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While how Eyelessness existed before was debatatable to us, if you want to reframe it as "Eyeless Vision", being able to percieve visually without ocular faculties, (see without eyes, but fancy wording XD), and stress that significantly over "immune to eye destruction" (as that is certainly the byproduct not main fuction here), then it certainly becomes a power. ^^
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While how Eyelessness existed before was debatatable to us, if you want to reframe it as "Eyeless Vision", being able to percieve visually without ocular faculties, (see without eyes, but fancy wording XD), and stress that significantly over "immune to eye destruction" (as that is certainly the byproduct not main function here), then it certainly becomes a power. ^^
   
 
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When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edit mess up the collapsed Galleries and you're one of them.

If you remove from Gallery, then remove from Users. And vice versa of course. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:20, September 21, 2017 (UTC)

No worries, you aren't the first one. :) --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:13, September 22, 2017 (UTC)

When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edits mess the collapsed Galleries and you're one of them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:39, September 27, 2017 (UTC)

When you add to Gallery, make sure they are in Users too.

Yes Discord has transformed into balloon, he's also full-blown shapeshifter. Bit pointless to add him to all minor powers he has. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:48, September 27, 2017 (UTC)

When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edits mess the collapsed Galleries and you're one of them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:18, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

It's something that could be wider problem with collapsed Galleries. I've contacted Community Central about it, but you know how slow that goes... --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:05, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

As a site we had that argument at some point already, can't remember what was said but the result it that Reality Warping Power hasn't been in Categories. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:26, October 1, 2017 (UTC)

Since it's so important to you, go ahead and add it to all Forms of magic. And I mean all of them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:54, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

No. Go ahead, it isn't exactly just some few pages after all. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:45, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

I said Form of Magic, not every page with magic in it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:46, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

I'd say you haven't even started with Category:Form of magic.

As for other pages (after Fom), check if the have Reality Warping/it's Variations as part of the power, those are Reality Manipulations, if they don't have it, they aren't. But please don't add it to various pantheons as that depends on whether the User taps on whole pantheon or just one of the deities. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:58, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edits mess the collapsed Galleries and you're one of them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:25, October 7, 2017 (UTC)

All powers work differently in every verse (just take a look at how magic is defined/described in various comics, films, games, etc.), so especially with something like RW, which by definition goes beyond what can be done in real life, giving specific on what happens under the hood is better left alone. Any explanation will either be verse-specific (ie. works like that in this verse) or best ques on how it would work in RL. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:32, October 8, 2017 (UTC)

You and Furrytopia have to talk and agree which form of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic is the right one, you two have been switching it regularly. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:41, October 9, 2017 (UTC)

When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edits mess the collapsed Galleries and you're one of them. Third warning.

Just checking if you've finished adding Reality Manipulation to all Forms of Magic? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:43, October 17, 2017 (UTC)

OK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:18, October 17, 2017 (UTC)

As long as they don't age after certain point, they got it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:40, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

... what... ? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:18, November 1, 2017 (UTC)

When you add to Users, series should be in italics. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:39, November 1, 2017 (UTC)


I'm sorry. After hearing that argument so many times in the past, it just irks me when people use it now. I apologize for being a bit antagonistic, but past experiences with this crap has made me irritable about it.

But again, I do apologize. I just want to move past this.Gabriel456 (talk) 20:49, November 10, 2017 (UTC)

Depends of the Users power levels, but certainly on higher levels. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:19, November 12, 2017 (UTC)

It just didn't seem accurate.

Supernatural Powers would also encompass Divine and Magic abilities which is generally out of the range of "Mutants" from what I've seen.

Generally their abilities range from Physical Enhancement (ex. Enhanced Condition or Regenerative Healing Factor to Psychic Abilities (ex. Telekinesis and Telepathy) which is more accurate in that regard.

Homo Magi covers the Magic side while Homo Superior covers the more "Scientific" side if you can catch my drift.

Take for example the series A Certain Magical Index where there are the Espers and there are the Mages, they are separate in their abilities' natures.

Hope that explains my reasons for removing that. CrabHermit (talk) 22:14, November 13, 2017 (UTC)

So is it Max Eisenhardt or Erik Lensherr, cause the second one is on few pages? --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:45, December 10, 2017 (UTC)

Might want to change the ones with the wrong name then. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:44, December 11, 2017 (UTC)

I've run into same problem few times. When it's the only User available, it really isn't amusing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:16, December 12, 2017 (UTC)

When you add to Gallery, make sure they are in Users too.

?Despite? her strength as a Pony, Pinkie Pie (My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic) can stomp the ground with her hooves, causing a shockwave. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:45, December 21, 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome. --Chris Urena (talk) 19:15, December 28, 2017 (UTC)

Mainly to keep pages reaching ridiculous lengths. You wouldn't believe how messed up it got before that rule was written down. Consider how long some pages we have now and add few layers to that...

Second reason is that since adding link to page means that by default everything that power includes comes with it, adding specific powers is bit pointless. Unless there's a very good reason why specific power needs to be explained/expanded. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:45, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

You have suggestions? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:07, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

Pretty good and pretty original without going for the overpowered. Clear and easily understandable too which is always bonus. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:32, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Death Inducement kills your body, period. Full stop biological cessation without error.

What happens after that has nothing to do with the power and depends of the verse/system dealing with souls and if other forces do something about the target. So you can be resurrected, reincarnated or just go to your rewards/punishment. --Kuopiofi (talk) 22:11, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

I don't think you can make power out of it, but have you considered world/character-creation? We have few members who have created quite extensive ones on their own use. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:42, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

Preferably no. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:53, January 5, 2018 (UTC)

Rules are added as demand for them appears, basically if something is written there it's because we had reason to make the point. Pretty much like any/all laws really. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:29, January 6, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:52, January 12, 2018 (UTC)

More of a special effect than power really. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:50, January 17, 2018 (UTC)

In other words, special effects for other powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:56, January 17, 2018 (UTC)

Been tried to some extend, it doesn't really work. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:28, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

Because it hasn't worked for as long as this site has been up and it won't work in future, reasons have varied but most come to not being bothered to go ahead with it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:52, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

Preferably no. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:05, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

What do you mean? I didn't really say anything about the Benders from Avatar so I really don't get your question. CrabHermit (talk) 23:13, January 24, 2018 (UTC)

Only difference to normal humans is ability to learn how to bend. They don't get that automatically. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:32, January 25, 2018 (UTC)

There doesn't really seem to be better option, so go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:44, January 25, 2018 (UTC)

When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edits mess the collapsed Galleries and you're one of them. Second warning. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:26, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

No need to change the rule. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:07, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

Just because the Superpower wiki page has its own definition of metahuman, that doesn’t make the DCAU definition any less true. Also, interviews are irrelevant since the DCAU is its own universe completely separate from the mainstream comics with its own definition for certain terms.RnR (talk) 14:55, February 8, 2018 (UTC)

Done.

