolateElemental (talk) 16:37, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

Any character that can be labeled as Transcendent of their race can just be placed on the normal page for their race. Imouto 16:58, May 7, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:46, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

From what it reads Whiteout is an advancment to Blizzard Creation. All it does is create snow storms it does induce instant sub zero.Sypherpol (talk) 21:19, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

They're both the same issue. Both storms take effect gradually, Whiteout happens instantly. As if a spontaneous conversion of the atmosphere's nitrogen into liquid form. If anything what I made is a combination of Blizzard and Ice Storm abilities.Sypherpol (talk) 00:22, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

HAHA!!
Yeah I’m glad. I have to say SageM you were cracking me up earlier with your doom and gloom end of days rhetoric. You even had me asking is it really over?? Luckily everything worked out so no need for you to petition for a wikia shutdown.🤣🤣🤣 --Я☻ҰĀℓğטĀЯб-Єℓ│דЄ (talk) 00:30, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Oh really? I didn't know! Thanks for informing me, I only named it that since it's what Kuo told me to call it! Omuni (talk) 01:03, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

I heard you guys never cared about the opinions of other's on this site but I never knew how bad it was. Sorry I bothered with this.Sypherpol (talk) 01:35, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

You may have forgotten, but I'm actually an admin too, so my getting involved is perfectly legitimate - and the points brought up are very much valid. So I will stop once they have been properly adressed. DYBAD (talk) 04:20, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Destiny Linking - we may have something like this... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for the disturbances on your Talk Page. The huge content and automatic source mode create a bigass lag that makes even the smallest message a real pain to type ^ ^; So I tend to cut the previous content before doing it, and paste it back once I'm done (forgot a couple times so far).

Why keeping this huge obsolete part that slow down the process so much ? DYBAD (talk) 04:51, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Aside of being sub-power of Omnipotence, not that I can see. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:12, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Uh.. No? Homer and even the power itself states immunity ONLY to the radioactive aspect of nuclear waste. It's not immune to a user of nuclear manipulation or atomic manipulation, which was the point of Nuclear Immunity. Omuni (talk) 21:56, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Also there's nothing stating Immutability can't be affected by Immunity Bypassing. Even the users below in the power agree. Omuni (talk) 21:58, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Yeaah.. No
I'm going to be adding it back. Imouto agrees. It's a power against the user being altered or changed. Immunity bypassing isn't altering or changing it, it's simply bypassing it's immunity. This power is a variation of Omnilock, not omnilock itself. Regardless of it being a sub-power of omnipotence it doesn't mean it has meta power immunity. Read Immunity Bypassing again, the only direct power that stops it is Meta Power Immunity; Something Immutability doesn't have. Omuni (talk) 22:04, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

That's fine, I've already spoken to Imouto about it, but you can do that if you wish! I'll make sure to ask Dybad. As for how, First off your misreading what Immunity Bypassing can even do. It clearly states it /may/ be unable to bypass higher lv immunties like Omnilock, not that it is unable to. Had you said it should be written instead as a "Immunity bypassing may be able to affect the user" I would've agreed. But your not arguing that, your arguing it can't all together. Which is very much so wrong. Omuni (talk) 22:11, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Because it's a sub-power of omnipotence does not mean it's immune to everything. Again, Immutabilities very purpose is to be an immunity to /change, alternations, and outside forces/ not to Immunity Bypassing. The power by it's very definition is just like any other immunity power and still has the potential to be bypassed. Your point is moot on it being a sub-power of omnipotence. So is singularity, Physical godhood and many other powers. If you wanna be technical, all powers are sub-powers of omnipotence as it has complete arsenal. Repeating the same thing isn't a valid claim. Omuni (talk) 22:18, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Uh.. No? I think you need to recheck your facts. Meta Power Immunity is literally stated to have ALL immunities. Try Again. Also, Meta-Power Immunity is outright stated to be the direct counter in it's capability to immunity bypassing and the only power to actually be immune to it. Basically Bypassing Immunity. So regardless of it having immutability in it's applications is a moot point. Omuni (talk) 22:46, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

Rules may say many things, but it seems I have 2 admins that agree with me. Also, did you really need to copy and paste what you've told me before? I've already said thats irrelevant. Please message me once you have something new to add to the discussion. Omuni (talk) 23:39, May 8, 2018 (UTC)



Back from lunch and laggy browser, I'll check things out and keep you updated. DYBAD (talk) 01:37, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Would Reinhard van Astrea be a user of Immunity Removal? Omuni (talk) 02:47, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

We never get bored, that's for sure ^ ^

Please post your questions on the relevant page(s), it will ve easier for me to follow while avoiding the laggy back and worth, and allow other users to follow and share as well. DYBAD (talk) 03:22, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Way too many omni-powers already. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:25, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Omni-power - bit of a break of the, been bit heated...

Game Attacks - go ahead.

"opposite power to Unconscious Mobility"? Don't remember that at all. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:49, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

SE is basically about suffering, regardless of the source/way it's done. So torturing/being tortured counts. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:02, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Logic Negation/Healing Field Projection doable.

I think we have something like that, can't remember... --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:16, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

To be fair
You had those powers on your page for years and it is not like you have a copy right on any specific power. Any user can make whatever power that they please and just assuming that someone is stealing your ideals is rude.

No ideas are truly unique to one person as that is not how the real world works.

Imouto 20:18, May 9, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

"So your just going to take all my ideas and make them yourself?"
I can only take so much of this. Lemme drop some reality on you, so brace yourself, because it might shock you.

You can't claim powers as your own original ideas, or are you saying I can go out and copyright eye laser beams right now? Superpowers are not an intellectual property, my dear sir, they are a transfictional collection of ideas that you can't just claim for yourself. Would you say this to a totally new person on the wikia if they create a page you "claimed" by sheer coincidence? That certainly wouldn't look good now, would it, hm?

At the very least, if you're so self-important about this, how about not posting the names of these powers on a public page on a public wikia where the entire world can see them? Just an idea, because you're literally asking people to take them if you just put them up like that.

Holokami (talk) 20:26, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

I was thinking about adding him originally, so yeah I will change it to him now :D

Imouto 23:44, May 9, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

I took a look
It was a bug but I got it fixed Imouto 00:19, May 10, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

I realized that, I already put it back Gabriel456 (talk) 01:18, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

Food Dilution - doable

Defensive Attacks - Rough Armor?

Data Travel/traveling - Digital Teleportation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:19, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

I was editing/creating the power.
I was currently making/remaking the power with Imouto, hence why I updated the page quickly. Also it was Imouto who agreed it should be removed as a variation, I don't do things without asking first. Omuni (talk) 22:58, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

Okay
I hear you and I will speak with the other admins about it Imouto 23:07, May 10, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

I know what you meant and again I will bring it up with the other admins, please wait patiently Imouto 23:29, May 10, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

World Ejection "eject anyone/anything from the world", Burying "bury or submerge people or objects beneath any sort of surface"? --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:51, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

"eject anyone or anything from the planet or world they are on", the sky is one option, so is moon or outer space. That said, I think the power could use some clearing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:10, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

OK, I saw your conversation with Kuo on Burying and World Ejection and I thought I would give my input as I was the one who made those edits so I'll explain my reasoning behind it.

Let's make some comparisons first, suppose you have a shovel and you decide to dig a hole and bury something into the ground, when you dig it back up, does it fly immediately out of the world or does it lie in the spot it was dug up in? See what I mean? It just doesn't make sense for those two to be exact opposites.

Plus I looked at World Ejection and it mentions trapping targets outside the planet which would not make it the opposite of a burying ability but rather a variation as it involves trapping something.

That pretty much sums up why I changed Burying to be the opposite of Unearth, just plain old logic. Hope that explains it. CrabHermit (talk) 23:42, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

No, Kuo didn't agree, he said it needed more clearing.

Imprisonment is still imprisonment. It does not make it the opposite even if the location is difference, even if the sky and earth are opposites. That would make World Ejection a variation to Burying not the opposite. To make something the opposite is to make it completely inverted/countered without any similarities, such as how Death-Force Manipulation and Life-Force Manipulation are opposites.

I am not trying to argue my point but I am explaining why I did what I did. Simple as that. Yes, admins have the final say in the matter but logic plays a key part in situations like these and your power is a very confusing one. CrabHermit (talk) 00:34, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

So, you're trying to make these powers verse-specific? Guidebooks mean nothing on situations like these since we are the ones defining these powers, not the guidebooks. Yes, guidebooks play a key in making powers but they don't hold all the cards here.

I am going by logic here but you are going by a series that said something is the way it is because they said so.

Can you please indicate where Kuo agreed with you? because I can't find it at all. CrabHermit (talk) 00:40, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron1 (talk) 11:03, May 14, 2018 (UTC)Hello sage!I have failed to find any proof that the manipulators from the neverending story are users of reader embodiment.? Can you explain me how they are users of Reader Embodiment?

Defamation is a whole new low for you isn't it?
I'm not sure why you seem to think I'm targetting your pages or giving singular opinion based edits to said pages when it's something I discuss with Imouto, other editors and staff on the discord server. If anything your edits and created pages should be checked. When I brought up the topic of Alternative communication vs Omni Communication vs Omnilingualisim most players and Imouto agreed they were illogical regardless of how one was created. Omni Communication was created to be the sum of ALL communication powers, something alternative communication falls under and as such not an opposite to. You saying it doesn't is the equavilent of saying complete arsenal doesn't have a power or Omnipotence which is 'all-power' isn't all-powerful or is missing a power. Please check yourself. Omuni (talk) 18:57, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Also for future reference when reffering to me I am a she, her, girl/woman. I'd like it if you would stop saying him/he. Omuni (talk) 18:58, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

As someone who considers you a competent Editor and as much a friend anyone can be with only this site as contact point, I have to say that you need to step back and take a breath, you've been awfully aggressive lately. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:09, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

"But he and Imouto removed it" Hmm? Omuni (talk) 19:15, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Omni-Communication
Anyways onto the main topic. Omni Communication is very clearly shown and stated on the page to essentially be capable of speaking to ANYTHING. Meaning it has ALL communication-based powers. Saying a communication power doesn't fall into it is a illogical statement. Cosmic Otherness is still known to someone Omniscient, that doesn't change. A formless mind can still be understood by someone omniscient; again these are powers that can't be changed to their deepest concept. I understood the concept of alternative communication, but it doesn't mean it's right. It is the power to be essentially immune to omnilingualisim. You can't learn it and thus counters Omnilingualisim, but Omni-Communication isn't about learning; It already has it. It can speak to ANYTHING. Omuni (talk) 19:15, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

That seems like a pretty simple question (By the way, thanks for being my 1,000's edit lel) let's look at the power and explore it.

Omni Communication - The user can communicate with anything and everything, including people, plants, animals, insects, microbes, the dead, non-living/inorganic matter, inanimate objects, machines, nature, abstract/conceptual forces, etc.They can correctly perceive and understand the speech, emotions and reactions of anything and everything they communicate with.

Omni-Communication doesn't outright mean the user communicates via just speaking and thats the only way. Afterall even in real life thats not the only way to communicate. Movements, thoughts, facial expressions, etc are all considered ways to communicate. And again, Omni-Communication is the ability to communicate with anything and everything, including and not limited to concepts. Things that typically don't even have conciousness. It's like the ultimate Omnitone and telepathy in a way. Now lets look at Alternative Communication.

Alternative Communication - User's way of communicating/language is so radically different and/or alien that they may be physically impossible to understand or overhear, even less reproduce by outsiders. Their method of communication may not just be merely non-verbal but also entirely unique to them, such as communicating through various natural phenomena, supernatural or metaphysical means, and/or even methods that are truly abstract (like dreams or memories) or that have no basis in the physical/tangible world. User may also be able to hide/disguise their method of communication so that no one outside of their own kind may be able to understand or speak with them unless they chose too.

Alternative Communication makes it clear learning or even trying to learn said language is near-impossible if not straight up impossible similarly to how it's almost if not straight impossible for a non-omniscient being to understand someone with a formless mind. However, in this case Alternative Communication falls under a limit. It's still communicating and even states it here: " Their method of communication may not just be merely non-verbal but also entirely unique to them, such as communicating through various natural phenomena, supernatural or metaphysical means, and/or even methods that are truly abstract (like dreams or memories) or that have no basis in the physical/tangible world." This statement very clearly proves and shows that they are still communicating and as thus fall under Omni-Communication which is the power to communicate to anything and everything. If an omni-communicator wanted to, they could probably speak to even nonexistence/a nonexistent being.

I believe this helps show the reasoning and logical basis for why others, I, and Imouto the admin on at the chat at the time all agreed this edit would be beneficial, not breaking a rule or opinion based. Omuni (talk) 19:30, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Err, where did that sudden limitation come from? That COULD possibly be a 'may' limitation for Omni-Communication, but the power as it is doesn't seem to have that limitation. As far as the power goes, it could easily understand and respond to hundrends if not more things. But I do agree that could be a potential limitation for Omni-Communication. Omuni (talk) 19:36, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I read descriptions of Omnilingualism, Alternative Communication and Omni-Communication, did some thinking and came to following resolution:

Omni-Communication - "communicate with anything and everything, including people, plants, animals, insects, microbes, the dead, non-living/inorganic matter, inanimate objects, machines, nature, abstract/conceptual forces, etc.", which naturally means it covers quite a bit more than just languages/speaking. They can understand and communicate with AC users as that is what this power is about. Doesn't mean it'll be easy on higher level AC, but it is doable.

Omnilingualism - "speak, write, understand and communicate in any language, including computer codes, languages they have never been heard before, sign language (even lip-reading), illegible words, and backwards speech and writing with little or no training. The user may even communicate with non-human animals or read body language." in other words, it covers what we could consider language/speech and anything User can sense/produce, even artificially.

Alternative Communication - "way of communicating/language is so radically different and/or alien that they may be physically impossible to understand or overhear, even less reproduce by outsiders", meaning that on lower levels it's hard to get, higher levels it stumps Omnilingualism. I think that counts more as a Limitation for Ol than opposite. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:44, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Ah alrighty. It's still not outright a way Alternative Communication would be immune to Omni-Communication, but again could be a possible limit. Do you have any counter-points to what I said? Or can we now both agree that the edit made was acceptable and not opinion based? Omuni (talk) 19:44, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Wouldn't that be Gravity Generation?

The only part where the new types of particles is mentioned is on the Capabilities and other two just mention creating them, so I think that adding just creating them works. Go ahead.

I think the page needs to be renamed to Particle Creation instead of Construction... --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:20, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Say, Sage, about Status Manipulation, would that power happen to cover situations, state of affairs, events, whole places and perhaps reality itself? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:19, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

So it doesn't really apply to events, situations, state of affairs and such? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:36, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:43, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

Partial Possession? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:37, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

One Question
I'm not 100% sure if they would count as omnineutral, but I guess all, most, or one of the Celestials from Marvel Comics can also count. What do you think? ChocolateElemental (talk) 19:36, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

We don't have that? Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:42, May 15, 2018 (UTC)

One more question: Does Status Manipulation cover concepts as well? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:10, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

But not all of them, I assume? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:18, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

Fundamental Aspect Recreation/Probability Reversal - doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:13, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again on this matter, but does Status Manipulation affect objects and places of any kind as well rather than just living beings? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 04:23, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

You said...

"State of Being/Condition does potentially apply to objects and places. as quality, damage, growth, etc apply to those types of things."

But State of Being/Condition does not apply to objects and places in every way, since only some concepts are affected by Status Manipulation, does it? And how does Status Manipulation affect actions, if it does? Sorry for the late reply, by the way. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:08, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Say, did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:02, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Might want to check what Irony Inducement does, cause that doesn't really sound anything like II. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:24, May 18, 2018 (UTC)

I have this feeling that we may have something like that... or was it something that was suggested to me? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:31, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

Doable with notes.

Flight Negation - used by Shaman on one of the fights Alpha Flight had.

Primordial Weaponry - as in Power Weaponry? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:40, May 21, 2018 (UTC)

See here. If that doesn't fit your definition of legitimate source, please make sure to contact Clockwork Cthulhu's Talk-page and explain why they get removed and tell him to stop. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:38, May 23, 2018 (UTC)

Then explain it to him. I know the rules since I write them down. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:50, May 23, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:13, May 24, 2018 (UTC)

so can I use Sentinels of the Multiverse the video game, The official wikia https://sentinelswiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page, the RPG starter kit, Freedom Four Annual #1 https://sentinelsofthemultiverse.com/comic Sentinels Sidekick phone app or https://sentinelsofthemultiverse.com. all of it is online and on text?

Clockwork Cthulhu (talk) 18:07, May 25, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:26, May 26, 2018 (UTC)

Personal Reality - I think we have something like this...

Personal Mastery - doable.

True Domination - Subordination Manipulation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:25, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

That's pretty much the Hindu/Buddhist concept of time. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:50, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, May 29, 2018 (UTC)

A bit late, but somehow, I knew you were going to say that. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:25, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

By the way, you wouldn't mind if I make something called Condition Manipulation, would you? It is the ability to affect the conditiions of things, and unlike Status Manipulaton, this power just manipulates the quality of the state the object is in, whether good, bad or perfect. It affects the appearance, quality, working order and excellence of people, places, objects and perhaps events, and does not affect statuses like visible/invisible, fast/slow, god/human, wide/narrow, high/low, balanced/unbalanced (in terms of physical balance) and so on. Any objections? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:43, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

I dunno, Attribute Manipulaiton, while it could cover objects (even though it does seem like it is more so just living beings based on the applications), it seems to be limited to a single property of an object, or place. Condition Manipulation pretty much covers the whole object or place or being. Plus, Efficacy Manipulation seems to cover the effectiveness of something, as well as the probability of something. Condition Manipulation isn't exactly that. Got any other words to say about this? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:21, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

So, is it okay to do it? I explained the differences between those powers above. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:54, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:46, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, got your message just now and saw Gabriel already dealt with them.

DYBAD (talk) 21:15, May 30, 2018 (UTC)

Then why was that association only on Animal Imitation and not powers like Animal Morphing? I was going by the assumption that animals are not in fact aliens but aliens could be animals, thus why I removed it from the associations.

I don't see Alien Physiology having the Category:Animal-Based Abilities added to it, might want to add that to keep the association there...

If you really wanted to keep the association there, don't just do half a job and it to other animal-based abilities. CrabHermit (talk) 01:05, June 2, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:29, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

Simulation Manipulation
You said Tree Diagram doesn't have this power. Could you please explain? Does it have to be something like what Rin does in shelter and not just numbers? Thanks.

