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I added all of these things to better expand on the Paradox and Archangel. I don't need it to be deleted because a kleptophobic moron can't share the limelight.


The trolling article

Why is it merely a candidate for deletion? it's the work of imageboards, they're not going to protest it - hbell, if you ask them, you'll probably just get responses like "YOU MAD." I know, I go to /v/. I say skip the candidate for deletion and delete the trolling article outright. 62.252.178.158 22:07, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Ball Manipulation

You dont have to delete the page Ball Manipulation....all it needs is some few changes on the info and a rename like Spherical Mimicry or Ball Mimicry or something like that....

I think this power is cool, in many sports you are using ball to play, you can easily win in football,volleyball,ping pong,golf,billard,tennis,paintball,baseball and casino roulette because ball decide you wni or lose money, in winter nobody will strike you by snowballs, so DON'T DELETE .

Platform Creation

I took a game from tumblr to see what superpowers I have and I ended up with Platform Creation which I am certainly proud of so please don't delete it.

Omnipotent Flame

This power was very informative and aided me in creating an amazing character concept for which i won in a manga concept contest, it was amazingly useful to me. I'm unsure if it will ever assist someone the way it did me, but lightning never strikes in the same place twice; unless there is a lightning rod there.67.230.71.28 03:03, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Paint Manipulation

I think this would be a good power to have, especially for those of us that are only good at art. This would be the only power I would probably excel at, so please, don't delete it. I'm very proud of this power, and would definatly use it.

E Convert

It's a sub power for pete sake it shouldn't be deleted and there are people with only that power.

Peanut Butter Manipulation / Arachis Hypogaelingualism

Aside from making me laugh when I first got to the page, it would really make an awesome power. It could be used for humor, but could legitimately kill someone who's in the middle of swallowing a bite of PB&J. I have a personal vendetta against someone who's allergic to peanuts, so this could actually come in handy...

69.169.167.120 08:13, October 6, 2011 (UTC)headrush

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Adding Peanut Whispering to this, as it's a related page. Whilst the power is completely ridiculous, it is a power that has as much potential to exist as many of the others do. Peanut Butter Manipulation should likely be deleted, as this 'Arachis Hypogaelingualism' appears to cover everything that it did,but in a proper way.

It could be made a tad more serious, but shouldn't be candidate for deletion, anyways.

~Pteraclaww. /Keepers gonna keep. Reapers gonna reap. 13:50, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Is this inactive?

We have quite a lot of articles to be deleted, yet nobody is taking action. Why even have this category if it's going to be ignored? Yatanogarasu 00:16, December 23, 2011 (UTC)

The Wiki administrators are no longer active. As such, the best we've been doing is renaming the pages something along the lines of '[Delete this page]' and be rid of its contents. ~Pteraclaww

Well, now that we have a new admin, can we start deleting everything? Not rushing, just wanna know. Yatanogarasu 07:23, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, can we also delete all the unused images and duplicates? Yatanogarasu 07:26, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Christ Physiology

Hey guys, delete it.


But not everyone believes that. try not no push your belief onto others,please

I think Miracle performing and Divine Providence are good and almighty superpowers they just need more explanation thats all

SEMI INVULNERABILITY dont delete it u need to expnad the wikia dont delete agricultural mastery dont delete it expand the wikia

Enhanced Rhythm & Rhythmic Combat

Why exactly are these candidates for deletion? :|

Faceass (talk) 02:41, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Ok Faceass, read this closely. Having a greater or perfect sense of rhythm than the average schmuck is in no way a supernatural, superhuman, or all around extraordinary ability. Rhythmic Combat is up here for the same reason. Unless you want me to go into further or longwinded details to emphasize that point, I suggest you leave it at that. Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 02:51, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

Gossip Reaction

Is there something wrong with the page?

89thWarrior (talk) 13:23, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, a myth about gossip and sneezing does not belong here as it is not some super-ability or some inhuman skill. It's a corny myth.Consus, the Erudite God (talk) 13:27, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Corny myth ot not Consus, it could have been still "CONSIDERED" as a power... please how about make it a power itself? I know it's funny but you can actually put this power on category "Silly Powers". And also, in the capabilities area, I made it to a point that it sounds like a power rather than a corny joke... sorry for the corny-ness I did..

