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Zatalliya

aka Jess

Bureaucrat Admin
  • I live in Currently Studying in Southern California, USA
  • I was born on December 5
  • My occupation is A lot of them
  • I am Female
  • Bio Can't come up with one | 18F
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Happy Tuesday, Zatalliya!

Welcome to my message wall! Drop questions and concerns below. I remove ordinary messages from the talk page as soon as I've replied, so don't worry about not seeing our conversation here. I'd much rather talk to you on Discord, though.  Jess#1144

TAKE NOTE

  • I'm a full-time university student and a full-time employee. This is a delicate balance that means I'll usually be on my phone.
  • It's she.
  • I prefer to voice chat on Tuesdays. If you need to call me on Discord, that's when. Coronavirus f*cked up my times. Just msg me.
  • Discord is my preferred communication method.
  • English. Though I've been in the States for years, I'm Taiwanese. My English isn't perfect.
  • If my coding is f*cked, let me know before you try and fix it yourself. Chances are, I'm working on it already.
    • I cannot properly answer your coding questions. I learned from the internet.
    • I wrote it like that because it looks good.
  • It's okay to not be an expert. If you need clarification on something (no matter how inane you may think it is), I will never be upset with you.
    • I believe there is no such thing as a stupid question.
  • Telepathy is intrusive and Mind Control is a violation of bodily autonomy.

CORONA UPDATE 3

  • I will have more free time as I have left my university campus. Discord's still the best place to reach me, though.
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  • The Arguement that Absolutes are equivalent to Meta Powers is entirely wrong , Meta means beyond which would put it "beyond or ~ (that's estimation sign) greater than something else that is equivalent to it" I'm only using physics here for a logical argument. So saying Meta physics is ~ greater than physics is correct. But if someone where to control Physics at an Absolute level it would be a whole value or the entirety of something i.e. an Absolute Constant. There's is nothing that is roughly as equivalent to something else that can overcome the greater Object (Subject at hand). So Meta Physics being .9999999.... of the whole physics could never be equal to an Absolute Physics Manipulation or 1 being the entirety. In summary .999999 is never greater or equal to 1. 1 or Absolute will always be greater by infinite infinities, the same arguement can be made for why Nigh omnipotence can never overcome Omnipotence.

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    • You're right in thinking that .¯99 can never amount to 1 and that, in a more grounded example such as physical strength, you can't just "obtain" Absolute Strength by increasing your ability over and over and over. And you're right that Nigh-Omnipotence will never overcome Omnipotence. This is uncontested and will never change.

      Similarly, Meta and Absolute are on different wavelengths and aren't quite as comparable as we would like them to be. Since things get extremely muddy at higher levels, there's no way to directly compare Metaphysics to something like Absolute Physics Manipulation (which I don't believe exists in the mainspace).

      Pataphysics and Metaphysics are theoretical fields of study, both of which are largely unproven and do not have solid definitions. We're looking to improve those pages, but a similar rule applies to Metaphysics and Pataphysics — they're hard to compare.

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    • I can understand where you are coming from. Would you mind me asking what would become of the Pataphysics power if the Meta & Absolute Abilites were merged?

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    • They aren't being merged, so I wouldn't know for sure.

      Pataphysics would need to be rewritten regardless of future merges though.

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  • Did you get my message on Discord about a power called High-Speed Flexibility?

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    • Yup.

      I didn't say anything though, because you did discuss the power in the chat and got quite a bit of input from others. I don't think I'd be able to add anything meaningful to that discussion.

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    • Okay then. Thanks.

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  • Greetings. Hope you are well. I was wondering my the New Pages list has been undone to the point where you can't see the complete list of new powers created. Right now, there are only a handful listed. Is this some new site policy? It just seems kind of difficult if one is trying to see some of the most recent changes other than the list of Recent Activity.

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    • Hello,

      This is neither a site policy or an intended feature. My best guess is that this is a FANDOM bug that hasn't been addressed yet. For now, it might be a good idea to use Recentchanges until that is fixed.

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    • Very well. Thanks you for the info and reply.

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  • the ability to use occultism, which is the study of supernatural concepts. Users are John Constantine, Detective Chimp and Jason Blood.

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    • I'm quite surprised we don't actually have an occultism page yet, considering we already have an alchemy page. Could you link it to me when you're done creating it? There are things that I would like to add to it once it's up.

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    • Done it. Look.

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  • After someone messaged me on another wiki, realised I should probably let you know I haven't died yet! I'm still about, just not on Discord (for now)...

    Also, since I can obviously read, I'm very curious as to know what the fuck happened for Nekron to have left from the wiki... 👀
    Shame I can't offer any recommendations myself (because all the people I'd put forward are either inactive wiki-wise or they simply don't want the position 😠😒).

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    • BEHEMOTHY! You're alive!!! I hope everything's alright on your end and if it isn't, you can talk to me about itttt \ (≧▽≦*)o

      You missed a lot!! Get on Discord when you can!! I have so much to catch you up on!

      Also, yeah, the reason Nekron left is not only because of drama, but because of a fundamental problem with the people on the wiki... so when you get on I'll explain the best I can.

      ALSO I HAVE A BOT NOW! Fibonacci bear rlly be do roboting. 

      I'll explain the private shit on Disc, just focus on what you need to do rn and take your time. GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU THOUGH@@

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    • Huh... sounds more serious than I thought... I always miss when shit always pops off...

