They are all at the same level as Bill Cipher in power but with their own powers and abilities
And they are known as "Obscure Eldritch Entities"
All of the students will have a similar power level, for example, if you chose a Meta power the rest of the students will also have Meta powers. Also if you have an overpowered ability like Truth Manipulation or Absolute Will you can't just drop out, your enrollment and attendance are enforced by the Omnipotent being. The classes will teach you things that will help you use your abilities to the maximum while making sure you don't accidentally destroy reality.
What if you had unlimited, god-like, virtually absolute power, like, let's suppose, Metapotence, but give it a stupid weakness, limitation or side effect. Besides that, what would you do with that power? Speak in the replies!
My stupid limitation would be I can't use my powers in every third week of March, every year.
And what I would do is travel across the omniverse, watching and sometimes interfering in events, and I would relax and testing things on my own earth-like planet in on my own galaxy on my own universe. I would create a counterpart/partner for me and rule my own multiverse with more than 1 million universes (I would be metapotent, so I would have every power so I could do much things, right?). And, when I in the 3rd week of March without my powers, I would live like an ordinary person in one of my universes, to see what happens in the vision of a normal person.
So I stumbled upon the Absolute Wish page and noticed an addition to its limitations.
What you are about to read is my opinion and I’m open to any discussions regarding the matter.
I don’t think this is a limitation because the way I see it, someone wont be able to take away your Absolute Wishing capabilities, with that said, when they undo your wish, you can simply wish for it again.
And I’d like to point out that Absolute Wish is closely related to Metapotence, as they have both been pitted against each other in the past. The only difference is in the wish granting aspect.
In Metapotence’s page, you dont see a limitation stating that ‘Metapotence may be cancelled out by another user of Metapotence‘
Shouldn’t the same go for Absolute Wish?
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In Omnipotence page it's stated there might be just one user of this power. I see sense in this restriction so to avoid two omnipotents conflicting each other. Nevertheless, it seems to me absurd to limit Omnipotence in any way, because isn't it the power to do anything?
I believe there is no more need for this principal. Firstly, two truly omnipotent beings can exist because what does limit God to make another creature omnipotent? Basically, nothing, so negating this fact doesn't work here.
There we have an interesting situation: two omnipotents can co-exist but it's unclear what would happen if they argue and use their powers against each other. Omnipotence is said to be the most powerful so it can surpass anything. One if its aspects is Indeterminacy, the state of unmeasureable scale of power. This is no more the case when two equal combatant cannot defeat each other since they are equal. Since there is no such term as "equal" on omnipotent scale, if they fight, they will both win and loose.
We need to posses Supernatural/Absolute Intelligence to understand how this conflict will go but here how I understand:
Let's assume One True God posses two omnipotent abilities: Nonexistence and Absolute Restoration. Which of this powers are stronger? Yes, you may say Nonexistence is more powerful since it's said in the limitations it cannot reverse it but let's pressume there is some power which is a specialized variation of Omnipotence in Restoration. So, what is more powerful? Since they are both powered with Indeterminacy, we cannot say they are equal. In this case, these abilities are beyond measuring and comparation.
Nevertheless, let's assume God've got two arms: the left one is Nonexistence and tye right one is omnipotent restoration. If God wrestle these arms, what arm will win? You understand my idea: it doesn't make sense to wrestle own arm because the victorious will be that arm which God will choose. And if They choose renew, They can beat the victorious arm. This is exactly the case. If two true omnipotents will fight each other, it will be like God wrestling Their left and right arms. The result will be unpredictable, but the truth is that these creatures need to find the compromise so something could happen.
This way the “Only One” principal changes to “Intergity”: all omnipotents need to share the same ideas to achieve something because if they will conflict, none of the possibilities will happen.
At the same time, these omnipotents may be different embodiments of the same entity linked with Unity. This way my theory turns more to Omni-Creator. If there were many omnipotents, they will form one with Unity that expresses through many embodiments.
So, in previous part of my series I created a paradox related with Omnipotence, which consists if an omnipotent God is capable to break any rule not breaking it in the same time. So, I was thinking about it and here is my response.