Mobile Puppetry

My page is somewhat no reliable, you can delete it anytime. :) Magaruradyne (talk) 11:17, November 10, 2013 (UTC)

Soul Forging

my page has had major overhauls and rewriting so i would it to be considered to take it off from candidates for deletionAzuchi67 (talk) 13:43, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

Delete all Fanons

I say all pages that fall under the categories of Category:Fanon Power and no known users should be deleted. It seems people are just making up powers there and they have no genuine users, and therefore not real powers any time soon. Fan-made powers are not exactly well made anyways, as most of those pages are left with crude edits that are rarely cleaned up later. Yatanogarasu (talk) 23:03, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, reword, anything that doesn't have a genuine user, should be deleted, as they are simply sitting there with no users there, seems blank and dull. Yatanogarasu (talk) 23:24, June 18, 2015 (UTC)

Bump. Yatanogarasu (talk) 20:50, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Hello? Yatanogarasu (talk) 04:23, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

Absolute Psionic Power

unfortunately kuo has decided psionics shouldnt go fiurther than N OP and since my psycho potence page is already at N OP as well as having been well established by now its essentially just a copy of my page except all it does is depower mine (for some unknown reason known only to kuo) as such i am submitting it for candidates for deletion as it doesnt actually add anything new not even an additional layer of power it just knocks everything down 1 peg.


just an update i edited my page to incorporate APP as a courtesy to the creator but thats really all i can think of to help them.

The demonic undead page doesn't need to be deleted. If there's an Angelic-Undead page, then an demonic-undead page is needed as the demonic opposite. May I know why it's a candidate for deletion?









Author avatar physiology


Why is this page being deleted there are users like Akria toriyama and others, why it doesn't break any rules.

Imperial Dragon Physiology Why is it being deleted (D-ULTRA)


Imperial Dragon Physiology

Why is this a canadate for deletion (D-ULTRA)


Why Multicolored Lightning Manipulation?

I realize it needs work but if it's deleted I'm never going to be able to work on it at all and I don't currently have the time to work on it day in day out, what's stopping someone else from editing the page and adding the changes it needs themselves anyway isn't that why the edit button is always open, what gives? 

Cr3perpikmin (talk) 02:38, April 22, 2018 (UTC)Cr3perpikmin

Absolute Mastery

I think it just needs to refined a bit more and nerfed slightly For examaple 

Absolute Mastery user can master any and all abilities with no effort

User may not have all abilities to master just one

Etc. could use some cleanin up MYTHNERD (talk) 22:41, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

Fictional Energy Manipulation

Please i'll change the page please don't delete this. What do i need to do?Trey Davis (talk) 19:35, August 10, 2019 (UTC) Please Admins contact me i will change the page this is my first page please tell me what to do to fix it it needs a few edits but please tell me why to you want this gone.Trey Davis (talk) 19:48, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

Ultimate Hybrid Physiology/Multi-Hybridism

Those two Idea for both naturally and genetic hybrids

also: Ultimate Hybrid for all physiology

not two or more like this Chimerism or this Hybrid Physiology

Ooo366 (talk) 19:58, August 10, 2019 (UTC)

The ' Power Via Food' page is not a mess anymore, just needs more examples now.

Tommy T 28 (talk) 21:43, September 21, 2019 (UTC)Tommy T.

Milk Generation and Mammalian Physiology

I greatly disagree in their deletion, Mammalian Physiology is fundamental power in itself not just because user can mimic/transform into any potential kind of mammals, but also for all other physiologies that involves mammals which root that that same page.

Milk Generation is also fundamental as well for Milk Manipulation, and all other sub-powers and variations. I understand that the ability to generate milk may be close to reality but what's wrong with that it still counts as a power especially with many legitimate users. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 07:16, April 28, 2020 (UTC)

Deleting Mammalian Physiology sounds pretty excessive. You might as well delete all of the variations as well. With the requirements there, you might as well get rid of things like Blood Generation, Hair Generation, Skin Generation, etc. It just sounds ridiculously over the top. In terms of Milk Generation, sure people can generate milk, but can they create Cream (Charlotte Opera), Whipped Cream (Milcery & Alcremie), Butter (Charlotte Galette), Ice Cream (André/Glaciator), etc. This is overkill. Kusarigama (talk) 00:08, April 29, 2020 (UTC)

I also disagree with their deletion, mostly for the same reasons already stated. I mean, plenty of RL "powers" are already listed on this wiki, some of which qualify more as skills than actual powers. Besides, how many people IRL can use the variants that Kusarigama mentioned? Timjer (talk) 07:52, April 29, 2020 (UTC)

Mammalian Physiology unique users: Funkfreed, a sword, Lassoo, a gun, Bunbuku, a teapot, and Pierre, a bird,  from One Piece. Albedo (via Omnitrix and Ultimatrix) in Ben 10. Pain and Panic from Disney's Hercules. Just some examples of non-human/non-mammals using the power. Kusarigama (talk) 03:04, April 30, 2020 (UTC)


