Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-27219819-20151118082947/@comment-27243753-20151122160641

Azrael, the King of Death wrote: Okay, this isn't even an argument. Omnipotence's very nature is unbeatable, all-powerful, and above logic itself. It could create something larger than infinity, smaller than nothingness, make logic its bitch, do anything. Definition Manipulation has the potential to be omnipotent, but surpass it? This isn't a Lionel Suggs novel where something can surpass omnipotence, the pinnacle of power. Let's take this for example:

Imagine an infinite hierarchy in the form of a pyramid. The higher you go up, the more powerful you are. Now, as it is a pyramid, it naturally has a vertex at the very top. That apex is omnipotence and everything below is just chasing its shadow, a futile attempt.

But, I digress. Let's address the sheer sophistry that SageM has been pushing.

SageM wrote: Omnipotence isn't have every power, omnipotence just means your all powerful, having every power would be complete arsenal. Complete Arsenal is listed as "A form/expression of Omnipotence". And besides, what's stopping an omnipotent being from having every power? Nothing.

SageM wrote:

And you can't counter definition manipulation. As the nature of the power prevents it.

Besides Meta Power Manipulation clearly listed the manipulation of OMNIPOTENT abilities. and definition manipulation is a sub power. thus they would be able to effect it. Omnipotence doesn't have to counter anything. An omnipotent being wouldn't even be fazed by a user of Definition Manipulation's feeble attempts to manipulate it. Secondly, you're twisting the definition of words, like your favorite power. Omnipotent Abilities denote a group of powers with the potential to be omnipotent or its variations. Definition Manipulation could take down some of the abilities listed here. And, it being a sub-power does not make it just like Meta Power Manipulation. A sub-power is just something is intrinsically part of the main ability.

SageM wrote: No, as that would be a limitation. and the powers very nature prevents it from having limitations.

SageM wrote: No its not, since it can change omnipotence to something else, none of the other powers on the site can do that. its a sub-power of meta power manipulation since it can effect every other power on the wiki, Omnipotence can only provide defense against every other power, it says nothing about changing them all. SageM, the first quote shows your obvious bias towards Definition Manipulation. Secondly, you're providing a premise but no evidence. Big sin in logic, isn't it? Second quote:

Since when could Omnipotence only provide a defense and not be able to manipulate/change all powers. Meta Power Manipulation is a sub-power of Omnipotence. Going by your logic above, since Omnipotence has Meta Power Manipulation has a sub-power, which has Definition Manipulation as a sub-power, Omnipotence has Definition Manipulation AND Meta Power Manipulation and can change all powers. Also, Omnipotence can't changed by anything or anyone. You can thank its sub-power Meta Power Manipulation, among other things, for that. (DM is already a sub-power of Omnipotence, as is Meta Power Manipulation; just wanted you to show your logic at work)

SageM wrote: Lets just say that in the grand scheme of things, its the only power that would fit as being above omnipotence and the other powers on this wiki, and leave it at that.

does that satisfy you? You're kidding me, right? You have to be kidding me. (What? You asked if it satisfied me.)

There will be a comment after this one, so please do expect more rebuttals. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This :)