Don't know id members can use it, but at least for admins there's Replace that allows you to change the pic. Much easier option than loading new one and then replacing all the pics when you find better version. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:41, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

It has happened few times. I don't mind if it's better version of same pic, but when they load something completely different over a good pic... --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:09, February 12, 2018 (UTC)

As long as it doesn't start a flood of meta emotion inducements, pretty good. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, February 22, 2018 (UTC)

Your welcome Dragon-Fox 7 (talk)

no problem

Slapson (talk) 23:24, March 20, 2018 (UTC)

There's a reason why we don't allow too specific animal powers, just slap water breathing/aquatic adaptation to Superpowered Physiology or any higher Human Physiology Variations and you're golden. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:30, March 24, 2018 (UTC)

Go with the new Also Called, SP seems to be about humanoids in general considering the number of aliens on it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:28, March 31, 2018 (UTC)

Powers (which are confirmed) first, then the definite Limitations and after that the "may". --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:34, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Idea is good but "Confirmed" doesn't sound quite right. Fixed maybe? Basic? Base?

That said, I think we should keep the separate sections on the pages with most Limitations. Something like 5-8 really doesn't need them.

Any ideas why some of your Edits leave empty lines on Limitations? It isn't that common but... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, April 5, 2018 (UTC)

Right...

First the powers that directly oppose the power without exceptions (anti-magic etc. in Magic and so on) and thus don't have any text, then the ones that tell what the power doesn't do, including the ones with powers in them. The same with the second section. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:54, April 5, 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure I follow... Every other page has the exact same template for Limitations, and I see nothing of Kuo saying you should have "Essential" and "Optional" Limitations, technically it already goes into that detail without those separations appearing.

There is good reason why "may" is used rather than other words as that covers the "Optional" whereas any weakness that is obvious such as "Magic has a price" is "Essential", I think that is why Kuo made the changes to Page Creation and Details to have the confirmed weaknesses on top and the "perhaps" weaknesses on the bottom. CrabHermit (talk) 00:32, April 8, 2018 (UTC)

Do TF2 Freak characters have enhanced mind as well? Because if they don't, they should go to Enhanced Body instead of Enhanced Condition. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:50, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

So that's "yes, they belong to Enhanced Body"? Because if it is, are you going to move them or should I do it? --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:21, April 11, 2018 (UTC)

Gallery => Users. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:46, April 17, 2018 (UTC)


While their power is incalculable, it isn't absolute. I forgot what comic it was, but the celestials even talked about different dimensions making people uncountably above them others, despite their 'seemingly' infinite power. As for Strength Infinitum, the problem is that you can't have one if you have the other. Strength Infinitum needs your power to be limited so you can continue growing stronger. Absolute Strength gives you infinite power, and once you reach that there is nothing beyond you can go. That's why I believe a lot of the characters on that page are up there for inaccurate reasons.

{{SUBST:User:DeathstroketheHedgehog/Sig}} 16:56, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

I understand that you want to make it clear in the limitations what users can and can't do with the "Essential" and "Optional" but too many pages are built the same way that it would legitimately be considered "personal" edits to the pages, that is unless you are planning on editing every page on the wiki to have Optional and Essential.

I would please request you stop adding those additions to the pages as it can be confusing to new people on the wiki who are planning on making powers. CrabHermit (talk) 19:35, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Right... Kuo can say anything about the situation but we have way to many pages as it is to make the changes you are deciding to make.

Even if he agrees, unless you plan on editing 9,000+ pages for your changes to limitations, it shouldn't really be occurring in random pages you decided to edit.

Either you go through with it 100% or don't, really simple. CrabHermit (talk) 19:53, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

7a. If you change the name, it's your job to change the links for that power. Here's the list. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:39, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

7a. If you change the name, it's your job to change the links for that power. Here's the list. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:56, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

1) which is why I'm allowing you the change to fix those links instead of just undoing the name-change.

2) you asked about my opinion about the Limitations, I told it and changed Page Creation and Details to reflect that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:30, April 18, 2018 (UTC)

Third time: 7a. If you change the name, it's your job to change the links for that power. Here's the list. Go to list given => go to the pages there => change the link to the page you renamed to current one => repeat until there's no old links = profit.

I'm returning the page to it's previous name unless this happens when you get active next time. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:20, April 19, 2018 (UTC)

Too specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:14, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

It does one very specific/limited thing, is essentially two powers slapped together and verse-specific. Just add them to both of those pages and mention the other part. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:48, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

1) literally just two powers stacked together 2) verse specific. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:38, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

You're focusing only on the first part...

Can you expand the idea beyond the verse-only concept into something broader? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Oh OK, feel free to change it back to being a variation of Modified Physiology then. CrabHermit (talk) 16:49, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Never mind, I got it. CrabHermit (talk) 16:52, April 28, 2018 (UTC)

Not really sure. He only technically appears in character in a single episode, as his only other appearances are cameos.

So its not exactly possible to judge him based on how little screen time he received.SageM (talk) 21:03, April 29, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Not a valid reason to remove them.

Thats not how it works. The Childlike Empress embodies neutrality, which means she is a user of BOTH pages. Not simpy one or the other.

Please don't remove users from pages if thats what your basing this on. Also if you actually bothered to check, several embodiment users are also on their omni morality pages as well. 

So your point in removing them is not valid.SageM (talk) 18:47, May 1, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Sorry. Sometimes most people/users don't realize there mistakes even after its been explained to them, so if I came across as being blunt I apologize.

Since I deal with other users like that on other wikias, I usually end up having to be blunt to get the point across. SageM (talk) 19:06, May 1, 2018 (UTC)SageM

Most undead are templates to be added to living beings. If you make animal zombie, it doesn't suddenly turn into human. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:06, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Or possibly add it to Also Called and mention it's for human vampires/zombies/whatever. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:45, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

I unlocked the page (I honestly forgot to, orginally locked it because a user kept changing the applications despite being warned not to) so you can edit that in now.

Thanks for reminding me, I don't think I would've remembered if you didn't message me :p Gabriel456 (talk) 16:33, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Potentially yes, depends of the individual of course. Certainly worth adding to Associations with explanation at least. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:28, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Point, bit of a brain fart there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:42, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry but I am just doing my job, you can try to make another power for others to enjoy Imouto 13:52, May 7, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Kuo and another user made a list of powers that needed to be deleted, so now I am deleting these such pages from the list. Imouto 15:49, May 7, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

I like the powers too but they are overly specific for their respective species Imouto 17:07, May 7, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan

There are days when I can't understand why anyone would want to be Admin... --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:45, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

I know, it doesn't make the shitty days easier. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:55, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

Ooo-kay, I'm pretty sure we're not talking about same thing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:31, May 7, 2018 (UTC)

" Anyways, why do you think Future Zeno and Zamasu are omnineutral? What do you think? Don't get me wrong though, Zamasu of all forms are actually of the alignment neutral evil, I'm just curious. ChocolateElemental(talk) 14:25, May 6, 2018 (UTC)"

I don't think future Zeno nor Zamasu are omnineutral. Zamasu thought he was a hero, and Zeno saw the destruction of the world, and deemed it terrible. There was also Zeno's test at the end of the tournament of power. He would erase existence if the wish wasn't an unselfish wish of ressurecting everyone, but a selfish wish. DeathstroketheHedgehog(talk) 14:25, May 6, 2018 (UTC)"


Yes, that was the test. It was later clarified by Grand Priest to be the test. He wanted the winner to ask to ressurect the other universes rather than be greedy. Of course the fighting was fun, but that was just for the Zenos' entertainment. The test was the wish.

