Talk:Omni-Creator/@comment-25716369-20170428053635/@comment-25716369-20170428235224

Technically, Metapotence and Omnipotence are both beyond logic. But I encountered a problem when debating about Omnilock vs Omnipotence. You see, Omnipotence is to have infinite and unquestionable power that spans forever. Any less than that, and it wouldn't be omnipotent. Then there's Omnilock, the power to exist outside of everything. Some say that it may even exist outside of the grasp of an omnipotent, which is a big no-no in the laws of supreme beings. There needs to be an unquestionably powerful ability that no one could ever argue is bigger. I attempted to touch on this with Indeterminacy.

The argument of where Omnipotence and Metapotence fall short, is that they are in-universe abilities. An Omnipotent character in one verse has no jurisdiction in another. And it is technically possible to make the point that Omnilock could be unharmed by an omnipotent even though there is no reigon where Omnipotence does not reach.

An ability where there is no question that this being is supreme, where even if there was an omnipotent author for every greater verse of fiction, even if there was one for our world, we would need an imaginary final point where even infinity meets its end.

Though, this is all just speculation. The biggest problem I see with making such a power is that it has already lost its value. What is the point in making just another one-bigger power just to have someone one-up it soon after? You could make the argument that whenever you even concieve something greater than the power, it has already encompassed it and transcended it. But that requires the reader to make the power of what they will themselves instead of it being clear and precise.