User talk:ChocolateElemental

When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edit mess up the collapsed Galleries and you're one of them.

If you remove from Gallery, then remove from Users. And vice versa of course. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:20, September 21, 2017 (UTC)

No worries, you aren't the first one. :) --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:13, September 22, 2017 (UTC)

When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edits mess the collapsed Galleries and you're one of them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:39, September 27, 2017 (UTC)

When you add to Gallery, make sure they are in Users too.

Yes Discord has transformed into balloon, he's also full-blown shapeshifter. Bit pointless to add him to all minor powers he has. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:48, September 27, 2017 (UTC)

'''When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edits mess the collapsed Galleries and you're one of them.''' --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:18, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

It's something that could be wider problem with collapsed Galleries. I've contacted Community Central about it, but you know how slow that goes... --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:05, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

As a site we had that argument at some point already, can't remember what was said but the result it that Reality Warping Power hasn't been in Categories. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:26, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Since it's so important to you, go ahead and add it to all Forms of magic. And I mean all of them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:54, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

No. Go ahead, it isn't exactly just some few pages after all. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:45, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

I said Form of Magic, not every page with magic in it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:46, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

I'd say you haven't even started with Category:Form of magic.

As for other pages (after Fom), check if the have Reality Warping/it's Variations as part of the power, those are Reality Manipulations, if they don't have it, they aren't. But please don't add it to various pantheons as that depends on whether the User taps on whole pantheon or just one of the deities. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:58, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edits mess the collapsed Galleries and you're one of them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:25, October 7, 2017 (UTC)

All powers work differently in every verse (just take a look at how magic is defined/described in various comics, films, games, etc.), so especially with something like RW, which by definition goes beyond what can be done in real life, giving specific on what happens under the hood is better left alone. Any explanation will either be verse-specific (ie. works like that in this verse) or best ques on how it would work in RL. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:32, October 8, 2017 (UTC)

You and Furrytopia have to talk and agree which form of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic is the right one, you two have been switching it regularly. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:41, October 9, 2017 (UTC)

When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edits mess the collapsed Galleries and you're one of them. Third warning.

Just checking if you've finished adding Reality Manipulation to all Forms of Magic? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:43, October 17, 2017 (UTC)

OK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:18, October 17, 2017 (UTC)

As long as they don't age after certain point, they got it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:40, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

... what... ? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:18, November 1, 2017 (UTC)

When you add to Users, series should be in italics. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:39, November 1, 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry. After hearing that argument so many times in the past, it just irks me when people use it now. I apologize for being a bit antagonistic, but past experiences with this crap has made me irritable about it.

But again, I do apologize. I just want to move past this.Gabriel456 (talk) 20:49, November 10, 2017 (UTC)

Depends of the Users power levels, but certainly on higher levels. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:19, November 12, 2017 (UTC)

It just didn't seem accurate.

Supernatural Powers would also encompass Divine and Magic abilities which is generally out of the range of "Mutants" from what I've seen.

Generally their abilities range from Physical Enhancement (ex. Enhanced Condition or Regenerative Healing Factor to Psychic Abilities (ex. Telekinesis and Telepathy) which is more accurate in that regard.

Homo Magi covers the Magic side while Homo Superior covers the more "Scientific" side if you can catch my drift.

Take for example the series A Certain Magical Index where there are the Espers and there are the Mages, they are separate in their abilities' natures.

Hope that explains my reasons for removing that. CrabHermit (talk) 22:14, November 13, 2017 (UTC)

So is it Max Eisenhardt or Erik Lensherr, cause the second one is on few pages? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:45, December 10, 2017 (UTC)

Might want to change the ones with the wrong name then. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:44, December 11, 2017 (UTC)

I've run into same problem few times. When it's the only User available, it really isn't amusing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:16, December 12, 2017 (UTC)

When you add to Gallery, make sure they are in Users too.

?Despite? her strength as a Pony, Pinkie Pie (My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic) can stomp the ground with her hooves, causing a shockwave. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:45, December 21, 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome. --Chris Urena (talk) 19:15, December 28, 2017 (UTC)

Mainly to keep pages reaching ridiculous lengths. You wouldn't believe how messed up it got before that rule was written down. Consider how long some pages we have now and add few layers to that...

Second reason is that since adding link to page means that by default everything that power includes comes with it, adding specific powers is bit pointless. Unless there's a very good reason why specific power needs to be explained/expanded. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:45, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

You have suggestions? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:07, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

Pretty good and pretty original without going for the overpowered. Clear and easily understandable too which is always bonus. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:32, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Death Inducement kills your body, period. Full stop biological cessation without error.

