Talk:Causality Manipulation/@comment-38665804-20190603113831/@comment-4867780-20200114220515

Conceptually transcendent users simply master CM on a higher level, hence their immunity to attempts from lesser users. And even "changing logic" involves a form of causality, namely your will to change logic (cause) inducing such a change (effect).

"Beyond causality" ultimately doesn't make much sense, since all that happens is an expression of it. It's mostly about which type/level of causality is involved and who has the greater mastery over it.