Let's assume you watch a reality show which challenges God to do various sorts of actions to prove They are truly omnipotent. The main prize is a luxury car. So, God fulfilled all challenges and there is final ultimate one left. So, the challenge is: God is required to defeat a Meta Fighter without using any possible or impossible power. Since God is omnipotent and therefore can do anything, They easily beats our combatant and win the car. The only question is how They fulfilled the challenge.
God is omnipotent. That means They can do anything limitlessly. Yet the only problem is that it's unclear the scale of Omnipotence. Most of people think that power is on the same level as all others but in truth, Omnipotence is far beyond anything we can assume. Understanding of what I'll be talking is key to understanding why Omnipotence cannot be achieved by any other ability, greatly marking this state of Force among all others.
The key to understand True Omnipotence is Author Authority. This power is defined with an analogy with explains how Omnipotence works fascinatingly. Let's pressume there is an Author who composes a novel. In relation to its creation, the Maker is omnipotent because They can compose literally anything. If the Author decides to compose anything, can any character stop Them? No, since they are all bounded. Can any rule or power within the creation somehow stop Author? Surely, no. Author can compose anything no matter how impossible it is for creation, since the Creator is above it.
So, you see Omnipotence is not power inside the reality but it is outside it. Like Author can compose anything no matter how impossible that us for creation's boundary, God can do anything despite logical contradiction.
So, let's go back to the original paradox: God won a chess game against a grandmaster in an unwinnable position by only moving Their only left king. God is obviously victorious and here's the Rule Paradox:
1. God won the game and didn't break any rule.
2. The rules state it was impossible to win.
So, we might doubt about Omnipotence because we think this power exists within the reality. So, let's see how it is solving through AA: is rule boundary able to stop Author to compose anything? No, the Creator is all-powerful, so They compose this: They are victorious. In other words, Omnipotence is so powerful, so no boundary or natural limitations can stop Them to do anything. This power just exists outside of everything. Yes, this is a logical contradiction, it seems completely impossible for our reality's boundary. Yet Author can compose anything and nothing can stop Them.
So, get my thought: Omnipotence is state of Force far beyond anything. It is unbounded by anything and can do literally anything. God is literally capable to win an unwinnable position, make a 0.5 move in chess, and easily do anything which contradict each other. For example, be dead and alive, omnipotent and apotent at the same time. If you think there's something that limits Omnipotence, you are wrong. Looking at the paradox it seems like God cannot do something impossible without Omnipotence just like an user of Fact Inducement cannot induce a fact without this power. The issue is that we compare Omnipotence with other abilities: if an user of Telepathy is challenged to read someone's mind and is restricted to not use Telepathy itself, the user is incapable to do this, since Telepathy is the only way to do the challenge.
Yet True Omnipotence is not limited by anything. An omnipotent God can do some task which Omnipotence is the only able power without it with ease because They are not bounded by anything. The Author just composes Their victory and it turns true. They can even break the fundamental laws since They only exist while Author confirms them. We are used to think there are some unbendable principles which cannot be broken. They really exist for characters and created world but the Creator exists on completely another plane, They are the One Above All who creates that world. They can compose literally anything and the power of the whole world cannot stop Them.
Omnipotence for existence is as Author Authority for creation. If you write a novel, you are its omnipotent creator, there's nothing that can stop you. If you composed some really powerful character, maybe even almighty, they cannot stop you from doing anything no matter how logically impossible it is. Because you technically can write anything, and since you are the author, all of that is true. Probably, for you all of your creation is not true, it's not real for you. So, you can do anything with that.
This is how Omnipotence really works. God composes anything. For God the whole Omniverse is like a book for us. No power or boundary is real for the Creator. Since all of that is basically composed by them, so Author is above anything They create. This way God can win unwinnable chess game not breaking any rule since They easily composes Their victory and nothing can stop Them. On omnipotent unmeasureable scale nothing is really real or fake.
So, there's no sense to justify this state. Even if I will ever make some principles, which logically explains Omnipotence, this power is able to just break them. So, Omnipotence cannot be reasoned with relative boundary because it is beyond Them. If you compose a book and make a character, which represents yourself (Godly Incarnation) and you will write your character won an unwinnable game, your power to do anything is above anything you create as the author. This is exactly how it works as Omnipotence. This is how God can truly do anything. Just because tgis power is beyond any limitations. Thus I misunderstand how there might be some creation which is not bounded by Grand Design.
