@Rulefiji Unless I can somehow force myself above the Proxyverse( the place where Swans live in and get their powers ) with my plot Manp Its gonna be a stalemate
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Am Back! Anyways If We’re Useing The Strongest Versions Of Both Then Scp 096’s assassin Form, One Shots
Yeah, nothing can be done here scene your capping him multiversal, even tho he has scales, putting him Way Above That Just Seems Unfair Towards Supes.
Yeah Am Prob Gonna Try To Stay Out The Franklin Debates Until Later.
@Ludwigkoopa7000 2.O Lmao fine May Have Been A Bit Rude but keep in mind am not the one who lost their temper and Started trying to Ad hominem, he also came after me for a Single grammar mistake as a refutation. Srry For The Huge Debate On Your Thread.
As The Creator Of The Thread Has Wished Am Gonna Move On From This Discussion And As Always my Discord Is Open
Nah 4
-Your not even arguing for GOLB, you failed to provide any scale that gets him that high or anything that shows He Scales to the griever so Franklin One Shots Or Wipes Him From Existence
- I already proved he can one shot GOLB
- As for the "implications and outliers" I already proved my interpretation holds more weight then yours so your argument fails to go through and none of what I have shown are at all outlier Franklin Does This Stuff On The Regular and I already provide the Context And Scans
- I Already Had A Refutation Two Times On Why Franklin Can By Pass GOLB's immoraity
- Damn Your Coping Hard That You Lost Lmao how you gonna call me the Fanboy, When you cant even debate your own character and Even Then When You Got Off Topic You Still Got Beaten So Badly You Resort To Pathic Attempts Of Ad Hominem
Also, its quite a hassle to read A Huge paragraph Can You Try To Format It Into Bullet Points lol
No one said anything about Galactus being omnipotent, but bro is still folding GOLB.
I already proved the griever does not scale to Franklin, and why my implication carries more weight.
Mortal or not, he's still above the griever. Also, even immortals can die under certain circumstances.
The point is Franklin had been weakened, meaning the griever does not scale to Franklin at all.
The personification of chaos or not, if you don't have the scaling to back it up, there's just gonna be fodder.
The scaling of a character is the most important thing when it comes to who would win in different verses or not.
GOLB and his immortals, as I explained, don't scale to Franklin's level, meaning he can just one-shot.
Simply put, Ice King's crown is not on the level of Franklin, who, as I proved, is higher than the whole verse.
Vsbw is not canon to Franklin at all. However, if you need proof of conceptual manipulation (via manipulating the Nexus of All Realities, which was stated to embody concepts throughout its core functioning), magic at its core concept involves concept manipulation, and he has made and unmade magic in a variety of forms in Marvel. Even then, as I have said before, you're gonna have to scale GOLB and his immortality.
"Golb is nigh-omnipresent" even if he was omnipresent That Doesnt Scale Him Anywhere At All Unless You Cn Get The Cosmoogly Higher Then The Scale I Have Agrued For Franklin which at this point Is Higher Then The One You Provided.
Your Not arguing For GOLB at all you never scaled him anywhere and half way through you jumped ship and started arguring For The Grevier Own Way Or Not
If You Still Wanna Argue Franklin vs The Grevier Am Willing To Settle It On Discord Since Your No Longer Agrueing For Franklin Vs Golb.
At this point I would agree its unrelated to the post due to him no longer arguing for GOLB rather than the griever.
Again, both being threats to the multiverse does not at all prove any scaling to each other since its like comparing a child to an adult. Both can easily kill an ant, but that doesn't mean there are same footing unless you have scaling or feats getting him there doesn't matter how similar they may seem. Also, the whole second part of your refutation is assumption with no proof( you did not send any scans to back it up so its a 50/50 equation interpretation so your argument doesn't go through) Regardless the franklin that was one shot was weaked meaning that She doesn't scale off him. She had to wait for Franklin to lose his powers, and she also called it his "reign," which can be defined as possessing or exercising sovereign power, in this case being the multiverse. Also stop down playing him to a "mortal" that doesn't weaken him at all he still has the scaleing to win.
Ex: due to the fact she was specifically waiting for his powers to end, while not viewing someone like Owen Reece as a credible threat , and didn't dare confront him until after his role was done as "The Shaper" Also, So not only is that weaker Franklin but also not Even A Full Powerd Adult Version, btw You Never Scaled GOLB To Any Of their Levels
was heavily implied to be a threat and likely far stronger even then keep in mind this is not a adult franklin, even then nothing you sent proves the griever at the end of all thing scales to Ck Lmao