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  • Is there ways that controlling space can counter controlling time?

    https://www.quora.com/Can-space-and-time-be-separated

    "No. Space and Time are concepts.

    Space is the concept of dimension in three directions at right angles to each other. Without any 'object' to measure it, space is dimensionless... that is, it ceases to be 'space' as defined.

    Time too is a concept that has meaning only in relation to an object. Without any change in an object there can be no time."

    By this explanation we can say that A human that can manipulate time can basically make it so that they can rewind space to previous states, halt space's change or accelerate space in relativity to their own conciousness or being. Some time manipulation users allready can be considered to trancend time because they can prevent themselves from being affected by the change in the space they take part in to any given degree such that they themselves are the same from any natural change to the natural course of time.

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    • Can't a Space Manipulator change the structure of space to alter time flow, up to full freezing ? Aren't the specific characteristics of a given space what determines how fast things happen in there ? Isn't that what the time dilation effect of black holes essentially demonstrate ?

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    • DYBAD wrote: Can't a Space Manipulator change the structure of space to alter time flow, up to full freezing ? Aren't the specific characteristics of a given space what determines how fast things happen in there ? Isn't that what the time dilation effect of black holes essentially demonstrate ?

      I'm gonna use the same old arguments people use when saying that time>space:

      The time manipulator controls all of time. That means he can speed up his thinking process to an attosecond and always strike first. He will always slow down the space manipulator first if he has full control of his powers. He could just freeze time, learn about the guy, then go back to when he was a baby and kill him or something. The only way space oddity wins is if he gets the drop on the time guy.

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    • Doesn't going back into time and changing it just create a new timeline (diverting a fraction of the time stream into a different direction from this point on), while the original time and place remain the same ? And if the Space Manipulator really controls his powers, he could prevent time alterations by locking the characteristics of space, and even prevent any movement in any direction, at which point the Time Manipulator would be inexorably check mated like a fly caught in the spider's web.

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    • Is there an application or technique for "locking the characteristics of space"? And also, would a Dimensional Manipulator be able to replicate if not counter "Alternate Timeline Creation"?

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    • I don't think it's explicitly mentioned, it just came to mind when thinking about how time flow probably works in our real-life universe, where "space" is an empirical reality while "time" is just a concept created by man to get a better grasp on the world and make reliable projections (animals generally lack a sense of time and live exclusively in the present, their memories being no more than tips providers to face immediate situations).

      I guess it would depend on the nature of space-time in the given story, though I find [ Time Travel => Alternate Timeline ] the most concinving explanation overall. I always found the monolithic reality-rewriting version of time travel far too simple and convenient, when everything else in the cosmos is so very complex. It just didn't add up to me ^ ^;

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    • Thanks bro. I'm guessing you're a mod, so help me out. I noticed on the "Spatial Attacks" page that it said: "Also, since most attacks appear at the target location instantaneously, dodging is intensely difficult."

      Literally the only attack that bypasses time altogether is Spatial Piercing. Everything else takes time to perform and use, it does NOT move or appeaThe only attack that bypasses time altogether is Spatial Piercing. Everything else takes time to perform and use, it does NOT move or appea

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    • You're welcome ^ ^ You message is unfinished, isn't it ? There's a repeat, and the end seems missing.

      Spatial piercing, cuting, shredding, etc., any offensive effect that happens instantly in the targeted area, though I imagine the user could also "isolate" the portion of space occupied by the target first, then attack them with non-instant attacks (kinda like cornering ennemies into a tight dead-end before shooting them, similarly to the "elephant in a corridor" saying), nullifying the escape/missing chance.

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    • Both.

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    • I meant to say "appear instantly". Spatial slicing for example goes through air, and it can be dodged. It is not instant, it takes time. Essentially it's a way weaker version of temporal slicing, since Temporal Slicing cuts through all periods of time, spatial slicing just separates that specific space into two.

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    • From what I understand, nothing stops Spatial Slicing from instantly cutting the intended area all at once, although it can also be performed gradually like an enhanced version of Razor Wind. When used in the first way, it is essentially indissociable from Temporal Slicing from a "present" perspective.

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    • Oh now I understand, thank you so much for your patience! And can you please edit the gif in "Spatial Bullet Projection". That is NOT a bullet, it's an extendable sword. The gif in "Impale" shows the exact same power being displayed, which means something is wrong.

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    • You're welcome ^ ^ I believe you can change the captioned picture/gif directly, at it is part of the standard editing accessible to all registered users. Will have to find a good replacement first though, to avoid leaving a blank for an indefinite amount of time.

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    • 2 the people with the stupid argument of saying the time guy can speed up their thought process to that of an atto second pls realize you have to think for that 2 happen, and you can't think faster than space

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