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ChocolateElemental

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    This type of behavior is childish. Frankly, I have very little patience for this type of immaturity and overt flaming, and I believe that users who resort to this type of method of 'getting their point' across has no place on this site. Your opinions on the site, while valid as long as they are communicated in a respectful and mature way, do not excuse this type of wording.

    This has been a pattern with you for quite a long time, and I'm starting to consider that this is becoming a serious problem. Because of that, I have decided to temporarily block you from the wiki so you can reflect on your behavior toward other editors. 

    You may appeal your block in this thread or by contacting me on Discord: Jess🌸#4019

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    • Necrotifice wrote:
      Oh, and to clarify about the God one, I'm of course referring to the Christian idea of God the Father, not the Son (Jesus) who is factually and for sure male.

      So how would that be refuted?

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    • By pointing to Gender Transcendence and saying that they fit better there because it's that they transcend they idea of gender, not that they are or are almost a specific gender. According to Gregory of Nazianas, Archbishop of Constainople in the late 400's, stated that the terms Father and Son are metaphorically used. God's gender isn't masucline, or feminine. This has also been re-affirmed in the 1992 Catechism of the Catholic Church. There's probably some sects of Christianity that believe God to be specifically male or female, but that's definitely not the broader view. And, of course, in those cases God would still not be 'nigh genderless', they would be male or female.

      So, under no existing denominations or sects of Christianity can I find an interpretation wherein God is explicity gender-neutral/lacking gender. The general logic seems to go that gender is for beings for whom there are counterparts. God is singular in power, alone in their divinity. As a result, gender is meaningless - God does not procreate, and has no peers, and therefore needs no gender.

      My source is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_of_God_in_Christianity

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  • Do not just throw accusations towards others about plagiarism when you do not even have evidence to back it up. Do not be confrontational about it, either. That is being rather toxic, which is something we don't want.

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    • Just so you know, in case you did not know, Queen Misery was not the one who made the page. another user by the name of Poison Horror did.

      Just wanted to make sure you knew.

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    • CrystalStorm51 wrote:
      Just so you know, in case you did not know, Queen Misery was not the one who made the page. another user by the name of Poison Horror did.

      Just wanted to make sure you knew.

      👍

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  • The examples you removed from Gender Transcendence truly belong on that page.

    The Lord of Nightmares is beyond gender, and the so-called feminine appearance? That's not its actual body (its body is the entire verse and the nothingness outside of it, or in the other words the Sea of Chaos)

    Enkidu's appearance is neither masculine or feminine, its like Rimuru in the fact its ambigious (or simply neuter)

    The Nines (Darling in the Franxx) appearance is not quite masculine or feminine, but more like a subtle mix between the two (the nine's are basically like Snails, in the fact they are of neither gender)

    Chevalier d'Eon's appearance is transitory (since it changes from moment to moment, and is not considered static in appearance. So applying gender terms is meaningless.)

    The One-Above-All is an example of Relative Appearance Alteration.

    Nobody has ever seen the true form of TOAA, and likely never will. Since its the Supreme Being and is so far removed from the definition and concept of gender that it might not even have a true appearance at all.

    The appearance of Jack Kirby? That's just what the Fantastic Four could perceive it as.

    The Homeless Man who Spider-Man encountered? That was merely a vessel he was using to appear before Peter.

    The comics have already confirmed that nobody knows what the TOAA actually looks like. So it honestly doesn't belong on Nigh-Genderlessness.

    So I removed them from Nigh-Genderlessness, as they didn't belong on the page.

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    • Here is proof that what we see of the TOAA is not what it actually looks like-

      "What you see is what I am to you. Don't worry. its a compliment, not an insult. That's what my creations do. They find the humanity in God."- TOAA

      and here is a conversation between Thanos and Adam Warlock about their encounter with the AAO/TOAA

      ""Above-All-Others is both male and female?" "So our senses perceive it moment to moment." "Annoying, is it not?" "No, truly wondrous"

      and this later statement from thanos shows that we only glimpse a fraction of what the TOAA is-

      "As you yourself perceived during your brief experience with Omni-Reality Perception, Titan"-TOAA

      "Which allowed me a fragmentary glimpse of your power, perceptions and motivations, grand one. But it was enough."- Thanos

      This basically shows that what we see of the TOAA in the story is not what it truly is or looks like. And during its meeting with The Living Tribunal/Adam Warlock during the Regulator theft, it continually changes its appearance and form to different visages.

