You mean Ambition Manipulation and Temperature Manipulation?

No, half hot half cold allows you to generate and manipulate freezing ice from your right and burning flames from your left, and haki is related to willpower not ambition.

And the hito hito no mi model:nika only really makes you stretchy and allows you to freely manipulate your rubber body and turn anything you touch into rubber plus (i guess) creating objects from your hair, that's not really toon physics down to the exact detail it just has some traits

First all of Todoroki's ability is literally just Temperature Manipulation, but worse.

In one piece ambition and will are interchangeable, but if you say willpower then who am I to say no.

Nika is literally toon physics, literally created glasses (high-tech glasses for that matter) from his hair, unless the Nika Fruit has technological abilities, how do you explain that.

It's toon physics homey, whether you like it or not.

It's rubber, it's literally the entire fruits thing with the hair creation becoing because it's a mythical zoan aka he gets a special power when transformed.

Sure it's based on toon physics but it's literally just it's earlier ability but with an additional power and in traditional paramecia fashion you can turn whatever you touch into rubber

Also

Yeah it's basically just a combination of fire and ice not temperature, heck his parents had fire and ice not cold and heat powers

My point is these powers are weak compared to the what is here on the wiki.

I mean reading that short extract proves my point, he is unable to manipulate external sources of fire and ice. (Btw let's be honest, if fire and ice merged into one power it would Temperature Manipulation.) So why would you want to limit yourself when you can be even stronger.

That's like saying you want Lightning Magic when Storm Magic would be overall a better and more versatile power.

Tell if Luffy's power is simply rubber Mimicry and rubber Transmutation (can turn things into rubber) then why is he on the user section of Toon Physics.

Do you agree that Luffy should be on that page?

Or should he be removed?

Cause many people have said he has toon physics.

Luffy's power boils down to imagination, he can do anything, not just rubber stuff. He literally caught lightning and run so fast he set the air (which he ran on) on fire.

Luffy's powers are Toon Physics. There is no other way around it.

Simple because his powers are similar to toon physics, but he isn't an immortal toon since normal devil fruit weaknesses would still easily hurt him.

Also why does everyone assume i'm like everyone else and was powers for strength? like i'll take the weakest power as long as it's versatile and fun, if you gave me a choice between omnipotence and the most versatile and fun power i would choose the 2nd option.

Honestly having great strength is just an extra bonus to me, just an extra effect my power has,

"TeMpErAtUrE mAnIpUlAtIoN iS sTrOnGeR tHaN hAlF hOt HaLf CoLd" well i don't care, i don't give a single ounce of care about which is stronger i just like half hot half cold because when shoto used it it looked cool.

I didn't say Luffy was immortal, obviously the DF weaknesses apply, again I didn't even think that was worth mentioning. Outside of these weaknesses, he still has Toon Physics. That is unchanging.

Assuming?........dawg I don't give two flying craps, cause at the end of the day it doesn't matter what you choose, you still know there is someone better than you. If you want Half-Warm and Half-Chilly be my guest.

But saying Todoroki's ability has more versatile than Temperature Manipulation is just wrong.

A competent Temperature Manipulation user could literally turn Todoroki's powers against him.

Just know that you are entitled to your opinion and choice.

Also you're telling me you want versatility over power, okay no problem.

So you would take Fire Manipulation over Omnipotence? You're choosing Fire Manipulation, even though Omnipotence can be argued as the most versatile power ever. All powers can be versatile in their own way, you just have to be creative,

For my closing statements.

(All of the following is my opinion.)

Luffy has Toon Force

Half-Mild and Half-Piss is trash compared to true Thermal Manipulation

And versatility is a great attribute, but power will always come out on top.

I mean look at Doffy, dude had arguably one of the weakest fruits, but his experience and training made it immensely versatile and powerful, yet how did luffy beat him, literally just using his strength.

If you told todoroki that you'd probably be half frozen half burnt or he's just ignore you and not care

Luffy shouldn't be in the toon force page. But as often as it's removed, some rando is gonna throw it back on. Don't treat the wiki like it's infallible.