So, Mammalian Physiology is officially off the chopping block at this point. It's been changed around a bit to reflect that the power is meant to refer to non-human Mammals, and so it's fine. Worth noting is that a page being the parent of many other pages isn't a good reason to not delete the page - that's what categories are for. Pages can be re-parented. All pages on the wiki need to stand up on their own as a power. This is no longer a problem for Mammalian Phys. Milk generation has also been fixed, as it's now been noted to not just be the power to lactate (which wouldn't be a power), but the ability to produce amounts of milk that a human would be physically unable to do. Remmber that Candidate for Deletion isn't just a category saying "Oh, we need to delete this now!", it's a category saying "This need to be changed and if it can't be fixed to remedy the problem probably deleted". The reaction to seeing that tag should not be anybody raging, it should be you examining WHY the power was put there and working on resolving it if it can be resolved. @Kusarigama Milk Generation was never able to make those other things. It makes milk, not ice cream. You could use that milk to make Ice Cream, the power doesn't make ice cream. @Timjer, other pages existing that have a problem doesn't mean we should keep problem pages. It means we need to deal with the other problem pages AND the page in question. Pages that represent skills a normal real person could have aren't powers and need to be dealt with - either via deletion, or by fixing the power to fit within the Minimum Requirements for a power.. Necrotifice (talk) 07:01, May 6, 2020 (UTC)


Kineti-Telekinesis

the user uses movement to control something by emulating telekinesis~~User talk:Arquetion

Training Regimen and Yoga

Yoga; May be exercise routine, buts also apart of a spiritual system for training to obtain new found powers I see no reason why it should be deleted.


Training Regimen; is the circumstance in which one develops incredible abilities and powers through extensive training why deleat this at all there are other powers that involve circumstances in obtainment, their is no reason for deletion. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 23:12, May 4, 2020 (UTC)

I wasn't expecting this to be the case. Seems kind of arbitrary. The systems involved in Training Regimen (various forms) and Yoga (specialized) in fiction have been shown to enable the manifestation of specialized abilities. If this were to be the case, you might as well eliminate some of these powers as well: Ninjutsu, Shamanism, State of Mind, Tranquil State, Image Training, Voodoo.  Any of these involves preparation, personal development and results in supernatural powers. Kusarigama (talk) 00:14, May 5, 2020 (UTC)

My point exactly so why involve them at all their good powers Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 00:18, May 5, 2020 (UTC)

Training Regiment and Yoga both have a serious problem, and it's that they are not powers - they are SOURCES of a power. On their own they don't really DO anything. Maybe some other page LIKE that exists on the wiki now, but if they do they shouldn't. They aren't a power themselves because they violate Requirement 2 of the Minimum Requirements of Superpower - anybody can train. Training isn't a power, it's a way you can become better. Yoga violates

Yoga is a spiritual path in REAL LIFE that people actually follow. For that matter, so is Shamanism - that just refers to animist faiths in general which includes things from many western Pagan faiths to Shinto. So yeah, maybe we should delete Shamanism and rename it to, like, Shamanic Magic. Because having magic abilities as a result of your shamanism is a power, but being a person who trafficks with spirits is just a form of spiritualism. For that matter, the same could be said of Voodoo. There are actual voodoo practitioners in real life, and elements of it can be found in the faith of Santeria. Voodoo Magic, fine. Voodoo itself? Maybe it should get renamed to Voodoo Magic. So yeah, Kusarigama, you have it exactly right. I think we need to fix those as well.

Necrotifice (talk) 07:25, May 6, 2020 (UTC)

I agree that there needs to be some clarification in defining some powers, but I don't think that they all require name changes. The names are already recognizable and give a sense of what one can expect from a power. To that end, one must remember that this about powers; that they are (whether explicit or implied)  demonstrated to enable fictional abilities. You clarified the fictional limits of Milk Generation. Other organic powers have that. The same can be said of powers like Spiritual Meditation, Spiritualism, etc. Heck, one could even include the (not that you should). Even some of the energy powers are demonstrated in real life, but they are shown to have fictionalized demonstrations and capabilities. And their names seem to fit them just fine. Just a thought. Kusarigama (talk) 11:39, May 6, 2020 (UTC)

Or perhaps, add the clarifier in powers that these are made-up versions that have been demonstrated to enable superhuman abilities in fiction. An idea. Kusarigama (talk) 12:09, May 6, 2020 (UTC)

Kineti-Telekinesis

Kineti-Telekinesis is about kinetic energy! not kinetics! Kinetic energy means energy made from movement/motion. Ask anyone! 