I know using wikis are usually a bad source of info, but...

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Zeno

"It is also stated by Great [Priest] that Zeno would otherwise have erased all universes if the winner had wished for selfish reasons as this would have shown that the winning universe was no better than the erased ones."

{{SUBST:User:DeathstroketheHedgehog/Sig}} 13:26, May 10, 2018 (UTC)

Rules of This Wiki: "25. Before creating absolute/meta/omni-powers, get approval of Admin/mod, first step is to explain how it isn't "just like (power) but more". Any new powers that aren't approved are deleted unless it's something really interesting."

Second: "Check the existing absolute/mega/omni powers and Transcendent Physiology Variations (as those were the ones that kicked this up) for overlaps/duplicates, pages that are pretty much (power)+ without anything more, and in general cleaning up. See if the page can be updated to something usable, similar pages merged and if nothing else works deletion, which I think should be agreed by mods/admins to keep possibly usable pages." Note what the plant for those pages that make the cut is: "See if the page can be updated to something usable, similar pages merged".

Since you're so concerned about your page being deleted, should I take as acknowledgement that it doesn't fill those requirements? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:24, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

So remove the right to comment from members with threat of timeout instead of getting people make something good, that's what you're saying? --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:01, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

The pages that I flagged were actually really good quality. I just think many pages on this site that are similar to each other, for example Transcendent Mage = Transcendent Angelic/Demonic Mage could be merged into one big page.

Its nothing against your pages, we are just doing some housekeeping.

--Death horseman94 (talk) 15:26, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

I have to agree with Dh about the above, they could easily be merged into one page without losing that much. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:31, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

More like Elemental Dragon Physiology in this case I'd say, probably with links to physiologies and physiology specific powers (Angelic Magic etc.). --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:18, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

Might want to talk with Dh about it who seems to have staked the claim.

That said, as a group admins/mods have agreed the decisions will have to be group agreement. We tend to cause waves when taking larger scale solo-actions. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:56, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

I believe subpages are automatically made when a page has enough subheadings, so my idea of merging content would work in your favour by using the method you mentioned. --Death horseman94 (talk) 21:16, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

When you Edit please use only the section you're chancing. For some reason certain members full-page Edits mess the page and you're one of them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:04, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks.., -_-; --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:27, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

NM. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:37, May 13, 2018 (UTC)

We'll do our best. And whilst im here, I wanna tell you that all content and your work on the articles we are merging will be copied, so you won't lose a thing in the process (in case thats a concern).

Thanks for the link too! --Death horseman94 (talk) 16:01, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Celestials (Marvel)

According to the wiki and the Marvel Website

"The Celestials are immensely powerful beings, considered by some to be villains (confirmed as such in a few official works, where they have fought heroes and villains alike, they are greatly feared even by a being of Galactus' might - although in others Galactus has engaged and defeated them)."

So I don't feel like the Celestials as a whole should be on Omnineutrality because they are more closely Chaotic Neutral if anything.

Imouto 19:44, May 15, 2018 (UTC)Imouto-tan (Talk)

As long as you change the links to it, go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, May 29, 2018 (UTC)

7a. If you change the name, it's your job to change the links for that power. Here's the list. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:11, May 31, 2018 (UTC)

... and...? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:20, June 2, 2018 (UTC)

... aaannnddd... this is something I have to know? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:39, June 2, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't notice that comment and I thought about it for a moment and it seems you're right.

Fixing it now, should take a moment...CrabHermit (talk) 19:59, July 9, 2018 (UTC)

Text takes more space than pic => ax. FAR more => blunt = nothing but name/series left.

Keep the description/text about what the power is about, not biography/other powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:53, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

That tells nothing that isn't already there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:48, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

There was nothing that wasn't already said on the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:04, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

Preferably not. It'd just go into massive glut on every page as everyone wants to add their own ideas. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:37, July 14, 2018 (UTC)

Keep description short and focused to the power that page is about. No personal history.

Text takes more space than pic => axed. Far more than pic => axed to name/series. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:50, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Please stop using "despite" when someone has power exactly because of the reason you're adding after that. "Commander Bot’s (TF2 Freak) stamina is limitless despite being a Robot, or a Machine Lord to be more precise." makes absolutely no sense. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:01, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Enhanced Conditions aren't "average", don't add that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:32, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Balanced doesn't belong there either. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:33, July 15, 2018 (UTC)

Keep description short and focused to the power that page is about. No personal history.

Text takes more space than pic = axed text. Ridiculously more = axed to name/series. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:38, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

When you add to Gallery, make sure they are in Users too. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:31, July 17, 2018 (UTC)

Keep description short and focused to the power that page is about. No personal history. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

By now everyone has figured out that you fangirl TF2 Freak, but is it really necessary to add every single character to Gallery? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:26, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

Fangirl as in obsess.

No, I don't dislike it. But adding every single character to Gallery is getting to the point that quite a few Galleries have dozens of them. That's bit much.

So please go for a bit more selective with them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:03, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

"So please go for a bit more selective with them." --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:22, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

Adding terms like moderate tells absolutely nothing to those who don't know the series. Please tell what it means in practical terms. Does it mean leaping over a fence? Car? House? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:49, July 20, 2018 (UTC)

If by "possibly" you mean it isn't proven, don't add that part. If it's been done, why is it just "possible"? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:52, July 22, 2018 (UTC)

I've done that when the description is basically "yes, they have this".

Should probably do the same on Enhanced Swordsmanship... --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:29, July 23, 2018 (UTC)

Text takes more space than pic = axed text. Ridiculously more = axed to name/series. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:19, July 25, 2018 (UTC)

Text takes more space than pic = axed text. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:59, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

Because I can't be everywhere or notice things on the pages I haven't seen for a long time. And as I check every Edit, I notice the new ones.

Also because sometimes, no matter how you try, you can reduce the text only so far before losing the point. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:03, August 2, 2018 (UTC)

It isn't effect, it's special effect: little something visible that doesn't in itself do anything. It's like color-coding powers or adding sound-effects: something to make it different and obvious that power is in use. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:46, August 23, 2018 (UTC)

... you need to ask? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:34, August 23, 2018 (UTC)

You need an intuition to act as certain specific personality type, what exact point does that have? Should we add intuition for shyness, anger, etc.? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:40, August 23, 2018 (UTC)

So we should have jock, nerd and other personality trait intuitions? No. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:41, August 24, 2018 (UTC)

It comes under common sense, should I add something to Rules? --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:11, August 24, 2018 (UTC)

25. Before creating absolute/lordship/meta/omni/transcendent-powers, get approval of Admin/mod, first step is to explain how it isn't "just like (power) but more". Any new powers that aren't approved are deleted unless it's something really interesting.

Deleted. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:04, August 26, 2018 (UTC)

So, after all that: how is it different aside "more"? I'm not against returning it, just that it actually brings this site something that isn't repeat of the existing power/physiology + more of the same. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:27, August 26, 2018 (UTC)

Text takes more space than pic = axed text. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:19, August 29, 2018 (UTC)

Transcendent Bogeyman Physiology - returned, please add it to correct pages.

