How would the creating aspect of Absolute Boundary Manipulation work in usage? I know you can create like barriers with it but what else?
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How would the creating aspect of Absolute Boundary Manipulation work in usage? I know you can create like barriers with it but what else?
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Could a user with Absolute-level Boundary Manipulation manipulate boundless things by altering the boundary between the bounded and the boundless? Or is it completely impossible?
What boundary would one have to manipulate to achieve Absolute Life/Death Manipulation with the Absolute scale of boundary Manipulation?
Is it the absolute boundary between all life/all death?
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How come boundary Manipulation has Personal Reality and Solipsistic Manipulation? And how would it work in usage?
What's are some other feats you can do with Physical level boundary Manipulation?
Okay, boundary manipulation…i get it…but can someone…please simplify this power. Please, my idiotic brain is not brainin’ right now.
I have recently gone through the Boundary Manipulation page and made some changes. The most significant one is the addition of levels to the page, which I feel helps make the nature of the power more clear and make various users who are only capable of manipulating a specific type of boundary, or can manipulate boundaries within certain limits, fit better in the page (since it was previously a power that was limitless by nature, or at least capable of altering or removing its own limits, which didn't fit many of the users).
I have also removed a few of the applications which suggested the manipulation of things on either side of a boundary rather than the boundary itself. I have discussed this issue before here, but an example would be somehow using Absolute Force Manipulation by manipulating the boundary 'force/object', or achieving Absolute Life and Death Manipulation by manipulating the boundary between life and death (I don't see how that would allow the user to manipulate all living things and control the causes of death for all things. They could kill or bring life to anything, but more nuanced applications of Absolute Life/Death Manipulation would require more nuanced boundaries than just 'life/death'), or manipulating the fundamental forces by controlling the boundary 'Strong Force/Weak Force'.
In any case, what do you think of these changes?
If you've seen recent wiki activity sometimes or if you've looked at the edit history for the page of boundary manipulation recently. You've probably have saw that I've made a metric shitton of edits to that page. Mainly changing some applications and adding new ones, but I've been thinking of hypothetically giving the page an overhaul, and I mean like a complete revamp. Separating it into different levels (basic/advanced/expert/mastered etc such as on a lot of other pages like Vector Manipulation) or sectioning it (different kinds of boundaries on the page with other applications on each one, like the "branches of metaphysics" thing on Metaphysics manipulation) again, this was just an idea plus I don't even know if I'm allowed to do it since most overhauls like the one I described were on page's that didn't have much effort/care put into them originally and Boundary Manipulation is a pretty fucking detailed page. Anyways, I just want to know any ideas on a potential overhaul and if I'm even allowed to do something like it (little btw even if the wiki would let me do it and ppl think that doing it is a good idea. I might not because I'm lazy as fuck)
TLDR: I'm thinking of revamping the Boundary Manipulation page and want to know people's opinions on me potentially doing it and if I'm even allowed to
How powerful is Boundary Manipulation, exactly? I've read comments suggesting that it can reach Omnipotence? Are there any limitations to BM? I'm just trying to understand it.
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So. The absolute mind page got updated and not gonna lie they got buffed based on how the capabilities said but what interest me is the Application.
I wan't to hear your opinions on the applications of absolute mind. They even add absolute will/Omniarch which is pretty insteresting.
So I've been thinking about Boundary Manipulation recently, and I have a few thoughts on it that I'd like to share and get some opinions on.
First is the idea of differences as a kind of boundary. There are two main definitions of 'boundary' that apply here:
"A limit of something abstract" and "A dividing line".
The second is most applicable for this idea - a boundary is a dividing line that separates two or more things. Similarly, a difference is a dissimilarity between two or more things, and that difference can be considered to be what separates the two. In this way, a difference can be considered a type of boundary that separates the unique nature of two or more things. If there were no boundaries, then there would be no differences, and everything would exist as one thing without any differences. If there was no boundary between existence and nonexistence, then there would be no difference between them and neither would hold any meaning. If there were no boundaries between different places, then everywhere would be a single point, and if there were no boundaries between different times, then 'past', 'present' and 'future' would hold no meaning, with with all time existing as a single, eternal moment.
