User talk:Storycutter999

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Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the Event Manipulation page!

Please leave a message on my talk page if you need help with anything! Gabriel456 (talk) 03:58, November 2, 2013 (UTC)

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Indeed, matter manipulation has nothing to do with the manipulation of time, unless a form of time manipulation is directly used to manipulate matter in some manner.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 23:32, November 3, 2013 (UTC)

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Indeed, Probability Manipulation is about controlling the odds of something happening in your favor. It doesn't directly control matter and its structure, but it can only do so if one changes the odds of something happening to certain matter in question.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 00:21, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

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No, not directly. Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 00:42, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

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By affecting the events which caused the manner of formation of matter or the odds of it forming in a specific way, Event Manipulation and Probability Manipulation can control matter indirectly. That's your example. Controlling the odds of matter forming a specific way and control what led to matter being formed a certain way. Please be sure to add a signature to you comments as wellConsus, the Erudite God (talk) 00:49, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

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No problem.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 00:54, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

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Impossible? Now that is somewhat subjective. Event Manipulation controls how events would occur past, present, and/or future. Anything defined as impossible can be rendered possible when it actually happens. Many things today were considered impossible by those of the past. If it can happen. those with Event Manipulation can make it happen or make it so something impossible does happen.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 03:30, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

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So was I. The laws of physics are laws we made to impose order upon the world and our environment. If they are broken at some point that means nature just doesn't always follow the rules we think it does. So yes it still could cause what you believe to be impossible.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 03:51, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

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Not in that regard. A person with Event Manipulation would have to make it so the person had the natural ability to flow bestowed upon them at some point in time before they did the jumping. It's a domino effect, they have to alter to make events happen, even supposedly impossible ones.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 21:21, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, they would have to alter events to make sure something seen as impossible would happen. Probability Manipulation can make things that are highly unlikely or "impossible" happen, though there is a limit to how much they can change. Something has to have a chance of happening in order for them to make it so.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 03:19, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, there has to be some possibility of it happening, no matter how small, for a user of Probability Manipulation to make something seen as impossible happen.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 04:05, November 5, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, the user of Event Manipulation must alter events to make what is considered to be physically or environmentally impossible occur of their own will and those with probability manipulation cannot make what is not universally possible of occurring happen as they only affect the odds of events happening. They cannot make occur which has no chance of happening (the impossible or 0%) ,only events which have an incredibly low chance of happening down to the single (.01%) chance of occuring. The user can alter the direction of the comet in your comet situation by changing the event which altered its trajectory and change its speed by altering spatial placement events in the past to make it so it reaches it reaches Earth faster than perceived it would.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 23:58, November 7, 2013 (UTC)

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Spatial Placement Events meaning the events in time or temporal progression which allow points in space to be placed where they are and how those points in space or placed in comparison to others. The user can change the event of their formatting and make it so two points in space are parallel to allow objects to move to a location faster.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 04:44, November 8, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, Precognition allows you to just see the events ahead of time, while Accelerated Probability allows you to see what you might be capable of doing before that event occurs.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 14:11, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, Precognition can allow you to see what event will happen next, but Causality Perception can allow you to see the cause, transition, and effect of an event.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 17:25, November 9, 2013 (UTC)

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A user of Temporal Cognition can sense and perceive the flow of time or when they happen to be at the moment along with future events. If they utilize their knowledge of the timestream, they can coordinate their movements to act against impending threats.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 04:20, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know what relations there are between Probability Manipulation and Time Manipulation, but the difference is that Time Manipulation can just alter the flow of time, and Probability Manipulation just makes likely and unlikely things occur.

Same for Causality Manipulation, not sure if there's a relation, but CM can just manipulate cause and effect (like, snapping your fingers and the result is the ground being split in two) Gabriel456 (talk) 02:26, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

you're welcome Gabriel456 (talk) 02:36, November 11, 2013 (UTC)

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My fault, I am busy from time to time. Yes, a user of Temporal Cognition would be able to use this power to effectively time their attacks and/or movements to something, but they may not be able to affect timing itself.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 14:56, November 12, 2013 (UTC)

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In regards to being limited, Causality Manipulation (despite being called Omnipotent at times by DYBAD) has to allow a user control a specific cause and effect while containing full knowledge of both. A user of Event Manipulation has control over the cause, the effect, and others without having to know full knowledge both because the user just needs to control the event.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 00:48, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, as long as a user knows when an earthquake was possibly meant to happen, which is at anypoint there are tectonic plates.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 02:27, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes. When and where it will happen.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 02:44, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