Almighty Replication - point, you might want to Comment that on the page to explain the change. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:27, August 30, 2018 (UTC)

Poltergeist Physiology for starters, then which-ever Transcendent Physiology fits best. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:47, August 30, 2018 (UTC)

How about this: you go through the series and find all characters with specific powers, and add them all at once instead of one at the time? --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:05, September 2, 2018 (UTC)

I check every Edit, 1 change/Edit with several Edits on the row gets old really fast.

From the top: Oxygen Independence 5 edits, Contaminant Immunity, Disease Immunity, Radiation Immunity 6, Poison Immunity 7. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:20, September 2, 2018 (UTC)

Because link you added to the level-name was already in the text. And the highest one before your Edit had Nigh Omnipotence in it. Bit hard to top that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:37, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

On second thought, links to the level names could work but they need to be removed from text.

Absolute level is really iffy as the original highest is Nigh Omnipotence already and you can't go to OP with lesser powers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:27, September 24, 2018 (UTC)

You're adding multiple italic-codes when you Edit, please stop that.

Adding just Unicorn means "every single unicorn can do this". Unless you're sure that is the case, please add Various or something like it before that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:21, October 1, 2018 (UTC)

That wasn't warning, just a note so you would know to keep eye on it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, October 2, 2018 (UTC)

Hello chocolatelemental.

Wanna be friends.

Just trying to act cool here though.

Also I know tf2 freaks.

Here are some I know.

Painis cupcake

Dic soupcan

That engineer. Not gonna say his name cause it's inappropriate

Pancake man

Intelligent heavy

Captain demoman

Scuttle bucket

Spencer Pootis

Christian brutal sniper

Piss cakehole

Snyphurr

Demopan

Spyper

Polite spy

MEEM, scout meem, soldier MeeM, demoman MeeM, pyro MeeM, engineer MeeM, sniper MeeM, spy MeeM, and finally heavy MeeM the most aggressive of all MeeMs

Demo samedi

Heavydile

Rubberfruit. Yes even Gmod users are freaks because tf2sona aka portmanteau of persona and tf2

Nightmare medic

Medizard

Cyborneer

Friendly scout

Pootis bird

Troll scout

Seeman and seeldier

Weaselcake

I got more but you get the point right.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 01:50, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

Hello chocolatelemental. Are you there. It's me User:Pokemonfan807--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 14:39, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

Did you see all the tf2 freaks I showed you.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 15:32, October 13, 2018 (UTC)

Change it to Unicorns => means every unicorn can do it. Since they can't, don't change it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:25, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

In Homo Superior Physiology's Also Called, Homo Sapiens Mutandis/Mutantis Physiology and Human Mutant Physiology...

Just because homo superiors don't look like monsters doesn't mean they can't be, looks can be very deceiving you know...

Homo Superiors can be related to monsters, literally, there was a character named Freakshow from Marvel Comics (Check Monster Physiology) who had the ability to turn into monsters, thus, its not a universal fact that they are completely unrelated to each other which can justify mutants being related to Homo Superiors.

"Modified version" really doesn't seem to make the cut if other powers are going to be variations to Modified Physiology such as Homo Magi Physiology.

I would really like it if that one word was replaced with "Mutated" or at least something different than "Modified". CrabHermit (talk) 21:30, October 23, 2018 (UTC)

My personal opinion is that it depends on the phenomen. Some are active, others are passive.

In case of created/artificial ones, I'd say it depends on the User: which one they make/can make. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:42, December 3, 2018 (UTC)

What does that have to do with anything? -_-? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:22, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

Aside of the fact that it's pretty much established (can't remember if it ever got written down anywhere) that you can't become OP/N-OP just by stacking powers, it's more of a trivia really. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:33, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

You mean Complete Arsenal/Nigh-Complete Arsenal? Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:50, December 6, 2018 (UTC)

Concerning Ichigo's hybrid status, I honestly don't see why it's "untidy" to have him on both pages. I don't want to edit war, I just don't see the point of your edit. Both powers aren't mutually exclusive; Ichigo is a Transcendent Hybrid, yes, but that doesn't change the fact that he is still a hybrid. More of a hybrid than even the Visoreds or Tousen, as Ichigo was born a perfect hybrid. Timjer (talk) 15:13, December 12, 2018 (UTC)

Now I am even more confused. You're saying that it is supposed to not make sense? What? You do know that such an explanation is never going to be accepted by anyone, right? Even wiki's solely about supernatural abilities that defy physics and biology still have to make sense.
Look, there are a lot of characters on two seperate power pages at once. Powers that are just variants of each other. Why are those allowed while Ichigo here isn't? I just don't get it and I'm allowed to ask why. Saying I don't have to get it and just blindly obey is honestly extremely rude. Especially since I'm not just some mindless newb anon but an experienced contributor. Timjer (talk) 15:25, December 12, 2018 (UTC)

? I seem to be missing something here. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:05, December 13, 2018 (UTC)

Like what was that about? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:57, December 13, 2018 (UTC)

There aren't any. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:12, December 13, 2018 (UTC)

If OP has any kind of limitation, it's not OP but N-OP. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:24, December 13, 2018 (UTC)

Pretty much covered by current description already. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:40, December 13, 2018 (UTC)

"one and only wielder" isn't clear enough? --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:13, December 14, 2018 (UTC)

OP is locked, so I've added it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:25, December 16, 2018 (UTC)

I won't give permission for something I don't know about. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:30, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

So demigods who are more powerful than "the most powerful of deities"? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:38, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

I'll call it Badassery of those two and say no. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:54, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Knowing this site like I do, sooner or later someone would answer to your idea with the page about more powerful deity who still wasn't MDP, and some other then go up one level, etc. Happened few times and it newer ends well. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:22, December 19, 2018 (UTC)

Words cannot describe the level of sarcasm. Believe me it would happen.

That and physiology which is basically about "can beat (x)" really isn't doable. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:17, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

That wasn't about you, that was about me. I've been here since -11 and believe me I've seen it often enough to put the boot down before new trend starts.

You know what the people who want to make those powers will say? "Because you allowed/we already have this".

Please divide your messages into sections, wall of text isn't easy to read. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:15, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

Can you think any way to change it from Physiology/beating gods to something more general? There are several characters who have gone against targets that are blatantly above their weight class and won. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:40, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

You want to try fixing that? As much as I dislike it, the following argument would take week at least and which way it would go depends on who wants to argue longest.

That's incidentally why I try to snip things before the power gets done. Once power exist, chancing them gets tricky. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:53, December 20, 2018 (UTC)

To repeat: "You want to try fixing that?", you just need to bed willing to argue your point for few weeks against others with equally strong opinions. But I'll say right now that I'll tell everyone not to bother me over it.

Also, Variations aren't sub-species, in this case they just share similar background.

That said, we didn't have Divine Lord Physiology back then, so some modification might be needed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:05, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

It wouldn't be a game if there wasn't way to win, no matter what the opposition was. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:28, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

1) completely missing the point of my previous message.