Ah never mind. I see you put the reason on my talk page. Thanks. Fullmetal Renkinjutsushi (talk) 06:22, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

Simulation
Sorry, I still can't understand the difference. Isn't making predictions based on the info the same as manipulating? Just change the input. Fullmetal Renkinjutsushi (talk) 07:12, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

Charisma is defined as the possession of highly developed emotional and social communication skills. For this reason I believe it should be added on the Emotion-based abilities category. Please let me add it.Arxontas fantasma (talk) 09:30, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

Memoria
"Actually Memoria is the memories for every world and reality in the final fantasy franchise. this is confirmed in the crystal world"

Please provide a source. Because I do not recall this being remotely mentioned in the game. The Everlasting (talk) 23:21, June 3, 2018 (UTC)

Just wondering...
Looking at the powers you plan to do, and I'm just generally curious.

What would the functions of these powers be? I'm curious to see them as actual pages. If you could make some of them sometime soon, it'd be nice. I feel like we got off on the wrong foot earlier. ^^; The Everlasting (talk) 01:03, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) Access Bypassing
 * 2) Attack/Defense Alteration
 * 3) Dimensional Interference
 * 4) Endless Dream
 * 5) Meta Age Manipulation
 * 6) Meta Skill Creation/Manipulation
 * 7) Metathymesia
 * 8) Power Restart
 * 9) Totality Recreation.

@SageM I see, but that doesn't answer what the other ones would be, and what pages do you need to make first? The Everlasting (talk) 02:31, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

I see, I see. Well, can I get more specific direction? Kuo's talk page doesn't really have it anywhere that I can see.

I would still like specific definitions of Metathymesia and Meta Age Manipulation though.

Unrelated, but have you ever tried using Sandbox? It's a really handy thing. The Everlasting (talk) 02:54, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

Fascinating stuff. As I always say, as long as you can clearly define the power and have at least one user, it should be good for a page.

I remember in Homestuck that The Signless can remember events that happened in the pre-scratch version of his universe due to his past life in that universe being a "Seer". Like, he could remember what life was like in that universe even though, by all intents and purposes, that universe never existed due to being reset. Crazy stuff.

Now I just wonder what Access Bypassing and Totality Recreation are (And who would qualify for the latter). The Everlasting (talk) 03:22, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

The difference from Omni-Weaponry is that a use like Meta Power Weaponry would not be capable of using every single power, but be capable of manipulating the powers of others. As in its only actual definite power would be the ability to manipulate others' powers, not to use all possible types of powers.

For instance, it could, for example, destroy or otherwise eliminate (or augment) someone's Fire Manipulation, but not necessarily use fire itself.

GZilla311 (talk) 02:29, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

Ascended Physiology, Ethereal Physiology and Essence Physiology come to mind. There are probably more. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:49, June 5, 2018 (UTC)

How would Existence Distortion work? (And also who qualifies for Totality Recreation :P)

Pardon if I'm so inquisitive. The powers just sound interesting to me. ^^; The Everlasting (talk) 21:57, June 5, 2018 (UTC)

Well, I hope you can get to making some of these pages soon. They sound really interesting. Now what would... Access Bypassing do?

Which ones do you think you'll do first out of your list? The Everlasting (talk) 22:24, June 5, 2018 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah, he would fit.

I would suggest a page for Totality Destruction buuuuuut we already have Absolute Destruction. Sad.

You ever use Sandbox by the way? I feel it'd be helpful for this sort of thing. The Everlasting (talk) 22:45, June 5, 2018 (UTC)

Now what would Access Bypassing, Experience Skipping, Immunity Field Projection and Emptiness Inducement do?

Again, I hope I'm not bothering you with all my questions. The Everlasting (talk) 01:26, June 6, 2018 (UTC)

Doable, but prepare to complains that it's all about opposing Boundary Manipulation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:15, June 6, 2018 (UTC)

 Hi, above is a link considering the emotional basis of charisma. I really feel it should be considered an emotional based abilities. I am sorry but I don't understand the reason of your disaggrement, it is just a notable addition. What do you say?

 Hi, above is a link considering the emotional basis of charisma. I really feel it should be added in the emotional based abilities. I am sorry but I don't understand the reason of your disagreement, it is just a notice that I've made. What do you say?--Arxontas fantasma (talk) 19:06, June 7, 2018 (UTC)

Dimension Shifting "change targets physical dimensions". Should I delete all personal powers since the the manipulations already cover them? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:58, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

Dimension Shifting and Personal Dimension
Okay. I did not think that things would go this far so I will write this. Firstly, I created this power for the sake of adding to the personal types of superpowers. I wanted this to be a fun addition. I had already looked at Dimension Shifting and figured there was enough difference for the power inclusion. Secondlly, there are plenty of powers on this site that could be considered similar or identical enough to warrant excess evaluation and I doubt that is something anyone wants to do. Thirdly, Kuo already approved it and the fact that you would alter another article in response just to make your point tells me that your argument is mostly individualistic and personal rather than being meant for the betterment of the site. If there was ever an issue with Dimension Shifting's language, maybe you or someone else should have handled it sooner. Finally, you need to relax. This is a fandom site. This is meant for enjoyment, entertainment and enligtenment. The fact that you are so overly concerned with this article and emboldened to have it altered and deleted tells me that you take this way too seriously. Have fun. That's what fandom is about, right? Or are you just trying to be difficult? Anyways, I hope you consider these points and others. Take care. Kusarigama (talk) 19:43, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

Then why didn't you go by the first definition instead of chancing it to User only? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:26, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

Check if we have Mental/Psionic Transcendence equivalent, otherwise doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:23, June 23, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Nigh-Complete Arsenal, edit reversal

I recently added Peter and Arthur Petrelli to the "Known Users" section. Each of these characters, during their primes, possessed most of the powers seen in the Heroes canon up to that point (they did not express all copied powers, but they still possessed them). Discussion in the comments indicated that the "Arsenal" of powers is defined by canon, not by this wiki; regardless, the Petrellis possess a diverse array of powers, enough to tick most category boxes. I considered this sufficient justification to include them.

You then reversed my edit, leaving the message: "not even close." You provided no further explanation, either in the comments or on my talk page. Since the mere assertion of "not even close" is not an argument, I'm re-adding both users to the list. If you still disagree, leave me a message, and we can discuss the matter instead of editing back and forth.

ShadowMonarch212 (talk) 10:46, June 24, 2018 (UTC)

So pretty much Intuitive Aptitude, except (Limitation). --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:15, June 26, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, June 29, 2018 (UTC)

I'm not gonna discuss anything on the talk pages, it's far too inconvenient... if you're gonna argue with me, do it on the comment sections of the article page... 04:38, June 29, 2018 (UTC)

As you know about which should go where, can you take a look at the Users and clean it up? Quite a few don't really belong to Enhanced Condition after all, that's one point that made me create Body and Mind as separate powers.

If you know better pic, go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:51, June 29, 2018 (UTC)

Do not take it off again, Meta Immunity Bypassing is literally SUPPOSED to bypass that immunity to a T, It literally meant to completely bypass even the most Omnipotent immunities and AI isn't even Omnipotent, it stays Sage, not just because its one of the most valid limitations to a power on the site but because the mods say s as well now.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 05:53, June 30, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:20, July 12, 2018 (UTC)

OkLu666 (talk) 00:12, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

I did not know I created my character you using the beast from Infamous that's the closest I could actually and I don't know how to draw since I have Tremors in my hands and this is an original character even if I didn't create the character sorry if I actually did not know the rules

Lu666 (talk) 00:28, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for giving me the rules I will be thankful I did not know that

I read a thing about meta ability creation I created a fan fiction and I've tried to bestow the characters power on myself but have failed multiple times how do you do it how have you done it because I read an article on the meta ability creation site that you have done it sorry for the misunderstanding https://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Lu666/edill_d



Can you tell me how to make meta ability creation work with a character ask again sorry for the misunderstanding

Kalifa and Bubble Aura
If it looks like an Aura, Acts like and Aura then it is an Aura. Please stop removing Kalife from Bubble Aura. Imouto 20:56, July 14, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

My New Power
I gotta say, you really know how to bum out someone. Your passion for the issue is admirable, but it does border on obsession. Here's the thing. The definition of an Elemental Aura is already pretty murky as far as the site goes, but it allows for individuals to be added. To undo what has been set in place would undermine a number of powers. One could say that Air Aura and Earth Aura aren't applicable because many of the users do not release their respective elements; they merely manipulate available substances. That alone pokes holes in your argument. You can continue your debate, but it will not change the fact that Kalifa will stay as a user. It may not satisfy you, but the best thing you can do is let this go. You will feel a lot better about it. Enough time and energy as been wasted on this that could have been used for more profitable and enjoyable ends. I am sorry that you are so upset about this, but as far as I am concerned, this is the end of it. Take care and good life to you. Kusarigama (talk) 02:09, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Gender Transcendence/Gender Embodiment - doable.

Soul Embodiment/Supernatural Energy/Sealing Empowerment/Absolute Life Manipulation - doable.

Multi Status Boosting - Support Powers?

Emotion Physiology - Emotional Energy Physiology? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:33, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

So, I was thinking of making a page for Draconic Machine Physiology, to go with Angelic Machine Physiology and Demonic Machine Physiology.

Bionic Dragon Physiology is mostly geared towards robot dragons, not machines with draconic powers, y'know? Smijes08 (talk) 16:50, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

SageM, is there a power in which the user can teach/train anyone to do anything no matter how complex or difficult and with considerable quickness and efficiency?

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:24, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

OK. --Chris Urena (talk) 00:16, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

Clarification
Defunct Physiology - lacking the weaknesses of organic life. My power is where one is actually made of or can transform into inorganic matter. Also, I was not trying to ask for a page to be deleted. Only so that the connections would allow for my page to be published. This has happened before when others have attempted to publish pages. You need not leap to the worst conclusion. Kusarigama (talk) 03:09, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

Efficient combat
I see you reversed my edit. Kakashi qualifies for efficient combat and attacks. Because he has average chakra capacity he uses them with no waste, having very refined chakra control. Same goes for Itachi. Quote from Naruto wikia

'As an Uchiha, Itachi's chakra was naturally strong, but his actual reserves were below average, made worse by his terminal illness. This prevented him from participating in prolonged battles and limited his use of Mangekyō Sharingan techniques to three times a day before he needed significant rest, at which point even his Sharingan deactivated. Itachi had very refined chakra control, however, which compensated for this. He was even able to perform his techniques with one-handed seals.'

Can't find the one where kakashi's is stated directly but he qualifies. What do you think? Thanks

"The Great Will is probably the most complex being in the history of fiction since the Nameless Mist of the Lovecraft Mythos."

How complex is The Nameless Mist? I saw how you outlined The Great Will, and am curious on what TNM is like. The Everlasting (talk) 20:33, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

Really, really fascinating stuff. You know any other particularly complex characters like this? The Everlasting (talk) 21:20, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

I found that from there: https://zelda.gamepedia.com/File:BotW_Calamity_Ganon_Artwork.png --RizX44 (talk) 07:45, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

Efficient Combat
I thought it meant fighting without wasting energy. Naruto wasted a lot of energy when fighting before. His chakara control improved greatly later as seen when he was able to use techniques without waste such as using Rasenshuriken with one hand and being able to adapt chakra for the entire allied force. This is important is because great chakra control means little waste. Thus efficient. It is true that kakashi collapses after every fight but that is a case of STAMINA not EFFICIENCY. Rasengan is the highest level of chakra control and Kakashi can use it.

And is the Itachi example correct?

Thanks and sorry to drag this out. if I am still incorrect then please explain it to me. Fullmetal Renkinjutsushi (talk) 09:13, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 10:39, July 19, 2018 (UTC)Well,do you remember any on screen instance of an absolute immortal being reforming after being completely disintigrated?

I have seen this in manga,comics,etc but never on screen,so can you suggest me any such instance?

Nekron2 (talk) 16:30, July 19, 2018 (UTC)Well,do you know any onscreen instance whre an absolute immortal restrores his/her/its body after after their body gets completely disintegrating/destroyed?

I have seen this in manga,comics,etc but never onscreen like in movies or anime.I think we have a lot of users in the anime and television section so,is there someone who literally restrores his/her body after it is completely distroyed onscreen.I really need this info and I am asking you as you seem to be one of the main contributers of the absolute immortality page.

Pretty sure we don't have that, but that's way too specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:20, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, July 20, 2018 (UTC)

Might want to change the name, Transmutation is used for those powers that change the substance into the thing. See Fire Transmutation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:47, July 20, 2018 (UTC)

Pearl Jam
I am still looking into it at the moment Imouto 22:32, July 20, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Thank you for the in depth and lengthy analysis over the issue that I really couldn't have been able to contribute.

Now why did it happen on my Talk-page... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:29, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

Sounds like Despair Inducement/Suicide Inducement combination. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:27, July 21, 2018 (UTC)

Psychic Cloning/Telekinetic Cloning --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:19, July 24, 2018 (UTC)

Just so you know...
I am going to have that power we had a discussion about deleted. But to be clear, the reason is because even if I somehow convinced you otherwise, tons of others (tons in this case) likely would not, and the debate would go on, and I am in no mood to see that happen. Not that I don't have the logic to try and back it up, I just don't have the kind of heart to continue, possibly endlessly in this case. Good day. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 04:36, July 24, 2018 (UTC)

Check they aern't too close to anything we have and have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:33, July 24, 2018 (UTC)

Dimensional Adaptation
SageM,

I saw, on your list of abilities to create, is dimensional adaptation. What's your intake on the ability in terms of capabilities?

Halliemj (talk) 16:35, July 25, 2018 (UTC)

Doable.

Check this. They apparently did something similar. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:57, July 26, 2018 (UTC)

Assist the Discussion about Captain America's Enhanced Physiology
Hey SageM. I review the comments you talk about with other users. I believe it it time the truth needs to come out and spread about Captain America's physicology. If you get the chance to read this message, please visit The Discussion for Captain America's (Steve Rogers) Enhanced Condition.(Super-Soldier Man22 (talk) 00:01, July 27, 2018 (UTC))

Primordial Magic - pretty sure this is covered.

Infinite Resourcefulness - ... and? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:56, July 28, 2018 (UTC)

This is my latest idea. Brain Scanning.

The power to scan one's brain patterns. Got the idea from Shadow Falls. Smijes08 (talk) 03:23, July 29, 2018 (UTC)

Expand that to Insanity/Madness empowerment. Pretty sure we don't have that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:23, July 29, 2018 (UTC)

Sounds more like Illusion of some sort, or possibly dimension/spatial power. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:49, July 29, 2018 (UTC)

Plot Immunity - pretty sure we have that, or at least very close to it.

Skeletonization - doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:37, July 30, 2018 (UTC)

Flawless Indestructibilty
Nekron2 (talk) 17:51, July 30, 2018 (UTC)Well,as I said on the comments section of flawless Indestructibility page that being able to gain a weakness is itself a great weakness.So, I do thing that the weakness creation limitation should be removed as far as sealing is considered I seriosly don't know what will happen in such a situation.

I am not going into an editing war.First we finish this conversation unit then no editing will be done from my side.Just say why and how weakness creation is a limitation and which user has till date been affected by that power?I will wait for your reply for one day.If no reply comes I will edit the page.

Nekron2 (talk) 17:57, July 30, 2018 (UTC)Also,when you have no weakness why should weakness creation affect you anyway and after all it is indeed a limitation to weakness manipulation so weakness creation a sub power to it shouldn't bother you.

Nekron2 (talk) 18:03, July 30, 2018 (UTC)Well by that logic I will say that due to being immune to all harmful effects they are immune to all super powers(meta power immunity is an application) and weakness creation is itself a harmful affect plain to which the user is immune plain and simple.

Doable.

Incidentally, do I need to lock one more power just after we finished the last mess? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:16, July 30, 2018 (UTC)

SageM can I help you with your new power idea that you told kuopiofi about. --Pokemonfan807 (talk) 23:31, July 30, 2018 (UTC)(User:Pokemonfan807) 7:31, July 30, 2018 (User:Pokemonfan807|talk) (UTC)

Way too vague as is, give it some thought. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:21, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

Connection to Intuitive Aptitude? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:23, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:20, August 1, 2018 (UTC)

even so, madara is very close to the description, because it creates something similar to a copy of itself that can not be detected. Then what do you think are the beings that are suited to that power?User talk:Arquetion

Weakness Creation
Nekron2 (talk) 18:45, August 2, 2018 (UTC)Well,I edited the limitations on weakness creation page so as to cover all the powers in one point and your response for editing it was-

"Don't change the limitations, its kept separate for a reason."

What is precisely the reason can I know?

Nekron2 (talk) 18:52, August 2, 2018 (UTC)This time I think you are right.Though flawless Indestructibility still stays on the limitations as it is by all means the technique of perfection which protects the users from powers like weakness creation but it will be seperate.

Have those been cleared up with other users (Comments/Talk-pages) so there won't be massive argument over them? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:19, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

Done. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:33, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

Don't we have something like that? I think I remember vaguely similar power... --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:30, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

I think more broader version could be more useful. Sacrificial Power perhaps? We have few powers relating to sacrifice by now. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:24, August 4, 2018 (UTC)

The Situation
You are being far too literal with your definition standards. Healing. Curing. They are both terms dealing with restoring the body to a point of equilibrium. Kagero was able to restore Jubei with her poison kiss. That is the situation. That is how it shall stay until I have received word otherwise. The admin's word will decide, not an opinion from a single dissenter. Sorry, but that is how I choose to have this handled. I await the outside conclusion. Just wait and see. Kusarigama (talk) 04:28, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

Poison Healing
As far as I am concerned Healing and Curing are synonymous with each other do to being synonyms in various Dictionaries. So even if she doesn't heal she did cure him with according to the dictionary is a synonym for heal. And as you pointed out she diluted him of the other poison which technically cured him of that poison and allowed him to live. Imouto 05:21, August 5, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

That'd be sub-power of Eternal Bond? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:43, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. How's it related to Heart Stopping, Heart Entity Physiology, Heart Stopping and Heart Construct? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:55, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

I have yet to read JoJo unfortunately... so again, I can't properly comment.

Does their mind match their superhuman bodies ? Better put, do they possess an intellect greater than the vast majority of characters (or at least the vast majority of the JoJoverse) ? If the answer is no, then they can't have a Supernatural Condition. But if you've read/watched JoJo then I'll leave that decision in your hands. 01:59, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:21, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

Alright first of all, I wasn't even done with the Six realms page. I was basing what I made on the outter wheel which is what inevitably leads to kharma in the first place. I believed thats what the Outer Path in Naruto was based on. Further more, few if not all of the techniques I listed in Pgysical Plane are remotely adjacent to any of the powers currently there. Some aren't even applications of which last I checked and frankly many of the applications aren't listed either.Sypherpol (talk) 04:36, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

SageM could you reply to my newest comment on the Omnipotence page. I want to know how you feel about it because it's really important.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 17:01, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

For that to be true, Wish Granting should include Nigh Omnipotence. As is, it has Reality Warping which isn't on that level. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:32, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

Not that I know.

