Talk:Causality Manipulation/@comment-38665804-20190603113831/@comment-24053170-20200118202115

Oblivion was stated by the actual staff members to be beyond everything in the marvel multiverse.

When someone asked about the First Firmament being one with everything, they asked if that includes things that were outside of the marvel multiverse/omniverse.

And they stated that the First Firmament is just and older version of eternity/multi-eternity, and anything that exists outside of it or transcends eternity would also be outside of FF.

Which means that Oblivion is beyond the marvel multiverse.

I'm not sure what more evidence you really need. as both the comics and the writers have confirmed Oblivions place and role in the formation of the Marvel Multiverse.

There isn't any evidence to really back up the claim about the TOAA doing so, especially when you consider that Oblivion already stated all this long before the TOAA was even a concept/idea posed by the writers and it was never retconned even after the introduction of the TOAA,

Considering that Oblivion always claims the multiverse in the end, he doesn't really need to get involved in any reality destroying events.

Since why would he bother? It was originally all his in the first place. Its his role in the grand scheme of things as both the Anti-God and origin point of existence.

And there are some examples that do show life emerging from the infinite void that is the basis for Oblivion (with his aspect the Chaos King).

So its not really a stretch that he is the origin point. I'm sorry if you can't accept the information provided. But the point does stand firmly on Oblivions side of things.