At the same time it's unwise to limit the absolutely unlimited and supreme power. Basically, the most common limitation people try to apply in Omnipotence is “the one” which means there might be just one user of this power. Probably, that rule exists in this wiki just to avoid two omnipotents conflicting each other. But we don't need to limit the amount of omnipotent beings in one verse.
Factually, nothing stops God to grant someone True Omnipotence. It means two omnipotents can exist. Think about it as 2 authors: if one story is composed by 2 makers, it doesn't really make difference if it was one. For example, Avatar: The Last Airbender was created by 2 people: Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko. Despite this fact, they were composing like one with common Grand Design. They were like one creator in the form of two. I think they had the same spirit which was expressed through 2 people.
Therefore, in my opinion lots of omnipotents can exist as different embodiments of the same power. So, I offer to change the principal "Only One" with "Unity," which means all omnipotents are fundamentally sharing the same essence that makes them omnipotent.
In this situation, I also offer to make 2 more variations of True Omnipotence: Multipotence and Unipotence.
1. Multipotence is the state of Omnipotence shared among multiple users. If there are 4 embodiments which was unified with God, then the Omnipotence they share is Multipotence.
2. Unipotence is Omnipotence wielded by the only user. If there's just one omnipotent in certain verse, Their Omnipotence is Unipotence.
I see that a lot if people misunderstand how Omnipotence works and thus misinterpret sone aspects such as acquiring this power. So here I decided to make an entry about how Omnipotence truly works. If you don't agree with me, I will be grateful for your feedback.
So, let's start! In Omnipotence original page this power is defined as "supremely almighty and invincible." Let's analyze all three words.
1. Almightiness means its user (aka God) can do literally anything and there's nothing beyond Their might;
2. Invincibility means God cannot be beaten in any way, in any possible and impossible situation God is more powerful than anyone else;
3. Supreme refers this power cannot be perfected or overpowered and there's no force beyond it.
In my point of view, the only difference between a user of various superpowers and an apotent being is that users are induced the state of being able to do something beyond their normal limitations. I will call the capacity to have superpowers “the Force.” It seems to me that there are no multiple powers which grant different abilities, but instead there is one Force whose applications enable user to do super powerful feats. That means the Force is the state of being and its evolution and boundaries bring people to abilities.
Within this concept, Omnipotence is the absolutely supreme and unlimited state of Force. All people, fortunately, understand these features how Omnipotence is marked from all other powers. I see people misunderstand its variations a lot. So, let me explain.
Omnipotence is not an ability, this is the state of Force. Force is where all abilities are originated. So, upgrading the Force one is capable to enhance their powers as well. In this case, Omnipotence is absolutely supreme and unlimited state of Force. All its variations are the same state. The only difference is it is possible to describe what Omnipotence is in many ways. Through those various descriptions we stress different aspects of the same state. They are all equal, so there's no sense to ask which one is the strongest. They are all the same state if Force, remember this.
1. Metapotence is the simplest form. It just means God can do literally anything, and most importantly, despite how contradictional or illogical it is. It means the user can break any logic boundary which makes this variation the ultimate form of Logic Manipulation. So,
Metapotence is Omnipotence through Logic Manipulation.
2. Author Authority is my favourite variation because it explains how powerful Omnipotence and Omnilock really is. Imagine there is an author writing a novel. No matter what the writer will compose, nothing within Their novel can perfect the Author's power and nothing can affect Them. No matter how strong a character is, even with Complete Arsenal it cannot beat the Creator. So,
Author Authority is Omnipotence based on being the Creator of existence and its supreme ruler.
3. Absolute Will is really easy to understand. This variation means God can do anything through Their willpower. Like, They will something to happen, and it happens no matter what it is. Therefore,
Absolute Will is Omnipotence through willpower.