Might want to check if there's a spell in HP that does that or if it's just fanfiction idea. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:26, August 11, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I was rushing and didn't read it throughly - Kira's Kage

SageM do you have any beef against these two superpowers I'm going to create. Dream demon physiology. Sure some may say oneiric physiology already covers that but this could be a variation of that and bill cipher and the dream demons from Freddy Krueger are good examples of users of this power.

Transcendent swamp monster physiology. I thought of this because doesn't swamp thing have this. After all he became a god sortof and his powers became stronger than before.

Also what would happen if two users of meta power reflection were to attack each other.

I'm asking you these powers because I just want to be safe and not be like that piece of shit guy that you said made up stuff and is going to get banned.

I also want to tell you im doing all I can on superpower wiki because it's summer. Once summer is gone and I move to 11th grade I won't be able to help you all or barely because I got to study and do homework. I may be able to help you all after 11th grade because there is a final summer. But I need to study for 12th grade. Then I need to go to college and get a job.

Because of all this I have to say something. After summer I'm going to miss you all. Even you SageM.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 01:36, August 12, 2018 (UTC)

Too specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:27, August 12, 2018 (UTC)

BTW, have you told Malachi1377 why you keep undoing his Edits? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:52, August 12, 2018 (UTC)

Tell him anyway, we do have rule about that for a reason.

By "same thing on other wikia" you mean? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:07, August 12, 2018 (UTC)

To some extend, but I wouldn't really place SD on the same level. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:22, August 12, 2018 (UTC)

the difference is that the user can amplify the beauty, not manipulate it.User talk:Arquetion

does not induce beauty only amplifies itUser talk:Arquetion

How do I improve my page?
This is the first page I created without eliminating it, how can I improve it?User talk:Arquetion

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, August 14, 2018 (UTC)

You know sageM should superpower wiki have an upgraded version of soul manipulation or soul destruction. Im just asking.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 11:55, August 14, 2018 (UTC)

SageM. I was right about the presence is omnipotent. I used to think he was not Omnipotent because of that statement he said to Lucifer about him being created by special forces. But then I realized he is omnipotent because he was referring to the authors because no fictional character is stronger than the comic book writers.

Some people might argue he is not Omnipotent because he died by one of his own swords. They forgot that he faked his death.

But some people might still argue he is not omnipotent because he gave his Omnipotence yo Elaine. That's not true. You can be Omnipotent and give someone else your Omnipotence because that's how Omnipotence works since Omnipotence is do what ever you want.

In fact I explained to Anthonytheidiot when he said how can Omnipotence be greater absolute. I explained to him because it's Omnipotence you hear me Omnipotence. Omnipotence doesnt care if you are meta, omni, or absolute. Omnipotence doesn't care because I can do whatever I want. I gave Anthonytheidiot a couple of examples. An omnipotent can make an ant omnipotent because it wanted too. If an omnipotent wanted to be greater than an absolute then it can because it's Omnipotence. I also gave Anthonytheidiot an analogy to Omnipotence. The analogy was Omnipotence is basically the big kid on the playground who dominates all the little kids on the playground.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 19:51, August 14, 2018 (UTC)

Don't we have something similar? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:46, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

Whoops. Sorry. Smijes08 (talk) 19:50, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:26, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

SageM did you notice the new comments I've left on the Omnipotence page.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 20:50, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

This has already been discussed (indirectly) on the extensive Cap thread as well as with Kuopiofi...

But, just to affirm, Supernatural-level powers are about being "blatantly more powerful than other people of their universe (reaching into high superhuman territory)". Absolute-level powers are about being the best/limitless. The Capabilities are not saying that users are "the best, better than all the rest in the universe", they are saying that users are some of the best in the universe. In essence, Supernatural-level are some of the best, Absolute-level are the best. 21:58, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

You don’t seem to believe me when I say admins themselves have stated this?.. Alrighty, simple solution I guess. I’ll contact Dybad or imouto. They themselves have said so before while in the chat’. Omuni (talk) 02:47, August 16, 2018 (UTC)

Calm down
No need to get heated over a minor edit, I have went ahead and changed the wording on the page. Please do calm down or a time out will be in order until you calm down. Thank you Imouto 03:14, August 16, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Got a definite name? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:11, August 16, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:06, August 16, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:34, August 16, 2018 (UTC)

Support the mainstream Captain America.
SageM. I support the discussion page for Enhanced Condition and it is about whether is Captain America need to be in EC. Fightnightwinger had made his point about the mainstream Captain America being in EC page. Can you support it by adding a good message to the mainstream Captain America?(Super-Soldier Man22 (talk) 18:38, August 17, 2018 (UTC))

re: Eva Age
Yeah, you're right. It's more like Illusive Appearance. Thanks for pointing that out. Smijes08 (talk) 23:32, August 17, 2018 (UTC)

SageM ever played heroes of might and magic or have you heard of it.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 17:14, August 18, 2018 (UTC)

Doesn't Motion Bestowal just impart motion to things that aren't moving, causing them to move? The power I had in mind can be applied to things that are moving, normally to make them faster. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:12, August 19, 2018 (UTC)

Meh, Dirtlessness doesn’t do everything the other power does, and is not limited to unclean substances. I am sure it can work as a sub power of that power. It is more of an external body power rather than internal. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:27, August 19, 2018 (UTC)

Again, Sanitization affects the inside of the body as well as the external. Dirtlessness does not, but could work as a subpower. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:49, August 19, 2018 (UTC)

SageM why do I really have this feeling of wanting to hit you.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 01:49, August 20, 2018 (UTC)

If that's the case then why the fuck did you not put meta power reflection as a limitation on universal irreversibility.

If you say that you can't put universal irreversibility as a limitation on meta power reflection then why aren't you putting meta power reflection as a limitation on universal irreversibility.

Roses are red

Violets are blue

SageM I hate you

And fuck you.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 11:36, August 20, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad (But in a way the totality is not infinite?). Well, I don't want to argue with anyone on this wiki any longer than I do. But like you said, Could I add she in Absolute Manipulation or you'd think it better not? MinusKing13 (talk) 00:05, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. Would Lobo count? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:57, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

I removed them because the Celestials are covered by Absolute Condition anyway; as a result, they have Absolute Intelligence, Wisdom etc. by default. It seemed redundant to me for them to also be listed on powers that they are already said to have as a result of having an Absolute Condition.

If it still winds you up and you're adamant that they should stay, even after this explanation, then by all means keep them there. Doesn't bother me anyhow. 20:05, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

My bad, didn't read the capabilities properly ! 23:26, August 21, 2018 (UTC)

Don't we have something similar? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:45, August 22, 2018 (UTC)

Figure out the connections between those powers to TM and go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:54, August 22, 2018 (UTC)

Hey SageM, can I ask a question? What is exactly/difference between soul and spirit? I'm trying to think of new powers to add to those pages but I keep getting confused.

Are Soul and Spirit like another version of Life-force and Aura or am i missing something?

Nickthebrick1 (talk) 02:41, August 23, 2018 (UTC)nickthebrick1

Not Concept Replication? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:47, August 23, 2018 (UTC)

Eh, I dunno, Sage, that power is more of a "perform any action without difficulty" kind of power, not so much of a "control movements perfectly" power. Plus, from the looks of it, Perfect Control would have much more control than Flawless Coordination, making it so that it allows for defying and possibly infringing physical forces and properties such as inertia, which apparently Flawless Coordination can't do, and when could Flawless Coordination directly control speed and direction of movement? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:13, August 24, 2018 (UTC)

Hmmmm, are you sure about coordination and control? I thought Coordination was the ability for body parts to work together to produce a desired effect. That doesn't necessarily have to do with control now, does it?

But still, controlling speed and direction, and angle, and so on, I still think this power is different, especially since it seems to control more than just what Flawless Coordination can do. Perhaps another name would suffice?

Plus, the capabilities of Flawless Coordination:

"The user's physical abilities are heightened to the point where they can perform any physical act without difficulty. The user merely needs to imagine themselves doing the act in their mind, then they're able to perform it without any problem. This could range from free running, to juggling swords, to doing multiple back-flips."

Now, I might be able to see how control ties into this, but to me, it still has its limits, does not defy physical forces and control speed and direction, and seems more like a performing power. Not to mention the perform one act at a time limitation.CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:53, August 24, 2018 (UTC)

Point Manipulation - bit too meta, others doable.

I'll check KA's --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:36, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

My bad, I was looking at the tags and didn't really notice their name was the "Brothers Death" not the "Brothers of Death".

Screenshot of the tags CrabHermit (talk) 08:10, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

Still, just telling you my reasons on why I made those edits.

Thanks for telling me the correct name though, I can't keep track of everything and memorize it all so a message can help out a lot. CrabHermit (talk) 08:15, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

Might want to mention that to them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:51, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

On division by zero
I would like an explanation on why my rewrite is rejected as the rewrite is used to address the fact that so many users are confused by this power (which I created it first)

Secret ultraviolet (talk) 09:36, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 15:45, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

Omni Inerasibility
Actually,no flawless Indestructibility cannot protect you against nonexistence as it has been confirmed by even Koupfi that it is the destruction attribute of omnipotence.Thus there is not a single power in this wikia that can counter.Hate to say all of this as flawless Indestructibility is my favourite power and I would have been more than happy if flawlessly Indestructibility could counter omnipotence which is not the case.

Nekron2 (talk) 19:28, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

I have posted a message on his talk page and am waiting for reply if he takes of the page and confirms your words then I have noobjections until then please wait and don't add the category candidates for deletion.

Nekron2 (talk) 19:36, August 25, 2018 (UTC)Okay then try and take it up with DYBAD and ask him if it is immune to nonexistece or not.The answer is no as nonexistence is the destruction aspect of omnipotence and flwless indestructibility is a sub-power of perfection which is a sub power of omnipotence.

I earlier added meta power immunity to the limitations of Nonexistence but DYBAD took it off saying that even that isn't immune to nonexistence, which even Kuo agreed to.There is nothing in in flawless indestructibility's arsenal that can protect it from nonexistence plain and simple.Hence the need of this power.

Isn't that basically self-Poltergeization? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:45, August 25, 2018 (UTC)

Omni-Existence Anchoring
I brought back the power so that it can be renamed and redefined being that it isn't about (at least in my opinion) having no flaws it seem more to me like the power to be immune to Noonexistence. Imouto 00:00, August 26, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Omni-Existence Anchoring
I have redeleted the page just like you wanted Imouto 00:12, August 26, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

You could modify Dragon God Physiology Capabilities bit to include transcendent ones too.

Virulence Manipulation - doable.

Impermanence/Mutability Manipulation - name doesn't really fit the description, sounds more like entropy. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:38, August 26, 2018 (UTC)

Omni Existence Anchoring
Nekron2 (talk) 06:10, August 26, 2018 (UTC)I now understand what you meant by the conversation yesterday my power gave users only immunity against erasure from nonexistence they can still be killed as killing doesn't make you cease from existence.

Also yes my motive is indeed adding limitation to over the top omnipotent powers like nonexistence which is worshipped like anything without reason.

I don't really have any plan on this regard, after emphasizing the over-the-topness of the power again and again and fighting off numerous nerfing attempts, it was just time to trim down the Users List section accordingly so as to fix this long-running dissonance.

I guess a good part of the removed users could find under the recent "Erasure" page instead.

DYBAD (talk) 07:15, August 26, 2018 (UTC)

Nonexistence and DYBAD
Nekron2 (talk) 08:38, August 26, 2018 (UTC)This is the sole problem I found in this wikia even some admins are biased regarding some powers.

Believe me I had absolutely no intention of creating any of the earlier powers.In fact as far as description and creation goes there are already four powers that should counter nonexistence-

1)Omnilock-This one speaks for itself and even you will agree with this.

2)Flawless Indestructibility-Zeno as we all know survived nonexistence using this power.

3)Meta Power Immunity-User is immune to all powers even omnipotent ones and thus by all means immune to nonexistence.

4)Absolute Restoration-Super Shenron restored all that which was erased by nonexistence a prime example of countering the power.

But even these powers fall weak against nonexistence for reasons unknown. My original motive to join the wikia was to complete the defence/offence set for various omnipotent powers.I know that users are getting tired with my actions at this point.

But think for yourself isn't it unfair for an admin to abuse his/her powers in this way after all every power has a weakness.

Now,I understand that if I take it up with Kuo alone nothing can be done and discussing with DYBAD is useless.So, I need your and holder's support in this one.If we together talk with Kuo about this then something can be done.Please reply and give me your opinions and if you think that all the above mentioned powers cannot defeat nonexistence then I will leave the matter for good.

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:11, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

Got it SageM.

I'll make it less than or equal than 400.

Also you have a triforce as a avatar picture that's bad. I'm not saying it's stupid looking it's just that there are more powerful things than a triforce. Like the infinity gauntlet.

You really think the triforce can defeat thanos, Lucifer morningstar, or galactus. Triforce is bullshit.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 23:14, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

Also about your dissolution page. The only one out of the three that is omnipotent is the Divine presence. Pralaya and the guy from percy Jackson are not. They are nigh Omnipotent. Plus Lucifer morningstar is stronger than pralaya.

Also I/O makes no fucking sense. A moon that causes terrorism to rise wtf. The game makes no fucking sense and trying to understand it will hurt your Brain a lot. Also the plot makes no sense as well. And why are the characters as with all other visual novel characters so fucking op.

In fact Lucifer Morningstar beats almost everyone in I/O with the exception of the Divine presence because its Omnipotent. So Lucifer has the presence to deal with the Divine presence.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 23:18, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

Also sageM if you have any vs battle ideas or any ideas. Feel free to put them in the comment section of my blog.

I'm saying this because I want some people on my blog because having a blog makes you cool. sound ok.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 23:24, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

Also if you put any vs battles on my blog. Just to let you know that I'm sick of saitama. He is so overrated. Do you really think he can kill anything with just physical force. I mean galactus can easily kill saitama, accelerator can manipulate his vectors to just redirect saitama away from him, and shiki ryougi can just cut the lines and kill him.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 23:31, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

Also if you say pralaya is omnipotent then why is the presence on the omnipotent page.

Also if your omnipotent then you have no worry of pralaya. The presence is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. How can you have two omnipotents in DC.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 23:33, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

By that logic pralaya can beat toaa.

And sageM I created a blog for a reason. So I could vs battles and not be bored. I need to ideas and you could give me vs battle ideas for my blog.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 23:42, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

I'm saying this because I thought you could give me some vs battle ideas because you have experience with them since you do vs battle wiki. And my blog is supposed to be like vs battle wiki just on a smaller scale.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 23:43, August 27, 2018 (UTC)

Just because it is opposite to Absolute Access dose not mean it is absolute as well, if something like DT can be its limitation then AA would easily be a limitation as wellThe Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 22:19, August 30, 2018 (UTC)

Eh, that power seems to be more powerful, far more powerful than what I had in mind, plus, it mainly covers points of views, and is also called Idea Manipulation and Cognition Manipulation, something my power does not cover. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 04:00, September 1, 2018 (UTC)

Lesser version of Absolute Defense? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, September 1, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, September 1, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 19:55, September 1, 2018 (UTC)Okay sage only thing is that all my powers were approved by Kuo.I always take his approval before doing a power.

Nekron2 (talk) 19:56, September 1, 2018 (UTC)Added to the fact azathoth isn't called the mindless/idiot god for no reason and isn't the tagged user of omninescience for no reason.

Nekron2 (talk) 20:08, September 1, 2018 (UTC)You don't need knowledge of a power to use it many fictional omninescience users use different powers without any knowledge and users of ignorant limitation transcendence actually transcend limitations by being ignorant so your statements make no sense.

Argue it out between yourselves on Talk or Comments, not on my page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:35, September 1, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 04:06, September 2, 2018 (UTC)Someone cannot use their power doesn't mean they can't have that power.Azathoth remains sleeping maximum of the time so,he can't use his ultipotence then he is not should not be ultipotent by any means. As I said ignorant limitation transcends limitations by sheer ignorance so this power works like that too.

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:38, September 3, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 19:09, September 3, 2018 (UTC)Do you think absolute wish can grant you ultipotence. For example if a person wishes for ultipotence from shenron will he become ultipotent or would he remain simple nigh-omnipotent?

Your right but didn't eating those souls and Schrodinger's soul bestow him omnipresence.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 18:39, September 4, 2018 (UTC)

What about an omniscient being. Wouldn't a omniscient being know how to beat a user of meta power reflection. Also if universal irreversibility is not a limitation to meta power reflection then why doesn't universal irreversibility have meta power reflection as a limitation.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 02:09, September 6, 2018 (UTC)

Magneto
In the X-Men movie universe, Magneto's full name was never stated to be "Max Eisenhardt". Instead, everyone called him Erik, or Erik Lensherr. You can see this page: [//marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Erik_Lehnsherr_(Earth-10005) https://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Erik_Lehnsherr_(Earth-10005)] if you don't beleive me. -Vozhan 01:09, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

Dude, in the COMICS his name is Max. You guys used a gif from the movie, so I think it would be best to use the name that was used in the movies. It was never mentioned whether it was Max in the movies or not. You have to realize, the movies and comics are different things. Just because they were both made by Marvel doesn't mean they're both the exact same. There are differences, and in the MOVIES Magneto's real name is Erik Lensherr. However, I will heed to your request and leave it be. This message is just meant to inform you that Movies and Comics are different. -Vozhan 01:38, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

The only thing he's known to have been damaged/penetrated by is Wolverine's adamantium claws (the strongest/hardest known material in the Marvel universe after Cap's shield). In addition, his body has been described as being nigh-impenetrable.
 * See here: The Thing

22:16, September 9, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:37, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

We don't have something like that already? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:15, September 10, 2018 (UTC)

Power Idea
Greetings. Hope you are well. Just wanted to let you know - Speed Defense. It's already here. Sorry. Kusarigama (talk) 09:57, September 11, 2018 (UTC)

Say, Sage, is there a power like Reality Inducement? It is the ability to make things real, from statues, to paintings to replicas to conceptual things to representations, such as making a water wave on the wall that is a painting that is "supposedly" coming out of the wall (but isn't) turn into real water and come out of the wall as it is now real. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:42, September 11, 2018 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:09, September 12, 2018 (UTC)

You could argue same about Heart Rip for example. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:12, September 12, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:20, September 13, 2018 (UTC)

Ouroborus
How is a snake living forever by cycling the matter in its body totally inconceiveable? Also, your talk page is rather long. Maybe try moving some of the contents to a subpage? Opdagon (talk) 15:03, September 14, 2018 (UTC)

Instant Effect - don't we have something like this? I have some vague memories... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:22, September 15, 2018 (UTC)

Are you talking about Hunson abadeer from adventure time.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 20:45, September 15, 2018 (UTC)

talk page should be cleaned
SageM your talk page is huge. You should follow kuopiofi and me and get rid of most of it as your talk page is as cluttered as a teenagers bedroom.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 20:47, September 15, 2018 (UTC)

And none of the existing vampire powers doesn't cover that? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:50, September 15, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:10, September 15, 2018 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:33, September 17, 2018 (UTC)

Except that even Amortals are not beyond life, they are just....not alive in a conventional sense. The power says that "Anything that can even remotely or loosely be defined as being alive/living can be affected" and users of Life and Death Transcendence are exactly the opposite, they CANNOT be even remotely or lossely be defined as alive/living in any way, shape or form. So it isn't a "may be", it is a "are" immune. Tsubasa16 (talk) 23:41, September 18, 2018 (UTC)

"and remember that AA doesn't have limitations, which means that your point is considered to be invalid and thus the power stays as is."