What happens after that has nothing to do with the power and depends of the verse/system dealing with souls and if other forces do something about the target. So you can be resurrected, reincarnated or just go to your rewards/punishment. --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:11, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

I don't think you can make power out of it, but have you considered world/character-creation? We have few members who have created quite extensive ones on their own use. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:42, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

Preferably no. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:53, January 5, 2018 (UTC)

Rules are added as demand for them appears, basically if something is written there it's because we had reason to make the point. Pretty much like any/all laws really. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:29, January 6, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:52, January 12, 2018 (UTC)

More of a special effect than power really. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:50, January 17, 2018 (UTC)

In other words, special effects for other powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:56, January 17, 2018 (UTC)

Been tried to some extend, it doesn't really work. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:28, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

Because it hasn't worked for as long as this site has been up and it won't work in future, reasons have varied but most come to not being bothered to go ahead with it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:52, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

Preferably no. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:05, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

What do you mean? I didn't really say anything about the Benders from Avatar so I really don't get your question. CrabHermit (talk) 23:13, January 24, 2018 (UTC)

Only difference to normal humans is ability to learn how to bend. They don't get that automatically. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:32, January 25, 2018 (UTC)

There doesn't really seem to be better option, so go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:44, January 25, 2018 (UTC)

When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edits mess the collapsed Galleries and you're one of them. Second warning. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:26, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

No need to change the rule. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:07, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

Just because the Superpower wiki page has its own definition of metahuman, that doesn’t make the DCAU definition any less true. Also, interviews are irrelevant since the DCAU is its own universe completely separate from the mainstream comics with its own definition for certain terms.RnR (talk) 14:55, February 8, 2018 (UTC)

Done.

Don't know id members can use it, but at least for admins there's Replace that allows you to change the pic. Much easier option than loading new one and then replacing all the pics when you find better version. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:41, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

It has happened few times. I don't mind if it's better version of same pic, but when they load something completely different over a good pic... --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:09, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

As long as it doesn't start a flood of meta emotion inducements, pretty good. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, February 22, 2018 (UTC)

Your welcome Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

no problem

Slapson (talk) 23:24, March 20, 2018 (UTC)

There's a reason why we don't allow too specific animal powers, just slap water breathing/aquatic adaptation to Superpowered Physiology or any higher Human Physiology Variations and you're golden. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:30, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

Go with the new Also Called, SP seems to be about humanoids in general considering the number of aliens on it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, March 31, 2018 (UTC)

Powers (which are confirmed) first, then the definite Limitations and after that the "may". --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:34, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Idea is good but "Confirmed" doesn't sound quite right. Fixed maybe? Basic? Base?

That said, I think we should keep the separate sections on the pages with most Limitations. Something like 5-8 really doesn't need them.

Any ideas why some of your Edits leave empty lines on Limitations? It isn't that common but... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, April 5, 2018 (UTC)

Right...

First the powers that directly oppose the power without exceptions (anti-magic etc. in Magic and so on) and thus don't have any text, then the ones that tell what the power doesn't do, including the ones with powers in them. The same with the second section. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:54, April 5, 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure I follow... Every other page has the exact same template for Limitations, and I see nothing of Kuo saying you should have "Essential" and "Optional" Limitations, technically it already goes into that detail without those separations appearing.

There is good reason why "may" is used rather than other words as that covers the "Optional" whereas any weakness that is obvious such as "Magic has a price" is "Essential", I think that is why Kuo made the changes to Page Creation and Details to have the confirmed weaknesses on top and the "perhaps" weaknesses on the bottom. CrabHermit (talk) 00:32, April 8, 2018 (UTC)

Do TF2 Freak characters have enhanced mind as well? Because if they don't, they should go to Enhanced Body instead of Enhanced Condition. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:50, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

So that's "yes, they belong to Enhanced Body"? Because if it is, are you going to move them or should I do it? --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:21, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

Gallery => Users. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:46, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

While their power is incalculable, it isn't absolute. I forgot what comic it was, but the celestials even talked about different dimensions making people uncountably above them others, despite their 'seemingly' infinite power. As for Strength Infinitum, the problem is that you can't have one if you have the other. Strength Infinitum needs your power to be limited so you can continue growing stronger. Absolute Strength gives you infinite power, and once you reach that there is nothing beyond you can go. That's why I believe a lot of the characters on that page are up there for inaccurate reasons.

16:56, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

I understand that you want to make it clear in the limitations what users can and can't do with the "Essential" and "Optional" but too many pages are built the same way that it would legitimately be considered "personal" edits to the pages, that is unless you are planning on editing every page on the wiki to have Optional and Essential.

