@AzQth Fascinating! What could stop this type of Totality Warper?

@Necropolis00 I guess... even if it is intuitive, it is still an active power, so if the user hasn't created any passive defenses for themselves (unlikely, since making it so intuitive would likely have taken a lot of practice, during which time they would likely have made some defenses for themselves) then in principle they could be defeated by a power that can instantly neutralise them somehow (e.g., Death Inducement, Erasure, Absolute Superpower Destruction, etc). Though this also assumes that they don't see it coming and negate the threat - considering that many manipulation powers have sub-powers that allow for perception of the things they manipulate (e.g., Causality Manipulation has Causality Perception), it wouldn't be unreasonable to suggest that Omni-Manipulation would be capable of perceiving all of totality, should they wish to, including all possible ways they could ever be defeated.

@AzQth Basically your only hope is to take them by surprise and instantly kill them. If not, you're screwed.

@Necropolis00 Pretty much, and you've also got to hope that it's even possible to catch them by surprise.

Of course, having an absolute/omnipotent power (depending on whether Totality Warping is considered absolute or omnipotent in nature) would potentially allow for some measure of equal fighting, but the results are inconclusive because two absolute powers opposing one another or two omnipotent powers opposing one another both produce contradictions. Though naturally, if their power is absolute and yours is omnipotent, you win outright.

@AzQth I like that! Isn't Reality Warping at best equal to Metapotence in that you can do anything and everything, logic be damned? Random question: How does the scenario change if the Totality Warper has Regeneration? Let's start off with the basic version all the way up to Absolute Regeneration.

@Necropolis00 @AzQth even if you catch them by surprise and kill them would it really matter considering that this power is above logic and reason can't they just bring themselves back to life even if it's an active power and require them to actually want to do something to actually work they can ignore logic and reason even if erased from existence

Anyway that's my take it's difficult to apply logic to a power that transcend it

@Godking25 I suppose that it could? I wholeheartedly agree with you!

@Necropolis00 Hmm... all levels below Supernatural Tier II don't really change much for Death Inducement, and beyond that point it depends on the nature of Death Inducement (as in, purely bodily death might be recovered from by Tier V and maybe as low as Tier III, depending on if living cells are required to regenerate, while metaphysical death would likely require Tier VI or above to regenerate from). Nothing changes for Erasure until Tier VI Supernatural Regeneration, at which point the user might be able to regenerate from the concept of themselves, or something like that, and any level of regeneration above that (i.e., all levels of Nigh-Absolute Regeneration and above) would most likely survive. The problem comes when you start using absolute powers (e.g., Absolute Superpower Destruction, the absolute levels of Death Inducement and Erasure, etc) against them, because at that point only Absolute Regeneration would make a difference and that difference would only really be that the result is inconclusive due to contradicting absolute powers.

@Godking25 I tend to go purely off of the definition of the power (in this case, "the power to manipulate absolutely everything") unless extra context is given that expands on that. In this instance, the idea of it being 'using only your thoughts' is extra context, though it wasn't enough for me to assume such passive aspects, in the sense that, even if the power is beyond all logic and reason, it doesn't mean that the user is. You might be able to manipulate anything and everything through your thoughts alone, but if you're dead or nonexistent, you can't exactly produce thoughts, so the power doesn't act.

Of course, that's not to say that your view isn't a reasonable one; many characters with these kinds of powers would be fully capable of those things, such as how many portrayals of powerful reality warpers in fiction do demonstrate the capacity to self-resurrect or self-restore from death, erasure and so on, defying logic without conscious effort or passive defenses they created prior. It just so happens that my approach to analysing these powers means that I tend to require a direct implication of it from the definition of the power or from the context in which the power is presented.

@AzQth That's pretty reasonable! Personally, I don't think those powers that you mentioned necessarily result in a contradiction. For example, Absolute Superpower Destruction does indeed destroy Totality Warping, but it regenerates back because of Absolute Regeneration. Same goes for Absolute Death Inducement, Erasure, et cetera. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong! I will admit that my brain is sluggish right now. 😅

Honestly, I see it the same way. While you can alter totality however you want, it doesn't mean that you are invincible. The power is supreme, but you aren't.

I wonder which is better for Totality Warping: Absolute Invulnerability, Absolute Regeneration, or Immutability?