Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-26993961-20170601153518/@comment-30766268-20170601214912

Holokami+Oriana Anima  -

Sorry if we (me) frusturated you.

I understand your point.

yet, couple of things:

1. yes, we do use this "lame excuse", since if those entitys are omnipotent, then omnipotent have limits.

2. saying omnipotence stand on aleph null otomathicly put it above everything. the fact that things like aleph 1 exist does not mean it's not limitless, and not something absolute. infinity kind of make logic screwy.

can you argue that the effect of an omnipotent being would be diferent if that being would be on aleph null? meaning, it would have infinite amount of powers, every each one on an infinite, unreachable level, which would be infinitly great then everything in the verse of this being together? sounds to me just like omnipotence.

3. well, if we go by human logic, it seems people decided omnipotent beings can't creat an omnipotent being. it is possible, by definition, but it seems indeed that this is another flew humans mostly can't grasp.

and I never said he can't achived something. but let us look at that from the no logic point, not from physics, or metaphysics (which the concept of magic, divinity and omnipotence IS part of metaphysics), rather lets look at that from the no logic sceneryo, 'pataphysics:

if logic does not apply, and it's transcendent above it, isn't the basic logic of "there is nothing higher then that", is essentially worthless?

don't you think that the moment oyu break logic, then the logical explanation ibecome pointless, and have no meaning anymore?