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And once the electromagnetism manipulator generates the electrons, they would compress the electrons and then hurl them at their target?
Alright alright, im sorry
Logic Defiance lets the user do impossible stuff. But how does the user control their tremendous power of ignoring logic? Do they just achieve their feats by having a desire to do it, and they won't really need to exert much effort?
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You mean something like if total conversion could eventually be used on an immaterial/metaphysical level?
I know there's Meta-Variable Manipulation and Primordial Force Manipulation, but I feel like they don't lead to full-degree absolute change. Either way, are there any manipulation powers other than Primordial Force Manipulation and Meta-Variable Manipulation that could lead to Absolute Change to a full degree?
Can absolute law manipulation also manipulate limits that someone has and manipulate their limits?
That feels too strong kinda. Maybe I'm just underestimating Absolute Law Manipulation lol
No, since it can't affect whatever's outside of reality such as dreams, fantasies, etc. There's also some powers that make one immune to reality warping.
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What would happen if a user of Absolute Law Manipulation was to erase every single one of their own limits/laws?
True, but on the top of the page it says "Absolute version of Logic Manipulation" and in the applications, it also says "Omnipotent logic manipulation", which implies that Metapotence is just logic manipulation scaled by infinity
I do agree with you on the fact that Logic Manipulation should be more of an absolute version of Logic Defiance though, not logic manipulation. But I just used the definitions of the power to answer this question
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Well, Metapotence says "Absolute/Meta/Transcendence/Perfect Logic Manipulation" or something in its "Also Called" section lol. You do have a point though, Metapotence sounds more like an absolute version of Logic Defiance.
I just like to think of Metapotence as Omnipotence entirely focused on logic manipulation, or an infinite version of logic manipulation in other words, which brings me to the answer of this question:
Since Metapotence is called "Omnipotent logic manipulation", it's just logic manipulation scaled by infinity. So let's say the logic manipulator tweaked logic to make himself absolutely invincible and immortal. Well, since the potency of the Metapotent's logic manipulation is infinite, the Metapotent being won't care and can still kill the logic manipulator easily because the power of their logic manipulation would overpower the regular logic manipulator. GG
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Lol true, but meta-power immunity may also include Causality Immunity, which causality manipulation can bypass if it's potent enough. My guess is that it'll just depend on the strength of the almighty magic & causality manipulation users.
Could you explain your reasoning to me? I'm curious about this
Tetralogy feels way too powerful to be a sub-power of Totality Manipulation. Maybe I'm just underestimating Totality Manipulation I guess lol
By "almighty powers", I meant powers like Omni-Manipulation, Almighty Science, Almighty Magic, Almighty Mind, etc.