I hope you understand my point. All of the variations are the state which is Omnipotence, while we can describe it via different forms. I mean, there are a lot of non-omnipotent abilities which can range everything and be Omnipotence itself in absolutely supreme and unlimited level. How about some kind of Absolute Imaginafery? Mentifery is the ability to warp the reality through one's thoughts and imagination. If this ability was absolutely supreme and unlimited, it was a variation of Omnipotence. Here's one more instance: there's an ability to grant wishes, it's called Fulfillment Manifestation. If this ability turns absolutely supreme and unlimited, it turns to Absolute Wish, the state of Force to do anything via granting wishes.
So, you see that variations of Omnipotence is the same state which can be described through various descriptions. There might be endless such variations.
Moreover, there is even specialized variations of this power. So, what the heck these specialized variations (SV) are?! In order to answer this question, let's remind my absolute and relative supremacy concept.
What is the strongest combative ability? Basically, it's Meta Combat since it combines Absolute Combat and Logic Manipulation. Such user is endlessly skilled at any kind if combat and, most importantly, they can manipulate logic to do impossible feats through fighting, such as acquiring Omni-Negation. Despite this fascinating power, there is one even stronger which can destroy Meta Fighter in one snap. This is Omnipotence. So, here we see: Meta Combat is the supreme relative power, which means it's the pinnace characters may achieve. At this point, Omnipotence is supreme absolute power, meaning it's authority of the Author.
So, what is SV? In order to respond this question, what is the most powerful ability in Erasure? M, Nonexistence? One can say Omnipotence is stronger than anything, including even Nonexistence, but here is the trap! Nonexistence is Omnipotence specialized in Erasure! That means if God uses Omnipotence in full power to erase anything, this ability will be called Nonexistence.
So, we see. SV is Omnipotence combined with some other ability. For example, Omnificence is the ability to create anything, meaning it's a specialized variation of Omnipotence in Creation. Omnifarious is the ability to transform into any form, which is a SP of Omnipotence in Shapeshifting. Omniarch is the ability to rule everything, which is a SV of Omnipotence in Lordship... And so on...
Let's continue our discussions Omnipotence and reason this power.
As far as we know, Metapotence is power beyond understanding and justificating, it can break any logic boundary and do literally anything. Recently, I had such thought:
Let's assume you are playing a chess game with a grandmaster of this game. Obviously, you will be loosing and in one moment you reach the point when you won't be able to win anymore by definition of the rules. If you know this game, imagine you lost all your pieces and king is the only left. In this situation you decide to cheat and ask your omnipotent friend to finish this game and win it. Since our omnipotent friend is metapotent, they are able to defeat the GM despite the fact that by that moment it is impossible to win it! So, the game is ended as your friend's victory. You question the omnipotent how They did that and what will you hear? That is the question of contradiction between God and rule.
You see, I see God could beat the opponent by some transcendental ways and kinds of Logic Defiance: the user actually looses but They define the end result as Their victory or They says, “I win!” through Fact Inducement and the position on the board magically turns to victorious to Them and the grandmaster says, “I was so close, and you played well” despite the fact originally the position wasn't suitable for your side's victory! This is exactly the power of Metapotence: warp reality as they want and make any statement true by rewriting the existence itself.
Yes, this way is optional. But let's pressume our grandmaster knew it was possible and decides to challenge our omnipotent friend to beat him without these kinds of cheating. Here comes a question I discuss in this blog: Can God win unwinnable game cheatlessly? With only moving one's pieces only? It is a very interesting question. By definition, God is capable to do anything but we haven't clarified one important thing: can God do anything with full potential or can God be limited in any way and still fulfill any challenge? In another words, I state God is able to anything which interchangeably means God is powerful enough to alter any existence to create any result. Unfortunately for God, in some cases there might be just one way to do some challenge. Like in the previous instance with God playing unwinnable game of chess against a GM, Reality Warping in form of Fact Inducement and/or Definition Manipulation seems to be the only possible way to conquer the game. God is omnipotent after all, such term as "unwinnable" doesn't exist for Them! Nevertheless, if we complete our challenge with no Reality Warping, will God be able to do such a feat? Or if we limit God with no Omnipotence?