I would please request you stop adding those additions to the pages as it can be confusing to new people on the wiki who are planning on making powers. CrabHermit (talk) 19:35, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Right... Kuo can say anything about the situation but we have way to many pages as it is to make the changes you are deciding to make.

Even if he agrees, unless you plan on editing 9,000+ pages for your changes to limitations, it shouldn't really be occurring in random pages you decided to edit.

Either you go through with it 100% or don't, really simple. CrabHermit (talk) 19:53, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

7a. If you change the name, it's your job to change the links for that power. Here's the list. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:39, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

'''7a. If you change the name, it's your job to change the links for that power. Here's the list. ''' --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:56, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

1) which is why I'm allowing you the change to fix those links instead of just undoing the name-change.

2) you asked about my opinion about the Limitations, I told it and changed Page Creation and Details to reflect that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:30, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

Third time: '''7a. If you change the name, it's your job to change the links for that power. Here's the list.''' Go to list given => go to the pages there => change the link to the page you renamed to current one => repeat until there's no old links = profit.

I'm returning the page to it's previous name unless this happens when you get active next time. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, April 19, 2018 (UTC)

Too specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

It does one very specific/limited thing, is essentially two powers slapped together and verse-specific. Just add them to both of those pages and mention the other part. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:48, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

1) literally just two powers stacked together 2) verse specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:38, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

You're focusing only on the first part...

Can you expand the idea beyond the verse-only concept into something broader? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Oh OK, feel free to change it back to being a variation of Modified Physiology then. CrabHermit (talk) 16:49, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Never mind, I got it. CrabHermit (talk) 16:52, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Not really sure. He only technically appears in character in a single episode, as his only other appearances are cameos.

So its not exactly possible to judge him based on how little screen time he received.SageM (talk) 21:03, April 29, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Not a valid reason to remove them.
Thats not how it works. The Childlike Empress embodies neutrality, which means she is a user of BOTH pages. Not simpy one or the other.

Please don't remove users from pages if thats what your basing this on. Also if you actually bothered to check, several embodiment users are also on their omni morality pages as well.

So your point in removing them is not valid.SageM (talk) 18:47, May 1, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Sorry. Sometimes most people/users don't realize there mistakes even after its been explained to them, so if I came across as being blunt I apologize.

Since I deal with other users like that on other wikias, I usually end up having to be blunt to get the point across. SageM (talk) 19:06, May 1, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Most undead are templates to be added to living beings. If you make animal zombie, it doesn't suddenly turn into human. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:06, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Or possibly add it to Also Called and mention it's for human vampires/zombies/whatever. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:45, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

I unlocked the page (I honestly forgot to, orginally locked it because a user kept changing the applications despite being warned not to) so you can edit that in now.

Thanks for reminding me, I don't think I would've remembered if you didn't message me :p Gabriel456 (talk) 16:33, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Potentially yes, depends of the individual of course. Certainly worth adding to Associations with explanation at least. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:28, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Point, bit of a brain fart there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:42, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry but I am just doing my job, you can try to make another power for others to enjoy Imouto 13:52, May 7, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Kuo and another user made a list of powers that needed to be deleted, so now I am deleting these such pages from the list. Imouto 15:49, May 7, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

I like the powers too but they are overly specific for their respective species Imouto 17:07, May 7, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

There are days when I can't understand why anyone would want to be Admin... --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:45, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

I know, it doesn't make the shitty days easier. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:55, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

Ooo-kay, I'm pretty sure we're not talking about same thing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:31, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

" Anyways, why do you think Future Zeno and Zamasu are omnineutral? What do you think? Don't get me wrong though, Zamasu of all forms are actually of the alignment neutral evil, I'm just curious. ChocolateElemental(talk) 14:25, May 6, 2018 (UTC)"

I don't think future Zeno nor Zamasu are omnineutral. Zamasu thought he was a hero, and Zeno saw the destruction of the world, and deemed it terrible. There was also Zeno's test at the end of the tournament of power. He would erase existence if the wish wasn't an unselfish wish of ressurecting everyone, but a selfish wish. DeathstroketheHedgehog(talk) 14:25, May 6, 2018 (UTC)"

Yes, that was the test. It was later clarified by Grand Priest to be the test. He wanted  the winner to ask to ressurect the other universes rather than be greedy. Of course the fighting was fun, but that was just for the Zenos' entertainment. The test was the wish.

I know using wikis are usually a bad source of info, but...

