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  • From my  understanding of the powers, Meta Transcendence is the power to transcend anything of the users choice with the only down side being if you choose to transcend all limitations then you erase yourself.

    and with Eternal Transcendence, the user is transcending infinitely while keeping their individuality, with the down side being that you can't transcend all limitation.

    i say Eternal Transcendence wins, what do you think?

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    • I think so Eternal Transcendence acquires Meta Transcendence without erasing yourself and then surpassing even Meta Transcendence

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    • Yea i think so too.

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    • so the answer suggests itself that Eternal Transcendence is at least stronger than Meta Transcendence

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    • I will try to explain both powers according to my knowledge, you know, Evey power here based on one user, you watch anime (TV series, movies or read manga/book/light novel or play game ...etc) and see cool superpower and then you create new entry for it in this wiki based on the power of that user, Meta Transcendence based on "Featherine Augustus Aurora".

      For those that aren't familiar with Featherine she is from series called Umineko (when they cry) and she is a very powerful being.

      I'll try to give a Simplified layman's terms of the cosmology and the infinite hierarchy abyss:

      The Infinite Hierarchical Abyss:

      Realm_of_withes.png

      just imagine power level from 1 -to- Infinite, where 1 is powerless and Infinite the level of god, in her world she transcended the realm of witches and reached the realm of the Creator, but she only touched the last boundary. Anyone who actually becomes part of the Creator is completely erased, due to loss of all restrictions, including life, death, and meaning. and that where the limitation (Limits being self-defining, users are likely to hold back a lot to preserve their sense of self and meaning.) came from.

      Creator domain:

      Featherine is powerful and due to essentially touching the barest portion of the Creator's realm/true self, but not fully entering so as not to be consumed by it. Featherine is still limited by a sense of self, which one loses when they become part of the "Creator". Since you are no longer you, but merely another part of something that is 0. This sense of meaning stops her from being completely omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient.

      All who join the creator and Transcendence eveything are erased and become true limitless|Boundless https://i.imgur.com/teWi6Xi.jpg


      Eternal Transcendence you will walk that infinite hierarchy step by step for Eternity to reach the Creator domain.


      so it's up to you, do you like the journey to the last step and like to spend your time (Eternal Transcendence) or do you want to jump immediately to the last step without spend Eternity (Meta_Transcendence)

      Both lead to the same destinastion and both at the last step you will need lose your individuality to be limitless

      with the down side being that you can't transcend all limitation.
      

      That not entirely true, as you reach the last level/step you will transcend all limitation.

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    • I still think that Eternal Transcendence is better

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    • Eckareot wrote: I still think that Eternal Transcendence is better

      Eternal Transcendence is just a variation of Meta Transcendence. both are equall.

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    • DeuzExMachina wrote:
      I will try to explain both powers according to my knowledge, you know, Evey power here based on one user, you watch anime (TV series, movies or read manga/book/light novel or play game ...etc) and see cool superpower and then you create new entry for it in this wiki based on the power of that user, Meta Transcendence based on "Featherine Augustus Aurora".

      For those that aren't familiar with Featherine she is from series called Umineko (when they cry) and she is a very powerful being.

      I'll try to give a Simplified layman's terms of the cosmology and the infinite hierarchy abyss:

      The Infinite Hierarchical Abyss:

      Realm_of_withes.png

      just imagine power level from 1 -to- Infinite, where 1 is powerless and Infinite the level of god, in her world she transcended the realm of witches and reached the realm of the Creator, but she only touched the last boundary. Anyone who actually becomes part of the Creator is completely erased, due to loss of all restrictions, including life, death, and meaning. and that where the limitation (Limits being self-defining, users are likely to hold back a lot to preserve their sense of self and meaning.) came from.

      Creator domain:

      Featherine is powerful and due to essentially touching the barest portion of the Creator's realm/true self, but not fully entering so as not to be consumed by it. Featherine is still limited by a sense of self, which one loses when they become part of the "Creator". Since you are no longer you, but merely another part of something that is 0. This sense of meaning stops her from being completely omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient.

      All who join the creator and Transcendence eveything are erased and become true limitless|Boundless https://i.imgur.com/teWi6Xi.jpg


      Eternal Transcendence you will walk that infinite hierarchy step by step for Eternity to reach the Creator domain.


      so it's up to you, do you like the journey to the last step and like to spend your time (Eternal Transcendence) or do you want to jump immediately to the last step without spend Eternity (Meta_Transcendence) Both lead to the same destinastion and both at the last step you will need lose your individuality to be limitless

      with the down side being that you can't transcend all limitation.
      

      That not entirely true, as you reach the last level/step you will transcend all limitation.

      Well, sure you have a point it maybe time consuming, but theres no guarantee that it will be a slow process, so we can't say it will take Eternity. for all we know it can take a second.

      a user of ET could probably transcend as quick as MT with the only downside being that they can't stop transcending even if they want to as its in their nature to do so.

      and a user of ET could absolutely reach the realm of creator and continue to transcend even that. In the capabilites section it says the user will be able to keep their individuality, allow the user to transcend forever in the first place. 

      ET is the power featherine wishes she had as she would /will be able to reach the creator's realm (without losing her individuality) and possibly even transcend it, become the new creator and still keep rising higher.

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    • DeuzExMachina: Plus,when i mean "will never transcend all limitation" i mean a user of ET will never be free of their sense of self. They'll never transcend their individuality which is a good thing.

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    • is not a fact

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    • Eckareot wrote:
      is not a fact

      What's not a fact?

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    • not a fact that will never surpass all restrictions

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    • Well, yes ET will surpass everything but it will not lose individuality. It say that in the capabilites and probably why the only limitation of ET is that it will never transcend all limitation as MT can but if a user of MT does it then they erase themselves.

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    • I personally do not like the forces that give you everything at once

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    • ET users will eventually transcend time so it won't take eternity.

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    • Meta Transcendence seems a lot more convenient, at you can freely choose which limit to transcend and in which way, change your mind at any moment and redefine yourself as you see fit.

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    • Well, it debatable. Both have their flaws.

      What you said is right however With Meta Transcendence if you choose to transcend all limitations then you erase yourself

      And with Eternal Transcendence, the user can’t stop transcending even if they wanted to.

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    • True, with the first you can get anything at any time, but if you get too greedy and go all the way, you basically disappear forever. And considering that "transcending everything" is a huge temptation ego-wise and the power comes without manual, MT kinda feels like a death trap that would probably end up killing most of its users.

      The second seems to come with lot of loss and grieving, since you endlessly leave behind everything you've come to know, and basically lose the ability to even relate to the life you had and people you loved because of the constant major change of perspective. Sure, you would soon transcend sorrow and regrets, but an eternity of losing everything you come to care about still feels pretty depressing.

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