This power is using kinetic energy to manipulate matter, telekinesis is the power to use mind to manipulate matter. I don't see problem. This is just variation of ergo-telekinesis. They are similar because both are focus on moving matter itself in precise way but they have different  sources of power. Telekinesis is power which depend on the power of the mind, Kineti-telekinesis is the power which is using energy from movement so this is the purest form of ergo-telekinesis in my opinion. So this power  should be NOT deleted.

Preparation Time Intuition

Prep Time is not much of a power but a ability that Batman uses to outwit his enemies. It shouldn't be deleted.

See this: [1]

Well, as you've said yourself, Prep Time isn't really a power. If it's not a power, it doesn't belong on the superpower wiki. Not all abilities go on the wikia. If you're not sure on the minimum requirements you might be confused as to why I put this power in CfD. If that's the case, I really recommend you check the Requirements for Superpowers (which you can find at https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Superpower_Wiki:Requirements_for_Superpowers_%26_Their_Users )

Also, please remember to sign your posts on larger discussion pages Nengyko. Otherwise it gets really hard to figure out who said what. You can do so by putting four "~" characters, which you can make by pressing Shift and the button under Escape. Altnernatively, you can press the Signature button up top.

Necrotifice (talk) 21:08, May 9, 2020 (UTC)

Handicapability

I can respect the sense of unnecessary inclusion with regards to the article. It is understandable. With that, I don't believe deletion is the required course for this power. To "be at peak physical and/or mental condition despite being physically handicapped;" if that is the problem, you might as well delete all of the Peak Powers. Those are all regular, attainable abilities. I am not say that those need to be eliminated. NOT AT ALL! I am simply saying, one needs to be considerate of the circumstances. If the peak powers exist (which are capable of being reached in real life), then wouldn't it be considered even a little superhuman for someone who is somehow diminished  to be capable of equal skill and ability. A blind person having the same combat skill as a sighted person. A paraplegic capable of tremendous strength despite not having lower body leverage and stability. There are intact people who could not even hope to manifest such abilities on their own while intact.


That being said, considering this is a power based on circumstance, one might want to reconsider other abilities based on state of being (Equipment Usage - you need equipment, Blindsight - willingly or unwillingly take away eyesight, Enhanced Memory - been born with eidetic recall capabilities, Old Prime/Child Prodigy - perfectly understandable, Dependency - lots of people there.). The new rule here just seems too limiting. Takes away from the possibility of new powers. If that is not enough to reconsider things, one might add the understanding of one demonstrating supernatural abilities in spite of handicaps. In that regards, plenty of Users would still be applicable. Kusarigama (talk) 23:34, May 9, 2020 (UTC)

Don't compare apples and oranges, and quit saying "If we need to this to Page X, then what about this whole bunch of other powers!". Kuo pulled that crap constantly and it's made the entire wikia worse for it.  We're talking aobut Handicapability, not Blindsight or Enhanced Memory. If you think that my argument is based around "a power based on circumstance" you have no understanding of why I put CfD on that page in the first place. You're blowing it out of proportion, and I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're smart enough to realize that. Address my actual points, don't try to shift the point to something it's not.

Sometimes powers actually should get deleted. If this power is just "Oh, they have Peak Human X despite a disability" (i.e. Peak Human Strength despite being disabled) then I'd say they just have Peak Human Strength. Being disabled AND strong isn't a separate power any more than having brown eyes AND having PH Strength.

If the power is "Oh, they can do everything their disability would stop them from doing despite being disabled!" then they aren't REALLY disabled anymore. A person who is "blind" but can see everything around them isn't ACTUALLY blind, because blind means you can't see and they can see. A person who is paraplegic but their power gave them super-strength legs that let them move isn't actually paraplegic. In those cases the people aren't disabled. To be disabled literally means to be less able - if you are equally or more able to do a thing as a normal person, you aren't disabled anymore! In that case, this power is null because it no longer describes a person with a disability.

Necrotifice (talk) 02:27, May 10, 2020 (UTC)


You know it doesn’t always have to end in deleting a certain power just because they are somewhat the same with some difference. Before deleting a page why not try to see if it’s good enough to be a variation? If it doesn’t meet Those requirements then you could think about deleting the power.

Both powers are about having peak human strength or abilities but one Has its circumstances and one is not.