Because of this, Boundary Manipulation would be able to control the differences between all things by manipulating the boundaries that separate and distinguish them.
Now for the second part. It feels like many of the boundaries that the ability supposedly manipulates to achieve its applications don't actually make sense. Some do, such as manipulating the boundary between fantasy and reality to achieve Subjective Reality (because that is literally what that ability is), or manipulating the boundary between 'here' and 'there' to achieve Meta Teleportation (since the boundary between here and there would represent everything separating the two. As such, manipulating it would allow the user to completely bypass everything separating the two locations, even if the other location is a metaphysical space, and cross between them). But a lot of them don't actually make any sense, such as manipulating the boundary between 'wish' and 'prayer' to achieve Absolute Wish, or manipulating the boundary between 'push' and 'pull' to achieve Absolute Force Manipulation, or the boundary between 'willpower' and 'indecision' to achieve Absolute Will. Others more seeming like a misunderstanding of how the power operates. For example, manipulating the boundary between life and death to acheive Absolute Life Manipulation and Absolute Death Manipulation, when it would more be able to control the difference between them and place things on either side, rather than controlling all life and controlling all deaths and causes of death. There's also manipulating the boundary between creation and destruction to supposedly achieve Omnificence and Absolute Destruction, or manipulating the boundary between matter and anti-matter to achieve Meta Matter Manipulation. These examples seem to operate under the assumption that the power manipulates things on either side of a boundary, rather than the boundary itself.
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tldr: I was trying to find something that could serve as a lesser variation of Boundary Manipulation that could evolve into it over time like how Telekinesis becomes Omni-Manipulation. So, I thought of fields because they're limited by boundaries but it's also a really broad concept/word assuming it could possibly evolve to control that which its bound by. If anyone has any idea, feel free to reply.
I think Force-Field/Barrier Manipulation is a really good one.
And @AzQth I'm going to ping in case you have any ideas.
Idk tf this bottom bit was supposed to be, but I refuse to get rid of it.
So, I've been doing some thinking and recently I've found an interest in Boundary Manipulation but as usual I'm not a fan of instantly having something super op like manipulating the boundary between fantasy and reality or any conceptual and metaphysical boundaries. So, I've been trying to find a power that would be kind of similar to boundary manipulation but not quite on that level or something that could evolve into boundary manipulation. First thing I thought of was Field Manipulation it's still really strong, but it isn't on the level of boundaries I mean it can be depending on how you define the world 'field'.
In most if not all cases fields are still limited by boundaries, for example farmland. The grass where animals go, and graze would be the field while the fencing that prevents the animals from escaping would be the boundary. It acts as the limiter. In physics gravitational or electromagnetic fields have infinite range but the force the charges or masses experience decreases with distance (inverse-square law) so the fields are only as large as the universe so I guess that would be the boundary.
This little bit is mostly my interpretation so idk if Field Manipulation could achieve any of it but it's worth a shot.
I think the most general and amalgamated (idk if amalgamized is a word) definition of a field that I could give would be "an area (physical, metaphysical, mental, abstract, etc...) where something acts/potentially acts, exists/can exist, is stored/can be stored or is interacted with/can be interacted with." might have missed some stuff but it's a very broad concept in essence it's just an area where stuff does its thing within that area whether that be something or nothing. So now if we have two fields that exist in a duality, let's say Chaos and Order. They're both stuffed into a circle (holistic boundary) and are separated by a line (intermediate boundary), in all cases they are bound by their boundaries. A boundary manipulator could be on either side, on the boundary, outside of the holistic boundary and then simply interact with either Chaos or Order by making the boundaries penetrable to them and whatever they allow through. A field manipulator could control Chaos or Order directly assuming they were fields you know with Chaos being a field that disrupts and disturbs pulls the stable to the unstable and Order being a field that enforces compliance and composure pulling the unstable towards the stable.
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