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I have to go right now. We'll have to continue this later.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 02:55, November 13, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes I am now but I only have time to answer this question. Yes a user of  Event Manipulation could only be able to make events leading to that person getting a specific disease by affecting those specific causes. If the user doesn't know the cause of an event of what set it in motion, they wouldn't know how to properly change it.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 21:51, November 15, 2013 (UTC)

via Reality Warping or Space-Time Manipulation, possibly. Gabriel456 (talk) 04:25, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

well, it can reach Nigh Omnipotence so yeah Gabriel456 (talk) 04:43, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, by controlling the space the object is moving in, the user can cause it to move towards another target.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 03:00, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

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No, it has to be possible realities within a user's known universe.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 03:29, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

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I am not sure yet.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 03:35, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

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Actually, it means various realities that are formed by the events occurring in the same timestream. With every event, a situation occurs and branches to form other events which the user can observe and control. The power cannot observe or alter events from completely different universes unless somehow the events of that universe and the universe the user is in somehow intertwined with one another and that is all.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 03:55, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, something that can manipulate reality itself and the realities of other universes, fictional or not.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 22:33, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

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The Reality Gem in itself can alter reality and allow the user to manipulate matter but does not provide infinite power nor the fortitude the other gems contain. The Mind Gem grants total mental clarity and psionic ability, allowing the user to know the cognitive heights of the reality gem and others. The Power Gem grants limitless power and energy that cannot be properly channeled to commit inexhaustible God-like feats without being used in conjuction with the Reality Gem. The Soul Gem grants dominance over the spiritual plane and essence that is within all living beings, which used in conjuction with the Reality Gem can be used to conquer the physical and spiritual side of existence. The Time Gem grants total temporal clarity and the ability to bend time and causality when used in conjuction with the Reality Gem. Last but not least, the Space Gem grants dominion over the spacial aspects of existence to be used in conjuction with the Reality Gem to move to anypart of space to become essentially omnipresent.

The Reality Gem alone is powerful, but without the other gems it cannot reach its ultimate level of power due to the lack of clarity and resources granted by the other gems. Each Gem may grant some form of dominion, but not all of them control reality,though they all grant the requirements to gaining total control over reality itself.

If there was a Matter Gem, it would indeed grant one the ability to possible reshape and make any substance that exists.The difference between that and the Reality Gem is that the Reality Gem is limited by the user's own ability to will something to happen and what constitutes what the user wants to change.. The Matter Gem would be able to transmute anything into something else regardless of consitution or form. Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 04:38, December 1, 2013 (UTC)

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In conjuction with your Matter Gem, the user would be able to trasmute and create anything from virtually nothing, no matter how impossible or preposterous it may seem to be. The user could do something like turn an entire planet out gas like Jupiter into solid Gold or turn the Sun into cotton candy.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 16:54, December 2, 2013 (UTC)

I know little about the infinity gems but from marvel wiki all it states that it's exceptionally dangerous to use without the other gems, only to be used on a small scale.

Other than that, I have no clue Gabriel456 (talk) 21:09, December 5, 2013 (UTC)

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The limits of the Reality Gem are how it needs a proper channel of power to perform grand feats and how its utilization is limited by the user's imagination. Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 21:44, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

no clue Gabriel456 (talk) 22:04, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Don't know about that either.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful Gabriel456 (talk) 22:15, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

Well, with Past Manipulation you can go back in time and selectively change some events (Time Travel in more convenient), while Future Manipulation basically allows you to set up futuire events (similar to Destiny Manipulation). Present being by nature immediate, I'm affraid you wouldn't have enough margin to do anything at all. Well, I guess you could somehow alter ongoing events, but it wouldn't be any different from Probability Manipulation. DYBAD (talk) 23:21, December 7, 2013 (UTC)

I'd say the targeted area has to be within the user's reach, and each dimension has its specific nature/rules, which the user would have to be familiar with. So affecting other reality would only be possible for very advanced users, unless they have other powers/devices to support them. DYBAD (talk) 02:26, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Some users could, but most probably couldn't (worth mentionning). DYBAD (talk) 02:35, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

I don't really know, in practice all these things are very much mixed up. DYBAD (talk) 03:03, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

Event Manipulation
Based on what is said in the page, I would say yes: It could be used to change events in other dimensions/realities/universes. Of course, 'can' doesn't necessarily translate to it being easy so that kind of mastery, to reach other realities, could be rare. Just remember that if you plan on using the power in a work, it's really all up to how you interpret it. For a writer, the powers listed here are foundations and not entirely set in stone. (MrTibTibs (talk) 06:10, December 8, 2013 (UTC))