So why not give it a chance to be a variation if it can be. If it doesn’t meet those requirements either then deletion may be required if anyone else doesn’t have anything to say about The power in question. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 02:58, May 10, 2020 (UTC))

I disagree. Handicapability has a lot of potential for the disable and honesty it it shouldn't be deleted at all. Why should it be it really shows ones potential regardless on their one physical handicaps and disable potential. If anything it's should be supported to stay Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 04:32, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

@PirateKing777 first of all, about 75% of powers I've added to CfD do not get deleted. Most of the stuff here just gets reworked and then fixed. As to why not give it a chance, Handicapability up before when we were first discussing the Requirements for a Superpower. It was pretty well agreed to not be a valid power, but it just never got deleted.

@Dragon-fox7 as a person who spent two years in a wheel chair, I have to disagree with you there. However, that's not the reason this power is a problem. I don't know why you're asking why this power is in CfD when I put my reasoning for that in the CfD template? If you've forgotten it you can check the CfD template listed there again. If it's still not clear, I recommend you re-familizarize yourself with the Requirements for Superpowers, being that it is part of a Content Moderator's job to be awarethose and make sure content on the wikia is within acceptable terms. Beyond that, you can see my reasoning above in response to Kusarigama.

https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Superpower_Wiki:Requirements_for_Superpowers_%26_Their_Users

Ya umm First I'm really sorry about that @Necrotifice I didn't know that, but Handcapability has so many legitimate users and the Trope Badass Handicap helps support it, but I can try to update it for the better like I did many other abilities like Mammal physiology Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 05:05, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

Tropes are not superpowers. That trope does nothing to support it, if anything it helps to delegitimize it as somethign that should get shuffled on off to the Archetypes namespace. It's not a power.

Necrotifice (talk) 22:48, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

Disability Compensation

Handicapability I can kind of understand people wanting to delete, but Disability Compensation is a legitimate power. It's a variation of Power Gain, essentially, like how Daredevil got a faceful of radioactive waste; he went blind, but the rest of his senses were ramped up to superhuman levels. 

Also, and wanting it deleted because it does "nothing on its own"? You could say the same about just about every damn page in the Power Sources category, since they basically do nothing on their own as well. Smijes08 (talk) 16:43, May 11, 2020 (UTC)



You say that like it's a counter argument, but the Power Sources legit are also not powers. That's the entire point of the Requirements for Superpowers - rooting out things that are not powers. Power Sources are definitionally not powers. At best Disability Compensation is a trope, and I could maybe see it getting moved off to the Archetypes namespace when we get it. Necrotifice (talk) 19:58, May 12, 2020 (UTC)

I'd edited the capabilities on Handicapability to make it more fitting, I hope it's enough to keep it from deletion Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 22:29, May 12, 2020 (UTC)

Almighty Dependency

I’ll just kick this off.

Ok so the description of Nigh-Omnipotence is the power to have almost supreme power. All the users listed in this power are not exactly on the same level they’re just all powerful with some limitation or A certain restriction that prevents them from being truly omnipotent. This limitation could be various depending on the verse that’s why there’s so many limitations.

Nigh-Omnipotence is more of an “ In general” Power than its own independent power that only a couple users have.

AD is Is a form/variation/expression of Nigh Omnipotence meaning it’s a change or a different take of the original. One notable difference is that a user of AD absolutely must be monotheistic deities while Nigh-Omnipotence users aren’t limited to that.

It doesn’t matter if the power is not common enough to take on its own page. As there are powers on this wiki that aren’t really common at all however there are a lot of users of those certain powers that aren’t really users(if they do the research).

The power is not some made-up idea by the page creator but it actually is an inspiration from an actual character making it a valid power. This was the same thing with Ultipotence as it’s creation was originally inspired by the beyonder from marvel comics. (these are the words from the page creator.)

Ultipotence No matter how you look at it is still also a variation or The ultimate expression of Nigh-Omnipotence as well. Does that mean that should be Deleted it because of that reason? no. Because it’s a variation or if you want to look at it from a different perspective like viewing it as just a power only version of omnipotence making a unique and stand out. AD may not stand as much but it can also be looked upon by two perspectives. One being that it’s just be nigh Omnipotence or True Omnipotence in a stable existence. One requirement to be a user of omnipotence is that the user must be a monotheistic deity as well. This is a similar rule with AD effectively making it stand out if you want to look at it from this perspective.

There was a similar problem with eternal transcendence and Meta Transcendence as both are variations of each other or a different takes of the same thing. There are plenty of powers that are variations of each other on this wiki.

