Talk:Meta Probability Manipulation/@comment-31057336-20170705173812/@comment-25687570-20170706095721

um, I don't really have as much expertise in this as either of you probably, but from reading the argument I just thought I would throw in something that occurred to me. I think maybe that the capabilities and limitations of meta-probability manipulation are being mixed up with the capabilities and limitations of regular probability manipulation in Vlad's mind. that's just my hypothesis. personally, I feel that the two abilities kind of have nothing to do with each other, after all, how can you manipulate probabilities that aren't even there?. but at the same time, I kinda understand what DYBAD is saying. I think what DYBAD is saying is that, while MPM is not technically related to Pataphysics Manipulation, it can essentially achieve all of the same effects of it to an equal degree. so it can be called an application of MPM, because it can essentially achieve all of the same feats, even though it's not technically related to it at all.