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Zeno

"It is also stated by Great [Priest] that Zeno would otherwise have erased all universes if the winner had wished for selfish reasons as this would have shown that the winning universe was no better than the erased ones."

13:26, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

Rules of This Wiki: "25. Before creating absolute/meta/omni-powers, get approval of Admin/mod, first step is to explain how it isn't "just like (power) but more". Any new powers that aren't approved are deleted unless it's something really interesting."

Second: "Check the existing absolute/mega/omni powers and Transcendent Physiology Variations (as those were the ones that kicked this up) for overlaps/duplicates, pages that are pretty much (power)+ without anything more, and in general cleaning up. See if the page can be updated to something usable, similar pages merged and if nothing else works deletion, which I think should be agreed by mods/admins to keep possibly usable pages." Note what the plant for those pages that make the cut is: "See if the page can be updated to something usable, similar pages merged".

Since you're so concerned about your page being deleted, should I take as acknowledgement that it doesn't fill those requirements? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:24, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

So remove the right to comment from members with threat of timeout instead of getting people make something good, that's what you're saying? --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:01, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

The pages that I flagged were actually really good quality. I just think many pages on this site that are similar to each other, for example Transcendent Mage = Transcendent Angelic/Demonic Mage could be merged into one big page.

Its nothing against your pages, we are just doing some housekeeping.

--Death horseman94 (talk) 15:26, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

I have to agree with Dh about the above, they could easily be merged into one page without losing that much. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:31, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

More like Elemental Dragon Physiology in this case I'd say, probably with links to physiologies and physiology specific powers (Angelic Magic etc.). --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:18, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

Might want to talk with Dh about it who seems to have staked the claim.

That said, as a group admins/mods have agreed the decisions will have to be group agreement. We tend to cause waves when taking larger scale solo-actions. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:56, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

I believe subpages are automatically made when a page has enough subheadings, so my idea of merging content would work in your favour by using the method you mentioned. --Death horseman94 (talk) 21:16, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edits mess the page and you're one of them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:04, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks.., -_-; --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:27, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

NM. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:37, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

We'll do our best. And whilst im here, I wanna tell you that all content and your work on the articles we are merging will be copied, so you won't lose a thing in the process (in case thats a concern).

Thanks for the link too! --Death horseman94 (talk) 16:01, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Celestials (Marvel)
According to the wiki and the Marvel Website

"The Celestials are immensely powerful beings, considered by some to be villains (confirmed as such in a few official works, where they have fought heroes and villains alike, they are greatly feared even by a being of Galactus' might - although in others Galactus has engaged and defeated them)."

So I don't feel like the Celestials as a whole should be on Omnineutrality because they are more closely Chaotic Neutral if anything.

Imouto 19:44, May 15, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan (Talk)

As long as you change the links to it, go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, May 29, 2018 (UTC)

7a. If you change the name, it's your job to change the links for that power. Here's the list. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:11, May 31, 2018 (UTC)

... and...? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:20, June 2, 2018 (UTC)

... aaannnddd... this is something I have to know? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:39, June 2, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't notice that comment and I thought about it for a moment and it seems you're right.

Fixing it now, should take a moment...CrabHermit (talk) 19:59, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Text takes more space than pic => ax. FAR more => blunt = nothing but name/series left.

Keep the description/text about what the power is about, not biography/other powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:53, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

That tells nothing that isn't already there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:48, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

There was nothing that wasn't already said on the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:04, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

Preferably not. It'd just go into massive glut on every page as everyone wants to add their own ideas. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:37, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

Keep description short and focused to the power that page is about. No personal history.

Text takes more space than pic => axed. Far more than pic => axed to name/series. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:50, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Please stop using "despite" when someone has power exactly because of the reason you're adding after that. "Commander Bot’s (TF2 Freak) stamina is limitless despite being a Robot, or a Machine Lord to be more precise." makes absolutely no sense. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:01, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Enhanced Conditions aren't "average", don't add that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:32, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Balanced doesn't belong there either. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:33, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Keep description short and focused to the power that page is about. No personal history.
 * Text takes more space than pic = axed text. Ridiculously more = axed to name/series. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:38, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

When you add to Gallery, make sure they are in Users too. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:31, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Keep description short and focused to the power that page is about. No personal history. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

By now everyone has figured out that you fangirl TF2 Freak, but is it really necessary to add every single character to Gallery? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:26, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

Fangirl as in obsess.

No, I don't dislike it. But adding every single character to Gallery is getting to the point that quite a few Galleries have dozens of them. That's bit much.