      I see... so it was the Fibonacci bear that brings the advent of Skynet... it all makes sense now...

      I'll message you on the cord soon though! Cheers%21.gif

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    • Behemotheeee ;w; i luv u com back asap

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  • Since Nekron has officially left the wikia, we are short one of the major admins.

    Who should we promote to a new admin? The only users I can currently think of that would be good enough to be the next admin would be Kusarigama or RnR.

    What do you think?

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    • Kusarigama is definitely a Content Moderator candidate, and we'll also be looking over the following weeks for people who have the necessary skillset to fill Administration. It is not imperative that we immediately regrow a lost tooth and we would like a little more time before deciding on who will fill Nekron's spot. 

      Add. 1 — Nekron is a difficult guy to replace. He offered insight (mostly on Discord from what I've seen) that nobody else could come up with. It's not like we'll ever really end up replacing him since he offered something unique. 

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    • What about RnR? 

      He has nearly as many edits as Kusarigama, and overall has put a lot into the wikia.

      Not to mention he has been around since almost the founding of the wikia.

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    • why did he left???? he's just been an admin less than a year.

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    • If number of edits mattered when it came to the selection of administrators, I wouldn't be here. I'm not looking only from the pool of old members, but also those who are getting into editing or might specialize in a certain aspect of Wikis.

      I have looked through RnR's contributions. I might reach out to him and Kusarigama about staff at a later date, after discussing with the existing staff. It might be for either Content Moderator or for Admin, depending on what others might say.

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  • Hi. The problem with the removal is that most of the users do in fact all under the definition of those powers.

    The users removed from Garbage Generation have the power-

    Anime entry for Gunk Shot from Bulbapedia-

    "Garbodor puts its hands together, and a silver light starts sparkling between them. The light then turns into a black bag of garbage outlined in purple, which Garbodor hurls at the opponent."

    That's garbage generation right there, and its taken from the anime.

    Rukia is the holder of the most beautiful Zanpakuto, and in her bankai. She actually becomes Sode no Shirayuki. Making her beauty enhanced.

    Dio's beauty is described as Supernatural by the actual creator of the series itself.

    Bulma is the most beautiful woman in the world according to Toriyama in multiple interviews and by the voice actress herself before her death.

    Jean Grey is considered to be beauty of a cosmic level (even before becoming the Phoenix Force).

    Shiva (final fantasy) it depends on which game your talking about. But Shiva's unearthly beauty is either enhanced or supernatural (and sometimes both at once, despite the apparent contradiction)

    Terra's (FF6) beauty is due to her mixed blood. And is actually commented on in Dissidia by both male and female characters from other games in the series.

    Hinata is second most beautiful woman in the world in Naruto (after Tsunade Senjuu), and is described as being truly flawless in appearance by multiple characters. putting right near the edge of Supernatural.

    These are just a few examples, but the users removed do in fact belong on those pages. Its not my opinion, its honest word of god by either the creators/writers of the series, or other reliable sources (artbooks, character profiles, etc.)

    I'm not trying to debate this, I'm simply saying they belong on there because the evidence actually supports it.

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    • Examples that come from outside of her own game means she fits the definition of the power far more then Celes.

      Your points about Celes fitting better doesn't really amount to much when other characters from other games comment on it.

      Leveraging her beauty means absolutely nothing. Because there are other points to considered when applied to users. And the words of other characters are a bigger factor in this case then a simple one off mention by a single character.

      Do any of the other characters in FF6 ever comment on Celes' beauty? Nope. Not a one. Its only the words of Setzer

      NPCs don't really count either. Unless another major character in the story that actually has an influence on events says as much, then you really don't have any other points to show that she is a user.

      when more than 30 different characters comment on a character, from other games I might add, say your the most beautiful woman they have seen? Than you have some actual credibility.

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    • you are literally substituting the actual criteria on the Enhanced Beauty page, for your own Criteria, nowhere on the enhanced beauty page does the page mention the necessity of having 30 different characters from other worlds commenting on your beauty to be part of the page.

      What's more you completely disregard my evidence instead of refuting said evidence (I just gave you 5 count them 5 different instances of Celes' beauty coming up in universe. and have given examples that match the Criteria of the Enhanced Beauty Page) What's more I listed the criteria in my previous post.

      my final bullet point is this. If NPC's don't count for purposes of qualifying for the Enhanced Beauty Page, your entire argument is rendered invalid since the people mentioning Terra's beauty in Dissida are NPC's.

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  • Lucid Dreaming can help you overpower Dream Manipulation as this is your dream and only you can control it. Ninjutsu and Yoga are real life things that can be useful in fiction like Lucid Dreaming. Watching Tangled episode Rapunzeltopia, Skylanders Academy episode Dream Girls and Skunk Fu episode The Art Of Dream Control showed that each protagonist became aware of their dreams and controlled them to overpower their enemies.

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  • The reason I removed the limitations, is because they didn't really have anything to do with the power.

    I left the only one that relates to the power, the others were just nonsense.

    its not considered destroying page contents, if the limitations themselves have nothing to do with the power.

    Its a breath power, but most of the limitations really belonged under manipulation, inducement or aura powers.

    So they didn't really belong on the page.

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    • I think those limitations were applicable if we were to judge the Fear Breath power in a vacuum rather than in relation to fear manipulation/inducement/aura, but I guess I'll just throw it in PNW and save the headache for tomorrow.

      In any case, edits to short pages should be more welcome. After all, there isn't anything to edit until people start adding serious content.

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