And? ALM is not AA. AA is literally to be the Author of the verse, ALM is literally just controlling all that can be considered alive, they are VERY different powers, you're literally saying that since AA has no limitations, then any sub-power of it shouldn't have, which is literally not true at all.

My point is not invalid, at all, you're saying that because one power is part of another one, then that power has all the same traits as the "source power". But yeah, i won't argue with you about that anyway cause i know the answer won't change, if anything i will ask to Kuo about that later. Tsubasa16 (talk) 00:12, September 19, 2018 (UTC)

SageM do you have to ruin my parade every single fucking time.

I see you almost on every power, comment, or something that I made.

To me your like that pesky mosquito that keeps on trying to bug me and I am the person that's trying to swat you away.

Holder of true Omnipotence was right. You are sometimes actually almost always annoying.

And I was saying fiction destruction as a sub-power of fiction manipulation. As if you can create fiction you can destroy it as well.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 21:13, September 19, 2018 (UTC)

Are you saying your some sort of tri force mentor to me. Like your actually just trying to help me.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 21:20, September 19, 2018 (UTC)

That's like saying Avatar-series elemental bendings are different than other Elemental Manipulations. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, September 20, 2018 (UTC)

Again, sorry - Platinumfist(7

Ailment Prediction - first section gets too close to Medical Intuition and name could be better, but doable.

I may be bit fuzzy from pain killers, but the second idea makes no sense to me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:23, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Isn't that basically limited Invisible Speed? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:49, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Doable, tho you need some clever wording if it works on both living/organic and unliving/inorganic targets. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:12, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Uhm, i'd appreciate if you stopped answering for other people, i asked DYBAD, not you, so don't do that again. Also it's really a genuine question, Absolute Restoration is stated on it's page to work the same way Nonexistence does but the Opposite, and if you even actually READ what i asked, i even made the point to say it would be a ""Limitation"" because it DOES NOT protect or defend against against the power, which is the exact essence of Nonexistence, but it can restore what the power erased, that's simply it. Tsubasa16 (talk) 20:41, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

I assume you didn't actually read what i said, then. The "So no exception at all by its very essence. If it has any, the power simply isn't Nonexistence is about the fact that NOTHING NOR ANYTHING can be immune or defend against it, that's what the "exception" means, Absolute Restoration simply can restore what it erased, that why i made sure to say "Limitation", if anything, it's more of a "Trivia" than an actual Limitation, since it does not "affect" or "Limit the power's essence in any way. That's my point, i am not saying AB is an "exception" to the power, it's literally just a "It can restore what it erased, but it cannot stop it from erasing". Tsubasa16 (talk) 21:00, September 21, 2018 (UTC)

Iatneh 10:09, September 22, 2018 (UTC) is it ok to talk outside of power related in commnet sections ?

Different powers created by me
Nekron2 (talk) 12:43, September 22, 2018 (UTC)Well, in comments you said I wanted a defense against all omnipotent powers. Remind me when did I tried to create a defense for absolute wish, absolute embodiment, conceptual lordship, definition manipulation,etc?

In this wikia as Omnilock had loopholes so, I tried to create a perfect version of it which I created- Reader Embodiment

Also, I wanted oppsites of few powers and which I created

1)Omninepotence- opposite of omnipotence 2)Absolute Unreachability- opposite of absolute access 3)Omni-Existence Anchoring- opposite of nonexistence.

And this was the list of my powers, I tried to create no other power. Also, the only omnipotent powers to which I tried to create a defense against is nonexistence and it's variation and nothing else as I never truly thought it was on that level. So, your argument that I want to create a defense for all omnipotent powers remains false.

We don't have anything that covers Technological Fusion? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:08, September 22, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, that's unfortunate, specially since i know a user whose Curse cannot be lifted or removed by anything, even things specifically meant to remove "any curse" cannot remove it.

Btw, do we have any power to "Break anything apart"? as in divide or separate anything. I thought about Separation, but the problem is that in that case it needs to specifically to be an "Permanet separation". I asked Kuo and he said that he thinks there is one similar power with an Fairty Tail char as the main pic. Tsubasa16 (talk) 00:51, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, i had not saw it before, less work for me i guess.

Also i tihnk it wouldn't fit Disassembly either, cause the "Break anything apart" power is not really "separate things into multiple pieces", it can also be used on non-physical things, it is pretty much "separate anything from anything else" (except the specific Curse i mentioned earlier)Tsubasa16 (talk) 00:59, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

I'm aware, apparently you need to spell it really clearly what you mean to Pokemonfan.

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 11:15, September 23, 2018 (UTC)No one is distorting the page the edit would mean that even Nonexistence itself isn't immune to the power which is a strength and not a limitation and if you care to read the comments section you will find that in one conversation he replied to someone that Erasure itself can be erased bringing the Target back.

Does plot Erasure count as a power for Altair.

Go ahead, tho the name might use some tweaking. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:40, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Is Stage Manipulation really "fit" as an "Omnipotent Power" tho? it is literally just manipulate reality like a play on a stage, barely any different from Reality Warping. Tsubasa16 (talk) 01:40, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Also i had removed "Omnipotent Power" from Boundless Influence because the power itself mentions the user doesn't actually rule or be in charge of anything, and just influence things to do things for them Tsubasa16 (talk) 01:42, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Well, Meta Summoning is not an omnipotent power tho? and well, gaining favors from the Author or Supreme Being is not the same being the one doing the favours, and rather they just influence them to do it for them, so i just assumed that it wouldn't be count as an Omnipotent power since it isn't the users themselves doing those it, but well Tsubasa16 (talk) 02:00, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

My last message actually was about Boundless Influence, not Stage Manipulation. Tsubasa16 (talk) 02:10, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Oh? well, thanks then cause it does make it clearer about Stage Manipulation. Tsubasa16 (talk) 02:15, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Depending how you look at it, Vocifery gets pretty close. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:35, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Dang it sageM theres literally nothing original. I try to come up with something new and now I find myself exhausted. I don't spend as much time on fiction as all of you guys do. What's the point now there's literally no big shiny powers I can come up with.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 21:12, September 25, 2018 (UTC)

Ok why do you keep removing what I add The clones troopers from star wars fit the in "accelerated aging" because as I said THEY AGE AT TWICE THE RATE OF A NORMAL HUMAN, can i just add something to this wiki without people like you constantly removing them because even if all I'm doing is changing something as small as a GRAMMER ERROR someone comes on a changes it back and makes the sentance stupid grammer wise so can I do something on this "PUBLIC" wiki please?Wrathfullegion (talk) 23:12, September 25, 2018 (UTC)Wrathfullegion

If you're talking about, it works fine/smooth for me and 540 × 300 is hardly too small.

You sure it isn't your computer/link? --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:38, September 26, 2018 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:25, September 27, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:15, September 28, 2018 (UTC)

Say, Sage, do we have a power like Defunctness Manipulation? It is the ability to manipulate what is defunct or obsolete, like old technology, beliefs, theories, tools and so on.

Also, do we have something like Latitude & Longitude Manipulate, which can manipulate latitude and longitude of a planet, and thus the length of day and night of a planet, like getting closer to the north pole would make it so that the days are longer and getting close to the equator would make the day shorter. It also would affect time zones. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:42, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:23, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Did you get my last message about Defunctness Manipulation and Latitude & Longitude Manipulation? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 13:15, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

sageM count Vlad just checked and proved pralaya is an aspect of the presence just like the great evil beast.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 20:17, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:31, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Wait a minute if you say pralaya predates the presence.

Doesn't that disprove that the presence is Omnipotent.

If pralaya can absorb the presence then that makes him not Omnipotent.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 20:47, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Basically sageM im saying if the presence can't beat pralaya that just proves he is not all powerful.

If there is one thing you can't beat that proves you are not Omnipotent.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 21:01, September 30, 2018 (UTC)q

Also check out my Plot Erasure superpower.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 21:02, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

how did I even got into all of this again?

last time I checked, paralya was supposed to be something similar to the great evil beast, a form of great darkness existed before everything, that would eventually absorb everything into herself.

since she claim to be able to even absorb parts of the presence, then that is somewhat fair to assume that she would be part of him, just as the great evil beast, the remarkably similar other great personification of all of darkness in DC.

if you have counter arguments, go ahead, though I think I did enough here, leave me out of your argument, ok?

Count Vlad III dracula (talk) 21:09, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you on this, but I would really like an answer, just to make sure. Let me ask the question again.

Do we have a power like Defunctness Manipulation? It is the ability to manipulate what is defunct or obsolete, like old technology, beliefs, theories, tools and so on.

Also, do we have something like Latitude & Longitude Manipulate, which can manipulate latitude and longitude of a planet, and thus the length of day and night of a planet, like getting closer to the north pole would make it so that the days are longer and getting close to the equator would make the day shorter. It also would affect time zones. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:26, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, especially on Latitude & Longitude Manipulation. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:42, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:07, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

Except.. They don't, and that's why we have Science Ascendancy and Science Transcendence. A power isn't purely based off it's name, as Science Transcendence is clearly stated to be more alike to a 'divine science' versus being a deity-like being through ascending science. The same applies to Magic Ascendancy and Magic Transcendence, something that clearly even Imouto, an admin, agrees on as well. Omuni (talk) 23:26, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

Exactly! And like I've said before, Magic Transcendence is essentially the magical version OF casuality manipulation/rule transcendence specifically towards the magic system. It wouldn't/doesn't fit as the opposite of science ascendancy which is moreso becoming a supreme-like deity through ascending beyond science. Omuni (talk) 23:33, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

—————Insects have blood.—————Gltichee123z

Well Hemolymph is basically insect blood, so....-Gltichee


 * Hemolymph is the insect equivalent of blood.

So insects actually DO have a form of blood. ––––Glitchee123z

* Okay, so insects don’t actually have blood. Sorry for my confusion. But can I at LEAST put in that insects actually have Hemolymph? So another user like me won’t get confused, and want to edit Bloodlessness out?

Besides, don’t other arthropods have blood?—-Glitchee

* Wait, scratch that. I checked it out, all arthropods don’t have blood.

Glitchee

Y u put candidate for deletition I mean what's wrong with it

Sklitsklatsklot (talk) 03:44, October 2, 2018 (UTC)

All of which were already pointed out by me to P, so bit late with that list. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:19, October 2, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:57, October 2, 2018 (UTC)

Have fun with both. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:43, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

Good point ^ ^ The user is unique but exists in most if not all realities at once (not all have an official omnipotent, but the user is likely to still be around one way or another).

As CrabHermit suggested, a unifying Singularity extending to all incarnations seems more accurate.

DYBAD (talk) 22:10, October 3, 2018 (UTC)

Can you explain how Jotaro doesn't draw strength from being calm? - Platiinumfist(7

Thank You - Platinum(7

"The" doesn't make it multiple, Users does. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:39, October 4, 2018 (UTC)

Well Does The Thriller has Fear Inducement LastnTime I Checked he Did So...?Vip 8 (talk) 05:36, October 6, 2018 (UTC)Vip 8

I kind of know what I'm doing with the problem is there's no boxes that's in the template after row ten I'll send a screenshotVip 8 (talk) 05:56, October 6, 2018 (UTC)Vip 8



Yeah but reality consumption has weakness.

Im talking about consuming everything.

My omni absorption has no weaknesses why. Because pralaya can't be stopped. If she can absorb even the presence what's going to stop here.

Hunger from marvel has weaknesses. Thanos was able to beat him.

Basically pralaya absorbs everything not through consumption but by dissolution.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 20:55, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah but users of reality consumption can't affect omnilocks.

This power literally means you can consume even omnilocks.

Why because dissolution sageM. Dissolution.

Pralaya is practically Omnipotent.

She doesn't have any of the limitations those users of reality consumption have.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 21:08, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

sageM. You know what I'll make it

I don't care if they put limitations.

As long as I have a new power im happy.

HAVE A NICE OCTOBER.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 21:17, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Just tell kuopiofi to let me make it.

I honestly don't care.

Im doing this sageM not just because I want a new power.

But because I want to create a new Omnipotent power.

Im doing this because I wanna create a power that will give me a lot of comments and fame and all that.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 21:27, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Also what's the point of making powers like bread Generation and everything.

I wanna create an op power

And now i finally get the chance to make an Omnipotent power.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 21:29, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Okay sageM. Im impatient sometimes okay.

Do we have any grudges with each other.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 00:53, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

So why not remove them from the pages instead of asking deletion? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:33, October 7, 2018 (UTC)

I changed the Trivia as well,  because it's incorrect. Also, my version of Capabilities is better worded.

If you have a problem, discuss it.

ShadowMonarch212 (talk) 03:19, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

That is a stealing power. This is a power that doesn't steal titles, purposes and so on. It just makes them be able to have/use them as well as those who are the only ones who can use them. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 04:17, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:51, October 8, 2018 (UTC)

Users and Pages
What up. I want to let you know that Harly Quinn, and few others do not possess Enhanced Durability. They are non-enhanced humans who eventually are at the peak athlete level.(KungFuChinaHong (talk)) Also, Peak Human Stamina is up to 1 hour.(KungFuChinaHong (talk) 22:19, October 12, 2018 (UTC))

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page.

Enhanced Durability and Peak Human Stamina are locked until you talk it out. Tell me when it's done --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

No interest about Omniscientic/Omnipresent beings? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:24, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

It's sub-power of Omniarch which is on the main main-list instead of examples. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:56, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

Enhanced Durability page
SageM. I need to tell you something. I gave you proof evidence to why MVP don't belong in Enhanced Durability page. You failed to understand, and it is very simple. The guy possess ordinary durability and you and Aquen put him in Enahnced Durability which he do not possesses.(KungFuChinaHong (talk) 14:30, October 13, 2018 (UTC))

Locked pages
Hi there, SageM. If a user is not enhancee they will never be in the EC page unless their is enough evidence to say they are enhanced.(KungFuChinaHong (talk) 19:10, October 13, 2018 (UTC))

Nekron2 (talk) 20:14, October 13, 2018 (UTC)About meta power reflection let us see what is the reply of Kuopiofi and DYBAD.

Would that affect Nigh Omnipresence as well? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:24, October 14, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:01, October 14, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 05:03, October 14, 2018 (UTC) If you happen to forget DYBAD said that Nonexistence is like omnipotence and an explicit limitation to everything that includes your power so,there no need to add it to limitation. So, the point doesn't stand.

Nekron2 (talk) 05:28, October 14, 2018 (UTC) You have posted so, many replies on my talk page but did you even once bother to seee what was DYBAD's reply on this matter? This is his reply-

"Nonexistence is like Omnipotence, it's an implicit limitation to most other abilities, as such there is no need to mention it everywhere.

DYBAD (talk) 01:19, October 14, 2018 (UTC)"

So, you mean to say DYBAD is wrong. He is not removing the capabilities as there are tons of misinformation on other pages so, he is keeping the core power perfect. So, DYBAD did state that this power cannot beat nonexistence as if this power can then meta power immunity can too be immune to nonexistence as there is no information that descreator can even harm Empty HAnd.

Nekron2 (talk) 05:44, October 14, 2018 (UTC)Well, this is not about who cares but rather about conflicting information on different pages.

Besides if you probably have forgotten I was the one who was saying that powers like these were limitations to nonexistence. I have no interest in adding nonexistence to each power but the problem is that filling the wikia with conflicting information is not right.

You and I both have posted our views on his talk page, so wait for his reply.

Nekron2 (talk) 06:05, October 14, 2018 (UTC) Doesn't matter if you ignore my reply as except for polluting my tslk page they aren't doing anything. Personal bias is strong with you so, I am bound to get a stupid reply from you, i called on DYBAD, so, I'll wait until he arrives so, no need for you to pollute my comments section just drop it. I will discuss with admins.

Nekron2 (talk) 06:17, October 14, 2018 (UTC) Also, this is my last message ignore it or do whatever you want to do-

"6. Do not change the content of a existing page for your benefit. What I mean is don't change it of how you see it has because opinions will clash and it will disclosed to a argument.
 * 6a. This means especially NO deleting the page contents just because you don't agree with it.
 * 6b. While chancing existing page to extend, keep the basic idea in mind. Chancing/expanding the concept beyond the point the basic concept isn't there goes definitely too far. If you want to hold on the idea, make a new power.
 * 6c. Some powers may share name with powers from outside forces, before you start to change existing power check how it's defined/described on the page. How the power is defined here trumps outside sources."
 * This is the rule so, the creator nonsense which you have been spammining repeatedly I don't find anywhere. This wikia is free to edit and the rule of FANDOM itself states that the opinion of founder of wikia doen't hold more gravity than a normal user. So, enough of your bullshit.
 * This is the rule so, the creator nonsense which you have been spammining repeatedly I don't find anywhere. This wikia is free to edit and the rule of FANDOM itself states that the opinion of founder of wikia doen't hold more gravity than a normal user. So, enough of your bullshit.

Nekron2 (talk) 11:37, October 14, 2018 (UTC) So, you say that meta power reflection can counter everything so, a user of absolute buying will get affected by their own power if they use their power against such abeing.

Nekron2 (talk) 12:08, October 14, 2018 (UTC)Can you please tell me what will happen if a user of Meta Power Reflection use their own power aginst themselves?

Say, Sage, I proposed a power called Absolute Bypassing to Kuo, which bypasses absolute powers except for powerful enough ones such as Omnipotence. Do you have anything against this idea, because something tells me there is something logically wrong with this power. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:16, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

Nekron2 (talk) 01:33, October 15, 2018 (UTC) Well, I didn't do anything on the meta power reflection page. Actually, I kinda knew what would happen which is the reason I let DYBAD step in and did nothing myself.

Nekron2 (talk) 09:32, October 15, 2018 (UTC) Want to know what facts say about meta power reflection? This is DYBAD'S reply on his talk page- "Please don't start with the sophistry. The NE user simply has to want something gone, and it is. The "clearly identified" part is simply here to prevent/minimize collateral damage, which is explicitly mentioned in this same limitation.

If the NE user wants MPR to cease to exist, it does. If he wants the MPR user to cease to exist, it does. There is no parade or counter or dodge or anything. Just like with Omnipotence, the answer is always "yes", only with a more limited field and twice the weight."

