122 Votes in Poll
Absolute Force🔥. The possibilities would be endless
Idk, to me existential distinction is far more intriguing.
Existential Distinction is the key to freedom, to be someone, your own person, to prove you are special, that nothing else matters, that only you matter now, thanks to the new unique properties it will give you, it defies logic, reality, and concepts, because you are finally separated from it, to be just completely different.
True. I see where you guys are coming from. But thankfully, and correct me if I’m wrong, I think with what I chose I could be the same way (Distinct or separated from everything)
''what makes you distinct from anything?''
Well since I have control of pretty much every single kind of force or whatever you wanna call it, I can just manipulate my own body, or rather my existence as a whole and manipulate it into whatever result I want. Which I believe would include making myself distant from everything if I’m not already.
I would pick absolute force manipulation as I would be capable of manipulating totality through those forces . I could access the conceptual plane which if u know about Plato's theory of forms ,that's when things get interesting.In basic terms, Plato's Theory of Forms asserts that the physical world is not really the 'real' world; instead, the ultimate reality exists beyond our physical world.Plato's philosophy asserts that there are two realms: the physical realm and the spiritual realm. The physical realm is the material stuff we see and interact with on a daily basis; this physical realm is changing and imperfect, as we know all too well. The spiritual realm, however, exists beyond the physical realm. Plato calls this spiritual realm the Realm of Forms (also called the Realm of Ideas or Realm of Ideals). Plato's Theory of Forms asserts that the physical realm is only a shadow, or image, of the true reality of the Realm of Forms.So what are these Forms, according to Plato? The Forms are abstract, perfect, unchanging concepts or ideals that transcend time and space; they exist in the Realm of Forms. Even though the Forms are abstract, that doesn't mean they are not real. In fact, the Forms are more 'real' than any individual physical objects. So, concepts like Redness, Roundness, Beauty, Justice, or Goodness are Forms (and thus they are commonly capitalized). Individual objects like a red book, a round ball, a beautiful girl, a just action, or a good person reside in the physical realm and are simply different examples of the Forms. I could manipulate the physical realm through the realm of forms and pretty much do anything . I have one ultimate goal and that is to convert all universes into an eternal blissful paradise .
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@TheDevil7777 The philosophy of plato somewhat aligns with thetheology of the spirtual world in christianity, how interesting.
My main worry with Existential Distinction is that I would lose my personality, identity, and so on. Whilst I agree that it would essentially equate to total freedom, whether or not I would want it depends entirely on its specific nature. If I can control in what ways I am distinct, then I might go for it. It does mention on the page "their ability to forgo, include, and deny" everything, which would tend to imply that they do have the capacity to selectively choose what they do and do not include in themselves (thereby allowing the inclusion of a personality, identity, etc), and what they are included in (e.g., the laws of reality can be accepted or denied on a whim).
Absolute Gravity Manipulation is an interesting power, and could potentially do things like create fate (as a sort of metaphysical gravity pulling things towards a predefined outcome), but not ultimately something I would be interested in having (or, I suppose, being, in this case), at least compared to other powers.
Absolute Intelligence is similar in that regard. It would be cool to have, sure, and would let me advance science by inconceivable levels, but I prefer powers that either have a direct external influence or directly grant further capabilities that can do that (as in the case of Existential Distinction).
Absolute Force Manipulation has ambiguity as well, but less so in the nature of the power and more in terms of the specific definition of 'force' being used. It obviously goes beyond just physical forces, but the definition of 'Force' used on this site (as seen in various '-Force' powers) seems to vary quite a bit. In some cases, it's an underlying source for a certain type of power (as in the case of Psychic Force), in others, it just seems to generally be synonymous with energy/power, and so on. The most general definition I have found is "cause of motion or change". Physical forces cause changes in momentum, but supernatural and metaphysical forces (and forces beyond those) can cause changes in other things. This definition could also be used to encompass most uses of 'force' on this site - e.g., Magical Force represents the capacity of magic and its derivatives (spells, rituals, etc) to bring about change. Without this force, magic would not function, as it would be unable to cause any change at all and would thus have no effect on reality. Fate could be seen as a force that drives change towards a predetermined outcome. The Primordial Force could be seen as the 'first cause' that brought about the first change from nothing to something/everything. And so on.
In this sense, Absolute Force Manipulation could easily do pretty much anything. They could negate any power simply by denying it the forces it relies on to function, in the same way I stated before with magic, and it could bring about any change by the creation or utilisation of a relevant force.
So essentially, which I would choose really hinges on the specific nature of Existential Distinction, as I explained before. If it risks losing my identity, personality, and so on, just by gaining/becoming it, I wouldn't want it, and I would take Absolute Force Manipulation. Otherwise, I would probably take Existential Distinction, just for the freedom inherent in it (whilst Absolute Force Manipulation could easily achieve the same freedom, it doesn't necessarily have it by default).
What do you think?