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Physics Manipulation controls how energy and matter operate according to physical laws. No matter how powerful the force, a force still abide by form of physical rule to exist within reality. Physics Manipulation controls those rules and to an extent the force itself.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 17:30, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

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Correct. Physics Manipulation has a very indirect manner of affecting matter and energy.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 23:19, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

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Unfortunately, I don't have time to answer any more of your questions right now. I will give you answer later.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 23:31, December 8, 2013 (UTC)

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Physics Manipulation can indirectly control energy or matter indirectly by either:

A. Controlling the physical laws of light and waves and how they progress over the elecrtromagnetic spectrum

B. Controlling the physical laws of matter under a given setting and how it reacts under specific forces such as levels of gravity and force

Physics Manipulation cannot directly control matter or energy such as actively turning one energy form into another or turning one form of matter into another.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 02:01, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

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It can affect how sound travels in an environment and what sound can affect but that's about it. It cannot affect molecules or particles directly, only how they may behave in an environment.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 14:27, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes,. It can't affect matter or energy directly (creation is an act that involves affecting matter by giving it existence).Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 17:03, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

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Physics Manipulation affects sound by controlling how it can be transmitted in an environment and physical properties such as wavelength and travel. Physics Manipulation can indirectly nullify sound by making it follow different physical laws in an environment (i.e. render it so sound cannot travel through air).Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 23:03, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

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In that case, yes, it controls the physical laws of force and physical movement in an environment by controlling gravitational laws on objects.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 04:18, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

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I suggest a stone that involves the manipulation of Nothingness and the emptiness by which all existence sprung forth. Something along the lines of a "Void Stone".Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 00:53, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

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Everything you listed basically encompasses what is believed to be everything that runs the universe according to human ideas. I listed Void to indeed act as the opposite of what you listed and the antithesis of all that exists to grant the same God-Level status as the Infinity Gems you based your idea on.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 01:38, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

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Indeed. If you used at their fullest potential in whatever story you are making and with the proper knowledge and experience.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 01:48, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

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I really can't think of a power the seventh stone could possess. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful Gabriel456 (talk) 21:43, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

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I guest it would be Body Stone.

We have Space / Time, Matter / Energy and Life / Spirit, all associated by pair. Mind seems too close to Spirit to me, and its Body counterpart woul also be too close to Life, so the whole pair needs reworking. Hard to imagine a fitting fourth though, I must say the three you found form pretty much a complete circle. The only valid pair I can think of would be Creation / Destruction, the Yin/Yang center of the circle, from which things come and return to. It wouldn't control any element, but could bring them into existence or remove them, which is utimately the greatest power of all. Hope that helps. DYBAD (talk) 06:08, December 18, 2013 (UTC)

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Maybe Death. The opposite to your Life/Spirit stone and an extremely dangerous and corruptive power. Just a thought. -William slattery (talk) 01:38, December 21, 2013 (UTC)

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Indeed, if it is not tied to the Time Stone in any way, then it would be suitable.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 05:22, December 25, 2013 (UTC)

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I don't have time to answer any more questions right now. I actually made a mistake when I referred to the Time Gem,. I meant Reality Gem.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 19:37, December 25, 2013 (UTC)

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well  since you have space-time, energy and matter,  a mind gem and a life stone. that pretty makes you nigh omnipotent, but i would reccomend a reality warping gem or a death gem or maybe a gem that gives you immunity to everything like omnilock. or maybe a gem that makes you absolutly unbeatable

Dr solar (talk) 00:28, December 26, 2013 (UTC)drsolar

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At the moment, yes.

First Answer: The Chance Stone and the Time Stone you proposed would be tied together through cases involving controlling occurrences in the timestream and the choices and odds of events occurring within various streams of time.

Second Answer: A Chance Stone would work by controlling the probability of occurrences coming into existence and bringing whatever choice or occurrence into reality simply by the user controlling the odds of something occurring. \

Third Answer: Yes, even with this stone, it would still be able to allow for Omnipotence with the other stones. In fact if it already did not allow Omnipotence, it certainly would with the addition of the Chance Stone.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 03:20, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

sorry, I have no clue how to answer that question, I'm really not sure if it could or not Gabriel456 (talk) 22:54, December 28, 2013 (UTC)

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First Answer: No it can't make the impossible happen, that's what the Reality Stone is for.