This is no exception. (TheShiningOne (talk) 06:02, May 14, 2020 (UTC))


Just gonna respond to this:


"It doesn’t matter if the power is not common enough to take on its own page. As there are powers on this wiki that aren’t really common at all however there are a lot of users of those certain powers that aren’t really users."


The difference is that other rare powers aren't basically just another already existing power. If they are, they should also get the CfD treatment. It's okay to have powers that are very specific, just not when there's another power that already covers them.


"The power is not some made-up idea by the page creator but it actually is an inspiration from an actual character making it a valid power. This was the same thing with Ultipotence as it’s creation was originally inspired by the beyonder from marvel comics. (these are the words from the page creator.)"


Nobody said it was a made-up idea by the page creator. I think it's probably an extrapolation of a single specific quote from TOAA taken a bit too literally. That being said, it being inspired by a specific character does not alone make it a valid power - it also has to satisfy the requirements of being a power. Part of that is also not being too specific, and not being specific to a singular world/verse. The specificity of the power makes it a bit too narrow - less a power itself and more the expression of that power as used by a specific individual. If this was a variation of NOP that showed up frequently in fiction, I'd be defending us keeping the page.


"Ultipotence No matter how you look at it is still also a variation or The ultimate expression of Nigh-Omnipotence as well.


There was a similar problem with eternal transcendence and Meta Transcendence as both are variations of each other or a different takes of the same thing. There are plenty of powers that are variations of each other on this wiki."


Eternal Trans. and Meta Trans. are actually different powers, though similar and with subtle difference. Eternal Trans. is based on a specific SCP, and the main difference with it is that you are always transcending forever. You can't really control it, you just keep going forever. MT is Transcendence, except that you can choose to stop or go back, and you can choose which things you transcend. Think of MT as best case scenario and ET as an eternal nightmare where you can never stop becoming "above" the things you see and even yourself. My source for this is a discussion with Nekron2 and DYBAD. Nekron2 is an admin who does a lot with OP powers, and DYBAD is a Content Moderator and the creator of MT. I had this discussion because I actually did try to merge them, thinking they were too similar. You can also see these changes reflected in the ET page.


Necrotifice (talk) 06:53, May 14, 2020 (UTC)

Well I did some looking around and saw that Nekron2 was the one who actually approve the power in the first place. The page creator even asked if the power was covered by existing power and Nekron2 replied no. The Page Creator was also sure to mention that this power was a variation or expression of Nigh-Omnipotence. So I guess we need Nekron’s view of the matter before proceeding.

“I think it's probably an extrapolation of a single specific quote from TOAA taken a bit too literally.”

This quote is supposed to be taken literally. If it wasn’t then the one above all wouldn’t have been knocked out of being a user of Omnipotence.

The only problem seems to be that the power is just too “Verse-Specific”. Which shouldn’t be much of a problem.

But anyway it’s kind of getting late and I’m feeling kind of sleepy. I’ll continue this later.(TheShiningOne (talk) 07:15, May 14, 2020 (UTC))


Right, and I disagree with Nekron on this one. As I said in the comments, Admins are not gods. Quit trying to invoke their names as magic words of righteousness. Debate the idea, quite citing some person who agrees with your point as evidence for your argument. It isn't, admins (myself included) are just editors with more buttons.

What I say when I mean I think it's taken too literally is that the power was originally written as a user being OP within a stable system, and the idea of a "system" was being focused in on very hard. What I interpreted him to mean is that the cosmic balance has been knocked off kilter and as a result the pillars of his omnipotence were collapsing. It's nothing to do with "systems" specifically. The rewrite to AD has less of a problem with this, focusing more on reality being in check, but it still seems like it's description focuses a lot on that word system there.

You say the only problem seems to be that the power is too verse specific, but then you also say that shouldn't be much of a problem. I disagree, that's a big problem. This is esentially a power crafted to just be used by TOAA. Powers shouldn't be that specific. This is covered under the RfS's Further Requirements on two counts - a power too specific, and it's a power that's specific to a single character. So I fail to see how that "shouldn't be too much of a problem"?

Necrotifice (talk) 07:34, May 14, 2020 (UTC)

Strong Heart

I hope I clarified Strong Heart and Handicapability Capabilities enough to keep them. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 06:35, May 14, 2020 (UTC)

Well, lemme address both.