So please go for a bit more selective with them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:03, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

"So please go for a bit more selective with them." --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:22, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

Adding terms like moderate tells absolutely nothing to those who don't know the series. Please tell what it means in practical terms. Does it mean leaping over a fence? Car? House? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:49, July 20, 2018 (UTC)

If by "possibly" you mean it isn't proven, don't add that part. If it's been done, why is it just "possible"? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:52, July 22, 2018 (UTC)

I've done that when the description is basically "yes, they have this".

Should probably do the same on Enhanced Swordsmanship... --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:29, July 23, 2018 (UTC)

Text takes more space than pic = axed text. Ridiculously more = axed to name/series. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:19, July 25, 2018 (UTC)

Text takes more space than pic = axed text. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:59, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

Because I can't be everywhere or notice things on the pages I haven't seen for a long time. And as I check every Edit, I notice the new ones.

Also because sometimes, no matter how you try, you can reduce the text only so far before losing the point. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:03, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

It isn't effect, it's special effect: little something visible that doesn't in itself do anything. It's like color-coding powers or adding sound-effects: something to make it different and obvious that power is in use. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, August 23, 2018 (UTC)

... you need to ask? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:34, August 23, 2018 (UTC)

You need an intuition to act as certain specific personality type, what exact point does that have? Should we add intuition for shyness, anger, etc.? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:40, August 23, 2018 (UTC)

So we should have jock, nerd and other personality trait intuitions? No. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:41, August 24, 2018 (UTC)

It comes under common sense, should I add something to Rules? --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:11, August 24, 2018 (UTC)

25. Before creating absolute/lordship/meta/omni/transcendent-powers, get approval of Admin/mod, first step is to explain how it isn't "just like (power) but more". Any new powers that aren't approved are deleted unless it's something really interesting.

Deleted. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:04, August 26, 2018 (UTC)

So, after all that: how is it different aside "more"? I'm not against returning it, just that it actually brings this site something that isn't repeat of the existing power/physiology + more of the same. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:27, August 26, 2018 (UTC)

Text takes more space than pic = axed text. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:19, August 29, 2018 (UTC)

Transcendent Bogeyman Physiology - returned, please add it to correct pages.

Almighty Replication - point, you might want to Comment that on the page to explain the change. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:27, August 30, 2018 (UTC)

Poltergeist Physiology for starters, then which-ever Transcendent Physiology fits best. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:47, August 30, 2018 (UTC)

How about this: you go through the series and find all characters with specific powers, and add them all at once instead of one at the time? --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:05, September 2, 2018 (UTC)

I check every Edit, 1 change/Edit with several Edits on the row gets old really fast.

From the top: Oxygen Independence 5 edits, Contaminant Immunity, Disease Immunity, Radiation Immunity 6, Poison Immunity 7. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:20, September 2, 2018 (UTC)

Because link you added to the level-name was already in the text. And the highest one before your Edit had Nigh Omnipotence in it. Bit hard to top that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:37, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

On second thought, links to the level names could work but they need to be removed from text.

Absolute level is really iffy as the original highest is Nigh Omnipotence already and you can't go to OP with lesser powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:27, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

You're adding multiple italic-codes when you Edit, please stop that.

Adding just Unicorn means "every single unicorn can do this". Unless you're sure that is the case, please add Various or something like it before that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:21, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

That wasn't warning, just a note so you would know to keep eye on it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, October 2, 2018 (UTC)

Hello chocolatelemental.

Wanna be friends.

Just trying to act cool here though.

Also I know tf2 freaks.

Here are some I know.

Painis cupcake

Dic soupcan

That engineer. Not gonna say his name cause it's inappropriate

Pancake man

Intelligent heavy

Captain demoman

Scuttle bucket

Spencer Pootis

Christian brutal sniper

Piss cakehole

Snyphurr

Demopan

Spyper

Polite spy

MEEM, scout meem, soldier MeeM, demoman MeeM, pyro MeeM, engineer MeeM, sniper MeeM, spy MeeM, and finally heavy MeeM the most aggressive of all MeeMs

Demo samedi

Heavydile

Rubberfruit. Yes even Gmod users are freaks because tf2sona aka portmanteau of persona and tf2

Nightmare medic

Medizard

Cyborneer

Friendly scout

Pootis bird

Troll scout

Seeman and seeldier

Weaselcake

I got more but you get the point right.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 01:50, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

Hello chocolatelemental. Are you there. It's me User:Pokemonfan807--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 14:39, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

Did you see all the tf2 freaks I showed you.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 15:32, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

Change it to Unicorns => means every unicorn can do it. Since they can't, don't change it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:25, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

In Homo Superior Physiology's Also Called, Homo Sapiens Mutandis/Mutantis Physiology and Human Mutant Physiology...

