Talk:Vector Manipulation/@comment-85.138.179.1-20130404190157/@comment-108.66.173.164-20130408214950

Technically my friend here who has replied first did do some sort of research on Pain to sum out that he manipulates gravity and wind which is is absolutely correct. Even though VM could be applied through GM, he is more so of using GM and WM because he doesn't possess all the abilities of VM. You can say he has Enhanced Strength, but VM isn't what he receives it from, this goes for Enhanced Speed as well. Along with that, he cannot fly which you cannot really give any counter statement about. And the final three are Enhanced Regeneration, Dimensional Travel, and Invisibility.

If you think he could still be a user of VM even though he doesn't have about 7 of the listed applications on here, you are incorrect. You cannot call yourself a user if you can only do SOME and not all of them.