Talk:Transcendent Nephalem Physiology/@comment-33797416-20180628072758/@comment-30766268-20180721134307

TonySansNom - as of what you said, there is a japanese manga called ao no exorcist, or "blue exorcist".

the story revolves around the antichrsit, the son of satna, who learns to become an exorcist to kill his father, because he hates him.

according to the lore of this serise, the "demons" comes form a different dimension, and "satan" is not a demon per se, rather the consiousness of the entire dimension, who became a being of his own only later in the interactions between the two races, humans and the other beings, and because of his immense power, he is called satan.

at some point, rin, the protagonist, fights against a powerful demon, and recive the power of another demon, but which looks like an angel.

when he asks him why doe she looks like an angel, if he is a demon, the begin answer to him that they are all the same, the sons of that dimension, and it's just the humans who decided to point at one ground and call it angels, and another group and call it demons.

this is one of the few stories I have read that actually properlly depicted this concept, of them being the same kind of being, just different elighnment, and that the humans are just those who call them in different names.

as of what you said about the name, this is something that always annoyed me:

nephilim means fallen in hebrew, and it should be used to refer fallen angels, not the sons of angels and humans, if they still remain "holy" by doing so. the first time the concept of "nephilim" appeared in the bible was in the story of noah, in whcih it was said that the giants and the nephilim mated with the humans, and gave birth to their spawns.

honestly, most people and researches just assume it means that people of royalty, judges, militery officers, and rich people, who were supposed to be models for society, raped and commited crime, and as such were "nephilim", or fell from their hight, and they were refered to giants because of their influence over society.

yet people in later years took it to mean that nephilim are fallen angels.

alright, fair enough, but then they decided it is the names of the childs of angels and humans, while both angels and humans remain divine.

if they fall from grace, they cannot remain divine.

this is something I always found ticking and annoying.

I am not religous, I hate religion, but if someone is trying to make a power based on religion, at least said person should do the research around it.

and let\s not mention the name nephalem.

there is absolutey no source for that name.

it seems like the one who came up with it just took the word nephilim, and thought to himself how to maybe change it a bit to make it sounds cooler.