So many of u may be aware that the user Nekron2 has changed Absolute Immortality to a suped up version of itself on steroids. The new Absolute Immortality has the stipulation that only Omnipotent beings are able to kill its users. Everything else will fail. This in of itself is not the problem. While I admit I feel this was a needless wank of AI and think it was fine before it’s still something that fits and makes sense for the site.
The problem that I was trying to get at on the AI page before Nekron2 twisted the argument about something else is that while it’s okay to take an absolute power up to this level it is not okay and is logically inaccurate to say said absolute power is greater than another absolute power which is also what Nekron has done.
Let me explain, Absolute life which is what AI grants has a clear and perfect polar opposite which would be Absolute Death. I’ll admit looking into this I found the death powers tier list on this site to be murky at best. We have Unrestricted Murdering, Unavertable Death, Omnislayer and a few more. However for the sake of this argument I will just be using the name Absolute Death. Whichever one it is.
What I was trying to explain to Nekron is that Absolutes vs Absolutes can not result in one absolute taking the other in a decisive manner as he claims AI would take AD.
To better explain this I will use the old philosophical question many of u may know.
Which would win out?
The Unstoppable Force VS the Immovable Object
They are both absolute in their characteristics so that makes this question impossible to answer.
However what Nekron is basically saying is the unstoppable force rams through the immovable object. Which as u guys know makes no sense. You can’t say that any more than you can say they cancel each other out because that would be a win for the immovable object. Neither one can be said to be the winner while maintaining clear logic. So what is the best answer we can give. We don’t know.
To translate that on this site and to what I’m talking about let’s bring in the two absolutes where discussing.
Absolute Immortality: Nekron has now pushed this power to the max and has said the only thing that can kill this power is an Omnipotent.
Absolute Death: Taking Nekron lead if we push this power to the max it would read the only thing this power can’t kill is an Omnipotent.
Nekron argues an AD user can’t kill an AI user. He says it’s because the AD user is not Omnipotent. That’s true but I can also argue the reverse and it’s true because we are dealing with absolutes.
An AD user can kill an AI user because they are not Omnipotent. Do u see how both statements run counter to each other and can be seen as true.
The only solution to this which we do for most absolute powers on here and is a common practice is the may limitation.
AI page should read
- May be able to be killed by AD
AD page should read
- AI May be immune
It’s that simple. Nekron wants one absolute to overpower another and logically that doesn’t make sense. If there is a flaw in my reasoning someone please tell me. If not I’m gonna talk to a bureaucrat because Nekron seems to be using his admin status to abuse his power and change things In accordance with his wishes that don’t make sense.