So, even your case by case theory isn't correct and will not work so, drop it already and do something else with your time.Nekron2 (talk) 09:32, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

Doable, check also qlippoth. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:45, October 15, 2018 (UTC)

Don't we have that already? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:22, October 16, 2018 (UTC)

Got here a bit late, but...

Your Primordial Reality Manipulation power is a sub-power of Alpha Reality, is it? Apocalyptic Reality Manipulation could be the same thing, only that it would be a sub-power of Omega Reality. And if I read your power description right, Primordial Reality Manipulation works on a single reality at a time, unlike Omega Reality, which deals with more than one reality. So I don't see how Apocalyptic Reality Manipulation really IS Omega Reality. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:16, October 17, 2018 (UTC)

And is there anything wrong with a power that is also called Post-Existence Manipulation? I still don't see what is wrong with the idea of it being a sub power of Omega Reality. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:44, October 17, 2018 (UTC)

The changes i was making are valid aren't just my idea, Artemis isn't the goddess of disease and isn't related, Ares and Athena wouldn't have divine combat, they are gods of war sure but Divine combat implies they can also kill other gods and such to which, they can't, Zeus, Poseidon and Hades are all known to be more powerful. and with the helm of darkness i don't believe so, the powers are listed to what the gods would have and the helm's power is an external power that Hades himself does not have. Demeter is in no way related to life or death, she is the goddess of agriculture and of the earth, you, yourself are going off of your own ideas here.DrakeFang10(Talk )

Demeter's controlling of season's and such is considered death manipulation? that doesn't sound right to me, she can control the seasons and things sure, she can either give life and plentifulness or death and ect. i get that, i do but that would fall under those powers or i'm decently sure at least, she can cause mass hunger and famine but she can't just will someone to live or die, her power is what does it, with Hades i don't believe the Unseen one became a title of his until later and also if your doing that with Hades helm of darkness what about Zeus's master bolt? it was a forged weapon, the first lightning bolt and thus lightning is artifical, a creation of the gods, not a natural force and would be classed as a weapon

and i'll also say that Artemis, goddess of the hunt, wilderness, the mood, maidenhood, childbirth and such isn't a goddess of disease, i don't think she'd be able to control it. Apollo her brother as a contrast is the god of diseases and does control them with his plague arrows but still, i believe that's Artemis's only connection to disease and plague

sorry, i forgot to sign my messages earlier, i'm still learning to do that. but i don't think Ares would have that, look in the mythos, he, himself lost a number of times to mortals and gods alike.Drakefang10 (Talk )

of nature and thus wouldn't that be under nature manipulation? she's the goddess of the earth, like her grandmother Gaia, the literal eath under your feet, the extinction of all life on earth through crops being gone, all lakes drying up and such, she wasn't related to life and death, she was connected to nature and through it could cause the apocalypse, the end of all things not truly immortal.Drakefang10(Talk )

And?...
Logic is against you on this one buddy boy not undoing the edits and will speak to Kuo about it :) Imouto 01:44, October 18, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

and also going back to divine combat, divine slayer and omnislayer are applications of it, which is why i said something in the first place, even then Ares and Athena while being gods of war aren't that exceptional fighters compared to the other gods, as i said previously Ares himself lost to mortals and gods.

that's the thing though, Demeter isn't a goddess of life and or of death, her powers span over things that could cause life or death, you don't say that Hades having the ability to release a soul from the underworld (Orpheus) or Persephone for that matter (Sisyphus)m as life inducement do you? Drakefang10(Talk ) 12:17 pm, Australia time

Honestly sorry for waiting your time but this feels like it'd be a more appropriate power for Ares and Athena, both of them may be gods of war but weren't known for fighting

https://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Combat_Specialist

Drakefang10 (talk )

or rather, Ares at least wasn't known for winning them Drakefang10

Nothing comes to mind, but you might want to check Category:Weapon Powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:37, October 18, 2018 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:09, October 18, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:37, October 18, 2018 (UTC)

Well, thanks for the tip, at least. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:49, October 18, 2018 (UTC)

If you dont mind i was just making some contributions to the Strength infinitum page

Garlington41 (talk) 00:02, October 19, 2018 (UTC)Garlington41

Regardless of Known users. Stop changing my info and capabilities edit i'm just trying to amek sure people fully grasp the concept of this ability. I can't gurantee all of the known users but m,ost of them are powerful beings or at least the potentiall to match and surpass powerful beings.I'm just listing down the full capabilities and i didn't feel like Issei, fit those capabilities. I'll stop removing him from the page for now. But you shouldnt stop me from listing the full capabilities of this power which is entirely true.Garlington41 (talk) 00:25, October 19, 2018 (UTC) Garlington41

the potential to surpass the strongest beings is Absolute Strength. Users of absolute strength are pretty much considered to be the strongest beings the only thing above them is gods and omnipotent beings. Strength Infinitum is the power to get stronger with any limit if users of this power can't potentially match or surpass powerful being then this page needs to be close because it lacks consistence. Superman, Goku, Vegeta, and Hulk have all surpassed or matched powerful godlike beings.Garlington41 (talk) 00:38, October 19, 2018 (UTC)Garlington41

Fundamental Force Negation - doable.

Fiction-Reality Reversal - don't we have something like this? I think I've seen something similar. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

I removed them simply because i asked Imouto earlier if they should be removed and she agreeded so. Tsubasa16 (talk) 23:28, October 19, 2018 (UTC)

re: quotation
CarverSindile (talk) 05:08, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

In high school English class, I was taught that punctuation marks go inside quotation marks.

Every time I watch a movie, TV show, anime, YouTube video that has either closed captions or subtitles, I see punctuation marks inside the quotation marks.

Every time I read a book, I see punctuation marks are inside the quotation marks.

CarverSindile (talk) 05:08, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

re: quotation
CarverSindile (talk) 06:42, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

So, if I understand this you're basically saying I can no longer edit on this wikia.

CarverSindile (talk) 06:42, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

re: quotation
CarverSindile (talk) 07:05, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I do know that you never said I couldn't edit but you inadvertently did. Because the only edits I could do in this wikia are quotations marks they are literally no other edits I can do, I can't remove extra spaces because I don't see them and I can't edit words. That's why you see me doing quotations mark edits because I literally don't see any other edits I can do on this wikia.

CarverSindile (talk) 07:05, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

Say, Sage, do we have a power like Altered Interaction? Basically, it is the ability to interact with things differently than others. Like walking on a trampoline as if it were a rigid, non bouncy surface, and hitting a pillow and instead of sensing it as soft, it is hard as a brick wall, all to the user and no one else. It is not Altered Physics because the user still has the same physics as everyone else. Do we have a power like that? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:40, October 27, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you, but did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:43, October 27, 2018 (UTC)

Aside of commenting to me, have you told that to others? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:22, October 30, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:03, October 30, 2018 (UTC)

Isn't that just Eternal Rest Inducement with self only? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:16, October 31, 2018 (UTC)

I would to apologize for the sloppy job work I've done, I was rushing through :/ - PlatinumFist(7

Meta Army Manipulation - Go ahead.

Self-Army Creation - what does make this different from Replication? Don't see even a hint of that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:22, November 3, 2018 (UTC)

Replication "replicate oneself, others and/or objects", not a word about how that happens. Those are details dealt in Variations.

In other words, that didn't explain any difference to R, just defined Variation at best. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:55, November 3, 2018 (UTC)

If it can negate the Infinite Power of the Holy Right then it technically counts, and even then Touma was said to have something else that dwarfs even the imagine breaker and can negate things that EVEN the imagine breaker cannot meaning that one way or another Touma is a user.The Holder Of True Omnipotence (talk) 22:12, November 3, 2018 (UTC)

Neutral/Neutrality Immunity - Considering that every power that isn't specifically good/evil is neutral (in other words, pretty much all of them), that's just Nigh Invulnerability that doesn't work against those two.

Magi/Mystic-Lock - clunky name, usable idea. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:41, November 5, 2018 (UTC)

You talk about quality but do you bother uploading anything that actually shows the power? That's the best example I could find and it represents the technique - PlatinumFist(7

And you shouldn't lecture people when you're satisfied with lackluster edits and low-quality pictures but I'll try in the future to follow your great example  - PlatinumFist(7

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:36, November 5, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:31, November 6, 2018 (UTC)

Other doable, Unrecoverability is pretty pointless.

Alternate/Parallel Arsenal/Legion - Alternate-Self Manipulation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, November 7, 2018 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:39, November 7, 2018 (UTC)

Boop. Not sure why you undid my edit to Almighty Magic, but I might as well beat you to the punch when it comes to leaving a message on the talk page! My reasoning (which I discussed a tad w/ Imouto in the past) is given almighty magic is essentially omnipotence focused into magic, it would make sense for the user to have >lordship< over magic, and the capability to edit what/who it comes from. Omuni (talk) 22:28, November 7, 2018 (UTC)

Doable.

Already unlocked. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:24, November 8, 2018 (UTC)

Well, at least you two didn't start the Edit/undo cycle this time. Do I dare to hope you've actually talked things over so there won't be one when MC unlocks tomorrow? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:57, November 8, 2018 (UTC)

Explanation
Look, I'm seriously not trying to be annoying with my edits here, but I have a good reason as to why I'm changing them. Fullmetal Alchemist has always had Fullmetal as a single word in the title, Yu Yu isn't a single word with Yu Yu Hakusho, and Shadow of Mordor does not have an s in the title, plus Middle-earth is part of the official title. I'd also argue that putting Aule under Silmarillion rather than just listing the author's name makes more sense but whatever, I seriously don't want to get into some dumb argument here. Furthermore, you undoing my edits is resulting in Brok and Sindri's names not being capitalized and a weird spacing issue with Dyntos in the gallery. So even if you disagree with all my points please change that back at the very least. (WarmasterAndroris (talk) 04:02, November 9, 2018 (UTC))

Considering that it's on quite a few physiologies/mimicries already, you volunteering to go through them all? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:11, November 9, 2018 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:30, November 10, 2018 (UTC)

Doable, but needs really good description and preferably gif pic... --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:37, November 10, 2018 (UTC)

Say, SageM, about Multi-Directional Movement, does the user move at the same speed when moving in multiple directions or can they move at different speeds when doing so? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:25, November 11, 2018 (UTC)

I see. Another thing, does the user, well, um...move from multiple directions/angles from the position they are in when they are standing or moving (like if the user moves in one direction, like forward, "another" version of the user goes the opposite or perpenducular (backwards, up, down, left right) direction) or is it something else? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:36, November 11, 2018 (UTC)

So the user can't just, say, dash into multiple directions from a standstill? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:43, November 11, 2018 (UTC)

Ah, I get it, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:51, November 11, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, one more thing: Can the user move at slower speeds while doing Multi-Directional Movement, or does it have to be fast? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:55, November 11, 2018 (UTC)

Did you get my last message about the slower speeds thing? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:21, November 12, 2018 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:24, November 12, 2018 (UTC)

About Ayin and Ultimate Erasure
Hello, Sage, how's it going? Answer me some things about the  Ultimate Erasure 

1. You told me that Ayin is defined as Nothing so Absolute that all forms of characters, descriptions and words would lose meaning. Even the silence would lose its meaning. But why is it so defined?

2. How is true nothingness all-encompassed if it literally and absolutely does not exist?

3. If it is all-encompassing and covers all aspects, forms .... etc of nothing / nonexistence. How? Because? Vitorriq (talk) 15:40, November 14, 2018 (UTC)

Smol question/suggestions for Movement Transcendence:

Given multiple powers it has to grant Unrestricted Movement, wouldn't it make Unrestricted movement an application and less so a variation? (Considering some of its other powers basically granted other similar powers it has already listed in its applications, it wouldn't be bad either to simply state it.)

On top of that, I believe the power would actually more closely be a variation or a lesser form of Omnipresence. This power focuses on its capability to move/travel anywhere while omnipresence is focused on being anywhere/everywhere/nowhere at once. It seems more like a lesser variation of Omnipresence given the base capability of both powers, but that's just a small suggestion possibility.

And finally, why does it have Spatial-Temporal Transcendence? While the power does focus on being capable of moving anywhere/ travelling anywhere, assuming it can move/travel beyond or above space/time, I believe this would be more closely related to becoming spatial-temporal lock as you inherently are travelling/moving beyond space/time and not just inherently being beyond the concept. This also players onto the other question I had which is why does it still have the limitation of travel negation? If the user can essentially meta-teleport and likely has spatial-temporal lock, they would be leagues beyond the capability and power of travel negation to stop them (basing it off both capabilities, applications and the current limitations travel negation has).

Reply to me on this when you can, as it could improve aspects of the page~ Omuni (talk) 18:51, November 14, 2018 (UTC)

Hmm? When I said unrestricted movement and mentioned sub-power, I didn't mean Movement transcendence would be classified as a sub-power of unrestricted movement, I meant it the other way around. The unrestricted movement would become a sub-power and application of Movement transcendence (as some of the powers movement transcendence has already had that power as an application.) And while yes the user transcends physical/non-physical, spiritual, and abstract levels of movement, so they can move beyond and outside of space-time, simply by moving it goes back to what I was saying. It would fit better as spatial-temporal lock then spatial-temporal transcendence as that would imply the user is inherently beyond the very concept and definition of space & time. The user can enter a state similar to it by moving, which would be spatial-temporal lock. It would make far more sense in that regard and the power itself (movement transcendent) being a variation of Omnipresence would seem far better than a variation of unrestricted movement which the power essentially has. Omuni (talk) 19:11, November 14, 2018 (UTC)

Ah, alrighty. Thanks for your time then and hope you're having a beautiful day :D Omuni (talk) 19:39, November 14, 2018 (UTC)

Trans-universal Being/Transversal Physiology - just call it cosmic size or something. Bit pointless really but whatever.

2) what would it would be called and what the practical differences aside fluff in Capabilities would be?

Meta/Omni Tracking Evasion - Imperceptibility

Unconscious Power - doable. Unconscious Mobility doens't cover power-use. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, November 15, 2018 (UTC)

Meta Power Manipulation
Probably you forgot that not only Omnilock is an Omnipotent power which may be resistan/immune to Meta Power Maanipulation. And in response to your resoning "which part of manipulating all powers you didn't get" I'll say that which part of immunity to all powers you didn't get( Meta Power Immunity - an application of Omnilock)?

So, Omnilock should be placed as a "may" limitation to MPM as not only it is an Omnipotent power but also it has Meta Power Immunity as an application which is extremely resistant to Meta Power Manipulatin. So, don't remove the limitation, it is just a "may" limitation.Nekron2 (talk) 09:18, November 15, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I will change that right away. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:17, November 16, 2018 (UTC)

Hi, well i see you changed my edit in absolute combat but let me explin why that's wrong. You see, mastery combat it's not just about martial arts, there is no a defined way of combat in tha world, you see military training, warrior training and martial arts training aren't the same thing and having absolute combat goes for having an extremely high amount of combat skill, which not necessarily needs to be through martial arts, martial arts are just a way of fighting and improve your combat skills, but there's a lot of way to train and improve combat on your own or with special training. So, i'm gonna edit it again and i ask you please let it how it is, if you feel i'm wrong then, you can edit it again and we can talk about it and even ask other users opinions if you like, i would like to hear your arguments about the theme.

Changing
Hi, how you doing? Well i wanted ask, so if i'm gonna edit something in one page i have to specificaly edit that part i want to edit or do i have to make a disccussion for any change could i have in mind. I recently entered in this site so i ask you to know and not break the rules again.

Meta Resurrection? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:42, November 16, 2018 (UTC)

When you're making a list of new ideas, you can Edit the original message instead of adding new post for every new idea. Or you could wait a bit and collect them into one at once.

Origin/Original Magic - really starting to wonder if allowing the first magical version of power was good idea, deleting them all would take time and effort but might be worth it.

Concept Reversal - don't we already have power that does this?

Cosmic Order Manipulation - doable.

Regeneration Bypassing - covered by existing power. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:32, November 17, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:33, November 17, 2018 (UTC)

We don't have either of those yet? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:29, November 18, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:15, November 18, 2018 (UTC)

I see. Well, I liked the idea of the Transcendent Evolution page... but it does seem unnecessary. Smijes08 (talk) 06:27, November 18, 2018 (UTC)

Another Purely Neutral Character I Believe
I know this sounds crazy but, can Alucard from the Hellsing Series count for the Omnineutrality page? Since I do find him neutral yet kind-hearted at the same time, at least mostly since can be cold-hearted at the same time. ChocolateElemental (talk) 22:16, November 19, 2018 (UTC)

Users of Power Replication/Almighty Replication would only find a blank and "nothing" to replicate. Or worse - reaching out into the abyss may end up with them swallowed by it, and ceasing to exist.

DYBAD (talk) 05:50, November 20, 2018 (UTC)

Doable.

Haven't other self-powers been sub-powers? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:12, November 21, 2018 (UTC)

Sounds more like History/Memory Inducement really. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, November 22, 2018 (UTC)

All right, I understand the fact that you do not want to add she because she already has Complete Arsenal. But your claim that Spec Over transforms Ajimu into just  a god  is wrong. The Spec Over description is 'Become God skill', not  Become a god skill  (this makes a lot of difference by the fact that everyone refers to our creator as  God , not even necessary the pronoun  the ), so your justification is wrong. If you do not want to put she on the page okay (I think), but do not say something that is not true.MinusKing13 (talk) 14:18, November 22, 2018 (UTC)

Multi-Immortality is bit pointless as there's nothing to prevent that already. Others doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:16, November 22, 2018 (UTC)

Didn't DYPAD do basically this few years ago? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:46, November 22, 2018 (UTC)

the minor gods are reffered to as Daimons, embodiments are the personifications of these things correct? Lyssa was the personification of mad rage and frenzy right but that's not madness, that's mindless fury and the inability to come back from rage, more wrathful than anything else. The Maniae are the spirits of madness and such but they do not embody the concept of madness, they are born from it and have power from it, just as some traits from frenzy and mad rage could be described as "mad" but not true madness HadesForBestGod25 (talk)

Well, if there's something like it people will complain about it. Go ahead.

Experience Inducement - details?

Like Affinity or like Channeling? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, November 23, 2018 (UTC)

Bit of meh but doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:57, November 23, 2018 (UTC)

Well, I never said Ajimu was Omnipotent, and if we go by your logic, all fictional characters are subject to the author's will (even the Omnipotent). Ajimu in her base form, is not a Monotheistic Deity, but it happens to become when using Spec Over (so it was said). And before you say that Monotheistic Deities are superior to everything and everyone in their verses and can not be overcome in any way, remember these facts: Amara is God's older sister and even God could not kill her (even Death said he would reap God one day), Haruhi showed great feats of Reality Warp but nothing (as far as I can remember) identifying her TRUE as God (not to mention that even though they compared her to God, they also said that the universe was always there before Haruhi was born, which would make her less qualified than Ajimu), Beyonder Pre-retcon is Marvel's second strongest character (behind only The One Above All) and because of that  second place  he too could not be on the list (just as you said there is nothing above the Monotheistic Deity.) And lastly Chakravartin, who despite being considered a Monotheistic Deity, still lost to Asura.