2) to repeat: "You know what the people who want to make those powers will say? "Because you allowed/we already have this"" --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:56, December 21, 2018 (UTC)

Third time: if you're so bothered about TEP, CHANGE IT. Unless this is all about the new shiny power and not the power balance.

I've told you several times that making precedent will make a mess. And trying to explain to those who want to make the next step won't work. It's not working on you and you're pulling TEP as proof that it should exist. Exactly like the next one would do. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:31, December 22, 2018 (UTC)

"Can you think any way to change it from Physiology/beating gods to something more general? There are several characters who have gone against targets that are blatantly above their weight class and won. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:40, December 20, 2018 (UTC)" --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:06, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Why must it be physiology? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:13, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

You haven't seen. Do note that you're asking about similar level of power. I've been adding rules when they are needed, not just because it amuses me.

And again: if you're so bothered about TEP, why aren't you chancing it? This is fourth time I repeat this offer and there hasn't been answer. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:58, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, meant TNP/Transcendent Nephalem Physiology.

BTW, only thing about Monotheistic Deity Physiology on TNP says "Transcendent Nephalems are below a Monotheistic Deity as they are only nigh omnipotent". That's the only thing that needs to be removed to make it just powerful instead of next to MDP. And not even that important to the power. Removed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:39, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

It means your main reasoning for making it no longer exists. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:50, December 23, 2018 (UTC)

Well, we'll see when it's done. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:42, December 26, 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:33, December 26, 2018 (UTC)

What are you taliing about? This is the first time you've ever said that to me. And is that an actual rule? Smijes08 (talk) 17:12, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

You just went to my page, chewing me out for not inckuding "series" in the pages for known users and threatening to bring it up with the admins. You make it sound like this isn't the first time you've said it to me when it is. Smijes08 (talk) 17:15, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

No one else said that to me, and I didn't see it on the wiki rules. Also, Asura's Wrath is just one game, not a series. Smijes08 (talk) 17:20, December 27, 2018 (UTC)

What kind of trivia?

There are probably others, but two come to mind: Apep from Egyptian mythology and Angra Mainyu/Ahriman from Zoroastrianism. Depending how you look at them, Set/Seth and Loki in later mythology may also count. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:41, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

There's link for both, take a look.

Set and Loki definitely didn't tho. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:16, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

OK, to expand a bit. I don't know much about Angra Mainyu/Ahriman, but Zoroastrianism is dualistic religion, which means that he must be pretty close to in power to Ahura Mazda/God.

Apep was bad news for everyone, he attacked Ra every morning before sun rose and Ra needed full crew of gods to survive that. Depending which myth you look, that crew might been every sun/dawn deity of the pantheon and there are plenty of those. Bast and Seth were certainly part of the crew, so we're talking some heavy hitters and Ra isn't exactly push-over himself. Eclipses were thought to be caused by Apep attacking Ra during day when he was at the peak of his power and momentarily overpowering Ra.

If you read Ape's wiki-page you notice that priests used magic against him. Looking it certain way it means they thought the battle was close enough that even few mortals might be enough to tip the odds. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:55, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Don't be surprised if it gets deleted again. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:15, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Why should Cosmic Awareness work against an Anti-God?

Why should Anti-God infinitely be forgiving to evil? Or at all? --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:39, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Keep Gallery description short and focused to the power that page is about. No personal history.

  • Text takes more space than pic = axed text. Ridiculously more = axed to name/series. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:25, January 14, 2019 (UTC)

Done. You'll remove the links? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:33, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Because Atlanteans aren't specific species/race but collection of the various ideas of what people that were/are descendant of the people of/from Atlantis are.

In original sources aside the noble/royal families who are descendants of Poseidon they are normal humans, others include humans with advanced sciences, humans with nothing more than ability to survive under water, underwater civilizations of various levels of changes, ending with the superhumans with powers connected to water.

And then there are those that aren't connected to Atlantis in any way aside of living under water and possibly having started as surface dwellers. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:59, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

So, I saw your request to Kuo. What do you mean by Outerversal, exactly? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:02, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:20, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Just to make sure, what did you mean by "existing outside all existences imaginable"? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:23, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

You don't need permission to Edit, just ability to defend your position when people disagree. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:28, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

You don't need permission to Edit page. You just need to be able to convince others that your opinion is valid if others disagree. What's so hard to understand?

I removed the whole thing as OP is beyond even that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:53, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Note the part about beyond? One of the things about OP is that it's literally beyond anything we can define, what OP page is, is just us making it bit more relatable/understandable for ourselves. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:02, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

Outerversal isn't even a real term. Its something that was made up solely for the VS Battle wikia

So the original names were accurate as is.SageM (talk) 21:21, February 7, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Omnipotence is unprovable by the basic definition of the power.

Its why Omnipotence isn't considered a power, its a State of Being.

You can't prove something is omnipotent because its exists outside of any form of understanding.

An Omnipotent being doesn't have to do anything to prove their power, they simply exist and thats all there is too it.

The argument about being Omnipotent or not, has been going on in this wikia for as long as its been around.

Conceptual Transcendence and Indeterminacy are the closest analogues to True Omnipotence that we can define in a form our minds can grasp.SageM (talk) 21:34, February 7, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Kami Tenchi is the best example of a True Omnipotent Being, in that doesn't have to offer proof any to his power.

Just appearing in the universe automatically ended the conflict between the Choushin, The Counter-Actor and the mortal realm/dimension.

Thats how powerful He is, he doesn't have to do anything. Everyone automatically knows he is all-powerful.SageM (talk) 21:47, February 7, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Bit too clunky I think. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:54, February 7, 2019 (UTC)

OK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:14, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

Well, not exactly super but certainly enhanced as theory are simply tweaks on the biology. I think you could add it/them as trivia to the page, but rules prevent adding them into Users. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:27, February 15, 2019 (UTC)

Yin Separation --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:57, February 19, 2019 (UTC)

My bad, meant to remove the category not the trivia. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:22, February 22, 2019 (UTC)

On this site, conceptually/in media or in mythology/folklore? --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:05, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

Conceptually, if you start from Creator, yes. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:40, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

In most cases, it looks more like parasitism. Could work as Association but that's about it.

OP means literally "All Powers", and it's more than just Complete Arsenal. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:27, March 2, 2019 (UTC)

? --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:52, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

That doesn't explain where you get the idea that they keep switching between sides randomly. Got a source? --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:41, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

And is your personal opinion that personal opinions should be on the pages? I've seen few quite peculiar ones... --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:41, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

None of them really pops up as The One. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:35, March 3, 2019 (UTC)

Sounds more like a minor mutation than being half-anything. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:31, March 10, 2019 (UTC)

That's change on the level that you might want to talk about that in Comments of both of them. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:36, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

It's personality type, not power. You're just combining powers that are associated with that character role in media.

