Talk:Transcendent Consciousness/@comment-26429591-20171026004644/@comment-26429591-20171026114501

Not really. Strange Tales lays the foundation power wise. If he was the TOAA equivalent, all the creation feats should scale. In Strange Tales, LT was the first one to introduce TOAA, yet we get The Creator instead.

You can't retain something that never happened. Retconned TOAA =/= True TOAA anyways.

From the beginningless void to the end of all things covers everything in TOAA's creation sans TOAA itself. Same thing as the power of thoughts and dreams affecting all DC, ithe Fallen Stars affected all of marvel, no matter where it took place ( before the void to end of all things kind of makes it so any feat that is between that timeframe scales to them ). Viewing all of that as a dream puts you that high. Retcon or not, it happened in Man-Thing's storyline ... And one of the Fallen Stars reappears in Marvel in Man-Thing's comics. So... Whether or not it was fully retconned is up for debate. DaMatteis saying the Creator was TOAA ... Shouldn't be debunked, as he is very knowledgeable on those things and concepts.

This was way after the introduction of TOAA BTW. I said it's a retconned TOAA. Literally the only difference between them is power... One's ridiculously high-end Nigh Omni [ Borderlines True Omni based on dream comparison ... Like Creator is technically above Featherine based on portrayal ] , the other is truly Omni.

If we were using feats alone and not nature and implications, Job would be = to Azathoth, albeit that isn't what we do here.

This scales to what TOAA created, albeit not Post-Retcon TOAA itself. Due to the Fallen Stars appearing later on... It's likely it is still canon even now... Albeit they were ignored for years.

The best way today is he is 2nd, but close or similar in nature  currently. Due to the reappearance of the Fallen Stars in later comics, this happened. Job is... Still around s well, albeit they made sure be doesn't remember his powers in that storyline.