For Handicapability, your changes just totally fail to address the problem with it - if someone can do a thing at peak capability despite being disabled, they aren't disabled. Your change makes me wonder if you really understand what the problem was in the first place? If anything your change made it more apparent. For example, a paralyzed person with this "power" would be able to " preform any task be it combat, informative, athletic, etc, at peak physical and mental condition despite suffering some form of physical handicap". If a paralyzed person can do that, you know what they aren't? Paralyzed. Because that means they can freaking move. That means they aren't paralyzed, which means they aren't disabled, which means they don't have this power. Because this power is for disabled people, but disabled defintionally means lacking in some ability. If a person has all the ability, they aren't disabled which means they don't have Handicapability, they just have whatever other powers they have.

Strong Heart's problem is also deepend with the changes made. Look at that Known User's list: Barbie, Kevin Levin, Seto Kaiba, and Peach from Mario. The description of this power means that they have a very physically strong heart that resists disease AND makes it so they are also able to manifest their willpower within their heart to gain incredible strength AND resist any kind of dark influence or corruption. Yeah man, Barbie can do that. Seto Kaiba can do that, right? The Know Users list is basically just a list of protagonists/good guys. Even then that's not quite true, because Kaiba is an antagonist, like, a third of the time? Like, who would be a valid known user for this power as it's currently written?

I think the best thing that can happen to Strong Heart is that it gets rewritten to being the Archetype that it obviously is and then moved over to the namespace we hopefully get for it. I will say that you definitely improved the wording on Strong Heart's capabilities, but I think the core idea of it is too broad.

Necrotifice (talk) 07:15, May 14, 2020 (UTC)

I was able to clean up the Known User as you requested to see if it's enough to let its stay Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 08:00, May 14, 2020 (UTC)

Training Regimen

Necrotifice, Please reread the history of Beginning to End, it is about gaining Powers through training. Kung Fu Masters from Kung Fu Panda can control chi after training. Nengyko (talk) 08:17, May 17, 2020 (UTC)

And how can it not be a power, their are a lot of circumstances that grants abilities why not through training of all abilities. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 06:21, May 17, 2020 (UTC)

This isn't actually marked for literal deletion at this point, it's more marked for "This needs to get moved to the new namespace once we get it". Probably the Traits namespace, but maybe Archetypes. That's a whole other conversation. It's content isn't going away, it's just that Training Regimen isn't so much a power as a power source. Powers Sources are not powers, but they are power adjacent and still have a place on the wiki.

Necrotifice (talk) 09:25, May 17, 2020 (UTC)

Then what about Power Source and Prime Source, they count as powers two, as much as power sources. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 16:58, May 17, 2020 (UTC)

And in List of Supernatural Powers and Abilities their have been types of supernatural power sources that also count as powers.

  • Source: powers centered on its origin (usually supernatural) allowing a variety of applications.
    • Examples: Magic, Supernatural Dominion, Divinity, Lordship abilities

Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 17:01, May 17, 2020 (UTC)

Draco Magi Superior Physiology

How in the heck is it combined with exactly Homo Superior and Magi, with Dragons? That's silly, and this isn't plagiarism, it's more in line with Empowered-Magically Enhanced Physiology despite myself haven't even documented it yet myself. No plagiarism in the slightest, the user was just documenting a power from media like everybody else. ChocolateElemental (talk) 19:21, June 2, 2020 (UTC)

1. Plagiarism was never mentioned, really not sure why you're bringing it up.

2. It's literally Homo Magi + Homo Superior + Dragon Physiology. I don't know how you can ask "how in the heck" with that. It basically just replaced "Homo" with "Draco" and then slapped the words for the other two on there. The power is having the physiology of a dragon (Dragon Phys), who has superpowers (Homo Superior Phys.) and magic (Homo Magi Phys.). I can explain it for you, but I cannot understand it for you.

3. Whether or not that use is valid is quite debatable, since the only KU for it is from a mobile game and isn't so much shown to have these as they are an informed user. Necrotifice (talk) 19:28, June 2, 2020 (UTC)

Just saying, I am just perplexed. I am more than willing to oblige in documenting Empowered-Magically Enhanced Physiology, which is actually the mainstream physiology to Homo Magi Superior Physiology, with the latter being a variation to it. Much like HMS Physiology, the user is a hybrid of Homo Superior and Homo Magi as they both have normal superpowers as well as ones of arcane/magical/mysitcal origin. Though I will have to find some users for Empowered-Magically Enhanced Physiology regardless. ChocolateElemental (talk) 20:26, June 2, 2020 (UTC)

Or just even one user. it depends really. ChocolateElemental (talk) 20:27, June 2, 2020 (UTC)

Though to make it fair in this case, it would be classified as Superior Mage Physiology instead of Empowered-Magically Enhanced Physiology. ChocolateElemental (talk) 21:46, June 2, 2020 (UTC)

Removing a topic

There is literally no need to remove "Pataphysics Manipulation" as it is essentially a level higher than "Metaphysics Manipulation". While only one franchise truly went in-depth on what it is, same would then count for powers such as "Penance Stare" as literally only one group of characters are using it, but what it adds is variety and knowledge on it. I thought this was a Wikipedia page for it, because it offers knowledge into the power in question. 

