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Talk Page Archive (08/25/19 - 5-17-2020)

Welcome to my Talk page!  Necrotifice (talk) 17:58, August 25, 2019 (UTC)

"Removed reference to the 'Seven Planes of Existence' in esotericism with admin permission." - Which admin was that?

Returned the reference as those powers are connected to/defined by/part of the Existential Plane system. Not having that connection would be like making separate pages to each sefirot without connection to Kabbalistic Tree of Life. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:28, August 28, 2019 (UTC)

So basically your opinion is that they fall under verse-specific concept and should be removed? --Kuopiofi (talk) 03:32, August 29, 2019 (UTC)

Is this an defamation attempt? The rules say that defamation is prohibited. Be careful with what you say. You may have problems because of that.~~User talk:Arquetion

Check Page Creation and Details and Rules of This Wiki to see the general guidelines.

21. If you make a general type of change on power that is one of a series of similar powers (for example one of the Construct Creations, Attack Powers, etc.), it's your job to add/make the same change in every page of the series.

In this case, if you want to make that change, you need to change all of the Primordial Element Manipulations. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:23, August 31, 2019 (UTC)

Death Horseman94 is actually she, and been feuding against imouto for quite some time. This year especially has been bad.

Why didn't you just post the list to imouto instead of bringing me to this? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:37, August 31, 2019 (UTC)

I think we are bit on the adult side of the wikia actually, there was something about kid-friendly and adult sites few years back.

Well, I posted it to imouto anyway. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:23, August 31, 2019 (UTC)

I tried pretty hard on that damn new power if you don't like it create your own new powers.

I've seen few people arguing over it and that's it. I don't see any reason to remove them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:36, September 14, 2019 (UTC)

Contents

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  1. Adding a new topic
  2. Primordial Element:
  3. He is not a user.
  4. Unfortunately we can't standardize that part...
  5. Ambidexterity
  6. Eternal and Meta Transcendence
  7. Hi
  8. Nothingness Manipulation Discussion
  9. Jump Calling/Augmentation

Adding a new topic Edit

Primordial Element:Edit

Hey, wanted to drop by and thank you for your edits on the Primordial Element pages. They look better now with their newer descriptions. SDPanthera (talk) 10:48, September 22, 2019 (UTC)

Hey there. Sorry I didn't get to reply to you last night. I had to go to bed. I would have replied to you on the thread Demotivator made, but I decided to message you, since I think it would be better.

Now, about this line, " As others have said, you are just one out of many users here, and you don't control or make decisions for the Wiki." I was not calling him out as trying to be a sites dictator,. It may seem that way to you, but I had intended a different meaning behind that message. I was just trying to say he wasn't admin, in a way. Believe me, if I were to accuse him of trying to be the site's dictator, I would have intentionally been more harsh about it.

That said, you did see that I was not trying to sound like a bully or abuse my power, and that I just sounded that way. Thank you. Let me say two things.

1: We all make mistakes, that is part of being human.

2. On top of that, since I became an admin, this is the first time I am really an admin, or mod, whatever, on any site. Not only were mistakes to be made, I never really exercised being an admin before.

I did tell Kuo before he left that I would try my best to be a good admin, and people on this site, including you, should be lucky that I am actually willing to change and adapt to become better. If I had an ego, let alone a big one, I wouldn't be willing to change.

That is to say, if it makes you feel better, I am not truly against Demotivator's idea (Powerlessness, why keep it?). But I am torn on some of the powers he listed, if you know what I mean. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 15:56, October 30, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I understand the pointer part you are trying to give me. With that, thanks.

"As a quick aside, saying " people on this site, including you, should be lucky that I am actually willing to change and adapt to become better " kinda has the same tone as Darth Vader saying "I am altering the deal, pray that I do not alter it any further". Saying "you're all lucky to have me" isn't great tonally. I'd recommend that when you type something, you read it back to yourself and imagine your boss saying it to you. If your boss said "you're lucky to have someone as good as me" you'd think they were being a bit of a butt head."

Yeah, sorry about that. Guess that is another mistake on my part, though I did not mean any harm there.

It's good to see that we're cool, though. Like I said, I am willing to improve. Anyways, thanks for the response. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 14:58, October 31, 2019 (UTC)

Some of the users have removed are in fact valid users.