The challenge is: to win a chess game against a grandmaster without any kind of Reality Warping or other powers which manipulates the truth, rule and definition. The start position is: God have only his king, GM has all pieces.
Since God is metapotent, They must be able to accomplish this task because Their power is defined as capable to do anything. But you know, the challenge is literally “induce fact without Fact Inducement” or “define the truth without Definition Manipulation.” The rule of challenge is literally do something metalogical impossible. If there's just one power to perform a task and its rule does not allow to use it, the task turns impossible.
This is an interesting case and here I will divide Omnipotence into two kinds:
1) True Omnipotence (TO) is capacity to achieve any result;
2) Absolute Omnipotence (AO) includes TO but can also be limited by anything in process.
We see that Omnipotence is absolutely supreme power to do anything. By "doing anything" we understand to make any final result. We don't really interest in how They will do this, we have interest in the result. Omnipotence which can only do anything by achieving certain result is the true one. Yes, there's no result such creature cannot success but They are limited in the prossees how They will do this. Sometimes like in our example, there's one way to achieve certain result. If the challenge will restrict that way as unallowed, God suddenly turn incapable to do this. Nevertheless, if God is absolutely omnipotent, They can do anything by achieving any result and also They can accept any limitations and still be able to accomplish the feat.
So, let's assume God is absolutely omnipotent and therefore the game ends up with Their victory. Grandmaster stares at the chess board with shocked face because God haven't warped the reality and cheated in any way. They beat GM with all pieces with just a king! This is really breaking news in the chess society. Yet chess rules clearly state it's impossible to win game when you have king only. If God didn't voluntary this rule, it is a contradiction:
1. God won game and haven't broken any rule of the game.
2. The rules of chess state God couldn't win in any way in the given situation.
This is truly transcend power! This is Metapotence in its pure form! How can we explain this kind of Absolute Omnipotence? Do you have any ideas? Share your thoughts in comments.
P.S. Originally, I wanted to solve a paradox but it turned out that I created a new one... I am an ironic person.
In the previous part of Metapotence explained! series I discussed the question of Gid possesing two ultimate powers which contradict each other and with that solved the Stone Paradox. This part #2 serves as continuing talking about God* as the wielder of supreme power.
* Like in Part #1, I name a truly omnipotent being “God” in capitals and refer Them as "They."
I remember after a little time after discovering this wiki, I wondered what was the most powerful combative ability. Long time I thought that was Absolute Combat, it's logical since the absolute are those powers which cannot be perfected. But what surprise was when ai found out Meta Combat is even stronger. This brought me the idea I expereyss through this entry.
Omnipotence by definition is the most powerful supreme Force that can be applicated for doing anything. I see people define True Omnipotence as the ability to be able to do anything in this community. Let's assume that an user of Absolute Combat, for example, Sun Wukong from Highschool DxD challenges God as a truly omnipotent being to fight him. God agrees. So, how will that battle end?
Obviously, God will be victorious. The only question is weather God needs to use full power to defeat a Grand Martial Artist. I believe God can simply apply Meta Combat and strike Wukong down immediately because Meta Fighter is basically Absolute Combat and Logic Defiance. That proves one interesting fact I wanted to share with you: in order to achieve certain result, God doesn't necessarily need to use Omnipotence. As we saw in the previous instance, an ultimate combatant can be defeated with simple Meta Fighter — a power a non-omnipotent can acquire.
On this light I see 2 types of supreme powers: relative and absolute. Let's take one more example with combat. What is the supremest combative ability? Here go two possible answers: Meta Combat and Omnipotence. These are two most powerful. Yet Omnipotence is stronger than Meta Fighter. Moreover, it's even stronger than any other power in Omniverse. How is this? I can explain that Meta Combat is relatively supreme ability in combat, which means it can be acquired by a non-omnipotent being. Meanwhile, Omnipotence itself is absolutely supreme power for all fields.
Here's a creative idea for superpower novel: there are 2 types of supreme powers: absolute and relative. The relative ones can be used by non-omnipotents (such as Meta Combat) and the absolute one is Omnipotence. Nevertheless, God being truly omnipotent don't need to use Omnipotence to accomplish any feat. God can use less Their power and still achieve certain result, if it don't need absolute supremacy.
