Talk:Metaphysics Manipulation/@comment-187.35.231.152-20121027142224/@comment-4867780-20121101121313

Despite it&apos;s interesting impersonality, Ein Sof/Ayin is still a creationist conceptual system, because humans have a linear perception of existence based on their own (birth =&gt; life =&gt; death). They can imagine something end-less (birth without death), but not something beginning-less (life without birth). The expression "the beginning of time" is very revealing of this perceptive limitation (as if time could "begin"... no, it just pass ^ ^).

The Swirl of Origins is a bit different, and very similar to reality : something cyclical, without beginning nor end, ever existing and ever changing. "Everything" always existed, and "Everything" always will. But "Everything" is forever changing, and we cannot perceive the globality, so things seem to "start" and "end". But all they actually do is changes. We just don&apos;t like what follows nearly as much ^ ^