So if your edits are undone please don't remove them again.SageM (talk) 22:26, April 14, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Oh sorry, I thought 662 was the desk scp not mr deeds. The SCP I was talking about was SCP- 738. I will just replace it. 18:35, April 15, 2020 (UTC)

He is not a user. Edit

Maxwells power is Summoning or Creation.

That's literally what his notebook does and how it works.

Its even stated by Maxwells father in the game when he received the notebook about what it does. 

So unless you want to argue with actual in game dialogue, then he doesn't belong on the page.

He can summon anything he wants with the notebook or create something from nothing.

He doesn't add life to preexisting things. I have played the games before so I know what the notebook is capable of doing.

So he is not a user.SageM (talk) 00:10, April 16, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Kaguya was not killed at the end of Naruto.

She only sealed away again in another dimension. 

It has already been established by her own children that Kaguya cannot be killed. That's why Sasuke and Naruto only managed to seal her with the help of Hagoromo/The Sage of Six Paths.

So you might want to edit your blog page to reflect that.SageM (talk) 21:24, April 16, 2020 (UTC)SageM

I tried to post my comments on the situation but I couldn't do because it was to advance for my iPad, he's what I have to say:

Sage has always had issue with powers he never approved of because the ones that already existed covered them, and he has displeased many users, but despite his flaws he's proven a valuable asset to SP Wikia, but personally I don't like his negative attitude which I grew to forgive but attitude and abuse of power are to very different things I can handle bad attitude but I refuse abuse of power of any kind. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 22:46, April 16, 2020 (UTC)

I left a comment on there. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:58, April 16, 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately we can't standardize that part... Edit

Unfortunately redirecting all the mimicry pages to physiology won't work on this wikia.

Because some of the Mimicry pages fall under the definition of Duplication/Replication powers, rather then Physiology.

We can't standardize that aspect of the wikia without way more work then is necessary, plus some of the page names can't be changed without infringing on the links and names of other pages. which would cause a ton of broken links and even possible mass page deleting.

It was a nice try though.

Also that idea was attempted once before by the staff, but it caused a lot of problems with links and page redirects in the process.

So that won't work i'm afraid, sorry. ^_^;;SageM (talk) 01:12, April 19, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Powerlessness was already accepted as a valid power by all of the current and previous admins and the bureaucrat.

So it doesn't need to be deleted.SageM (talk) 01:00, April 20, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Human Physiology is the umbrella power for a lot of different pages on this wikia, including the various Homo Superior and Magi powers, as well various hybrid and half powers, and much more.

Please stop adding candidates for deletion to powers you don't like.

I understand your a content mod now, but that doesn't mean to go ahead and start deleting powers that have been on the wikia literally forever.

The powers your adding deletions tags to have already been accepted as valid powers that fit the criteria of remaining on the wikia by the senior staff and admins.

Deciding what powers to delete should be discussed with the other members of the staff, rather then going ahead and adding candidates for deletion tags to random pages. Especially ones that always been on the wikia.

Please understand that I ask this so that another edit war doesn't get started by the other users undoing your edits.SageM (talk) 02:03, April 20, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Some powers that you might think should be deleted, shouldn't be.

Mainly because they are connected to so many different pages that deleting them would lead to mass deletions of other pages.

I know we talked about this before in the message about the mimicry/replication powers and how they are defined.

Its something that you should really discuss with the admins or bureaucrat, as it cause a lot of problems for other powers and pages if you started to add that tag to powers that shouldn't be removed.SageM (talk) 02:09, April 20, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Nature of Yoshi-

In the West, Yoshi is known to be a dinosaur since his introduction in Super Mario World.[17] Likely due to dinosaurs being known in Japan as scary dragons (「恐竜」), in the original Japanese manual of said game, he was introduced as a dragon (「ドラゴン」), and in the game, Yoshi himself signed his message in Yoshi's House referring to him as Super Dragon Yoshi (「スーパードラゴン ヨッシー」). He was as well explicitly referred to as a dinosaur in the Nintendo Official Guidebook of Super Mario World. Yoshi being a dragon was reconfirmed as well in Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2 and in the Western localizations of Super Mario Galaxy 2, since in the Peewee Piranha's Speed Run mission of Sky Station Galaxy, on the sign that Yoshi has put up, Yoshi states that he is a space dragon. Nonetheless, in his commentary on the Super Mario History Booklet, released in 2010, Takashi Tezuka stated that Yoshi was originally supposed to be a type of Koopa. Him possibly being a turtle rather than a dinosaur was then suggested in his official bio of the Kids section of Nintendo Co., Ltd.'s site, published in 2016.