      So nobody knows what the TOAA truly resembles. As its beyond our experience, and not in the purview of the writers to even bother showing us.

      So it can't be a user of Nigh-Genderlessness.

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    • SageM wrote:
      Here is proof that what we see of the TOAA is not what it actually looks like-

      "What you see is what I am to you. Don't worry. its a compliment, not an insult. That's what my creations do. They find the humanity in God."- TOAA

      and here is a conversation between Thanos and Adam Warlock about their encounter with the AAo/TOAA

      ""Above-All-Others is both male and female?" "So our senses perceive it moment to moment." "Annoying, is it not?" "No, truly wondrous"

      and this later statement from thanos shows that we only glimpse a fraction of what the TOAA is-

      "As you yourself perceived during your brief experience with Omni-Reality Perception, Titan"-TOAA

      "Which allowed me a fragmentary glimpse of your power, perceptions and motivations, grand one. But it was enough."- Thanos

      This basically shows that what we see of the TOAA in the story is not what it truly is or looks like. And during its meeting with The Living Tribunal/Adam Warlock during the Regulator theft, it continually changes its appearance and form to different visages.

      So nobody knows what the TOAA truly resembles. As its beyond our experience, and not in the purview of the writers to even bother showing us.

      So it can't be a user of Nigh-Genderlessness.

      I will have to agree with you here, but the only thing I have to address, is that this is all hard to pin down on which users count for Nigh Genderlessness.

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    • You could probably find some good examples on the Ambigious Gender tv tropes page.

      It should give you a general idea of who fits the capabilities of Nigh-Genderlessness

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    • SageM wrote:
      You could probably find some good examples on the Ambigious Gender tv tropes page.

      It should give you a general idea of who fits the capabilities of Nigh-Genderlessness

      Yeah, that should be alright, but the only advice is, try not to jump to conclusions on what a person would possibly be doing, as that'll possibly lead you into having the wrong ideas of what is going on. That's all I'm asking. Thanks.

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  • It seems youve been banned from the freak fortress 2 main wiki, concepts wiki, and gmod wikis, as well as your youtube account being terminated, and your deviantart page brings up a forbidden error, mind explaining how your doing nowadays in regards to wiki conduct? just curios mostly since your major fights, wars and bans with srskhan and the other few people, since they called you and your freaks/tf2 monsters shit.

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    • To be honest, im probably never ever going to try my hand at a freak concept if this is the only thing thats going to happen considering how they basically outcast you from both wikis never to be seen or heard from again in your former username of THG. So they could just randomly decide my oc is nothing more then an overpowered Mary sue/Marty Stu just for being close to Painis Cupcake's level of strength, and be rude by warning me and then deleting it because they happen to find it shitty and op, while forcing me to do it all over again from scratch. I assume this is what you mean by pushing people around and being assholes correct?

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    • Ravenant2 wrote:
      To be honest, im probably never ever going to try my hand at a freak concept if this is the only thing thats going to happen considering how they basically outcast you from both wikis never to be seen or heard from again in your former username of THG. So they could just randomly decide my oc is nothing more then an overpowered Mary sue/Marty Stu just for being close to Painis Cupcake's level of strength, and be rude by warning me and then deleting it because they happen to find it shitty and op, while forcing me to do it all over again from scratch. I assume this is what you mean by pushing people around and being assholes correct?

      Yes, but mary sues and overpowered characters are not the same thing, to be honest.

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  • Can you please paste following text to link w:c:villains:Puggsy (Tom and Jerry)?

    Puggsy is a (former) antagonist turned tritagonist of Tom and Jerry: The Movie. He’s a dog who lost his owner and Frankie DaFlea’s best friend.