Anyway, all these are examples that one way or another goes against some points that you pointed out. Now, despite all this, you still do not understand that Ajimu becomes a Monotheistic Deity WHEN SHE USES  Spec Over .

Do you understand now bro? Ajimu is not True Omnipotent and JUST becomes a Monotheistic Deity when using this skill. Not to mention that there are characters on the list who are not True Omnipotent as well as she (since a True Omnipotent has no rivals, superiors or difficulties for him/her in the work).MinusKing13 (talk) 15:14, November 23, 2018 (UTC)

By transformation, do you mean Physiologies/Mimicries as well? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:28, November 24, 2018 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:02, November 24, 2018 (UTC)

Identity Protection
So, I was hoping to create my first power for Powerlisting wikia and wanted to talk to a veteran of the site. The power idea is Identity Protection. The user would have a protected identity. Meaning that they couldn't be influenced by mental manipulation. When the user commited a robbery, their face and personality can't be remembered by those that see them. They just know someone robbed them. The idea of the power is a sort of imprectibility combined with mental manipulation resistance. No users exist, but I have had this idea for a while. Where I'd create a character that is a villain that has this power unless she pulls up the visor protector from her helmet or take off her helmet. When her helmet is fully on, the victim just sees a black void above the neck. The only way of identifying the user is through pheronisics. Like if the user leaves blood or hair behind, then it can be examined via dna. So, the weakness would be dna examination powers. Also, technology that recorded them could identify them.

With this power, the user wouldn't have to have a helmet or not. That's just the feature I'm going to add to my character.

FlashWally22 (talk) 10:02, November 26, 2018 (UTC)FlashWally22

That's just two powers working at once, we have Multi-Power Use for a reason. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:20, November 26, 2018 (UTC)

Why undo my edit on the Superior Adaptation page? I've listed the reasons why it should be added, but you didn't even give me a reason why it should be removed.

--DarkWraths (talk) 23:45, November 27, 2018 (UTC)

Scrap Manipulation - doesn't sound that different from Garbage Manipulation.

Self-Augmentation - doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, November 28, 2018 (UTC)

Wasn't that done quite recently? Either that or I talked about power that would do it only little while ago. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, November 29, 2018 (UTC)

Depends of the verse, but Death of the Endless says that she'll close the place when the universe ends and Azrael from Discworld is pretty much implied to be on that level too. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:56, November 29, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, November 30, 2018 (UTC)

You didn't give me a chance, I wasn't trying to remove it from the applications, I was looking for other negation-related abilities similar to growth negation to add onto the top part of it ^^; Omuni (talk) 01:46, December 2, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:23, December 2, 2018 (UTC)

I think you seem to have something out against me for making changes that were literally approved by higher ups ^^; if you want to discuss it, ask Kirie. But when that power was made it was made with the intentions of it having TT in it. Thank you and have a wonderful day ^^ --Omuni (talk) 20:46, December 2, 2018 (UTC)

I’m sorry to say that I disagree than, and sadly the only person who can end the discussion is Kirie or Kuo, so message them and let’s not start an edit war now ^^; --Omuni (talk) 20:51, December 2, 2018 (UTC)

I’m not sure who you think you may be talking to, but I’m not your sibling. I wouldn’t lie to you, the power was created by Kirie, me and Holokami. Please don’t falsely accuse others of things. I have no reason to lie. --Omuni (talk) 20:56, December 2, 2018 (UTC)

Reasons for the changes are based on following logical problems with the previous one: Temporal Singularity is sub-power of Temporal Transcendence, thus having TT be sub-power of TS is circular logic. Moved TT to Variations.

Singular Reality Existence is Variation of Singularity, having S under SRE under is just wrong, not to mention S is much broader than SRE. Moved S to Variations.

None of the temporal powers are on Temporal Lock page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:42, December 2, 2018 (UTC)

Hi there Sage. When you are communicating with other users, particularly staff members who are here to help, could you keep your debates/arguments and disagreements civil. I noticed your communication with my friend Omuni wasn't very friendly at all. And this isn't the only complaint I have read. So please, be nice in your debates.

Death horseman94 (talk) 21:57, December 2, 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, Omuni said she meant to say she didnt approve or originally make the edits on her own, but was approved by Imouto to make the changes to the page in question.

Death horseman94 (talk) 22:07, December 2, 2018 (UTC)

Shes not denying editing the page at all, but she means it wasnt purely from her own back, and instead, an admin gave her permission to edit it.

Death horseman94 (talk) 22:11, December 2, 2018 (UTC)

My defense for changing certain names
Nine times out of ten the series titles I do change were already wrong dude and you just change it for seemingly no reason because you haven't stated why I'm wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME. Let's take your recent undoing of my edit on Superior Adaptation for example. How is listing Amazo underneath DC Animate Universe wrong when he only has that power in that specific universe and is listed under that series on fifty other goddamn pages? And even if you do admit that would be wrong, when are you gonna go to all those pages and change it so you don't have the wiki spreading misinformation? How is listing Mark X Sentinels being from X-Men: Days of the Future Past wrong when they debuted and so far have only appeared in that movie? You're basically willing to undo me making legitimate changes like alphabetizing the list and other things just over dumb semantics regarding names, most of which are in fact WRONG, that no one but you care about. How is changing Warhammer 40K, to Warhammer 40,000 wrong when that is LITERALLY the indisputable title of the goddamn game? That being said, if you can list any changes I made regarding series name that are actually wrong and detrimental to the site, I'll admit I was wrong in that case and shut my mouth. So far I can't think of a single case where that happened though. I'm sincerely not trying to make an enemy out of you here, and any changes I make I do because I feel it will improve the site. So please, at they very least don't dismiss everything I say here just because I might annoy you at times with my edits. (JayBaudin (talk) 23:40, December 2, 2018 (UTC))

Okay, I'm just gonna address your response and then I'll drop this whole thing. The reason I change the Japanese title to English is because I see no reason for an English website to do that, especially when the majority of the time most pages list them under the English one anyone. Can't really comment on the Warhammer thing because I don't really argue whether that's wrong or not, but it's pretty obvious that the creators do that just because writing 40,000 would get tedious rather than it being the true title. As for me unintentionally messing up the alphabetization, that's usually a result of me editing pages with a million users and missing a few while trying to fix. I'd also appreciate it if you didn't characterize me as some egomaniac who just makes certain edits because he feels he's some super genius who thinks he knows better than everybody. Cause honestly, a majority of the time, that's the way you come across with the way you act (especially when you don't comment on why you did it). I've genuinely almost given up on this wiki entirely because you've undid things I've done for seemingly no reason. Which you know, I'm sure you don't care about because you probably find my existence to be an annoyance and wish I were gone, but still. (JayBaudin (talk) 00:27, December 3, 2018 (UTC))

So basically we're still having a tomato vs tomatoe style argument here. I think Fullemetal Alchemist is fine enough because people will naturally assume it's referring to the original manga (and by extension Brotherhood) and you think it has to be listed as Brotherhood because the distinction needs to be made more clear. Honestly at this point, it's pretty obvious the two of us are both dead set on our super specific reasoning for this, so I'm just gonna leave the wiki before a genuine argument that neither of us are gonna win breaks out. I honestly haven't been having much fun here for the past three months or so and have been debating on whether I should leave forever. The only real reason I haven't already is because I see mistakes on certain pages and I feel compelled to continue being here to fix them even though I feel my time is wasted here. So if anything this conversation pushing me to go through with it is a good thing. (JayBaudin (talk) 18:42, December 3, 2018 (UTC))

Is it now? I don't consider it accurate, nor do some users on the comments either. The limitation I placed on eternal evolution is valid and clears that up. Again, the opposite to perfection isn't evolution; it's the status of being imperfect or in other words, incomplete. So I guess I'll have to change it back if you do undo it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  Omuni (talk) 01:58, December 3, 2018 (UTC)

Doable.

Omuni is Discussions Moderator and Chat moderator, so there's some authority backing him. And I have to say that posters above do have some point, you've been pretty sharp with your opinions on other members lately. Might want to soften that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:25, December 3, 2018 (UTC)

Question
Since you created Transformation Mastery, I had a question.

Could it apply to a singular transformation? Like a werewolf completely mastering their wolf form, or like Goku and Gohan mastering the basic Super Saiyan form?

I wanted to expand upon it, but I figured I'd ask you beforehand, since you're the creator. Smijes08 (talk) 14:20, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

Even if it is sub-power of Literary Manipulation, there's actually nothing that limits Ol to written material. I'll go with the broader version, as making a new power would be pretty much same thing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:58, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

As Light and Void are outside Warcraft-verse and not everything, I don't think they really fit the idea.

You're basically talking about Embodiment version of Outside Manipulation? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:21, December 7, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:54, December 7, 2018 (UTC)

Hey man I just made a new page and am looking for some help I know you're probably busy but if you get the chance please look Primordial Space Manipulation. I just created it and cant get the picture I had to load, I could also use some Advice.RegalHarbinger (talk) 21:34, December 7, 2018 (UTC)RegalHarbinger

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:55, December 8, 2018 (UTC)

Why did you undo my edits on Evil Embodiment? I was only trying to make it look neater. Bagginos (talk) 09:39, December 9, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry SageM if that it what you consider it, I was pointing out the facts, once a power has limits it automatically is not an Omnipotent power.

But nevermind, it does not matter anyway! Just fake powers listed by little children.

Leo Jason Caris (talk) 00:25, December 10, 2018 (UTC)

Power to get unrelated powers? Bit pointless. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:33, December 10, 2018 (UTC)

Not necessarily, if you will. Interspatial Manipulation just deals with manipulating the space between spaces, not exactly realities. Plus, Primordial Existence Manipulation deals mainly with a single reality, not all realities like Alpha Reality does. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:42, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

But this is moreso treating the world between realities as a reality itself, not as a spatial medium. Plus, this is also a time travel power that allows for the travel between timelines and time itself, if you will. I doubt Interspatial Manipulation covers that. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:49, December 15, 2018 (UTC)

Expand that to cover all powers instead of just strikes and change name to fit and you got a deal. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:40, December 16, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:04, December 16, 2018 (UTC)

Wanna explain that, sir? I checked the power you spoke of, and I did not see anything about manipulating physical laws in other realities and universes. It just manipulates physics in all forms. Doesn't say anything about other universes. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:26, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Do you mean realistic muscle atrophy without reduction of strength or not losing muscle tone despite not using them? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:39, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

I don't think we have either, tho just strength is bit limited. Maybe expand the idea to cover other areas as well. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:10, December 17, 2018 (UTC)

Say, when are you going to do that one power? The one which has the user be in completely full strength and condition/fitness despite not having done anything for a while/lack of movement/atrophy? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 21:02, December 18, 2018 (UTC)

Name's clunky but idea is usable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:24, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

SageM, is there a power in which the user can perceive the emotions of others? --Chris Urena (talk) 03:54, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:07, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

¿Seriously? ¿You had to take out everything?Oghta (talk) 18:35, December 22, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:41, December 22, 2018 (UTC)

He had showed it, it's only that you either don't see it or don't want to admit he has that level. But since i don't want to get in trouble for edit-war (and i have pretty much enough problems for not knowing to use italics) and i don't really care about what you think, i won't add him back. Still, i think anybody else's gonna do it.Oghta (talk) 20:18, December 22, 2018 (UTC)

Have a nice day/night.Oghta (talk) 20:19, December 22, 2018 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:11, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Reality Entrance - doable.

Foreign Existence/Non-versal Being/Existence/Non-Reality Existence - bassically Omnilock combined with Dimensional Travel, Planeswalking or any other dimensional/planar travel power. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:34, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:03, December 24, 2018 (UTC)

Interesting idea, tho not the best name.

Connected to Sympathetic Magic? --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:15, December 25, 2018 (UTC)

Could work. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:32, December 25, 2018 (UTC)

Well, both Murata and One (One Punch Man's makers) have confirmed he can easily destroy planets, and he has fought with a charatcer who's said surpass easily the light speed, though i don't remember what character was. ¿Had you thought that maybe he hasn't destroyed a planet cause he is a hero and has no real reason to do it? Even Murata draw a panel where he destroys earth. Had you watched the series? Had you read the manga or wiki? Sorry, you try to explain me why he hasn't "demostrated" he is an user of those powers but, please try to inform you a little more about the case. Oghta (talk) 22:12, December 25, 2018 (UTC)

First of all, try to control you a little, i don't like your tone and i'm trying to be reasonable. Unlike you, i had red the manga (not comics, MANGA) and as you said, the author hasn't showed what he's truly capable of, so you saying he can't do cetain thing comes outright stupid. Had you noted that Saitama is lazy and don't have a good sense of direction, hence why he takes too much to get on the battlefield. If you are gonna respond me first try to calm yourself down cause unlike you i had read the manga and webcomic, maybe not complete, but i know better about this character than you. And your arguments are indeed flawed. Oghta (talk) 22:19, December 25, 2018 (UTC)

Your arguments, along with you, are flawed and wrong. Still, he has yet to show what he can do, but because of that same logic don't you dare to say what he can or can't, cause we aren't sure. So i won't add him back, but don't see yourself as some smart guy cause you are not, and pretty of your arguments were wrong, flawed and outright stupid (which makes me wonder if you truly had watched the anime and manga). Still, i understand he has to show it, so i'm gonna wait if the chance comes. And for the last time, calm yourself. Oghta (talk) 22:34, December 25, 2018 (UTC)

Ok i won't add him back nor ask to add him again. Still, some of your speechs about Saitama (like why he takes to long to get on the battle before the heroes get beaten up) are wrong and you are not as right as you think are about Saitama. And you are not being reasonable, cause it seems like you exaggerated some of his flaws in order to prove your point. So i want to ask you a favor; unless i commit a mistake or you need to talk about an important issue, don't ever message me again. Oghta (talk) 22:50, December 25, 2018 (UTC)

Please stop saying "never will" cause we don't know. ¿And can you do me the favor i asked and don't message me again? You are so mean, even if you are right you are so mean, i agreed to stop trying to add him back so what exactly are you trying to do now? You overxaggerated some of his flaws as i said, and i don't know if you have some attention or read problem but i don't want to talk with you anymore. I already accepted to stop, leave alone.

I deleted your messages on my talk wall, you are free to do the same with my messages. Please, if i commit an mistake with this wiki and its rules contact an admin or other user about it, but don't message me. '''I don't want to talk with you again. Oghta (talk) 01:46, December 26, 2018 (UTC)'''

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:26, December 26, 2018 (UTC)

Hey men, i just wanted to ask apologies for my previous behavior and messages. You were just working according to the rules and criteria of this wiki and you have more experience. Forgive my rudeness. Oghta (talk) 06:28, December 26, 2018 (UTC)

Nonexistent Physiology (..?)
Hello. I had a question about 'Non-Existent Physiology' in it's own page. When you are free, would you look to it for an answer?

Thanks from now.

Tier-Sarcasm (talk) 09:21, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

Hello SageM it’s Garlington41 I’ve come across a problem that hasn’t been addressed in months the character Asura from Asura’s Wrath is on the front page of Absolute Strength but he is also on Strength Infinitum. A few months ago I got into a debate with someone who made valid points in why a character who has Strength Infinitum can’t be a user of Absolute Strength so he can’t be both. I’ve already made a comment about this on the Absolute Strength page but no one has done anything about it. I don’t want to handle it myself because I know little to nothing about the character so I wouldn’t know which page he really belongs in. I’m hoping that you can or know someone who can fix this error that no one has addressed --Garlington41 (talk) 13:16, December 27, 2018 (UTC)Garlington41

Mindshifting being stated to be an opposite to Body Supremacy was a recent development and you know it. Stop acting like it's always been a concept associated with the page. Since you want to claim the validity of that statement by claiming "it's right there on the page", then I could do the same thing in saying that it is a sub-power of Virtual Warping and the mental equivalent to Shapeshifting. Self Supremacy being a combination of both powers literally says nothing about whether or not MS should/should not be considered the opposite to Body Supremacy. That's like saying Electric-Fire Manipulation is proof that Fire Manipulation is opposite from Electricity Manipulation.

And unless you're very disingenuous, ignorant or a combination of both you'd know that MS being the opposite of Body Supremacy was certainly not the way it has always been and most certainly not the reason its design is the way it is. Also, using your logic, Mental Mimicry is clearly listed as the mental equivalent to Doppelgänger Morphingright on the page itself. So that example flies right out the door.

I'm going to revert the edit and would appreciate it if you don't push the issue further than it has to be. -- The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 19:04, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Like I said when I reverted the edit; check any version of the page before the whole Body Supremacy thing started and you'll see that it was always a sub-power of Virtual Warping and the equivalent to Shapeshifting. If you don't want to believe me, or the history of the very page itself, the source you keep trying to selectively hearken back to when it suits you, ask DYBAD himself - he's the one who actually created the page.

And as for adding powers that clearly don't belong on the page - yeah, you fit that notion a hell of a lot more than I do. -- The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 19:44, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Say, Sage, I am planning to make a poeer called Existence Stabilizartion, which makes it so the user's existence cannot be altered or erased by any means. I just want to know, is there a power like that already? Reality Anchoring, maybe? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:36, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Mindshifting - why are you telling me this? Go to your opposite number and explain your reasoning. Note that I said explain, not tell/dictate.

Cosmic Guardian - fixed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:23, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

Change it from Reflexes to something else (Dodge or Evasion maybe?, we don't need level above absolute conditions), and you got a deal. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:25, December 30, 2018 (UTC)

Omnipresent Avoidance/Shift - neither really covers it. Check if any existing power covers both parts?

Power Echo - yes, but it depends on the Users' relative strength really. If there's too much cap between them, it's not going to do anything. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:05, December 30, 2018 (UTC)

Getting bit too close to being next level above Absolute Combat. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:19, December 30, 2018 (UTC)

Omnipresent Counteraction looks good.

Replication Manipulation - doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:58, December 30, 2018 (UTC)

OK, thanks. --Chris Urena (talk) 01:43, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Leo Jason Caris (talk) 02:52, December 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * SageM why did you reverse my recent changes to Absolute Wish?
 * Why do you hate everyone's edits but only accept your own like you are some god
 * Why?

Sorry SageM, it was foolish of me to jump to conclusions. Please accept my humble apologies!