More evidence-

https://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/2d/SMG2_Yoshi_space_dragon.png

Based on this information, Yoshi is both a dinosaur and a dragon.SageM (talk) 21:51, April 23, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Ok I understand,I guess I wasn't really paying much attention to the source material....I've never been to the villan wiki thou. I have an idea for one more page idea "tantric vampire physiology" this is one I've been on for a while.....I would like permission to publish it and if there's anything wrong n it's deleted I will accept it. Thank you and I'm sorry 😔

Ok I will and Thanks ive been using this wiki for...years now but only recently joined the discord and it was my first page.thanks again for the welcome.Ace Lestrad (talk) 00:31, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

actually meta transcendence and eternal transcendence are variations are not the same powers~~User talk:Arquetion

Would you mind separating/differentiating the absolute supersede and meta-transcendence’s page? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 00:47, April 24, 2020 (UTC))



True, with the first you can get anything at any time, but if you get too greedy and go all the way, you basically disappear forever. And considering that "transcending everything" is a huge temptation ego-wise and the power comes without manual, MT kinda feels like a death trap that would probably end up killing most of its users.

The second seems to come with lot of loss and grieving, since you endlessly leave behind everything you've come to know, and basically lose the ability to even relate to the life you had and people you loved because of the constant major change of perspective. Sure, you would soon transcend sorrow and regrets, but an eternity of losing everything you come to care about still feels pretty depressing.~~User talk:Arquetion



Meta Transcendence seems a lot more convenient, at you can freely choose which limit to transcend and in which way, change your mind at any moment and redefine yourself as you see fit.~~User talk:Arquetion

Well their are a lot of people with real world based powers yes, but Ambidexterity isn't all that common as most would think a everyone tend to use either their left and right hand for but EA is more advanced for then most. And plus with a lot of real world based powers why shouldn't be one of them Ambidexterity and plus their are a lot of real lame powers still in this wikia that even I thought should be deleted, and a lot of them make EA look better accepting Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 01:15, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

in the case of ET the user cannot stop transcending so they are not exactly the same MT can choose to transcend but if the user is not careful he can erase himself due to the loss of its meaning while ET does not, or at least the first constantly transcends its limits and the other can transcend anything with the risk of being erased by transcending its meaning~~User talk:Arquetion

OK gladly.

Meta-Transcendence is about personal boundary transcending. The concept was made after The Creator from Umineko no Naku Koro ni. The user can transcend all limitations or boundaries and/or Put limitations on themselves for a simpler life or better self defining since transcending all limitations would result in Self annihilation. Limits are what define things.With no limits, there can be no definition and thus nothing as we understand it can or could exist.Some sense of limitations has to remain in order to preserve your existence and connection to reality.

Absolute Supersede is the power usurp anyone that’s stronger then the user as to supersede something or someone means to replace someone in authority. This doesn’t necessarily mean the user will transcend the opposition they’ll just be stronger or better than them in status and power. Absolute Supersede could also result in replicating the opposition’s power and status but putting them on a higher level. It is also the opposite of Unreachable Magnitude. Unlike meta-transcendence this power is also weak to development reset or existence grounding.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 01:35, April 24, 2020 (UTC))

Absolute supersede users also might not know how to control the new powers they have plus it only works when they come in to contact with someone or something stronger than them. Was that a good explanation?(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 01:42, April 24, 2020 (UTC))



Meta Transcendence seems a lot more convenient, at you can freely choose which limit to transcend and in which way, change your mind at any moment and redefine yourself as you see fit.

Both powers have similar functions in terms of their subject matter, both can turn the user into a superior being and return to the way they were before, but one is a constant transcendence and the other has already explained it before.

I am not saying that both powers are the same since the two have their differences regarding the use they make of it.~~User talk:Arquetion

Ambidexterity by itself maybe, but EA mean enhanced version of if because you can preform advance usage with EA things like advance moments like fighting, advance multitasking and so on and in that logic I don't see u a user at all because picking thing up with your feet or just because u can use you left and right hand for different functions effectively doesn't mean mean your a user either because EA is about using them for all functions equally so you can't be a user if you don't use your equally, can you write perfectly with both your hands or are you a lefty or righty because if your more comfortable with one hand then your not Ambidexterity let alone EA.

