Talk:Philosophy Materialization/@comment-31951741-20180509195422

Dosen't Chara count? He's an abstract being (that somehow used to be a human kid) that materialized in front of Frisk after the genocide route and even explained his conceptual view of the world (like how it should be destroyed and in turn our power rises) and how he embodies that view (basically anything that has to do with stats rising, literally, stats appear on the screen and he says " thats me")