Transcendent Demonic Mage Physiology

Again, using over specificness is not a bad thing, and I have explained so many times before and now, on why it isn't. It's only just because most people nowadays are wrongfully biased against it, and are just painfully intolerant with it. It pretty much irritates the heck out of me anytime I see this happening against over specificness. The bottom line is that wikis/encyclopedias are meant to document existing things, and to contain information about them. If you persistently still have issues with what I am rightfully defending, can't we all just at the very least do the absolute bare minimum of adding level variation tabs as we did with the Peak/Enhanced/Supernatural/Absolute Condition powers and its sub-abilities? ChocolateElemental (talk) 09:15, June 17, 2020 (UTC)

Destructive Dominion

Their is no need to delete Destructive Dominion and this absolutely nothing like Nothingness Manipulation at all Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 07:40, June 24, 2020 (UTC)

Pataphysics Manipulation

Do NOT delete it. To put it succinctly Pataphysics is “that which is not”, where Physics is “that which is” and Metaphysics is “that which is beyond”. Or, at least that’s always how I thought of them.

We have plenty of powers that manipulate a thing or things that exist, but not all that many to manipulate the degrees of Nonexistence. There’s “Nonexistence”, of course; but just because we have “Omni-Manipulation” doesn’t mean we should get rid of “Truth Manipulation”.

“Pataphysics Manipulation” may be arbitrary and hard to explain, but Pataphysics wasn’t made up here, it already ‘existed’, and so should have it’s own Manipulation to suit it.

By ‘existed’ I mean it’s a term that is real. Not made up for this wiki. It’s just defined as “the unknowable, the nonexistent”.

Yeah but until it has a 'clearer' definition what it is than it will be what it is now.EchoMaster123 (talk) 23:32, June 29, 2020 (UTC)

List of Lists

Do NOT Delete This.

If it should be in “Category: Main Categories” then “Category: Main Categories” should be searchable, which it is not. If you seach “Category: Main Categories” it doesn’t give you that Category page, and you’ve not found what you want, as a result.

If, however, you search “List of Lists”, then the first option is said List, and you’ve found what you want.

I don’t know how to find “Category: Main Categories”, but if I have to be told then it’s in a stupid place, and should be changed. I should be able to find it on my own, in five minutes or less, and a big part of that requires it to be SEARCHABLE, which it is not.

23:51 July 3rd, 2020 (EST)

Do NOOOOOOOOOT Delete This.

Pataphysics Manipulation

I removed the Taggation, because:

1.Not Being Poorly Made 

2.Being a Iconic Physics Power 

3.I added the Term Science of Imaginary Solutions which describes this Power at closest. 

4.Its a Omnipotent Level Power which is a Important part of Omnipotence 

5.If I'm wrong about Taggation deletion feel free to add the tag again, maybe we could discuss about the Future About the Pataphysic much closer.

6.its just my opinion if a Admin disagree then I would just leave this topic and respect the decision. 

Yours Truly Helper0605 

Science-Magic Lordship

There’s a “Life and Death Lordship”, and there’s a “Space-Time Lordship”, so why not a “Science-Magic Lordship”, too? Sure, it’s incredibly overpowered, but not as overpowered as “Absolute Change”.

Given, it has only existed for a day or so... and I’m the person that put it up, so maybe I’m biased... but still.

Do NOT Delete.

Or atleast let it live ‘till the new year. See if it catches an interest.

01:25, July 4th, 2020 (EST)

I finished putting the correct format on Soul Infection so you can take it off the candidates for deletion list.EpicSpadeboi (talk) 16:35, July 8, 2020 (UTC)

Intuitive Retrocognition

I created the page of Intuitive retrocognition for every superpower has an opposite version of it so I figured since there’s a lot of applications for precognition there might be room for more opposite of it including intuitive knowledge since no one can fully see the results of the future with intuitive precognition but could with its alternative so I beg this of you “PLEASE CAN IT STAY?” I’m also planning to become an novelist for my own comic books so I was planning to create a user for it when the time came or in the meanwhile other authors would find use just please don’t cancel yet

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