And it differs from Omnipotence somehow? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:11, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

"And it differs from Omnipotence somehow?" --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:17, April 1, 2019 (UTC)

Sounds like a form of OP to me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:20, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Still not seeing the difference, but go ahead and show it. If it's too similar, the page goes. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:10, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

even an anti-god is not villainous it won't make any some sort of peace with the monotheistic god i'm telling you it doesn't even care if the cosmic balance is disrupted. In fiction most anti-gods are imprisoned by the supreme being to keep balance, i think your idea is fit in the trivia. Anthonytheidiot (talk) 15:33, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

Go ahead, but you might want to explain the reasons in Comments. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:39, April 2, 2019 (UTC)

The genre doesn't matter, just that User does what the power is about. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:18, April 4, 2019 (UTC)

Will you remove the links to Gestalt Monotheistic Deity Physiology? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:43, April 8, 2019 (UTC)

Source?

Mind giving me the source of those versions, since this is the first time I've heard anything beside the one you can see in Wikipedia? --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:29, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

That authors don't care about traditional monsters/beings and have to change them to fit their ideas. And more power makes better story. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:44, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Being transcendent power is part of it.

Good deal is about the fact that "thelemic religion" is made up one, and we deleted the fictional pantheons once already.

Cthulhu Mythos Deity Physiology is only exception of that for reasons that I can't remember anymore. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:23, April 18, 2019 (UTC)

Two problems with Satanic Deity Physiology: 1) it would be like Hunting Deity Physiology, not collection of individuals. 2) it'd get bit too close to Satanic Incarnation. --Kuopiofi (talk) 08:14, April 18, 2019 (UTC)

Aside it being about individual/singular being? --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:28, April 18, 2019 (UTC)

"collection of individuals" - like the pantheon specific Transcendent Physiology Variations, with their specific spheres listed. Hope that makes it clearer. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:43, April 18, 2019 (UTC)

Trinity, not triad. It's the difference of having three sides on same object (like prism) and three objects together.

That said, I'm not interested starting religious/theological argument on this site. I think we have rules about that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:56, April 23, 2019 (UTC)

So why did you feel the need to tell it to me? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:31, April 23, 2019 (UTC)

"So why did you feel the need to tell it to me?" --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:19, April 24, 2019 (UTC)

For someone who claims they don't want to bring religion to this, you certainly seem to be focused on bringing it up again and again. Not interested, please keep it to yourself. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:18, April 25, 2019 (UTC)

its literally stated that every example of Thoughtography has been proven to be fraud or a con, and even the people who used it even admitted as such.

its right on the wikipedia article, including the very person you mentioned in your edit.

Its also been confirmed in several tv shows that talk about ectoplasm.

Its all fraud. It was never a psychic power to begin with.

Sorry but its not a sub-power of psionics.SageM (talk) 21:58, April 29, 2019 (UTC)SageM

They even explained how they did it, and what was needed to pull it off on the syfy channel.

In fact its the oldest psychic con job in history.SageM (talk) 22:01, April 29, 2019 (UTC)SageM

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AI.Yes he is omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence

or nigh I don't sure because his power depends on his personality

his contradiction limits his power sometime

AII. kinda, yes he is, because he not good nor evil, he just contradictory have neutral, good and evil desires at same time

AZS (talk) 16:50, May 1, 2019 (UTC)

So why do I need to know this personal philosophy of yours? --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:24, May 1, 2019 (UTC)

So why do I need to know this personal philosophy of yours? I'm Admin, not psychotherapist you tell your thoughts. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:58, May 1, 2019 (UTC)

mmm I don't sure about Informations this time

I just testing my luck

Gestalt Dragon Physiology

what do you think for?

AZS (talk) 23:04, May 1, 2019 (UTC)

If you want to share wisdom and have conversation, you can always make a blog page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:38, May 2, 2019 (UTC)

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I need a source for that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:18, May 6, 2019 (UTC)

you can search on Kaballah.

I am lazy

AZS (talk) 18:10, May 6, 2019 (UTC)

Got a source that isn't basically his fan-club? --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:11, May 6, 2019 (UTC)

(eye-roll) And they aren't always right either, which is why I prefer to have more than one source.

Something I really should have asked on the last post, is there God in this belief system/religion or is it B as only divine force? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:21, May 7, 2019 (UTC)

Where? My eye s might be skipping over the part B's called OP but I can't find it.

Again: Something I really should have asked on the last post, is there God in this belief system/religion or is it B as only divine force? --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:55, May 7, 2019 (UTC)

Something I really should have asked on the last post, is there God in this belief system/religion or is it B as only divine force?

"Where? My eyes might be skipping over the part B's called OP but I can't find it."

That you can point me to only two sources and then say that I can find it from several others doesn't fill me confidence. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:50, May 7, 2019 (UTC)

Well, there's your answer. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:38, May 7, 2019 (UTC)

I know how to find informations about baphomet

but I am so Lazy

you won't find a lot of informations by searching in google or (other search engine) with normal way because he is Aspect and Example not actual person

after a lot of thought: Baphomet is not Real Omnipotent

he is Opposites Embodiment

making him Omnipresent undoubtedly

but he is nigh omnipotent (Omnipotence and Omni-Aversion at same time)

nigh omniscience Omniscience and Omninescience at same time

because his paradoxical nature limited his power

AZS (talk) 21:24, May 7, 2019 (UTC)

(blink) Oooo-kay... -_- --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:16, May 8, 2019 (UTC)

no I just know user of Pyschopathy Inducement

but I will test my luck

what about grim reaper from Assassination Classroom

Mikishima Shougo from Pyscho Pass

Genius Physiology from Roman Mythology

AZS (talk) 15:33, May 8, 2019 (UTC)

Again?

You aren't first to suggest that, it's still a no. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:27, May 14, 2019 (UTC)

Yes, "sounds". Please drop it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:30, May 14, 2019 (UTC)

What does not agreeing with your idea and telling it's not a good one have to do with respect? --Kuopiofi (talk) 09:45, May 14, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry if it game like that. I meant that while idea might sound or even be good/usable, we've found out that people are problem on this equation. Basically the whole thing goes wrong bit too fast for anyone's taste. --Kuopiofi (talk) 10:07, May 14, 2019 (UTC)

Trilogy

kuo said nothing for third time

can you help me

try to talk another admin

for now I will share trilogy

and I won't care about delete

AZS (talk) 10:41, May 23, 2019 (UTC)

I have language Issues

can you search in Jewish and Islamic sources

for write capabilities

also: sageM not admin

AZS (talk) 12:39, May 23, 2019 (UTC)

mmmm

it is not fit

try again with more researches

about kuo he didn't ignore me

he just don't tell me his opinion

I don't know if he will help or no

so I will share trilogy anyway

AZS (talk) 21:49, May 23, 2019 (UTC)

The difference between Modified Physiology and Mutant Physiology

Hey, so I was scrolling past Modified Physiology and saw the Universal Differences part of the page and had a few opinions to share and get some feedback for, if that's fine with you of course.

So, I personally don't think Modified Physiology and Mutant Physiology are that different from one and each other, sure they are different (obviously) but they have a lot of similarities that I wanted to point out.

The only difference I really see in mutation and modification is how the change is achieved, how stable the change is, and how much said mutation/modification changes the individual, but this doesn't seem like a huge difference to call them polar opposites.