True I'm admins but I'm still new to that because I still have much to learn in fact this is my first time restoring a page. Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 01:50, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

Well truth be told I didn't, I restored it out of request for a friend and also since the why should it be Enhanced considering that the idea is about it being enhanced in the first place ? Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 02:02, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

The principle or concept of Absolute Supersede is just usurpation or Supplantation though. Reactive transcendence could be another name for the power if you insist that it is a transcendent power(which it is listed as such but only because of how strong it is). If this is the case then a lot of transcendent powers would have to be merged together like Self Transcendence, Origin Transcendence, Body Transcendence, etc.

“def. Transcend: to go beyond the range or limits of, to surpass.”

def. Supersede: take the place of (a person or thing previously in authority or use); supplant.

I also given you other multiple reasons on why they are different. More reasons is that absolute supersede cannot supersede certain Omni powers because of their magnitude. How was that?(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 02:10, April 24, 2020 (UTC))

Hey Necrotifice, So I read the messages between you and DragonFox and was wondering how about we rename Enhanced Ambidexterity to Flawless/Perfect Ambidexterity instead since it is a superior title for the power much like Flawless Coordination is to “Enhanced Coordination”.

Plus, I think that if we do this the capabilities could be changed to something different and better for the sake of this argument on whether EA should remain or not to be finally settled, wouldn’t you agree? --Chris Urena (talk) 02:17, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

Hay like I said I'm still new to being admin and King said that he did talk to you about Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 02:19, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

Hey there, I saw your little incident with Dragon-Fox 7 about the power, Enhanced Ambidexterity. That said, I want to ask, before asking an actual admin, of course; how would a power like Enhanced Unidexterity be? The ability to use one hand alone for any task as well as if the user had used two hands, except it is one instead of two. Would that be the same as Enhanced Ambidexterity in terms of not being a power? Just checking. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:19, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:37, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

If that’s the case then how about just deleting it all together. Because merging it with meta-transcendence didn’t really change much of the page’s content.

I also recommend adding “Absolute Supersede” name in eternal transcendence’s also called list since meta-transcendence is about personal boundary transcending while eternal transcendence is actually about transcending or superseding with no limit forever.

It’s either that or giving absolute supersede its own page back but changing the content immensely(like giving it a new name, changing the capabilities and limitations, fixing the categories, etc.) (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 02:41, April 24, 2020 (UTC))

Maybe, but here is a thought.

What if we extend either Unidexterity or Ambidexterity to both hands and feet, and maybe an appendage like the tail, if the user has them; all very well? I mean, the feet can be prehensile, but not everyone has prehensile, usable feet. What could that do?

Thanks in advance. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:59, April 24, 2020 (UTC)


AmbidexterityEdit

OK, I understand that what I did there was an inappropriate move and I'll keep this in mind for next time. But as for Flawless Ambidexterity/Enhanced Ambidexterity, one possessing the power does not simply have "more equal skill" using both hands; what they have is is superior proficiency in wielding all of their extremities at a level beyond peak performance for us humans. In other words, suppose that you are lethally precise at throwing something with your left hand, and just as you can do that with said left hand you can also do the same with your right hand, your right foot, and your left foot, in ways where it really wouldn't matter which hand, foot, wing, or whatever you use to throw, shoot, stab, control, etc., because in the end the user's inhuman skill wielding/doing something with one extremity will always match that of the other, do you understand? Because that is literally what I intended to make of Flawless Ambidexterity, until, of course, you deleted the power. :T --Chris Urena (talk) 03:04, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

If you look at the basis of both MT and ET both approaches of transcendence are different. Both powers are meant to be variations of one another so there’s no need for both to be merged.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 03:04, April 24, 2020 (UTC))

I see. I was just making a suggestion.

That said, about the Coordination, we don't seem to have a Coordination power around. I mean, we have Flawless Coordination, but since it is Flawless, it would be something around absolute level, in my opinion. What about levels of coordination such as Enhanced or Supernatural Coordination, with Flawless Coordination being above those? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:05, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

Also, remember to respond to my other post, but even if Unidexterity and Ambidexterity were allowed...

Enhanced Adroitness

Would this kind of make them redundant? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:13, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

OK, then, my apologies. --Chris Urena (talk) 03:24, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

Eternal and Meta Transcendence Edit

I saw your reasoning on Arquetion page and i don't quite see that being a good reason to merge the pages.

