Talk:Logic Manipulation/@comment-33216323-20171107071253/@comment-33216323-20171109210541

@SageM  You need to stop using our incomplete understanding of the laws of physics as some sort of proof that logic itself is to blame. If something violates our understanding of physics, then clearly it's because our understanding is flawed. Once again, there's a difference between pure logic and applied logic, a difference which you seem unable to comprehend.

@AlphaTheHD  As I said before, mathematics is an abstract concept. It's completely independent of the universe and any sentient life the universe may or may not contain. We don't need to make a single observation about the universe to form new mathematical proofs, all we need is a set of axioms and logic takes over from there.