I saw the suggestion sent to Necro about a physiology power that looks intriguing. I'd like to be a helping hand to it, nice to familiarize myself with dimensional topics and the like.
Also, the first hassle we come across are the users make this possible power verse-specific by default: Perpetua and his children. Gotta close in at minimum one or two users from a different medium or verse to be sure this to hold ground.
OK, this is a little much to take in so bear with me.
So 0-D is viewed as just being a point. incapable Of anything such as interacting with anything or anyone, incapable of movement, Oblivious to everything else, limited to this single point of their existence, etc.
1-D physiology would it be like a line. As for what they’re exactly capable of I don’t know but definitely a bit more than 0-D beings are capable of. Like actually being able to move (probably) for example.
2-D would be sort of like flat, like living the life of a drawing on a piece of paper. They may be capable of a lot of things but their existence is only confined to their flat or paper thin like setting.
3-D is basically us. we live life one way. We are born and then we die, that’s it.
4-D as it says on the page, is often associated with time, the user can potentially manifest temporal abilities. Instead of just living life one way like 3-D beings, they can go back and forward in time. For example if you would like to go back to the time where you were a child or in the future where you are old you would be able to do so. However the only limitation would be that you’ll be unable to change anything. All you can do is travel.
5-D users cannot only travel forward and backwards through time but can change it. You can effectively explore your branching timelines of your life.
Finally, 6-D user cannot only do everything a fifth dimensional user could do. But could also explore the endless possibilities of what they could be in life. Another words, if there’s a possibility of you being a rockstar, President of the United States, or A dog you can live. 6-D physiology Allows you to explore endless possibilities.
Another user for your idea would be GOD from Toriko.
Which literally has archived every existing form of life (as well as all the planets, stars, galaxies, and even universes that they came from and lived on) within itself, possibly dating all the way back to the Big Bang.
And if that wasn't enough evidence, it actually shows all the life that exists within it.
Also to further add to its placement there, the Toriko series also features a multiverse and the different forms of life that have traveled between each of the universes is also contained within GOD as well.
I believe that The All was originally on the users list for Omnipotence in the past, but it was removed when the listed was trimmed down to a much more respectable size to further clarify and define those that are Truly omnipotent, and those that are merely Monotheistic Deities.
The separating factors between a Monotheistic Deity and actually being Above and Beyond all is hard to factor in.
Well some of the examples you presented might be close in definition, the others its honestly hard to say for certain that they actually belong on the page or if they should just be added to Monotheistic or Creator Deity Physiology.
Just because something is a Monotheistic Deity, doesn't automatically make it truly omnipotent (in some cases they are only Metapotent and/or occasionally Ultipotent beings.)
Your argument regarding Metapotence being achievable omnipotence doesn't really work....because all known and current users are already the highest/supreme powers of their verse, or they are the Author Authority avatars.
Which proves the point that Omnipotence is not an achievable power.
Lets examine the facts-
1. Azathoth- Is the supreme being of the Cthulhu Mythos and a Reality Dreamer
2. Law of Identity- The Creator, Supreme Being, and Author of the Daimaou verse
3. Sai Akuto- Essentially the male version of Featherine
4. Undoubtely First- the creator of the Cryptozoi verse and author avatar.
5. Creasion- User of Author Authority
6. The Dreamers- Reality Dreamers and on the same scale of power as Azathoth and the Godhead
7. Kami Tenchi- The supreme being of the entire Kajishima verse, and who is as far above the Choushin, as the Choushin are above the gods and as we are above the amoeba.
8. Featherine- Nothing further needs to be said regarding her.
9. SCP-3812- Clear example of Author Authority/Author Avatar, potentially regarded in the same fashion as Featherine.
10. Mana-Yood-Sushai- Original basis for and expy of Azathoth.
As you can clearly see, all the known users are Supreme Beings, Author Authority users, or Reality Dreamers. Which goes to show that achieving True Omnipotence is not possible for anyone who doesn't fit that mold. As they are really the only ones who are capable of ignoring logic and reason on the scale the power demands.
You’re talking about the actual real life writers right?
I was kind of referring to all of this on a fictional level. Of course 001 is above 3812 based on them being actually real writers.
On a fictional level however 3812 already transcended 001. Even Djkaktus referred to it as a being that views our reality as fictional and the lower one, and the lower one, Ad Infinitum in a Reddit post.