There may be series that use mutations to achieve modifications through controlled mutation (i.e. using mutation to achieve a certain effect under the same pretense of control that modification supposedly has, such as using mutation to enhance physical abilities without going unstable). In addition to that, who says that modifications don't cause deformity or have more stability over mutation, a lot of the time they are very difficult to tell apart due to have far some characters from series take modification to their own bodies. Finally comes how much the mutation/modification can change someone, really there isn't much difference here either depending on how far modification is taken when compared to mutation. A lot of the times mutation makes someone a monster, but there are most likely plenty of characters out there make mutation look tame compared to their modification.

Overall, I personally wouldn't call Modified Physiology and Mutant Physiology drastically different from one another, but they are separate powers and that can be acknowledged. I mean, Science Attuned Physiology falls under Modified Physiology and Mutant Physiology falls under Science Attuned Physiology so they really aren't that different after all.

Sorry for the wall of text but this was somewhat bothering me and I wanted to get it off my chest. Hope you consider my opinion for any future changes to Modified Physiology. Much appreciated. CrabHermit (talk) 01:00, May 24, 2019 (UTC)

H

mm not total rejection

you are inspired me new cool idea

AZS (talk) 19:42, May 24, 2019 (UTC)

I get what you mean, but still. They really don't need to be distinguished as if they are opposites or based on how Marvel distinguishes its "mutants & metahumans".

Maybe that part of the page could be replaced with something akin to "Not to be mistaken with Mutant Physiology as mutation primarily occurs through viruses and mutagens while modification could occur through various other means."

I get what you mean about distinguishing Mutants from Homo Superior, but not every series considers mutation to be monstrous and separate it from Homo Superior.

Although, I personally don't know about Marvel terminology that much either so I could be mistaken here...

Overall, I don't have much of a problem with your differentiation, but I'm simply sharing an opinion/idea.

Thanks. CrabHermit (talk) 10:10, May 27, 2019 (UTC)

okay, I created Trilogy, you can make your edits now

thank you friend for your supports

AZS (talk) 12:31, May 27, 2019 (UTC)

Doppelgängers rampage

Remember how a bunch of gmod collaborators made a series on doppelgänger.

I really hate how they gave up after the seventh episode.

I really wish they revived it so that some tf2 Freak can beat doppelgänger.

At this point we need Stu pidface, nightmare medic, or some other stupidly op tf2 Freak to beat doppelgänger.--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 12:57, May 27, 2019 (UTC)

Depends on individual. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:29, May 27, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I’ll avoid their community.

Here’s a video that I’ll make you happy. It’s really funny

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-0u0ON1XxQ4 --Pokemonfan807 (talk) 10:37, May 28, 2019 (UTC)

Consider it deleted Imouto 16:10, May 29, 2019 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Its a bit hard to do on a phone, but when I get home I can help you make the distinction more clear without making the powers opposites through opinion, you can use the comment I made for some ideas and if you got a discord, we can talk on there more easily. CrabHermit (talk) 16:24, May 29, 2019 (UTC)

Add me if you want, using my disc name: Ethn#4016. Or you can join the official discord and we can talk more easier.

Cool, and sorry for just going ahead and making edits like that without consulting you, I just really like the page but that part was really bothering me and ruining the page for me. Talk to you when I get home. CrabHermit (talk) 16:30, May 29, 2019 (UTC)

Mutant and Modified

Alright, I'm home and I've done some thinking about the whole Mutant Physiology and Modified Physiology situation.

As far as I know, this wikia has a few versions of "mutation", literal and non-literal versions included.

The literal version, Mutant Physiology, occurs through literal mutation of the body, usually through mutagens and scientific alteration, whether intentional or not. It typically has a horrifying effect on the body however this may not always be the case as there are literal mutants that are more subtle in appearance or are even capable of shifting back to normal form.

The non-literal version, Homo Superior Physiology, occurs through various means but its basically mutation while maintaining one's humanity, typically resulting in abilities that don't make the user look like a freak show as a result of it, this can occur without scientific alteration or mutagens but some series, like Marvel, call them "Mutants" or "Metahumans" for whatever reason (at least, that's what I know since I don't keep up much with Marvel, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

The magic version, Mystical Mutation, which is basically Mutant Physiology but achieved through Magic.

There are quite a few versions of "mutants" and mutants.

(X)The main difference that I can see with Mutant Physiology and Modified Physiology is how they're achieved. Mutant Physiology falls under Science Attuned Physiology which really won't mean they'll get mistakened with Modified Physiology, so there isn't really much reason to explain their differences or call them opposites when they're not. The way I see it, Modified Physiology is the umbrella term for every power that involves gaining powers that aren't had initially, throughout any means, magical, scientific, divine, etc. Literally, Mutant Physiology is a variation of Science Attuned Physiology and Science Attuned Physiology is a variation of Modified Physiology. So you can see my logic here so far, I hope.

I'm not really familiar with Marvel's mutants and metahumans but as far as things go on here, they're separate and different, but not always uninvolved with each other nor opposites.

That pretty much explains my reasoning for those edits.

If you really want to add back the Universal Differences portion, I suggest taking some information from the part of this message marked with a (X) as its pretty much as unbiased as it gets.

Thanks and sorry for the wall of text. CrabHermit (talk) 18:21, May 29, 2019 (UTC)

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I know this article not understandable but please help me to explained it and find user

link: https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AZS/Three_Impossibilities

don't worry I love to talk much

you can take your time with me

AZS (talk) 22:36, May 29, 2019 (UTC)

Well, modification can be literal mutation as that would fall under Science Attuned Physiology. In the case of Homo Superior Physiology, I describe it as non-literal mutation but it isn't much modification either. If I could best describe it, it would be something akin to evolving or advancement, not really like mutation per say nor modification as its more natural than artificial. Although, Homo Superior Physiology is very generic in its phrasing so distinguishing it from other powers can be very difficult, but I'm glad you see some of my points.

EDIT: If anything Homo Superior Physiology is like Homo Magi Physiology except its not often magical, so they could be born with powers too, inherently nullifying the whole modification concept.

EDIT 2: Never mind, Homo Superior can be achieved by all means, it's literally humans with superpowers, I don't know where to classify this. CrabHermit (talk) 01:51, May 30, 2019 (UTC)

As far as I know, I agree that mutation can have varying degrees of effects on people, hence the macro and micro. CrabHermit (talk) 18:13, May 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hmmm, I don't think that'd work because technically thats what Homo Superior Physiology is.

I think its best to leave the page alone as the differences between Modified Physiology and any other power is pretty clear. CrabHermit (talk) 20:58, May 30, 2019 (UTC)

Variation, not sub-category. I personally think Modified Physiology is fine as it currently is, but if you want to change it its your call.

EDIT: Plus, Empowered Physiology sounds strikingly similar to Superpowered Physiology, the name wouldn't really work. Modification doesn't have to be just getting superpowers, it can be anything as long as someone didn't have it at the start, such as modification for a photographic memory or a Robot Arm. CrabHermit (talk) 20:55, May 30, 2019 (UTC)

Transcendent Bird

Can You Help me to Improve that page

Transcendent Bird Physiology

it is Strangest Article I created

but kuo agree

AZS (talk) 21:49, June 5, 2019 (UTC)

Pro-tip: read aloud what you've written before posting. Some things you write are really weird.