Like i said there both variants. A form or version of something that differs in some respect forms of the same thing or from a standard. They are plenty of them on this wiki. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 03:41, April 24, 2020 (UTC))

Done Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 03:49, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Tantric_Vampire_Physiology

Tell me what you think

Thank you I appreciate the feedback and I'm glad you like it.about the also called thing in the page aura manipulation on the other terms had names from different media...it seems I misunderstood so thanks for clearing that up --Ace Lestrad (talk) 23:49, April 24, 2020 (UTC)

Hi Edit

Hello Necrotifice

I was wondering if you can you send me the source-text of the following deleted pages. Only Admins and Mods with access to content can undelete or view the content of deleted pages [AKA {red link} ]

Here the deleted pages/red links

According to https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Special_pages red links can be accessed by staff members only.


Restore deleted pages Special:Undelete —One way to undelete a page or review deleted revisions of pages》


You don't need to undelete them just review the source then send it to my sandbox https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/User:OmniD4C/Sbox 

I wish you the best week ever  0_0 23:04, May 3, 2020 (UTC)



Second thought: Instead of removing the users, why not renaming Enhanced Investigation to Investigation Intuition? Nengyko (talk )

how could I rework that power ?

Jasonscott8888 (talk) 21:47, May 5, 2020 (UTC)jasonscott8888Jasonscott8888 (talk) 21:47, May 5, 2020 (UTC)

the power to increase the knowledge that someone already has.
my problem is that I don't know any user who has this superpower.

22:01, May 5, 2020 (UTC)Jasonscott8888 (talk)

could put a god of knowledge?

22:11, May 5, 2020 (UTC)Jasonscott8888 (talk)

this god could increase the knowledge that the user already has, an example would be Athena.

23:24, May 5, 2020 (UTC)Jasonscott8888 (talk)

Yes, sorry about deleting that page. I know by now I jumped the gun there. I'm just used to the category being given to pointless pages that are to be deleted asap. I'll be more careful next time. Timjer (talk) 06:20, May 6, 2020 (UTC)

Do you know any users of Enhanced Investigation? Nengyko (talk)

Kineti-Telekinesis is about kinetic energy! not kinetics! Kinetic energy means energy made from movement/motion. Ask anyone! Plus, SageM was an admin. What happened? Nengyko (talk)

Nothingness Manipulation DiscussionEdit

To be technically honest though, From what I can intuitively understand, Erasure is objectively a substitute power to Nothingness Manipulation itself. Erasure basically means not having control over deletion itself, but just simply erasing something from existence without having control over it. But as for Nothingness Manipulation, as I've explained before, has Erasure as a sub-ability, and more importantly, as this is a manipulation ability, the power owner as a decent reservoir of substitute abilities that revolve around nothingness. And not to forget, the user could also be able to reverse the effects as the targets as the user wants to, or is willing to. Would that make sense? If an article were to be merged/removed based around personal opinion, like for simply just disliking or hating it, or being in your eyes as a "coincidental ability" that would've behaved in the same manners, I have to warn you that this would've made the action even worse and to appear biased. So if I were in your shoes, I would've just kept both Nothingness Manipulation and Erasure the way they are, they are still good as is. Plus, there are always different perspectives to things, whether you see them or not. Always. ChocolateElemental (talk) 22:19, May 9, 2020 (UTC)

P:S: If you are still to do this as you believe something's wrong in the Nothingness Manipulation article, then it would be best if it was rewritten to a certain extent rather than being merged or deleted. ChocolateElemental (talk) 22:29, May 9, 2020 (UTC)

I understand that, but what I also understand, is that if we can rewrite Erasure into a non-manipulation power, and being a sub-power of Nothingness Manipulation, I'm sure it sounds better on paper. Erasure would only be able to delete matter, but unlike NM, they have no control over the thing that was deleted afterwards. But with NM, like explained before, they have Erasure as a sub-ability, but once the subject/object is deleted from the fabric of existence, the nothingness manipulator can also have control over what's not deleted, or what is. For example, he/she can have the ability to reverse the deletions.

I think the reason why the two pages are going to get merged, is because both Erasure and NM are called the same thing within the also called sections, dubbed Deletion. I'd say Erasure can be named just Deletion, with NM being named as "Erasure/Deletion Manipulation."

