@OgoBuga101 your argument fails in that if flipped and made to be from a theist's point of view it would essentially be "your belief that God does not exists is invalid due to the fact that there is no justification to it."

Again, if discussed from a theist's point of view your argument would be equivalent to the big bang theory's violation of the first law of thermodynamics, which says you can't create or destroy matter or energy and therefore nullifying the entire argument due to that

Ngl, I;m shocked that this hasn't went into a childish argument. Disccusion surronding the G dude gets into such things

1. ⁠The error is not in the proposed dichotomy, it is in the assertion that there must be a member of the set of necessary things. And..

2. ⁠There is no reason to believe that any necessary thing must be an entity or a being or willful. Our current understanding of the universe is that the energy that makes up the universe cannot be created or destroyed and this has always existed. It is a prime candidate for a necessarily existent thing. But it is in no way understood by anyone to be a god.

If we talk about probability, all of them.

@Lucifernightstar But God knows i believe in him tho.

.All those who believe have the right to do so.

They shouldn't be persecuted or yelled at for doing so.

They are not 2nd-class citizens.

You are valid, not because your belief says so, but because you are not less than others for putting your heart & mind into a religion.

After all, the general idea is to share love, isn't it ?

.As for me, it would be a problem, only if they used that belief to justify unfair violence on others.

Because i'm more on the side of cold-hard facts and raw science, if deities were to exist, i would need proof, but not "blind faith" proof.

Something that can actually be explained and presented with facts.

@Jacaiju23 the same argument ends the same way in that I can't justify the Necessary Existence being an entity and vise versa.

However, for a Necessary Existence to become the Necessary Being it is then it shouldn't be dependant on anything. In the case of the Big Bang theory, the theory describes how the universe expanded from an initial state of high density and temperature. In that case wouldn't the Necessary Existence be dependant on the expansion from the initial state of high density and temperature?

Can you post the image for aliens in chat?

God doesn't exist. Yet all the rest have more evidence to back themselves up rather than a fictional being.