Talk:Logic Manipulation/@comment-24235345-20160901205730/@comment-29564364-20170914195056

@SageM "Rain and Not rain at the same time- Any time the forecast calls for Partly Clearing, as it is capable of raining and not raining at the same time. I have also seen it rain when there are no clouds in the sky and the sun is shining." Raining and not raining at the same time is perfectly possible since there are some places on Earth where it rain and others where it doesn't. However, if you meant in a specific area, then raining and not raining at the same time in the same place breaks the law of non contradiction, therefore is impossible. Whether there are clouds or not in the sky is not part of rain's definition, so raining in the absence of clouds is not impossible. This is especially true for the Sun's presence in the sky as demonstrated each time it rains during the night. Also, personal anecdotes are not evidence.

"Square and a circle at the same time? Its been done before, in fact its possible for such a shape to exist in nature." A circle is the set of all the points in a plane that are at equal distance from a given point. A square is a geometric figure with four sides of equal length of which the four interior angles measure 90°. Now get a pencil, a compas, a triangle and a gridded sheet and try to draw a shape that fits both definitions. You'll soon find that it's impossible since such a shape would violate the law of non contradiction.

"God and Human at the same time? Jesus Christ was both fully god and fully human at the same time, and of course there are demi-gods." That has yet to be proven and the depending on the one you pick, some definitions of "god" and "man" are not contradictory, meaning that a being that is both would not break the law of non contradiction.

"Also, all our various scientific laws and rules only apply to our little corner of the galaxy, everything outside of our solar system and outside of the galaxy does not care for or even follow any of the laws we consider to be unbreakable." Then how come distant celestial bodies in our and other galaxies billions of light years away also behave as predicted by our model base on those laws?

"Plus scientists here on earth have already broken a law thats said to be completely fundamental and impossible to break. they reached a temperature below absolute zero. Sorry but logic means nothing in the grand scheme of things." I remain unconvinced. Mind providing a source?