What happens if you erase an Ultimate-level Causality Manipulator?
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I've never been entirely sure about this. Why are Primordial Force Manipulation and Absolute Destruction described as the final forms of Omnificence and Absolute Destruction? If these are correct, would it mean that Primordial Nothingness Manipulation could be considered the final form of Absolute Erasure?
Also, in your opinion, what actually are the primordial and apocalyptic forces? Why does control over the primordial force seem to grant control over everything?
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@AzQth Would Absolute Erasure work against Absolute Invulnerability? On a side note, how does Absolute Invulnerability have Power Anchoring?
So I just want to check something, is the difference between these two poewrs that Omni-Negation is temporary, presumably lasting for as long as the user wants, while Absolute Erasure is permanent? So Omni-Negation is more like the active suppression or denial of something on any/all levels for as long as the power acts on it?
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Which Absolute or Omnipotent powers are inherently terrifying or can easily be made to be as such?
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How does Absolute Erasure have Omnificence in its applications?
What's the difference between Absolute Destruction and Erasure? Can AD do everything that AE can, like destroying the concept of death for yourself so that you're truly immortal?
So in the Absolute Immortality page it says that they can't even be erased and will forever live, even through erasure,. But Absolute Erasure can erase absolutely anything and everything, so does that mean that absolute erasure can erase absolute immortality or a user of it or not?
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How can an user of EM gain Autopotence? And would EM grant Absolute Erasure, since the power allows you to erase someone's existence?
https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Meta_Silence_Manipulation
I still can't comprehend how stopping the fluctuation of forms can destroy them, could anyone clarify how can that happen?
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By definiton absolute powers are power doesn't have any limit on it's field.
Is having of powers like absolute destruction, omnificence, absolute erasure and Absolute_Death_Manipulation are qualified as selective omnipotence?
A form of nothingness that is beyond any concept or perspective, and that contradicts and negates everything, including itself. It is impossible to think or express this nothingness, which is different from the empty world of metaphysics. It is also a challenge to omnipotence, as it can erase anything that exists. It is a paradoxical and absurd form of nothingness that defies all logic and reality.
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A little while ago, I discussed Beyond Dimensional Physiology with @Ogtea. During this, I finally managed to figure out how to explain my thoughts on the power, why I don't think it is an Omnipotence Derivative and why it shouldn't possess many of the powers it does.
I can kind of agree with it being Nigh-Omnipotent, but not Omnipotent, at least not explicitly on here. I think the main issue is the lack of a definitive scope of the power - depending on the verse, everything could be encompassed by dimensionality, in which case the user would be considered beyond everything and virtually omnipotent, or dimensionality might not encompass everything, in which case the user's power (despite still being boundless compared to anything bound by dimensionality) could easily be less than some other Beyond-Dimensional existence.
So in essence, because Beyond-Dimensional Physiology is defined as the power to "be an entity beyond all dimensionalities", it's power is relative to what dimensionality actually encompasses. This means it isn't even absolute, let alone an Omnipotence Derivative. Compare this to Omnilock, which is defined as the power to "exist outside of everything". 'Everything' isn't a relative term - everything is everything, encompassing all dimensionality, all fiction, all reality, all powers, logic, limitations, beings, etc. This makes Omnilock an absolute power, as its capabilities aren't relative to anything - you can say that dimensionality doesn't encompass everything, but you can't exactly say that everything doesn't encompass everything.
To illustrate this, consider the interaction of these powers with a different absolute power. Whenever two absolute powers collide, it is almost always impossible to tell which comes out on top, as the definitions of each power should mean that they do, thus resulting in an 'absolute contradiction', so to speak (the only real exceptions to this are explicitly Omnipotent powers, such as Autopotence, Almighty Magic/Science/Mind, etc, all of which are defined as omnipotent in nature). Let's consider Absolute Erasure being used on a user of each of these powers; Absolute Erasure is defined as the power to "completely erase anything/everything on any/all levels".
First, Absolute Erasure against Omnilock. Omnilock, by definition, exists outside of absolutely everything, meaning it should exist outside of the scope of Absolute Erasure. However, Absolute Erasure, by definition, can erase absolutely anything, meaning it has no limit to its scope of reach. Thus, the two powers contradict each other - an 'absolute contradiction' - and it is essentially impossible to tell which would come out on top, if either. On the other hand, considering Absolute Erasure against Beyond-Dimensional Physiology, there is nothing about being 'beyond all dimensionalities' that would prevent the user from being erased by a power that, by definition, can erase absolutely anything completely. There is no contradiction, as Beyond-Dimensional Physiology is not absolute.
Also consider Almighty Laws. These are laws that, by definition, apply to absolutely everything and are completely unbreakable and unbendable. With Omnilock, they exist outside of absolutely everything, do they should exist outside the reach of Almighty Laws and thus be unbound by then, but this contradicts the definition of Almighty Laws, so we can't really say what the outcome would be. However, with Beyond Dimensional Physiology, there is nothing about being beyond all dimensionality that would suggest you are beyond laws that apply to everything.
Linked here is @Ogtea's post discussing possible changes to the power.
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