But whatever floats your boat, this is just a suggestion I have thought of. ChocolateElemental (talk) 13:21, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

I saw your arguments against Handicapability in the Candidates For Deletion page. If I may, I would like to ask you something. How about editing Handicicapability, or making a new page altogether for a power which has the user still handicapped, but not only can they still do things normally, they do so by means of usage of their powers. That said, one could use their Telekinesis to move and stay strong to even walk, or use Light Manipulation or Biological Manipulation to affect their eyes so they can see, and so on. This could be permanently or temporarily, and while the user can do things others can do, they are still technically disabled. They just use their powers to compensate, for a lack of a better word, for it.

Don't get me wrong, I never understood why Handicapability has been a power for this long, either, but the above is just an idea. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:06, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

Glad you like it. I think adding Erasure as an Application is a logical and excellent choice. Looks like a good fit. Kusarigama (talk) 00:55, May 12, 2020 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:31, May 12, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw Disability Compensation and figured that fit the bill on what I was talking about before you sent this message. I also saw your stance on the same power, but still, maybe there is a way to make it work? What if there were other means aside from powers like technology or something that could also work to compensate for the power, or just have organic matter (not new body parts, but say something from someone that could help make it easier to deal with the disability, something microscopic, maybe?) to help with the disability?

This could be a bit of a stretch, especially the the organic matter part, but all of this is just a thought. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:39, May 12, 2020 (UTC)

I am afraid you are really mistaken where I am concerned. I am not actually interested in keeping the two powers. You have me wrong there. You may be right about the other two, but not me. I was just trying to come up with solutions to fix those powers. Just trying. As I said before, I do understand why those powers are, say, overly weak, to say the least, but just because I was trying to come up with these solutions, that doesn't really mean I wanted the power to stay. I may have seemed a bit persistent here, but that doesn't mean I like those powers to begin with, let alone care for them. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 03:20, May 12, 2020 (UTC)

One more thing. One last idea, to not really fix, but replace those two powers: How is making a Disability Negation page to replace those two, as in the ability to negate disabilities, normally, but not limited to being temporarily. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 12:27, May 12, 2020 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, really, but what do you think of my Disability Negation idea? Would you consider it a good alternative to Handicapability and Disability Compenation, or consider it any different from those two? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:34, May 12, 2020 (UTC)

My apologies, i didn'know. i removed it because of the reasoning. Which was to "improve the page and remove the delete tag", so i improved the page and gave it a new name. If you have a better name for it then you are welcomed to change it.

I did what was instructed so i didn't break any rules. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 21:35, May 12, 2020 (UTC))

Just a thought, that is all. Yes, it may be unnecessary due to healing powers and other things, but don’t think this was that important.

Well, go on and do what you are going to do, for that will be all for now. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 23:33, May 12, 2020 (UTC)

If you make a change to one page, then you have to make the change to all the pages in that category.

The standard template used for the Empowerment pages is already fine as it is. the description is clear and tells you exactly what it does and how it works.

It doesn't need to be changed. Your rewrite just makes things more confusing and explains less.SageM (talk) 02:15, May 13, 2020 (UTC)SageM

The capabilities are already clear and concise. Your edit solves nothing and makes things more confusing and has even less detail as to what its capable of doing.

I'm asking nicely, please don't change the template without discussing it with the other staff members first.SageM (talk) 02:18, May 13, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Jump Calling/Augmentation Edit

It's basically the same deal with Enhancement Calling and AugmentationSmijes08 (talk) 08:22, May 13, 2020 (UTC)

Ask SageM, or whoever made those pages. I don't know how to explain it. Smijes08 (talk) 09:15, May 13, 2020 (UTC)
Okay, I got an answer. SageM explained it to me a while back, and I just remembered. Allow me to break it down for you.

Augmentation is usually a permanent effect that works on the user. Enhancement Calling is a temporary enhancement that lies dormant when not in use.

Here is an example. You know how some people can summon incredible strength when their life in in danger or someone they know is in a tight spot, but otherwise are unable to access that strength the rest of the time? That's what Enhancement Calling basically is. Smijes08 (talk) 11:58, May 13, 2020 (UTC)

Why didn't you protest back then before you became a admin? You could put a Category:Candidates for deletion bar and wrote down the reason in the summary. Nengyko (talk)

I didn't mean to put that there! User:Nengyko (User talk:Nengyko)

I already did let him know on his talk page.SageM (talk) 02:03, May 14, 2020 (UTC)SageM

fixing it myself wouldn't really solve anything, as its possible for them to make the same mistake they did before.

