Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-38425291-20190212034417/@comment-27077671-20190309175445

SalvationBringer wrote: So one omnipotent being is able to take omnipotence from another omnipotent being? Or can another prevent it if if wants? Even if it is simply inapplicable, and those are the same being, they are the same absolute. So what makes it impossible to have this absolute without omnipotence? Then it's the same. The same as if one omnipotent being tries to take power from another. And if you think these are different cases, take my example of taking the power of nigh-omnipotent being with only one limitation and it is NOT about ability of retaining its power, in everything else being equivalent to omnipotence. Yes and yes. If you haven't got it the first time, there will be no time I ever say no to these omnipotent arguments because saying no implies a limitation, which immediately debunks omnipotence into nigh-omnipotence. by 'taking away' the omnipotence from the being, it is no longer omnipotent to begin with, so the absolutes do not match up anyways. You're still trying to bring up 'if one omnipotent being takes power from another' as if there can be two separate omnipotents, when that's not the case and an omnipotent is everything and everything is the omnipotent.

You say omnipotence can destroy the absolute. But look at this: by absolute I mean the same thing which makes an omnipotent being undefeatable. So saying omnipotence can destroy the absolute is the same as saying that omnipotence can beat an omnipotent being. All beings have that kind of absolute only they are not omnipotent and they can be destroyed but the possiblity of persisting though anything can't be taken by anything without effort. And you can't nullify that effort no matter how much powerful you are. Not even omnipotence can nullify it. Because it's the same absolute as omnipotence itself. Welcome to the world of nonduality, where things can/can't/both-can/neither-can happen. It's completely possible for beings like an omnipotent. There is no such thing as 'effort' that transcends omnipotence when the very defintion of omnipotence says, and I quote: "without the slightest effort." The moment an omnipotent has to exert effort is the moment that it is no longer omnipotence. Well you don't believe that we all have that absolute because you're one of the pathless. You don't need proof for that, you just change your fate. You don't depend on reality. You don't depend on facts. You are higher than that. That is what you can't understand. What's hilarious is your ignorance into calling someone 'pathless' because you have no actual debunk. Now you're just committing ad hominems. As I've already explained in my previous comment, you admitted to claiming to be able to 'change fate' and 'be higher than reality' is considered supernatural powers. So your point crumbles like a cookie. Well and maniputating principles doesn't mean outright ignoring others. Well if someone wants to manipulate that my "principle" (it's not even a principle the same way that omnipotence isn't actually infinity), I refuse to be subjected to that. Yes, and omnipotent can outright ignore all other principles considering that they transcend everything. You can refuse all you want, nothing isn't going to change just because you want to refuse your principle being manipulated. Your choices don't matter. Yeah omnipotence is not bounded by ended existence. But! You can't just say "I have omnipotence so I have all you have and more". Well I challenge that. I want something unique and I get it because that's what I want. Because I'm not bounded by you. However if it's the "End" then I am and I can't and it's like you describe. That's what I meant. Not being bounded or anything. That'd be exactly what you could say. Just because you want to 'challenge it' would mean absolutely nothing. You're still assuming omnipotence is bounded by something to begin with.

An omnipotent could give two shits if you were an omnilock being, because they do what they want.