Talk:Meta Transcendence/@comment-24053170-20180428005635

Transcending a boundary doesn't automatically make you transcend everything, as there are other things beyond the level of boundaries.

After all its why we have powers like Meta-Concept Manipulation and Indeterminacy, which are far outside of even the basic concept of boundaries

Under normal circumstances transcending all limitations would be self-terminating.

However there are some examples of users who exist outside of that general rule or circumstance-

Empty Hand both exists and doesn't exist. Because of the nature of his being he can exist in the verse in the form of a hand that controls everything. But his true self in completely outside of the verse and out of context with everything in the verse. As he is the Reader of the story.

So he transcends everything and yet can still exist because of the nature of his being.

There are exceptions to almost every rule of thumb, and then then there are those who transcend the rules entirely.

Plus neither this power nor omnilock seem to fully cover everything that can be covered by the transcendent powers category.

I am not saying they aren't impressive powers in their own right, I just believe there is some room for improvement. And no, I am not suggesting another beyond all others type of power deal, but rather an umbrella power that lets you do everything that the transcendent powers category can offer.