Some users simply do not read there talk pages even after multiple attempts at getting through to them. They just ignore whatever anyone says to them or they become hostile even after its been explained to them for no reason at all.

You may think the undo button is not your friend, but sometimes there is no other way to get them to learn.

It doesn't matter if its a new contributor or an older user. And in fact some of the older users that have been on here for years have shown the same behavior when it comes to edits as the newer ones.

So what else do you want me to do? I already explained it to them. So please stop judging me for something I have had to deal with more times than I can count.

Even if I corrected the edit, it doesn't help them learn from their mistakes.

Telling them after reverting the edit works better, as it gets them to fix it themselves and so they can learn how formatting works on here by experience.

Its a matter of degrees after all.SageM (talk) 02:12, May 14, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Correcting the edits myself doesn't help the new users learn about their mistakes. 

And yes, there are some cases were I do correct the mistakes on occasion, but other times it doesn't really do any good because the new users continue to make the same mistakes.

Your argument doesn't really cover all the bases, because it keeps happening even after they are told how it works.

Just look at the former Bureaucrat Kuopiofi's contributions page. Over 99% of the edits he made were to users who keep ignoring the formatting even after its been explained to them countless times.

It doesn't always work the way you say. And as a new admin, that's going to be something your going to have to deal with.

Good luck with that.SageM (talk) 02:20, May 14, 2020 (UTC)SageM

I have already tried things both ways (correcting the mistakes and simply reverting them), but it doesn't always work. 

There is nothing you or I can do about this behavior, if I fix it myself. Then the new contributor doesn't get a chance to learn. If I revert it and explain things to them, they can learn to fix it themselves the second time.SageM (talk) 02:25, May 14, 2020 (UTC)SageM

I make sure to follow the rules on whatever wiki I go too. And I do this the best I can.

I may not like it but I must follow them.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 21:15, May 14, 2020 (UTC))

Was not expecting a response like this. Thank you for that. I apologize for any offense taken from my comments. I have not now nor ever had any intention of causing any personal discomfort to anyone on wiki. Times have been stressed and heated with all the activity on the site and the last thing that I want to do is add to any difficulty in discussions. For Handicapability, it is gone. Can't be changed in that regard. Personally, I did not see any issue with it, considering that there are other powers that I consider "non-powers" or "non-sensical" myself; that being said, it all comes down to what will be eventually decided by admins. The CfD purge is one of those things that brings up concern with me and others, if only it seems so sudden. The site, as far as I am concerned, though imperfect, seemed to be going fairly well. Didn't think anything needed too much addressing. I guess I forget how serious the fiction and community can take certain matters (being a wiki devoted to superpowers). Concerning your position, I find it actually fairly impressive to have you share that information. More often than not, I have not found how people have been able to find their way to the work they do on the site. Your openness is quite admirable. Hopefully, there can continue to be good work done on the site without feelings being hurt or creativity being stifled. I am glad that my contributions to certain powers were able to enable their continued presence. I hope the FANDOM can continue well and impeded and I hope we can move forward in a harmonious fashion. Once again, I am sorry for any harsh words and confusion. Thank you for your time and take care. Kusarigama (talk) 01:49, May 15, 2020 (UTC)

Please let me recreate Handicapability. You are right, It is not a superpower but it is an ability. Real-life people and non-superhumans have abilities like Handicapability, Peak Human Condition and Martial Arts Intuition. We allowed abilities only normal humans can only achieve in this wiki. Handicapability will help users take only a hour to get used to their disability while in real life will take days or months to be handicapable.Nengyko (talk)

various characters develop superpowers through training or their skills improve, I understand their reasons for putting it on the template, but it is better to improve the page instead of deleting it, maybe put it on page needs work~~User talk:Arquetion

ok I do not discuss it, but it seems strange to me that allan has not taken action, until now considering that another user had the same complaints as you.~~User talk:Arquetion

Do you mind blocking the user Dashwhity? 

He has continually recreated a deleted page without permission from the staff and has ignored warnings to stop, and the page he has remade already exists on the wikia.

So he is ignoring several rules. Since he doesn't want to listen to reason, a brief timeout is needed to get him to quit.SageM (talk) 05:01, May 17, 2020 (UTC)SageM

I don't understand why Draguns Superior physiology was move, there are other pages like Superior Alien Physiology, and Superior Monster Physiology and they have similarly to there Superpowered counterparts. D-ULTRA (talk) 17:37, May 17, 2020 (UTC)

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