So we have that God isn't limited by Omnipotence and are able to use Their power in lesser form. This is the only message I send.
As we all know Omnipotence is the state beyond our understanding and reasoning. An omnipotent being can do literally anything, there's nothing impossible for It. Yet Metapotence leavea sone questions thanks to what we doubt this power is logically possible. This is Part 1 of Metapotence explained where I will reason this power so we could understand the Transcendence.
One of the most famous and iconic question nullifying Omnipotence is the Stone Paradox (SP):
“Can God* make a rock so heavy that even Themselves won't be able to lift it?”
* I name an omnipotent being “God” in capitals and refer it as "They."
In short, if the answer is yes, then God won't be able to lift it; and if the response is no, God cannot create it. In both cases God happens to not be omnipotent.
This paradox represents the problem of two opposite powers which cannot be both supreme. Let's take an example. Can God erase a frog so it will be impossible to restore it? Here we have Nonexistence opposing Absolute Restoration. The problem is that in our restricted intelligence we think just one of this power can be ultimate, or so it cannot be reversed. We think, “If God can erase a frog ultimately, that means it's impossible to bring it back, therefore Nonexistence is more powerful than Absolute Restoration.” In fact, the same can be said backwards. Virtually, Gid must be able to erase and restore the frog ultimately at the same time, yet we don't believe it's possible. In this wiki it's clearly stated that Nonexistence dominates over Absolute Restoration, so once ultimately erased, even Gid cannot restore the frog (F for frog).
In order to explain how metapotent being is capable to erase and restore anything ultimately, I offer the absolute-relative reality concept. Here's how it words.
1. God is omnipotent. That means They can erase the frog ultimately and at the same time restore it despite being ultimately erased because God is omnipotent.
2. To explain how both powers might be supreme, let's assume the reality is made if two planes.
1) Relative plane (RP) is all existence which is limited in relative terms such as time, space, weakness and power, good and evil, life and death... This is particularly the whole standard reality. It also constantly changes, so anything changeable is part of this plane.
2) Absolute plane (AP) is basically omnilocked reality which exist in absolute terms such as balance, present, isolation (amortality is isolation from life and death) and so on. This is something unchangeable, it us constant. Anything what is forever constant (like existence itself, changes, consequences and absolute powers) are properties of this plane.
3. God is omnipotent, so They can erase and restore anything ultimately. In order to do this, They wield two AP's abilities: Nonexistence and Absolute Restoration. If God erases a cat ultimately, no power in the relative plane won't be able to bring it back. Even God using relative powers (through Complete Arsenal) won't be capable to do this. But They success with Absolute Restoration.
Here's my idea is that when we split the reality into absolute and relative planes, ultimate action turns to so action that cannot be reversed (by any relative ability). If God erases a frig ultimately, They are still able to restore it yet nothing else can restore it. This way we confirm two absolute abilities to be equal.
Now let's resolve the Stone Paradox. Can God make a rock so heavy that even Themselves won't be able to lift it?
Within our theory, yes, Hod can create such stone with Omnificence (Absolute Creation). God can make an ultimately unliftable rock. That means that nothing in the relative plane can lift it: no force, no power, naught. Even all energy in Omniverse combined can't lift it because God made it unliftable. Furthermore, even God in RP cannot lift it. But in the AP God is omnipotent that makes Them able to cancel ultimate action and lift it with Kineticpotence (Absolute Telekinesis).
In conclusion we see God's power in RP is limited like the plane itself and in AP it is not because the plane isn't. Sure, this explanation requires God to posses both absolute and relative powers. Complete Arsenal can be redefined as collection of all relative abilities and Omnipotence as state if all absolute ones.
So, Metapotence explained! #1 resolves the Stone Paradox and reasons how opposite absolute powers are both supreme. It uses the following assumptions:
1. God is omnipotent, which means They can undo ultimate action.
2. Reality consists of 2 planes, whose powers are different in terms (absolute and relative).
3. Ultimate action is so it cannot be reversed by any relative powers but it can be undid with absolute ones.
4. God posses both absolute and relative powers in form if True Omnipotence and Complete Arsenal.