ALM users cannot make themselves true omnipotent but can they make themselves metapotent? I think they cannot
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@Omni-Defiance I meant to say since they can do both do anything, what is the sense of Complete Arsenal? Metapotence alone can do anything, so what is the sense of possessing all of those additional powers? How would you make a difference between them?
That is why I consider Metapotence is not included in Complete Arsenal as stated in the limitations because otherwise, this power would be no different from MP.
Do you ask a collector why they collect, NO! they do it because they enjoy it. You seem to completely misunderstand why Complete Arsenal has an innumerous amount of abilities. Complete Arsenal and Nigh-Complete Arsenal are the same, in the sense that they don't care about the power level of each individual power just how many they have.
You can have Nigh-Complete Arsenal that contains Almighty Magic and yet not possess Fire Manipulation. Sure you could use almighty magic to manipulate fire but that still wouldn't be the same as having the ability fire manipulation.
@Omni-Defiance If you have Almighty Magic, it's obvious you have Fire Manipulation because can you manipulate fire with magic? Obviously yes, that's why you have Pyrokinesis and your argument that it's possible to be mystopotent but not possessing FM doesn't make sense because you obviously have it.
For the same reason I consider variations of Omnipotence included in Complete Arsenal to not make sense because if it did, all of other additional powers wouldn't be any helpful. If CA focuses on having all powers and use them in verity of ways, what would be the pleasure of having all powers if you have one that encompasses all of them? That's why CA doesn't include Metapotence, Almighty Magic, Author Authority included in it and it's still complete.
No no you don't understand. If I use Almighty Magic to use Pyrokinesis the is not the same.
Look
Almighty Magic > Pyrokinesis> Fire Ball (This is not the same as)
Pyrokinesis> Fire Ball (Do you see the difference)
Fire Ball (The origin of the fire is the base power used)
There is a variation of each power with different starting points. As for the additional powers, they're there because the user wants them to be. They have many powers that overlap like Chair Manipulation & Furniture Manipulation but that doesn't matter, they have it. And Complete Arsenal cannot not have Metapotence, Almighty Magic, Author Authority etc. Without them it wouldn't be complete. Nigh-Complete Arsenal on the other hand is the one that may or may not have them.
I don't quite understand your point @Omni-Defiance . What's the difference between manipulating fire via Pyrokinesis and Almighty Magic? Mystopotence can clearly manipulate fire, so it includes Fire Manipulation within it.
Like I said the origin is different. Almighty Magic can manipulate fire but the power it self isn't Fire Manipulation, Pyrokinesis also isn't Fire Manipulation.
Looking at what I wrote we now have three separate powers that manipulate fire, Almighty Magic, Fire Manipulation and Pyrokinesis.
I agree with @Clara Sirius . I understand your point, Omni-Defiance, but it doesn't make sense. Almighty Magic includes Fire Manipulation. It's not a different power, it's the same included in a major power.
(sorry for any English mistake, my mother language is Portuguese)
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@Omni-Defiance At this point, do you mean Almighty Magic controls fire magically and this way, it's somehow different from simple Fire Manipulation? Do you mean Fire Magic is completely different from Fire Manipulation?
You clearly do not understand my point in the slightest.
You could think of it that way, the difference is the cause. Lets say 1 can manipulate fire and 2 can also manipulate fire, despite them doing the same thing 1 is not 2 and 2 is not 1.
@Omni-Defiance It seems your intelligence is too transcendent for our minds.
What do you think?