Leo Jason Caris (talk) 02:56, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

SageM is there a power in which the user can: relay their memories to a target, remove illusions placed on a target by others, and forcefully extract information from a target using something such as eye contact, without having to physically oppress the target/manipulate their minds or something of the like? --Chris Urena (talk) 17:03, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

Quick question SageM: can a user of X-Ray Vision also have access to Dimensional Vision? --Chris Urena (talk) 17:30, December 31, 2018 (UTC)

MEM - Magical Energy Manipulation

Multiversal/Parallel Summoning - doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:30, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Hi, do you mind if I ask you a question? Oghta (talk) 21:10, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Scroll Boxes
I did it because the scroll box in that page was making the cartoons, animes, games etc sections to be under Folklore and Mythology, i didin't knew that the intention was to every sub-section to be in the same scroll box instead of a scroll box for each sub-section, but now i'm gonna just put the title of the folklore and mythology section in the scroll box as well ok? Doctor49 (talk) 00:48, January 5, 2019 (UTC)

I have my doubts
I tend not to believe the person who removes everything that I put on this site, then someone else goes around and put the same thing that I had and it's accepted. Along with the fact there are other errors on the site that you have overlooked. If the Desperados from Rakudai Kishi no Eyuuitan don't count, then how do Shido Itsuka count? DevilSlayer123 (talk) 03:34, January 5, 2019 (UTC)

Yo! i know you've been undoing my edits, just wanted give the evidence as to why i've been doing said edits:

Tempestas: Roman, not greek goddess that i've also found no info on her embodying storms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempestas

Kymopoleia is a greek goddess of storms as even stated on the wikipedia page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kymopoleia

as for storm embodiment, disaster manipulation isn't a fit application for various reasons and as the literal embodiment of storms, one would have omnipotent control over their domain or at least nigh-omnipotent control so all storm based powers are valid.

User(NiklausOriginals1 )

"In Greek mythology, Kymopoleia (Κυμοπόλεια), latinized as Cymopoleia, was a daughter of sea god Poseidon and sea Nereid Amphitrite, and is known as the Greek goddess of the seas and of storms, and the wife of Briares one of the three Hecatoncheires.<sup id="cite_ref-1">[1]"

There was a recent update to wikipedia and check other sources before saying the only media that relates her to storms is percy jackson... becase that's false, wikipedia is one of the only sources that used too *notice used too* list her as an earthquake deity, storm waves or storms are, from what i can see are her main spheres of control. she's not listed as a daimon?? false again, the Daimons are the minor gods, Kym is in fact a minor deity, a daughter of Poseidon and Amphitrite.

User(NiklausOriginals1 )

of course there's no evidence, it's mythology and there are hundreds upon hundreds of different variations but first check wikipedia again, i tell it'll say storms, check Theoi *while not a good source it is useful* and just by doing a quick search on google i've found various things that say she was a storm goddess while the minority (one) say she was a goddess of earthquakes. the well known vandal must have changed her to a earthquake goddess because i have looked at her before but i routinely check sites and stuff before doing edits and thus did the same here, i checked the site to find it said she was a storm goddess, check the wikipedia page again. to be entirely honest, get the admins to lock the page but also get them to check google and other online search engines first, i've found minimal sources implying she was a goddess related to earthquakes.

http://www.name-doctor.com/name-kymopoleia-meaning-of-kymopoleia-25308.html

http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Kymopoleia

check both these sites as well User(NiklausOriginals1 )

Hey I put up an Idea on my profile page please check it out and let me know if it has a go to be created

https://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/User:MYTHNERD

MYTHNERD (talk) 00:13, January 6, 2019 (UTC)

Yes. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:21, January 6, 2019 (UTC)

No comments of the similar changes NO did on Leviathan Physiology? --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:49, January 8, 2019 (UTC)

Is the Protogenoi Physiology Page going to be locked to everyone or just that one guy. MYTHNERD (talk) 01:15, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

yo, would you mind not undoing my edits on the primordial deity page? Ophion was once the the king of the universe like Zeus and Kronos but he was overthrown, Heaven isn't even a concept in Greek mythology, omniarch would be a better power but even that wouldn't be truly what it was, a previous kingship, Tartarus is the abyss, the deepest pit of the underworld, the darkest and most fearsome, hell fire isn't a thing, spiritual fire would be more appropriate as a fire of the underworld

(NiklausOriginals1 )

i don't know where in that text that you get heaven lordship? it says how he sang about the earth, the sea and sky and how they were once one but... it also literaly says he yielded to Kronos and Rhea who then lost to Zeus, they are hardly confirmed applications and you say Tartarus would have hell fire? it literally says the flames come from hell, i don't agree that's right because he wouldn't have it, to be entirely honest i think spiritual flame or the primordial flame would be better than hell because spiritual flame is related to the underworld and primordial flames are ancient and the most powerful flames, both of those sound better than Hell fire (NiklausOriginals1 )

i'm not ignoring, quite the opposite actually, i read through Ophion's page and it literally says that "

In some versions of Greek mythology, Ophion (/oʊˈfaɪən/; Greek: Ὀφίων "serpent"; gen.: Ὀφίωνος), also called Ophioneus (Ὀφιονεύς) ruled the world with Eurynome before the two of them were cast down by Cronus and Rhea." they were cast down, no longer ruling, another myth even says Ophion's wife banished him to the underworld after kicking in his teeth becase he boasted that he created the world. on Tartarus's page it literally says nothing about fire, it just says that he was a deity whose realm was used to punish the wicked and that he fathered Typhon and the giants whom opposed Olympus, it doesn't say anything about fire so i'm not even sure that should be there.

Deity[edit]
In the Greek poet Hesiod's Theogony, c. 700 BC, Tartarus was the third of the primordial deities, following after Chaos and Gaia (Earth), and preceding Eros,<sup id="cite_ref-3">[3]  and was the father, by Gaia, of the monster Typhon.<sup id="cite_ref-4">[4]  According to Hyginus, Tartarus was the offspring of Aether and Gaia.<sup id="cite_ref-5">[5]

-User(NiklausOriginals1 )

you don't have to consider both though? it's a page for the greek primordials, not Romans, Hydros, Pontus and Gaia, they are Greek names, not the roman varients, Terra is even on the roman deity page, they could be listed there. but once more, i don't know where hell fire comes from? because neither entry in wikipedia (the one that mentions roman myth and the one from greek) mentions any variation of fire

In Roman mythology, Tartarus is the place where sinners are sent. Virgil describes it in the Aeneid as a gigantic place, surrounded by the flaming river Phlegethon and triple walls to prevent sinners from escaping from it. It is guarded by a hydra with fifty black gaping jaws, which sits at a screeching gate protected by columns of solid adamantine, a substance akin to diamond – so hard that nothing will cut through it. Inside, there is a castle with wide walls, and a tall iron turret. Tisiphone, one of the Erinyes who represents revenge, stands guard sleepless at the top of this turret lashing a whip. There is a pit inside which is said to extend down into the earth twice as far as the distance from the lands of the living to Olympus. At the bottom of this pit lie the Titans, the twin sons of Aloeus, and many other sinners. Still more sinners are contained inside Tartarus, with punishments similar to those of Greek myth. - doesn't mention fire except for the river (and yes thats my main problem with this) if there's an article with it then would you direct me too it? (NiklausOriginals1 )

Saw the problem with Tartarus Protogenoi Physiology so made this hope it helps

Tartarus Manipulation

MYTHNERD (talk) 02:20, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

Before you go to Edit-war, please go bit farther into history. Your argument on Protogenoi Physiology is about Edits that were done just before NiklausOriginals1 did his thing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:45, January 9, 2019 (UTC)

I remember seeing a wikia page on this Fandom Wikia where it says: This character has more powers than every page on this wikia (I'm paraphrasing here). I'm trying to find that page. Can you help?

CarverSindile (talk) 01:22, January 10, 2019 (UTC)

Can you give me an explanation of absolute metabolism?User talk:Arquetion

Say, Sage, I changed that page we were arguing about to Omni-Action. How is it now? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:07, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? What do you think? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:31, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Say, is there a power like Infinite Learning Capacity around here? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 05:05, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

You're talking about Omni-Action? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:23, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Look sometimes I do not understand your reasoning, but it is assumed that this ability is about creating life forms of your imagination if you remove those categories that add is like saying that telekinesis is not a psychic power, it is absurd and has no logic.User talk:Arquetion

Check Entity Creation Capabilities, nothing that says they are alive. They are basically animated matter/energy given temporal existence. If IEC shouldn't have those categories, neither do any other EC Variation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:44, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Say, weren't you going to do Absolute Flexibility? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:48, January 12, 2019 (UTC)

Worthiness Enchantment gets pretty close, bit of editing on Capabilities and it's spot on.

Conceptual Interaction/Contact - doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:35, January 13, 2019 (UTC)

Question
How are the capacities of the absolute cells?User talk:Arquetion

age is not considered an attribute of living beings?User talk:Arquetion

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:33, January 14, 2019 (UTC)

Could u tell me which of my powers are already on here MYTHNERD (talk) 21:43, January 14, 2019 (UTC)

what are the capabilities of absolute cells. User talk:Arquetion

Could u link me those powers so i can see if i can make mine different from them MYTHNERD (talk) 22:04, January 14, 2019 (UTC)

and it has users in case you think or plan to create it?User talk:Arquetion

Hey, Sage, is there anything wrong with an idea called Enhanced Socialness? Basically, it is the ability to have enhanced social skills and status. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:28, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

What kind of power is responsible for increasing and improving bodily functions including their efficiency?User talk:Arquetion

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Please compare them, one copies dreams, other allows you to enter the dreams someone has had in past. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:38, January 22, 2019 (UTC)

out of curiosity, I would like to know why the rhino tribe has collective intelligence?User talk:Arquetion

How does absolute metabolism work?User talk:Arquetion

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:53, January 25, 2019 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:31, January 26, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad - PlatinumFist(7

What Powers cover Legacy Physiology MYTHNERD (talk) 23:48, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, what are your reasons for adding a head researcher to remolding?User talk:Arquetion

and I have another question because the rhino tribe of the legends of chima have collective intelligence? where we know they are stupid.User talk:Arquetion

Omni-Exile/Banishment - Opposite to Meta Summoning?

Template Manipulation - you need to define what you mean by template before anything else. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

RE: Bleach novels
Yeah, I know it's very annoying the Bleach wiki is stubborn about adding content about the light novels. That being said, TvTropes does have some info about it that they're trying to update, but most of my knowledge comes from the ongoing translations and summaries on the Bleach Reddit. Hope that helped. Timjer (talk) 07:14, January 31, 2019 (UTC)

Can you explain what absolute surgery would be like?User talk:Arquetion

can you teach me how to create a power

or send a editable template that I can edit so I can fill it in

Usable idea but bad name. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:21, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:51, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:53, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

Hey SageM, would you consider Fear Inducement to be one of the Sharingan’s powers considering that some users of the Sharingan have been seen using the Dojutsu to intimidate those who make eye contact with them? --Chris Urena (talk) 01:23, February 5, 2019 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:44, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Omnipotence
Hello Sage, how's it going? I'd like to discuss something with you, if possible answer me please. In Semantics Omnipotence is defined as "almighty" and "power to do all". Of course, "being able to do everything" and "all-powerful" are concepts, then limits. But, finally, how do we arrive at the conclusion that Omnipotence is True and Absolute Unlimited, besides ALL? How to come to this conclusion?

I do not want to be boring, and I apologize for this, but I would like to discuss this with a more open-minded person. Answer this, please. Vitorriq (talk) 19:02, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

OK, well, are there any existing ways to prove a Monotheistic Deity being truly omnipotent? Why I stated this is because of an existing controversial argument that there's no way to prove True Omnipotence, which is something that throws me off the edge and into dismissing such an argument. ChocolateElemental (talk) 21:27, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Well, sure, it may be unprovable, but I find that's what makes that power special, doesn't it? ChocolateElemental (talk) 21:41, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

But the question remains, even if Omnipotence is paradoxical and unprovable, do those two factors make this superpower special? ChocolateElemental (talk) 22:14, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Now, yes I don't usually keep things in order based on alphabetical order, sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Again, I'll try to do so in the future. I'm willing to admit that. But I don't see why you found the need to undo or just ease the edits I've done on those recent pages. I found no problem with those gifs I added or me updating Kira/Light's old manga pic on Jinx, which I added by the way. - PlatinumFist(7

When you get down to it, Nemean Lion Physiology is basically lion with few extras, Pegasus Physiology is winged horse and probably few others that don't come to mind now. Why focus on this one? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:26, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

If it's just about phrasing it as request, then it's just special effect on Vocifery.

If it's actually asking and receiving effects from outside force, I'd go with Theurgy. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:56, February 9, 2019 (UTC)

Sounds more like special effect for some other power.

Environmental Merging - doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, February 10, 2019 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:45, February 11, 2019 (UTC)

Sounds more like being able to detect the price instead of inducing it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:35, February 11, 2019 (UTC)

SageM, is there a power in which the user can read others’ intentions? --Chris Urena (talk) 13:55, February 11, 2019 (UTC)

Not that I know. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, February 12, 2019 (UTC)

Asta in Power Negation
Asta can only negate magic, this is true. However, the world of Black Clover revolves around magic.

By that logic, Blackbeard from One Piece can only negate Devil Fruit powers, and nothing else. Yet, Blackbeard is eligible to be included on the page. Ditto for Seastone. What is the distinction? ThanksDeeeFoo (talk) 01:31, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

I see, thank you for explaining it to me in detail. Admittedly, this was my own mistake, since I am not completely up to date with Black Clover, so I didn't know that powers other than magic existed in it.

However, that still brings me back to the question: How come Blackbeard is considered a user? By your own definition, "Power Negation is for negating all types and forms of powers not just one kind/variation." Which is a fair definition, I'm just wondering about the consistency of the users listed.

Blackbeard can only negate Devil Fruit powers, and not other non-DF based powers (Haki).

Asta can only negate magic, and not other non-magic based powers (curses).

Yet, Blackbeard is qualified to be listed as a user of Power Negation, yet Asta is not? What's the distinction? DeeeFoo (talk) 17:19, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

While it is true that Devil Fruits come in a large variety of powers, is that not also true for the magic system in Black Clover? You've got light magic, dark magic, wind magic, fire magic, water magic, etc etc. DeeeFoo (talk) 01:52, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

Sure, but how does that not apply to Devil Fruits? They're all still considered one thing in the end... '''Devil Fruits. '''They may have a variety of types, but they're still all Devil Fruits. It's not like different Devil Fruits can be different in the same way that magic and curses are different in Black Clover.

BTW, I'm not contesting Asta's inclusion on the Magic Negation page, nor his exclusion on Power Negation, that much I can agree with. I'm just having a hard time understanding how your reasoning for excluding Asta doesn't also apply to Blackbeard. All Devil Fruit powers can be negated by Blackbeard, but Haki cannot. All magic can be negated by Asta, but curses cannot. Therefore, both Asta and Blackbeard have powers in their respective worlds that they cannot negate. Power Negation requires that the user be able to negate ALL powers in their story's universe, as you said. So, since Blackbeard cannot negate all powers in his universe (he can't negate Haki), is he truly a user of Power Negation if his negation is selective? DeeeFoo (talk) 02:55, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

Look, I'm trying to be as polite and respectful as I can. The reason I'm asking is because I'm genuinely curious and want to learn more, and am just asking you to clarify it further so that there isn't any confusion. If you're going to be dismissive of my questions like that, then the least you can do is point me in a direction where I can go to have them answered. Is there a discord server for this wiki or something?DeeeFoo (talk) 21:52, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I wasn't trying to imply that you were disrespectful, just that the nature of your comment carried a very dismissive tone to it, and that one might take it in a negative way. Now that you mention the objects being able to use Devil Fruit powers, it's a bit more clear to me now. I still think it's strange that Devil Fruit powers are treated as if they weren't a single system like magic is (magic can be imbued into objects in Black Clover just like how Devil Fruit powers can), but it is what it is. I'm still curious about learning more on the topic, so I'll just do my own research in the meantime. DeeeFoo (talk) 22:19, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Man tho I was thinking more like Gods of Dragons more than Godly Dragons though I guess it's really just a play on words MYTHNERD (talk) 02:01, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

gotcha well thx do you know if there was anything on a Draconic Force Manipulation? MYTHNERD (talk) 02:07, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

Got it thx MYTHNERD (talk) 02:15, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

Hi, can we talk?Oghta (talk) 03:10, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

Heya, i won't argue on the fire embodiment because i don't see myself getting anywhere but seriously, look it up yourself, Fafnir was turned into a dragon by a ring of greed in Norse myth and Plutus was a god in Greek mythology, not Rome - he also didn't embody Greed, he embodied prosperity and so on. (NiklausOriginals1 )

that's not at all what i'm saying, what i'm saying is that there are multiple resources online that say whether a being does embody a concept and if you strip mythology down... well, primordials, titans, olympians and the daimons are all immortals, although, the Primordials themselves don't just embody the makings of the world, they are them, Gaia IS the earth and Pontus IS the sea and so on, they are stated to be these things, then look at things like Hybris - a daimon who is known to embody Pride and Hubris.

also... seriously, i said i wouldn't argue with fire embodiment - that was on you to bring it up, Fafnir doesn't embody greed, he was simply turned into a dragon (originally an elf) because of a ring that fed on his Greed. Plutus was a greek deity who embodied prosperity and wealth, he was not a roman deity, the romans kind of... combined Plutus and Hades to make Pluto, god of wealth and the underworld. i won't send any more messages after this... but seriously. (NiklausOriginals1 )

Category:Embodiments: Power that make user the physical manifestation or personification of a certain power or concept. If the god is (X), then they are embodiment, if they are god of (X) they aren't. For example Nyx (Greek Mythology/protogenoi) is night, so she's embodiment. Ratri (Hindu Mythology) is goddess of night, she isn't embodiment.

I've said few times that we really need to clean up the embodiments as quite a few of the Users really don't belong there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:18, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

Have you told those reasons to NiklausOriginal1 instead of just deleting his changes?

Did I say that they weren't? All mythical embodiments were considered gods, not all gods were embodiments. Apollo isn't sun any more than Artemis is moon, they are deities of those.

Sorry about the blunt wording, getting way too late here and I'm not feeling very verbose.. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:41, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

Doesn't Partial Transformation normally work on certain parts of the body rather than all of them? As for Multi-Shapeshifting, that turns the user into more than one being separately it seems. This idea of mine is the same body of the user rather than multiple bodies. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:54, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

Utopia Manipulation
Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:54, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

Could you two argue about Growtopia on your Talk-pages before going to that Edit/undo cycle? Granted that it's several pages instead of single one, but it's really getting pointless. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:33, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

but in the game the player has so many abilities but ok ill stop Except when a the growtopia characters realy have the power and the growtopia rhino can remove powers of his opponent and koupofi just remove it from power erasure....