Just because homo superiors don't look like monsters doesn't mean they can't be, looks can be very deceiving you know...

Homo Superiors can be related to monsters, literally, there was a character named Freakshow from Marvel Comics (Check Monster Physiology) who had the ability to turn into monsters, thus, its not a universal fact that they are completely unrelated to each other which can justify mutants being related to Homo Superiors.

"Modified version" really doesn't seem to make the cut if other powers are going to be variations to Modified Physiology such as Homo Magi Physiology.

I would really like it if that one word was replaced with "Mutated" or at least something different than "Modified". CrabHermit (talk) 21:30, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

My personal opinion is that it depends on the phenomen. Some are active, others are passive.

In case of created/artificial ones, I'd say it depends on the User: which one they make/can make. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:42, December 3, 2018 (UTC)

What does that have to do with anything? -_-? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:22, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

Aside of the fact that it's pretty much established (can't remember if it ever got written down anywhere) that you can't become OP/N-OP just by stacking powers, it's more of a trivia really. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:33, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

You mean Complete Arsenal/Nigh-Complete Arsenal? Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:50, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

Concerning Ichigo's hybrid status, I honestly don't see why it's "untidy" to have him on both pages. I don't want to edit war, I just don't see the point of your edit. Both powers aren't mutually exclusive; Ichigo is a Transcendent Hybrid, yes, but that doesn't change the fact that he is still a hybrid. More of a hybrid than even the Visoreds or Tousen, as Ichigo was born a perfect hybrid. Timjer (talk) 15:13, December 12, 2018 (UTC)

Now I am even more confused. You're saying that it is supposed to not make sense? What? You do know that such an explanation is never going to be accepted by anyone, right? Even wiki's solely about supernatural abilities that defy physics and biology still have to make sense. Look, there are a lot of characters on two seperate power pages at once. Powers that are just variants of each other. Why are those allowed while Ichigo here isn't? I just don't get it and I'm allowed to ask why. Saying I don't have to get it and just blindly obey is honestly extremely rude. Especially since I'm not just some mindless newb anon but an experienced contributor. Timjer (talk) 15:25, December 12, 2018 (UTC)

? I seem to be missing something here. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:05, December 13, 2018 (UTC)

Like what was that about? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:57, December 13, 2018 (UTC)

There aren't any. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:12, December 13, 2018 (UTC)

If OP has any kind of limitation, it's not OP but N-OP. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:24, December 13, 2018 (UTC)

Pretty much covered by current description already. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:40, December 13, 2018 (UTC)

"one and only wielder" isn't clear enough? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

OP is locked, so I've added it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:25, December 16, 2018 (UTC)

I won't give permission for something I don't know about. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:30, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

So demigods who are more powerful than "the most powerful of deities"? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:38, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

I'll call it Badassery of those two and say no. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:54, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Knowing this site like I do, sooner or later someone would answer to your idea with the page about more powerful deity who still wasn't MDP, and some other then go up one level, etc. Happened few times and it newer ends well. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:22, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Words cannot describe the level of sarcasm. Believe me it would happen.

That and physiology which is basically about "can beat (x)" really isn't doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

That wasn't about you, that was about me. I've been here since -11 and believe me I've seen it often enough to put the boot down before new trend starts.

You know what the people who want to make those powers will say? "Because you allowed/we already have this".

Please divide your messages into sections, wall of text isn't easy to read. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:15, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Can you think any way to change it from Physiology/beating gods to something more general? There are several characters who have gone against targets that are blatantly above their weight class and won. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:40, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

You want to try fixing that? As much as I dislike it, the following argument would take week at least and which way it would go depends on who wants to argue longest.

That's incidentally why I try to snip things before the power gets done. Once power exist, chancing them gets tricky. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:53, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

To repeat: "You want to try fixing that?", you just need to bed willing to argue your point for few weeks against others with equally strong opinions. But I'll say right now that I'll tell everyone not to bother me over it.

Also, Variations aren't sub-species, in this case they just share similar background.

That said, we didn't have Divine Lord Physiology back then, so some modification might be needed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:05, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

It wouldn't be a game if there wasn't way to win, no matter what the opposition was. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:28, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

1) completely missing the point of my previous message.

2) to repeat: "You know what the people who want to make those powers will say? "Because you allowed/we already have this"" --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:56, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Third time: if you're so bothered about TEP, CHANGE IT. Unless this is all about the new shiny power and not the power balance.