Second Answer: No, it doesn't alter physical laws.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 05:18, December 29, 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, with the Matter and Space Stones, the Chance Stone should be able to make spectactes that you or other human beings would find impossible or is actually physically impossible occur.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 16:25, December 29, 2013 (UTC)

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No, it just affects the odds of events occurring and consequentially affects decisions. It should not be able to directly influence the mind.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 17:59, December 29, 2013 (UTC)

Probability Manipulation
Just as it says on the page, users can also create a 'pocket' that has a reality-disrupting force that allows for stuff like that to happen. Other than that, it could be a multitude of things a user can do to have that effect (i.e. changing the probability of extreme wind blowing the object back to 100%). (MrTibTibs (talk) 03:55, December 30, 2013 (UTC))

That's exactly what PM does. Interesting and immersive, but very limited by momentary contexts, which is why I created Meta Probability Manipulation, which unlocks the full power of probabilities. DYBAD (talk) 21:22, December 30, 2013 (UTC)

It does, that's what makes it limited. DYBAD (talk) 21:26, December 30, 2013 (UTC)

It's a bit more complicated. Probabilities are not only the abstract expression of potential outcomes, but also an inherent part of all phenomena (a phenomenon's potentialities are determined by its characteristics, which are also constantly changing - according to probabilities). So we can theoretically separate probabilities from phenomena, but in practice they are indissociable, just like you can't separate "mass" or "speed" from the object they apply to.

DYBAD (talk) 00:27, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

Phenomena means both "ongoing events" and "existing objects". Reality is a work in progress, nothing is truly solid or remotely permanent. Objects are events in themselves, only with narrow and stabilized probabilities allowing them to preserve a certain level of integrity for a certain duration. And so are we. DYBAD (talk) 00:56, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

All existing things are by nature ongoing events, so at its ultimate peak, (Meta) Probability Manipulation can indeed manipulate everything. DYBAD (talk) 01:24, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome ^ ^ DYBAD (talk) 01:32, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

I meant "momentary" instead of "mometary" (temporary). DYBAD (talk) 02:14, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think so. Too complicated and high-level for basic PM. DYBAD (talk) 02:28, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that seems what Probability Manipulation is all about. DYBAD (talk) 02:34, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

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My apologies, I meant "Spectacles". Yes, Meta Probability Manipulation would be an ability that would/could be utilized by the Chance Stone, but it doesn't directly affect matter or energy. It doesn't change the shape or form of matter directly, but it does affect how it will behave or react in a present situation. By the way, don't listen to the fool who says objects are events.The very idea of an object being in itself an idealized event is preposterous. Objects are the results of events. You wouldn't say a shirt or a lamp is an event, would you? No. Though the atoms that constitutes the matter.object be creating atomic events, the object as a whole is unchanging and produces no sign of being in itself an event. Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 20:18, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

To answer you're question, it can happen for all 3 at the same time or separate.RnR (talk) 23:54, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

That sounds like an event, so it should be possible. As long at it is a unique a coherent package at a given time, that's an event. Main limit is that events are based on circumstances, so there has to be a reasonable probability of it happening before activating the power. DYBAD (talk) 02:03, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

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That actually depends on the user. If the user has enough skill to rig circumstances leading up the moment where an event is supposed to change by having a natural disaster occur as a result of the user's meddling, then yes. New users or novices with little experience wouldn't be able to do so.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 03:22, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

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By "rig" I meant manipulate or alter. The user alters events by changing the culminatng factors leading to those events in either a grand or specific manner. Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 22:17, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

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Indeed, that is what I meant.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 22:27, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

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They could, but that would depend on the event. The more dramatic the event, the more the user would have to change. They could create instantaneous events that require little effort to start simply by thought alone, but more dramatic events would require more effort.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 00:13, January 13, 2014 (UTC)

Events are tied to circumstances. To manipulate events is to bend circumstances in specific directions, within the limits said circumstances allow. DYBAD (talk) 02:13, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Well, the events you want to induce must have a credible chance of happening given the context. For example, if you drop a coin on the ground, it can fall on one side, on the other, or possibly on the edge. It doesn't stop in the air mid-fall. DYBAD (talk) 06:38, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

I don't have enough knowledge in this field to give you an accurate example. Some areas are much more prone than others to earthquakes and landsides, while others virtually never know them (well, as far as humans can remember). DYBAD (talk) 20:59, January 14, 2014 (UTC)

Probability Manipulation does just that : it manipulates probabilities ^ ^ DYBAD (talk) 00:53, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

No offense, but these endless questions are becoming tiring. DYBAD (talk) 01:00, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Off course I'd say that eventually ^ ^; I'm not a computer, and I'm running out of answers anyway. Basically, manipulating events is making things that have a realistic chance of happening effectively happen.

Think about a spinning casino roulette : the ball can end un in any square, but not one that isn't there. Past that, you'll need precise data for each specific case to know if it's realistically possible. DYBAD (talk) 01:18, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much ^ ^ DYBAD (talk) 01:28, January 15, 2014 (UTC)