Talk:Dual Warping/@comment-5303512-20130919002301/@comment-5265497-20130919150047

"Though Firelord is renowned for being the weakest of all, especially in physical combat, so Spidey beating him up isn't that surprising." Firelord may be one of the weaker heralds, but he is still capable of tanking hits from the Silver Surfer and manipulates cosmic energy with ease. Just because he is one of the weaker ones does not excuse he fact that he lost to a character that's not even mid-tier. And Firelord would likely beat the X-men himself and if I remember the issue correctly, he actually has knocked out Colossus in one shot.

Defeating the X-men and the Juggernaught is another show of Sue-like ability and as I said, Captain America despite having no powers has always been portrayed far more realistically.