I've told you several times that making precedent will make a mess. And trying to explain to those who want to make the next step won't work. It's not working on you and you're pulling TEP as proof that it should exist. Exactly like the next one would do. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:31, December 22, 2018 (UTC)

"Can you think any way to change it from Physiology/beating gods to something more general? There are several characters who have gone against targets that are blatantly above their weight class and won. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:40, December 20, 2018 (UTC)" --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:06, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Why must it be physiology? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:13, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

You haven't seen. Do note that you're asking about similar level of power. I've been adding rules when they are needed, not just because it amuses me.

And again: if you're so bothered about TEP, why aren't you chancing it? This is fourth time I repeat this offer and there hasn't been answer. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:58, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, meant TNP/Transcendent Nephalem Physiology.

BTW, only thing about Monotheistic Deity Physiology on TNP says "Transcendent Nephalems are below a Monotheistic Deity as they are only nigh omnipotent". That's the only thing that needs to be removed to make it just powerful instead of next to MDP. And not even that important to the power. Removed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:39, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

It means your main reasoning for making it no longer exists. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:50, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Well, we'll see when it's done. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:42, December 26, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:33, December 26, 2018 (UTC)

What are you taliing about? This is the first time you've ever said that to me. And is that an actual rule? Smijes08 (talk) 17:12, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

You just went to my page, chewing me out for not inckuding "series" in the pages for known users and threatening to bring it up with the admins. You make it sound like this isn't the first time you've said it to me when it is. Smijes08 (talk) 17:15, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

No one else said that to me, and I didn't see it on the wiki rules. Also, Asura's Wrath is just one game, not a series. Smijes08 (talk) 17:20, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

What kind of trivia?

There are probably others, but two come to mind: Apep from Egyptian mythology and Angra Mainyu/Ahriman from Zoroastrianism. Depending how you look at them, Set/Seth and Loki in later mythology may also count. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:41, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

There's link for both, take a look.

Set and Loki definitely didn't tho. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:16, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

OK, to expand a bit. I don't know much about Angra Mainyu/Ahriman, but Zoroastrianism is dualistic religion, which means that he must be pretty close to in power to Ahura Mazda/God.

Apep was bad news for everyone, he attacked Ra every morning before sun rose and Ra needed full crew of gods to survive that. Depending which myth you look, that crew might been every sun/dawn deity of the pantheon and there are plenty of those. Bast and Seth were certainly part of the crew, so we're talking some heavy hitters and Ra isn't exactly push-over himself. Eclipses were thought to be caused by Apep attacking Ra during day when he was at the peak of his power and momentarily overpowering Ra.

If you read Ape's wiki-page you notice that priests used magic against him. Looking it certain way it means they thought the battle was close enough that even few mortals might be enough to tip the odds. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:55, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Don't be surprised if it gets deleted again. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Why should Cosmic Awareness work against an Anti-God?

Why should Anti-God infinitely be forgiving to evil? Or at all? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:39, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Keep Gallery description short and focused to the power that page is about. No personal history.
 * Text takes more space than pic = axed text. Ridiculously more = axed to name/series. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:25, January 14, 2019 (UTC)

Done. You'll remove the links? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:33, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Because Atlanteans aren't specific species/race but collection of the various ideas of what people that were/are descendant of the people of/from Atlantis are.

In original sources aside the noble/royal families who are descendants of Poseidon they are normal humans, others include humans with advanced sciences, humans with nothing more than ability to survive under water, underwater civilizations of various levels of changes, ending with the superhumans with powers connected to water.

And then there are those that aren't connected to Atlantis in any way aside of living under water and possibly having started as surface dwellers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:59, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

So, I saw your request to Kuo. What do you mean by Outerversal, exactly? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:02, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:20, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Just to make sure, what did you mean by "existing outside all existences imaginable"? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:23, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

You don't need permission to Edit, just ability to defend your position when people disagree. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:28, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

You don't need permission to Edit page. You just need to be able to convince others that your opinion is valid if others disagree. What's so hard to understand?

I removed the whole thing as OP is beyond even that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:53, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Note the part about beyond? One of the things about OP is that it's literally beyond anything we can define, what OP page is, is just us making it bit more relatable/understandable for ourselves. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:02, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Outerversal isn't even a real term. Its something that was made up solely for the VS Battle wikia

So the original names were accurate as is.SageM (talk) 21:21, February 7, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Omnipotence is unprovable by the basic definition of the power.

Its why Omnipotence isn't considered a power, its a State of Being.

You can't prove something is omnipotent because its exists outside of any form of understanding.