Drburger (talk) 22:58, February 14, 2019 (UTC)

Metahumans in Real Life
Also referred to as either Espers, Advanced/Augmented/Enhanced/Modified Humans, Neohumans/Superhumans, Homo Superiors, Superpowered Humans or Superior Humans, are Humans with superpowers. However, from what I've recently thought of, do you think Humans injected with anti-biotics be considered real-life Metahumans too? I mean, immunities can be a superpower, and modification is what causes humanity to turn into Metahumans, yet anti-biotics gives people temporary immunity to diseases. Not only that, at least for a really good laugh, I also looked up these articles about conditions that potentially would've given people powers.

https://www.brainz.org/rare-diseases/

ChocolateElemental (talk) 00:12, February 15, 2019 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:24, February 15, 2019 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page.

Do I need to lock Supernatural Hearing? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:37, February 15, 2019 (UTC)

OK. --Chris Urena (talk) 20:37, February 15, 2019 (UTC)

Then undo the renaming. I'd do it myself, but it's so late that my eyes are starting to blur.

I'm copy/pasting your answer to YD, you'll have to answer him about this as I'm trying to get to bed right after finishing this. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:25, February 15, 2019 (UTC)

Growtopia
M1tch is like ruby rose A youtube series character And he have that power

Ok but you can create missles with legendbot_9000,you can have fast speeds with item,etc. Go to growtopia wiki and search mods Drburger (talk) 01:59, February 16, 2019 (UTC)

No not moderators mods are abilities search mods in growtopia wiki

Closest thing that comes to mind is Pocket Dimension Creation and it just grew.

Just give me a name and I add it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:31, February 16, 2019 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:19, February 16, 2019 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:50, February 17, 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks. 👍🏽 --Chris Urena (talk) 20:59, February 17, 2019 (UTC)

I'm tired of you, you believe you are right when you are not and if you keep like this you are gonna get in trouble with other users just because you can't stand other people disagreeing with you.Oghta (talk) 21:03, February 17, 2019 (UTC)

Ok, i won't add him back.Oghta (talk) 22:07, February 17, 2019 (UTC)

Sage M i believe Wonder Woman does have strength infitium as well as superman

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:30, February 21, 2019 (UTC)

if you undo my edit again can you give a reason please? as far as i'm aware im correcting false information.

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page.

Absolute Light is locked until you can actually agree about it. Tell me when you've done. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:32, February 23, 2019 (UTC)

Interesting. Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, February 24, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing my mistake.Oghta (talk) 05:32, February 24, 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the remove, but Saitama defeated his first monster using a tie and even used a rock like some sort of bullet to kill an monster in the alien invasion arc.

I also got this from the one punch man wiki; Saitama also prefers to dodge or block attacks using edged weapons rather than take them head on, as he sometimes does with strikes from fists or blunt objects.Oghta (talk) 21:29, February 25, 2019 (UTC)

That's bit too limited, expand the idea to cover more and it could work. Maybe all forms of complete immobility? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:16, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

Victory Inducement
I noticed you undid my edit for Victory Inducement. Why do you insist on keeping Phineas and Ferb there; when have they had victory inducement, what episode confirmed that? Pikazilla (talk) 18:42, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

Go ahead.

Connections to Storybook Mimicry/Book Immersion? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, February 28, 2019 (UTC)

Needs better name but doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:58, March 1, 2019 (UTC)

I got it but I was thinking something more along the lines of Destructive Dominion except for life and death MYTHNERD (talk) 23:30, March 1, 2019 (UTC)

Problem Started Again
Look. I don't know what is your problem not expecting my apologies. Fine, you are not not hurting me, but yourself. Plus, you already knew that Thor and Hercules truly belongs in the page of "Strength Infinitum", but you think, you think that they don't belong there. You think I was messing up with the page, but it was me who add a gif for MCU Hela crushing Thor's hammer. I know 100% that I am right, so if you be my guess to stop being a jerk.(ChristopKan (talk) 00:09, March 2, 2019 (UTC))

Say, if you are reading this, what kind of art does your power, Visual Art Manipulation, cover? 2D Art? 3D CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:52, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

I intend on creating a new Omnipathy in which the aforementioned power is the advanced version of Telempathy. --Chris Urena (talk) 02:15, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

By the way, when do you plan to do Utopia Manipulation? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:16, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

Well, Kuo already approved of this, so sorry. --Chris Urena (talk) 13:14, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

That'd been better received before every link was changed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:26, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

Doable.

Incidentally, if there's edit/undo mess over Absolute Strength's new User when I'm away (getting close to midnight here), I'm less than pleased. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:51, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

SageM, what is your username a reference to again? --Chris Urena (talk) 04:52, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

OK, and do you know which power are the ninjas in the following links using: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HJYX9SqCrcI/VExAAcD3MfI/AAAAAAAAAI4/qlzNhd2uDDI/w500-h281/tumblr_m43ccrpXE11r3lv1xo1_500.gif, https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SinfulHealthyBlacklemur-small.gif, https://thumbs.gfycat.com/RegularAcceptableGannet-max-1mb.gif? --Chris Urena (talk) 16:38, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

Yo. I noticed the edit on the electromagnetic manipulation page was reverted because Quantum manipulation was for some reason considered an application of atomic manipulation. Okay. Atoms, despite being affected by the quantum phenomena of the particles composing them, are not fundamental or subatomic; they are composite. Controlling them does not and cannot under any circumstance lead to control of Quantum physics or direct influence over any related phenomena.

So if Quantum manipulation was written as an application of atomic manipulation, then someone has made an accuracy error which is misleading (as proven by one of the commenters on the EM manipulation page), and will therefore have to be removed for that reason.

Its like saying control of chemical compounds leads to control over quantum phenomena itself.

I might make the edit needed to remove misleading or incorrect info at some point, though whether you feel that to be the best course of action or not will of course have an effect on my decision to do so. Quartzmaser (talk) 23:19, March 4, 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Why did you revert my edits to the Death Force Construct page? Is it just because I need to make a content revision thread on a forum or something, or do you believe the revision to be wrong? Monarch Laciel (talk) 00:17, March 8, 2019 (UTC)

The new skill they have just invented is literally acquiring skills through psychic powers. This power is different and unique.User talk:Arquetion

Divine Ingestion to Deity Consumption - doable. Remember to change the links. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, March 9, 2019 (UTC)

Bit iffy but go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:35, March 10, 2019 (UTC)

Hypnagogia Manipulation - I think that one of CrystalStorm51's powers covers that, it was done this month.

You mean Libriomancy? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, March 13, 2019 (UTC)

Have fun. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:24, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

Retroactive Immortality
if you can run out of lives and die permantely, then you are not immortal and don't have this power. SouthParkKelly (talk) 22:38, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

It makes no sense. That's like saying a limitation for mind-reading is that the user might not be able to read minds. SouthParkKelly (talk) 22:49, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

Ok, so i guess for "omnipotence", we should add a limitation that there are things that "omnipotent" beings might not be able to do. SouthParkKelly (talk) 22:58, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

12. No repeated Editing/Undoing of the same thing. If this becomes problem take it to Comments/Talk and talk it out instead of repeatedly messing with the page. Absolute Beauty is locked for a week, use that item to talk it over. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:05, March 17, 2019 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:41, March 18, 2019 (UTC)

Well, since it's poison I'd say they can absorb it. Since it's absolute, in my opinion there's a very good change that they get themselves poisoned while doing so. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:45, March 19, 2019 (UTC)

Devic Physiology
Hello SageM. i got a message saying from a guy stating you had issues with him making edits to the page I made a while ago. From what I can recall, I wasnt that familiar witht the creature in terms of full folklore, so I have no problem if someone hass some corrections for it.

Plus I looked the page over and it didnt seem to be bad or that big of a change.Zxankou14 (talk) 22:06, March 20, 2019 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:37, March 21, 2019 (UTC)

Storage Manipulation - no practical differences to Room Manipulation aside how it's used.

Storage Expansion - call it Room Expansion and you got a deal. Skuld from AMG did this.

Omni Energy Generation/Power Looping - doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:52, March 23, 2019 (UTC)

No plans on doing so. You can make it yourself, if you want. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:39, March 25, 2019 (UTC)

Experience Reset - go for the broader version.

Health Infinitum - doable.

receive(...) from ending/killing -t usable idea, we have Post-Mortem Power Absorption/Post-Mortem Shapeshifting which cover organic side. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:43, March 25, 2019 (UTC)

Transcendent Ability Learning - doable.

Post-Mortem Absorption or Post-Mortem Empowerment - Absorption and Empowerment are both very specific things/powers, so unless it does one of those, you might want to think different name. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:45, March 25, 2019 (UTC)

Way too close to Heart Empowerment. Just modify the Capabilities of HE to include heartbeat. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:19, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

Genie limitations
Oh yeah, that's right.

"It's not a pretty picture. I don't like doing it!" Smijes08 (talk) 17:45, March 29, 2019 (UTC)

Devic Physiology
SageM the little mistakes on the Devic Physiology page are becoming a problem all because you refuse to listen to reason and insist on remaining ignorant. I asked you a simple question: how are hindu and buddhist gods in any way related to angels? Instead of a straightforward answer, you send me info that has absolutely nothing to do with my question. Also it seems your knowledge in world religion is lacking because you should know by now that New Agers believe in humans evolving into angelic beings called devas. As stated in the link below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deva_(New_Age)

In the subsequent link I am about to send you it is also clearly stated that one should not confuse devas and daevas. Daevas are the creations of Angra Mainyu. If you have proof they are otherwise please send a link and stop acting illiterate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daeva

This is not the first time you have pulled something like this as I have seen others on your wall complain about similair occurences.

You are not above the cosmological systems. If you want to argue with the philosophers that wrote these down then be my guest but until then its their word against yours and they have stated that:

1)Daevas are explicitly said to be demons, unless, of course you can prove otherwise.

2)Hindu/buddhist gods have nothing to do with angels;again, unless you can prove otherwise.

And one last thing to end it all: you mentioned that the terms 'daeva' and 'deva' are too similar to create a seperate page, but why would a numbskull create a new page when they can place them as users of Demon Physiology?

Firstly, the phoenix force precedes the multiverse, it was around long before the first cosmos let alone the fifth. The phoenix is also considered to be an omniversal power while fifth cosmos as you correctly said is multiversal. Secondly, the fifth cosmos was around the same level as Eternity. Eternity is far below the living tribunal. The living tribunal is well below God Emperor Doom. King Phoenix defeated a version of Doom that was even stronger than his God Emperor Self. Eternity was completely outclassed by an incomplete infinity gauntlet. God Emperor Doom made a complete infinity gauntlet look insignificant. King Phoenix defeated an even stronger version of doom. It is you who is making stuff up. LordWhis (talk) 10:57, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

Can you stop insulting me and actually start countering my points, it is only making you look bad.

The Phoenix Force is the sum total of all life in the omniverse, this has been stated several times.

King Phoenix defeated the strongest version of doom who is thus superior to God Emperor Doom who is above LT who is above the fifth cosmos.LordWhis (talk) 20:11, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:58, March 30, 2019 (UTC)

That's basically special effect for regeneration.

doable --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:31, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Needs better name but usable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

Phoenix Physiology
User talk: AZS Please Compare my edits before making undo I am recover your categories
 * Please make your edits with out undo
 * Please my friend make your edits without undo

Is there practical difference to combining different technologies from different places/planets on same dimension? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:30, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Say, are you planning on doing Utopia Manipulation anytime soon?

And what about a power called Erasure Manipulation you asked Kuo about? Did he approve for you to do that? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:37, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Okay then. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:59, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

In a 2017 comment on the page Omniverse Destruction you said the following about the Phoenix- “she has absolute mastery over existence, so she could easily wipe out the the omniverse without trying if she wished, and since she can exist outside the omniverse its not a problem for her.”

LordWhis (talk) 14:29, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

Undo
hhhhhhhhh please dude/babe correct my edits without undo

AZS (talk) 22:01, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

hhhhhhh no it is not what I mean

if I wrote sonething wrong or you just disagree with

You can delete or edit it without undo

because undo for disastrous mistakes

AZS (talk) 00:39, April 7, 2019 (UTC)

At what point in the series did Yuuki Kagurazaka acquire infinite and absolute mental attributes?User talk:Arquetion

Call off your attack dog.
You know who I'm talking about. He copy-pastes everything you say, and undoes every edit that you don't like thirty seconds after it's made.

Get him to stop, or I'll report him to the admins. ShadowMonarch212 (talk) 22:11, April 7, 2019 (UTC)

I was going to follow your suggestion, but then he dared me to report him, so I did that instead.

He's clearly just a troll. I'm sorry I accused you of being complicit. ShadowMonarch212 (talk) 22:45, April 7, 2019 (UTC)

then rimuru also has infinite and absolute mental attributes, because I absorb yuuki kagurazakaUser talk:Arquetion

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:47, April 8, 2019 (UTC)

Do you read any of my scans-

1. I showed you a scan of a star brand user overpowering the LT.

2. The Phoenix is much more ancient than the fifth cosmos and do you know who said this- you in a comment in 2017. Saying that King phoenix would lose to the fifth cosmos is like saying that spectre would lose to darkseid just because his host Hal Jordan is newer than Darkseid.

3. Do you honestly think Doom who has the power of the whole beyonder race is going to lose to LT who was beaten by 3 beyonders ?

Phoenix is of the same stature as oblivion.

LordWhis (talk) 15:45, April 8, 2019 (UTC)

In that same post from 2017, you said that Phoenix was infinitely above LT.LordWhis (talk) 17:11, April 8, 2019 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:50, April 8, 2019 (UTC)

Maybe, but that has more to do with the reality the user is currently in. This is multiversal level. Plus, this idea would affect things at most, depending on what they have. It doesn't necessarily have to be manipulating reality. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:32, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

Note
When you get a new idea after posting one, just edit the already existing post instead of adding a new one. When I get several posts at once I work from the top down nad if there's posts between yours it gets confusing.

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, April 9, 2019 (UTC)

Don't we already have this covered. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:25, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Powers doable.

Make it "Due to existing outside of everything, user may have only limited ability to contact anyone inside of existence." --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:22, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

Say, is there a difference between Destruction and Erasure? If so, what is it? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:42, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I get it, kinda. So there is nothing left from both processes? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:00, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:16, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Ah, yes, that would be included, but a tree isn't all wood, isn't it? Isn't it also made of leaves? Plus, wood can apply to wooden objects as well, while Tree Manipulation is just trees. I think there is a difference there. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:31, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Well, there is also sap in the trees. We have Sap Manipulation, too. Regardless of what sap's main ingredient is, it's not like there aren't many trees that contain sap, is it? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:39, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Eh, doesn't matter, Imouto replied and thought the power itself was specific. So I am not going to do it. Though I must admit with your "help", I probably wouldn't have done it anyway. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:46, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

Well, similar may be the word, but at least you didn't say they were the exact same thing. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:12, April 11, 2019 (UTC)

So basically Non Created Physiology. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:32, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

OK
Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:38, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

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Hhhhhhh I am sorry if I upset you friend

AZS (talk) 05:35, April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Absolute Beauty
Sage, Kuo locked the page because he was not sure if you would undo my edits, so i need to know if you still insist that satan is not a user, and i need to know if you plan on acting on that belief. If so, revisit all the links i sent, and do the required research, OK? This has gone on for too long, for something that is so obvious. --Morningstar123 (talk) 1:13,April 13, 2019 (UTC)

Sage, the page was locked because of both of us, so stop ignoring me and playing innocent.

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mmm I am sorry I don't mean deleted categories, it is juat technical error

I stop editing that page for now

AZS (talk) 02:08, April 15, 2019 (UTC)

Your Undoing of my Edits to the Destruction powers
Do you have an actual reason, or were you just flouting Wheaton's law? ShadowMonarch212 (talk) 03:01, April 15, 2019 (UTC)

Say, do we have anything like Intangibility Immunity? It should be self explanatory. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:19, April 15, 2019 (UTC)

If Kuo wants to remove anything, that's his business, not mine or yours.

If the universe/multiverse/omniverse pages have a tiering system, there is no reason the lower-level ones can't as well. Since the method of destruction is undefined, it's all a matter of scale.

No universe destruction on a city page? Fine; you can argue that it's just clutter. But where a clear and relevant hierarchy exists (universe > galaxy > planetary system > planet > continent), I'm adding it back.

For close but ambiguous stuff (planet, moon, continent, city, building), I'm adding to Associations if it's not already there.

Whether or not the original Destruction page covers everything, it's always good to add clarity to other pages and cross-reference when possible.

ShadowMonarch212 (talk) 03:27, April 15, 2019 (UTC)

Meh
Feels bit too specific, but go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:08, April 15, 2019 (UTC)

And can you please stop complaining all the time!? it was me who added The Dazzlings in and Music Magic is a sub-power of Siren Physiology, why the name My My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic most be named My Little Pony Series instead when some of the characters are from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic and aren't the Metarex named both Metarex and Males of Cosmo's species?!

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:23, April 17, 2019 (UTC)

Game set and match-

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9724788c526bb8e2f9de4ebe71cc3b23

Please don't ignore it like you ignored all the links I sent you proving that there is only one phoenix and that old king thor's time is merely the future of the 616 universe.LordWhis (talk) 23:24, April 18, 2019 (UTC)

Can I add the Phoenix Force to users of Almighty Mind ?

If the fifth and sixth cosmos are users of almighty magic and science then the PF deserves to be a user of almighty mind. LordWhis (talk) 01:10, April 19, 2019 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, April 21, 2019 (UTC)

Hyle Manipulation
mm what do think for?

what is your concept on hyle

AZS (talk) 11:06, April 23, 2019 (UTC)

Doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:33, April 23, 2019 (UTC)

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how you like objection

I don't hate that

at least wait till the timing's right

thanks friends

AZS (talk) 23:03, April 23, 2019 (UTC)

Please suggest better alternative instead of just slamming the change. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:26, April 24, 2019 (UTC)

Chaos and Order Embodiment
While users that embody only either Chaos and Order exist, would it be possible to embody both? If so, do you have any examples of characters that own this power? ChocolateElemental (talk) 10:50, April 24, 2019 (UTC)

There is no way the king Thor version of Phoenix is only universal, it is unquestionably stronger than Odin who can destroy the 9 realms (each of which is an entire universe)LordWhis (talk) 16:10, April 25, 2019 (UTC)

Hi, i wanted to know why Barbatos (DC Comics) is on the Quantum Telekinesis page? When he has demonstrated to have this power? Elizio33 (talk) 14:23, April 28, 2019 (UTC)

Twilight Manipulation and Twilight Element Manipulation are two distinct powers, but similar powers, they should both be on Omni Element Manipulation, because just putting one would infer one could control the other which isn't necessarily true,  and would be confusion between causation and correlation. Just expect it to be back on the page by the end of the day. Angel38621 (talk) 20:26, April 28, 2019 (UTC)

Like I said, your confusing causation and correlation, so it's going back, doesn't matter how many times you remove it. Twilight Manipulation and Twilight Element Manipulation are two distinct powers, one can have one of the wo powers without the other. Angel38621 (talk) 20:32, April 28, 2019 (UTC)