He was still forced up to that level by an example of the SCP-001 though.
Which means that had the author not interfered with his life, he would never have achieved anything close to Metapotence and would have lived out his life normally.
So its still an example of Author Authority controlling the lives of its creations.
Authors can do whatever they want.
Also we don't honestly know if this is the last time 3812 will encounter Djkaktus (since Ben went silent after his discussion/argument with Sam), so who knows what will happen in the future of the meta-narrative.
I did have a look at the information of the Omni transcendence page and I think broaden out the definition or capabilities could make it work. I don’t really see much on the page that takes my way describing it Word for Word. For example SCP 3812 should not be a user of the power because he was once human. Omni transcendence should have users who have always been that way, (that’s why we don’t have to worry about the self annihilating part, since technically they are that “nonexistence” or “self erasure”) meaning the power should not be identified as a Sub-power of Cosmic Otherness and the Final level of Self Transcendence.
Basically the users of Omni transcendence should be similar to The Overvoid or The Creator since they are the greatest example of it.
Omni transcendence should be a form, variant, or expression of omnipotence, meaning it is utterly invincible compared to every other power except for other variations of omnipotence. if this was included in the description instead of “Sub-power of Cosmic Otherness and the Final level of Self Transcendence” I don’t think it would’ve been deleted.
Users are only omnipotent beings or something very close to that.
The nameless mist is a great example as a user of the power(though Not All-powerful Still exists more as a abstract forces or concept than a Individual being.
I’m thinking maybe I’ll make a blog post of the power.
Neither the Overvoid nor the Creator are examples of Omni-Transcendence.
And the Creator isn't even an actual entity/being or user. Its just the state of existence of having no restrictions.
The overvoid is the Transcendent Consciousness and Totality that everything was created from.
It has nothing to do with Omni Transcendence whatsoever.
The users I mentioned are the only ones that fit the parameters of omni-transcendence.
The ones you mentioned have nothing to do with it.
The users i mentioned are the only ones who can be defined to fit the parameters that make up Omni Transcendence.
Empty Hand transcends the whole of the DC franchise (and all franchises/verses/series) by definition. As it is the Reader of the story. It can easily end everything if it wanted, and then start everything back up again.
Empty Hand is not part of DC, or even the endless expanse of the Overvoid. it exists outside both.
The Law of Identity counts as a user because it transcends not only all stories, all worlds, all realms, all principles, characters, powers, existence and nonexistence alike....
...but at the end of the series it leave behind even that. To the point it no longer even exists or is even part of the novel it was written in.
From an outside perspective, Great Attractor (Diebuster/Gunbuster) was something that apparently only transcended all dimensions and could not be reached, but after an attempt by the mortal beings were made to try and reach it and contact it in effort to stop its influence...
....they found that it transcended even that. What it is now can't even be defined or understood, its has transcended everything that could ever possibly even hope to fathom or understand it. As things stand now, there is no way to even describe what it is or where it went. it can't even fit into the terms of being Omnilock or conceptual transcendence, its left all that behind.
Even the author who wrote the story doesn't know what it is now. Out of all the users mentioned, it fits the closest to the original idea of the page outside of the Nameless Mist.
In fact, the only reason the Creator is even on this wikia is because we had to find something to apply its descriptor too what was on here, since its the only thing higher up the hierarchy than Featherine.
Also you should realize that Azathoth exists within the framework/canvas that Yog-Sothoth represents.
But the Nameless Mist doesn't. that places it on equal standing with Azathoth. So even if Azathoth created it, without the Nameless Mist's creatign Yog-Sothoth it wouldn't even exist anywhere, even a void.
When they say everything is in and on Yog-Sothoth, their not speaking metaphorically.
The Nameless Mist is the only thing that doesn't exist within Yog-Sothoth in the Cthuhlu Mythos.
That makes its place in existence undefinable. Because of that. its impossible to call it only nigh omnipotent. While we have no idea what happens when Azathoth actually wakes up, because of its unique standing in the design of the existence, we cannot call it less than Azathoth.
The limitation doesn't apply to Numerical Transcendence, because numerical values are considered essentially meaningless.
Infinity and Zero mean the exact same thing to the user, so trying to apply a limitation regarding whether or not they can understand their power doesn't really make a sense. Since its a literal none issue for them.
The power doesn't have limitations, so please stop trying to think of ones for it. Especially ones that cannot and do not apply based on the overall capabilities.