    History/Personality

    He first appeared while Tom and Jerry were fighting. He and Frankie mentioned that they are fighting and insulted them. Later, they started to humiliate them because they were fighting instead of being friends. Frankie was a little softer, and tried to explain Puggsy that Tom and Jerry are a cat and a mouse, who are natural enemies. But Puggsy didn’t want to hear about that, and started to manipulate Tom and Jerry to become friends, even though he saw that they don’t want to be friends. He also showed that he hates difference between him and others, and wants to manipulate others to think like him, and he will try to convince them to change their personality, even to the point forcing them (even though he sees that they don’t want to become like him). He also doesn’t care if anyone will die rather than listening to him, and he’s willing to let anybody die. He and Frankie sang the song Friends To The End, which was a manipulating song which was supposed to force Tom and Jerry to become friends. Later, they were captured by Straycatchers, who brang them to Dr. Applecheek. When Pristine Figg brang Tom and Jerry to Dr. Applecheek, when he put them into the cage and brang them to Straycatchers to lock them in bigger cage, Tom and Jerry saw Puggsy and Frankie again. Later, they all teamed up to escape and freed all other animals. Puggsy and Frankie are so lazy and mean, and that’s why they didn’t want to help Tom and Jerry in their mission to save Robyn Starling and help her to find her father. They also didn’t care if someone bad could happen to them during their mission. They are guys who don’t care about anybody except themselves. Puggsy and Frankie appeared again at the end of movie, when they were seen reading the newspaper where were news about that Tom and Jerry saved the town. They were happy because they succeeded in manipulation Tom and Jerry becoming friends. It’s unknown what happened to them later.

    Trivia

    The only reason why Puggsy and Frankie count as heroes is because they teamed up with Tom and Jerry to escape from Dr. Applecheek and Straycatchers, even though Jerry did all the work, and they are just two lazy guys.

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    • Сонтоц Чонтос wrote:
      Can you please paste following text to link w:c:villains:Puggsy (Tom and Jerry)?

      Puggsy is a (former) antagonist turned tritagonist of Tom and Jerry: The Movie. He’s a dog who lost his owner and Frankie DaFlea’s best friend.

      History/Personality

      He first appeared while Tom and Jerry were fighting. He and Frankie mentioned that they are fighting and insulted them. Later, they started to humiliate them because they were fighting instead of being friends. Frankie was a little softer, and tried to explain Puggsy that Tom and Jerry are a cat and a mouse, who are natural enemies. But Puggsy didn’t want to hear about that, and started to manipulate Tom and Jerry to become friends, even though he saw that they don’t want to be friends. He also showed that he hates difference between him and others, and wants to manipulate others to think like him, and he will try to convince them to change their personality, even to the point forcing them (even though he sees that they don’t want to become like him). He also doesn’t care if anyone will die rather than listening to him, and he’s willing to let anybody die. He and Frankie sang the song Friends To The End, which was a manipulating song which was supposed to force Tom and Jerry to become friends. Later, they were captured by Straycatchers, who brang them to Dr. Applecheek. When Pristine Figg brang Tom and Jerry to Dr. Applecheek, when he put them into the cage and brang them to Straycatchers to lock them in bigger cage, Tom and Jerry saw Puggsy and Frankie again. Later, they all teamed up to escape and freed all other animals. Puggsy and Frankie are so lazy and mean, and that’s why they didn’t want to help Tom and Jerry in their mission to save Robyn Starling and help her to find her father. They also didn’t care if someone bad could happen to them during their mission. They are guys who don’t care about anybody except themselves. Puggsy and Frankie appeared again at the end of movie, when they were seen reading the newspaper where were news about that Tom and Jerry saved the town. They were happy because they succeeded in manipulation Tom and Jerry becoming friends. It’s unknown what happened to them later.

      Trivia

      The only reason why Puggsy and Frankie count as heroes is because they teamed up with Tom and Jerry to escape from Dr. Applecheek and Straycatchers, even though Jerry did all the work, and they are just two lazy guys.

      You might want to ask permission beforehand though, and besides, if you want a job done right, you are going to have to do it yourself.

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  • I wasn't referring to you. 

    I was referring to the user who keeps trying to circumvent their block and was bothering other users about being blocked.

    I was talking about Baileydavis's messages which they were continually posting on my message wall and other peoples messages walls.

    They were being a troll and vandal.

    If you noticed I only removed their messages, not yours.

