With the shock announcement of SageM as the new bureaucrat for the Superpower Wiki, I'd like to ask the wiki community on their honest opinion on whether you think SageM deserves the role:
With the shock announcement of SageM as the new bureaucrat for the Superpower Wiki, I'd like to ask the wiki community on their honest opinion on whether you think SageM deserves the role:
For the Relational Team Demotivator, DYBAD and any other current Admin would do. Editorial falls into this same boat as it would be easy.
Strong emotional balance and sense of ethics, with good communication and conflict management skills : these seem the required qualities for lasting success on the Relational team. It's going to be delicate work over an extended period of time, so the people involved should be suitably prepared.
Well, yeah, I have seen that you're quite active Imouto, coming to think of, now I really feel strange that you were demoted due to inactivity.
Also, I have a little suggestion, that the new moderators be chosen via a vote by the current admins/mods. I suggest this so as to prevent any future clashes between the staff as that has been plaguing the wikia since a long time as they will be the ones to choose the mods and this will also give some new members a chance to prove their skills.
Also, I want this vote to be admin/mod only so that no one is able to create sock accounts to give himself/herself the advantage. If we go about this route, I think it will be best for all the interested members to give their names and then a separate poll shall be created for voting.
It wasn't due to inacivity, it was the relational conflict that had gone so far both ended up surrendering their adminship just to get some breathing room (thanks for the premium team management, Kuo). I was notably caught up in the demotion wave for... no particular reason actually, and never got it back later because our Bureaucrat decided it was simpler for him this way.
Yep, epic management right there ^ ^;
Good thinking. A popular vote on this matter would go awry in no time as all sides would pull every trick in the book to get themselves and/or their buddies "elected", including and especially the use of fake accounts to artificially boost their votes.
On the other hand, the emotional rifts between existing staff members born from years of unadressed relational issues would likely complicate the voting process, since the risk of facts-unrelated "screw you" votes is pretty high in these conditions ^ ^;
So maybe the first step should be to clear the air and set things straight, so we may then move forward with a positive mindset.
Here's the problem though, all the admins/mods are currently either blocked or are newly appointed and the situation between various admins have escalated to the point that I don't see that how these relational issues can be resolved in less than a year. I have been keeping up with this entire drama since the beginning and honestly I was feeling as if I am watching a high-school drama anime.
So, I would now suggest that rather than all admins, Alissa and Omuni should select the new admins/mods from the list of interested candidates.
I say this because the state in which kuo left the wikia is pretty pathetic. I mean FOUR admins are blocked and there are issues in the wikia that are dying to get resolved and as far as I see, we need few new rules for both admins as well as members. One of the admin is blocked for 3 months
So, the staff issue needs to be resolved as quickly as possible and the only way I see it happening is by appointing new staff starting by the selection of new Bureaucrats. As far as I think, Alissa should be promoted to Bureaucrat right away.
Also, a small advice will be to unblock the previous admins and restore their status because these relational issues need to end and giving the admins repeated blocks isn't helping and is honestly pretty bad for the wikia's reputation. If a bureaucrat interferes in their relational issues (which if it was done early on, could have prevented this situation), then these issues can be solved.
So, once again I think the first step should be promoting Alissa to bureaucrat and then she and Omuni should select new staff from the given list of interested members and finally, if possible unblocking and restoration of the status of the former admins could be done.
Sounds reasonable overall, though the suitability of new candidates should be triple-checked beforehand to make sure they don't just turn into more liabilities barely a few months in ^ ^;
Alissa ended up neck-deep in the drama though due to personal connections and emotional investment, ultimately leading to the self-bestowed block that is currently ongoing.
That honestly doesn't quite fit some key personal qualities that our future Bureaucrat definitely needs (strong emotional stability and fairness of judgement among them). And as you rightly mentioned, there is no way this much accumulated issues (both within and without) would just magically sort themselves out in a few weeks.
So the only valid candidates for Bureaucrat are Omuni and Arquetion at the moment.
I think we should also set crystal-clear (and mandatory) behavioral standards for staff members in the future, so the aberrant attitudes we have witness recently no longer happen, at least not without major consequences. I'm notably talking about the stalker-level insane harrassment this one former admin had been perpetrating for weeks on my talk page, and eventually got a 3-months block for it.
Not quite sure adminship restoration would be the reasonable decision in this case.
Yeah, I saw her messages on your talk page and honestly, I don't know how to respond to that........
"I think we should also set crystal-clear (and mandatory) behavioral standards for staff members in the future, so the aberrant attitudes we have witness recently no longer happen, at least not without major consequences. I'm notably talking about the stalker-level insane harrassment this one admin had been perpetrating for weeks on my talk page, and eventually got a 3-months block for it."
That is what I meant by new rules for admins. As for new bureaucrat, Arquetion fits all the criterias but he himself refused the position, so that leaves us with Omuni. I think she'll do a good job even though she isn't that active nowadays. But regardless, I believe she is best suited for this position as the things currently stand.
So the first plan of action is to instate two new bureaucrats then yes ? Cos I agree with Nekron there, the new guard should ultimately decide who the mod squad should consist of.
Unfortunately, due to how often I'm long-absent on this wiki (because I'm busy elsewhere), I can't completely comment on certain users' behaviour (namely Omuni, Alissa and to an extent Arquetion), so I'll have to trust you all's judgement on them.
Though from my experiences of interacting with him (past and present), and no offence to you bruh, I personally don't think Arquetion is experienced enough yet for a role as large as the bureaucrat role. Massive respect to him for declining the role for essentially the same reason as I've given.
But yeah, any person who fits the 'perfect bureaucrat criteria' that I mentions elsewhere would naturally get my vote ^^
Cos there's a fuckton of wiki issues that will need to be addressed once this all gets sorted, so it'd be good to get things moving
We've discussed it somewhat on Discord, but I think we should really start looking at filling the roles of the mod squad. Obviously the Technical and Relational Teams have more specialised roles, so ideally they should get looked at first, but I do suggest the Editing Team have at least 2 people who are often active on the wiki.
Should we discuss all that on another thread perhaps ?
While I wouldn't suggest this person for admin position, I do believe that the user Smijes08 would be a good fit for Content Moderator.
We probably should discuss it after we decide if we really want to get rid of SageM or not, because I am now 50/50 on the situation.