An Omnipotent being doesn't have to do anything to prove their power, they simply exist and thats all there is too it.

The argument about being Omnipotent or not, has been going on in this wikia for as long as its been around.

Conceptual Transcendence and Indeterminacy are the closest analogues to True Omnipotence that we can define in a form our minds can grasp.SageM (talk) 21:34, February 7, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Kami Tenchi is the best example of a True Omnipotent Being, in that doesn't have to offer proof any to his power.

Just appearing in the universe automatically ended the conflict between the Choushin, The Counter-Actor and the mortal realm/dimension.

Thats how powerful He is, he doesn't have to do anything. Everyone automatically knows he is all-powerful.SageM (talk) 21:47, February 7, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Bit too clunky I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:54, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

OK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

Well, not exactly super but certainly enhanced as theory are simply tweaks on the biology. I think you could add it/them as trivia to the page, but rules prevent adding them into Users. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:27, February 15, 2019 (UTC)

Yin Separation --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:57, February 19, 2019 (UTC)

My bad, meant to remove the category not the trivia. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:22, February 22, 2019 (UTC)

On this site, conceptually/in media or in mythology/folklore? --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:05, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

Conceptually, if you start from Creator, yes. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:40, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

In most cases, it looks more like parasitism. Could work as Association but that's about it.

OP means literally "All Powers", and it's more than just Complete Arsenal. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:27, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

? --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:52, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

That doesn't explain where you get the idea that they keep switching between sides randomly. Got a source? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:41, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

And is your personal opinion that personal opinions should be on the pages? I've seen few quite peculiar ones... --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:41, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

None of them really pops up as The One. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:35, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

Sounds more like a minor mutation than being half-anything. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:31, March 10, 2019 (UTC)

That's change on the level that you might want to talk about that in Comments of both of them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:36, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

It's personality type, not power. You're just combining powers that are associated with that character role in media.

And it differs from Omnipotence somehow? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:11, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

"And it differs from Omnipotence somehow?" --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:17, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Sounds like a form of OP to me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Still not seeing the difference, but go ahead and show it. If it's too similar, the page goes. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:10, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

even an anti-god is not villainous it won't make any some sort of peace with the monotheistic god i'm telling you it doesn't even care if the cosmic balance is disrupted. In fiction most anti-gods are imprisoned by the supreme being to keep balance, i think your idea is fit in the trivia. Anthonytheidiot (talk) 15:33, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Go ahead, but you might want to explain the reasons in Comments. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:39, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

The genre doesn't matter, just that User does what the power is about. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Will you remove the links to Gestalt Monotheistic Deity Physiology? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:43, April 8, 2019 (UTC)

Source?
Mind giving me the source of those versions, since this is the first time I've heard anything beside the one you can see in Wikipedia? --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:29, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

That authors don't care about traditional monsters/beings and have to change them to fit their ideas. And more power makes better story. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:44, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Being transcendent power is part of it.

Good deal is about the fact that "thelemic religion" is made up one, and we deleted the fictional pantheons once already.

Cthulhu Mythos Deity Physiology is only exception of that for reasons that I can't remember anymore. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:23, April 18, 2019 (UTC)

Two problems with Satanic Deity Physiology: 1) it would be like Hunting Deity Physiology, not collection of individuals. 2) it'd get bit too close to Satanic Incarnation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:14, April 18, 2019 (UTC)

Aside it being about individual/singular being? --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:28, April 18, 2019 (UTC)

"collection of individuals" - like the pantheon specific Transcendent Physiology Variations, with their specific spheres listed. Hope that makes it clearer. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:43, April 18, 2019 (UTC)

Baphomet
If you want know abilities of Baphomet

This is all of its abilities:

it is has both gender natures in one body

God and Devil in Sametime

I don't' know what mean of devil exactly (maybe fallen angel, demon or spirit)

It is contradictory and neutral has all power of good and evil combined

It is hybrid between, human, goat and any flier animal (especially raven or bat)

It is paradox aspect which make him manipulate paradox and cotradiction

AZS (talk) 16:44, April 18, 2019 (UTC)

The problems are 1) the name, which basically connects it to Abrahamic religions and ignores other mythologies, 2) what I said about it being about the archtype, NOT the individuals, so no individual powers like AZS listed above. If you make the page, it's like Solar Deity Physiology/Hunting Deity Physiology, not about the individual powers like Arab Deity Physiology. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, April 19, 2019 (UTC)

No pages about/for individuals. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:46, April 19, 2019 (UTC)

Looks like I added "s" that doens't belong on the last post.

You want a page for a single individual. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:51, April 19, 2019 (UTC)