    This user- "BaileyDavis699th" Is the one who was being the troll. Not you.

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    • SageM wrote:
      I wasn't referring to you. 

      I was referring to the user who keeps trying to circumvent their block and was bothering other users about being blocked.

      I was talking about Baileydavis's messages which they were continually posting on my message wall and other peoples messages walls.

      They were being a troll and vandal.

      If you noticed I only removed their messages, not yours.

      This user- "BaileyDavis699th" Is the one who was being the troll. Not you.

      Oh right, I'm very sorry about that, I thought you were replying to me in regards to Mega Bigman.

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  • According to the history of that page, it was created back in December 2019 by Transformers1992.

    Mega Bigman had nothing to do with the page, nor did he create it.

    Please review the page history before you make accusations regarding other users next time.

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    • SageM wrote:
      According to the history of that page, it was created back in December 2019 by Transformers1992.

      Mega Bigman had nothing to do with the page, nor did he create it.

      Please review the page history before you make accusations regarding other users next time.

      I may be to blame for that personally, sure, but its the fact that it had similar following to how Mega creates them, so what does that tell you?

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    • SageM wrote:
      According to the history of that page, it was created back in December 2019 by Transformers1992.

      Mega Bigman had nothing to do with the page, nor did he create it.

      Please review the page history before you make accusations regarding other users next time.

      And besides, what if Transformers1992 was the same exact person? I know for a fact that some people will create sock puppet accounts to circumvent the bans.

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  • Homo Magi and Homo Superior will suffice. Please let's change them back.

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    • Baalzebug wrote:
      We need to figure out now, before we redo everything.

      All we have to do first, is to ask one of the admins, or even the current supreme admin.

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    • As long as it's in also called, it should turn up in search results.

      Also, "superior human" isn't quite accurate.

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  • Hi. those limitations for Ultimate Erasure aren't really valid and have nothing to do with the power.

    Its purely an Erasure power, you can't recreate something with an erasure power.

    And primordial powers have nothing to do with it, and they cannot nullify it. After all, Origin Destruction can easily defeat any primordial power.

    So you basically just added nonsense to the page that logically has nothing to do with Ultimate Erasure nor can it be considered a weakness.

    Also Absolute Restoration cannot restore anything erased by Ultimate Erasure, only Absolute Recreation exists as a maybe limitation.

    Ultimate Erasure is the most practical form of Nonexistence for a reason after all.

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    • Arquetion wrote:
      In addition, it is impossible for those powers to recover anything that has been destroyed or erased by nonexistence or ultimate erasure.

      So what does that tell you?

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    • SageM wrote:
      You do need to realize that Grand Zeno can erase even Super Shenron (and he even planned on doing so had the victor of the tournament of power made a selfish wish). And that Super Shenron was not able to bring back all of the erased universes (the universes that Zeno erased in the past were not returned, despite !7 asking for all the universes erased to be restored)

      So its only a maybe limitation, rather then a true one.

      Remember that Nonexistence can be expressed in how "thorough" it is. And that Zeno's level of erasure in regards to the other universes could not be restored by Super Shenron. So the argument that Super Shenron could recreate everything doesn't apply in regards to Nonexistence.

      However, I honestly have some two bombshell questions for you to end this debate.

      1. As Nonexistence is a 'specialized variation to Omnipotence, the main problem is, what if it were a subpower to Omnipotence? Would the user be able to reverse the deleted targets of the three erasure powers?

      2. Secondly, what if Omnipotence were to go against Erasure, Ultimate Erasure, or even Nonexistence? Would Omnipotence be able to reverse the three Erasure ability's effects, thus restoring absolutely anything as we all know them? Omnipotence is the power to be all-powerful, perfect, and to accomplish absolutely anything, whether impossible, inconceivable, and as well as what is possible. I'm sure confident that Nonexistence, Erasure, and Ultimate Erasure won't be able to fight back against it. Good luck defending your own stances on these. So what does that say?

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  • Sorry about my dumb edit, Chocolate

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    • PlatinumFist(7 wrote:
      Sorry about my dumb edit, Chocolate

      Its okay, just try not to do it again, because for the record, users can't have all levels of durability.

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