Talk:Meta Magic/@comment-5946702-20140428065006/@comment-4867780-20140428211729

I wasn't talking about the Shonen genre as a whole, many of them are very good and have much more reasonable outcomes. Ichigo and Naruto for example have lost quite a few times, though the Bleach getting more and more asspullish (see the last chapter's conclusion).

I'm talking about the sub-genre where "plot armor" means "invincible" and the heroes losing is unacceptable. This one is clearly aimed at a younger audience (not ready for such a thing), or an audience that grew up without maturing, and is stil at the "denial of reality" level.