Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-27219819-20151118082947/@comment-28898344-20151122162014

SageM wrote: Definitions are the end all be all of everything, they are the fundamental source from which everything is based on, including the concept of change and even absolute change. as such Definition Manipulation is the fundamental source of every power on this wiki, even absolute change is nothing more then an aspect or fraction of its power. Definitions rule everything. after all the only reason why change exists is because its defined that way. if it wasn't defined then change wouldn't and couldn't exist.

Its as simple as that. Okay, do you and the no limits fallacy have a secret relationship? Are you two engaged or something? Anyway, definitions are most definitely not the fundamental source of everything. Even if we didn't know what gravity was (didn't have a definition for it), we would have a vague idea of how it worked. Does gravity exist because it was defined? No, it exists independent of our definitions, we just give it one to understand it better. Does change exist because it was defined? No, things are going to change whether we define what change is or not. Does the universe exist because it was defined? NO, we don't know why it exists, but it existed far before the concept of definition. Concept Manipulation and Defitinion Manipulation are basically the same, just different targets. Concepts just seem to predate Definitions.

Since you seem to be parroting the same things over and over again, I find it far more efficient to just debunk your essential argument here, if I haven't already done so above or in my other comment.

Your argument seems to boil down to: "Omnipotence is defined by something and DM can manipulate definitions, so DM can rek Omnipotence" (Same goes for the logic you seem so fond of twisting; Okay, no more ad hominems for me.) What you are going here is known as a Strawman Fallacy. You're going after the fact that Omnipotence was defined by us humans as a way to take it down easier. But, you're ignoring Omnipotence's other qualities. In doing so, you're being intellectually dishonest. Your sophistry ends here, SageM. It is  universal fact  that nothing can defeat or surpass Omnipotence. I'm beginning to suspect that you're a fan of Lionel Suggs line of thinking. If you're not familiar with him, he believes that there are stages and levels of Omnipotence and that it can be surpassed. Also, Omnipotence was meant to be ineffable, incomprehenisbly powerful. So applying your "logic" is a wasted effort.

Good day.