Try to keep it on what the power does, no need for excessive details. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:43, June 7, 2019 (UTC)

Then at least read aloud/check what you write, I wasn't kidding when I said some of them get bit weirdly worded. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:27, June 7, 2019 (UTC)

OK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:38, June 9, 2019 (UTC)

Hi

how are you dude?

AZS (talk) 14:07, June 10, 2019 (UTC)

The Name of Disease

I am not religious but I believe in Dragons, werewolves, ghouls and vampires

I think they are normal animals and humans but people misunderstood that and Mistakenly thought they are monsters

Yes there are two diseases:

First: for deers only its name: Chronic Wasting

Two: Porphyria for humans

AZS (talk) 11:27, June 11, 2019 (UTC)

No worries. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:12, June 14, 2019 (UTC)

Empowered Physiology

I want your opinion in simple thing

at first don't worry I just pretend to be angry

I will make radical changes in your page Empowered Physiology

I will change the name to Superior Physiology

Then I will add third statue for Superior Race

Which is Natural Acquirability:- gain superpowers normal race in fiction or mythology not have by Practice or inheritance

AZS2 (talk) 18:11, June 15, 2019 (UTC)

Peak Human Speed/Non-canon(fan-made) material

Opening Statements

Ok, if non-canon/fan-made yet "viral" characters are allowed I'll just add any and every popular artists oc i see to this wiki or lets just add non-canon fanmade powers that the community fell like it'd fit a certain character but have been denied or completely ignored by original creators, lets just add a piece of gum i found on the fucking sidewalk to the adhesive mimicry article for fucks sake. I believe if you're going to have a wiki for all superpowers/abilities it should be comprehensive and canonical/true to the base fucking material. If the wiki runners really believe non-canonical fan-made material should be allowed just cause it popular, I'm going to be frank here, that's a terrible way to moderate this wiki's contents. If it's a non-canonical spin-off like let's say, the JoJo one-off novels, such as Purple Haze Feedback, and Jorge Joestar, or the Dragon Ball spin off series' such as Dragon Ball Heroes and Dragon Ball GT which are endorsed by the series creator or parent studio, although still non-canon, it's fine, but something 100% fan-made is just ridiculous.  D0munit (talk) 01:50, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

I will not "cease and desist"

Starting of with RWBY and Red vs. Blue, those series are produced by a studio and an have actual notable existence, even though RvB uses Halo assets its completely separate from Halo and has become its whole thing entirely, if you were to ask me if anything from RvB should be on here back in 2003 I'd say hell no cause it was just a machinima series that didn't have a significant existence, and as for RWBY that is a wholly original series created by a studio like any comic or movie or cartoon. Hell I'll use more examples, would you put LazercCollection in here? ASDF? Gorgeous Freeman? Any of the content from Egoraptor's Awesome series? I'd say no.


To digress, I've been an avid TF2 fan for 7 years, 8 starting tomorrow, and I've never heard of whatever the hell an aberrant is, I know my Painis Cupcakes and Vagineers and Ci? Demopan etc. etc. but even with those  i'd never put them on a wiki like this, hell even the anything Kitty0706 (god rest his soul) made wouldn't go on here cause it's parody fan-made content that isn't telling a story that's been going on for nearly 18 seasons and is on fucking Netflix like RvB is. I don't know the fuck an aberrant is and I don't know why you're so adamant in putting them on here, you just look like a 12 year old that wants to put every single oc they made for a 100,000 word Warriorcats fanfic on here, please give me an iota of a reason to believe these stupid fucking gmod creations that were probably made by a bored teenager in 2009 cause he liked TF2 and wanted to make a gmod short based on it should be here.

Get out of your fucking delusions kid. D0munit (talk) 18:42, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

Continued

The reason I'm saying this is because putting aberrants on here sets a terrible precedent and just puts up a big ass "ANYTHING GOES" sign on the wiki.

D0munit (talk) 18:49, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

You still haven't proven your point

Getting mad at me and typing in all caps does not explain why abberants are important enough to be showcased on this wiki, it just shows you are an extremely adamant fan of them. Thus showing the only reason you want them here is cause of your bias and obsession for it. I've had my fair share of favorite fan works an fan-fiction content in the past and even if I'd like them now as much as I did back then, I wouldn't for them on here because I feel like this wiki should be as cohesive and true to source as possible.

D0munit (talk) 19:25, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

What?

What was that first section even about? you're saying I blame others for my mistakes? under what context? Also you're saying you made a "deal" with Kuo? does that mean this has been a problem before? And again I don't see how these are notable in any way these characters just seem like a generic gmod creation that have no real place here in my opinion. I understand with shit like RWBY, RvB, Homestuck, cause even though they're not huge properties, they do have an online cult following, however with these abberants they are followed by a fraction TF2 fans, at least with. At least with RvB I've seen and know non-Halo fans that enjoy it, with abberants I can't see anything other than a fraction of an existing fanbase knowing, let alone liking them.

D0munit (talk) 19:53, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

Abberants issue continued

I understand having a balance of freedom and regulation is important but when you have a wiki made to be a comprehensive and accurate list of all powers and users of such powers it should be under strict montering. Doctumentation requires a lot more regulation or order than freedom. And listing weird things people created by distorting a character model in gmod is a little too much freedom dude.

Figuring out what counts as "popular media" is a very tricky subject, due to obscure media possibly still having a place on here, or what ever an aberrant is which has a small following, not really fitting here, in my opinion. You have to draw a fucking line somewhere dude and this is just too much.

D0munit (talk) 22:40, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

Aberrants Continued 3

As far I can tell you are the only person that cares about these characters. And secondly I'd get banned if I was actively fighting with you on the article itself, forcing it to be changed. I did it once and took it to your talk page since there is no way these aberrants are that popular, you're just blowing they're popularity out of proportion because of you bias with as these characters as a "tf2freakologist" If these we're on the level of RvB i'd be "yea sure, whatever" but they're not, they're obscure as hell nothing characters that you have set as part of your hyper-fixation. 

D0munit (talk) 18:54, June 25, 2019 (UTC)

I am still going with this

You seem to focus on one statement or question and ignore the rest. You still are blowing out of proportion how popular these things are. You think they are mega super ultra viral but I have seen no examples of there existence or anyway talking about them outside of you. These are fan-fictional characters that you have you hyper-fixation on, causing immense bias towards how popular you perceive these characters. These just are not big enough to be on this wiki in my eyes, or show me how popular these are (something I've asked at least 3 times, if I remember correctly.)

D0munit (talk) 19:54, June 25, 2019 (UTC)

I still do not agree with your point

I already told you don't believe that even Painis Cupcake, Vagineer, CBS, etc, belongs on here, so idk why you brought that up. And had I no idea TF2 freaks had its own wiki, if you had told me if it had a wiki I probably would have backed off like 10 posts ago dude, is it an active wiki? or is it only run by like 5 people. 

Also I used the word "hyper-fixation" for a reason dude, its a term for a reason, you should know what that is, and it's painfully obvious that tf2freaks is your hyper-fixation. 

Either way, I still PERSONALLY believe in my OPINION (a word I've used at least 12 times to tell you this) that "TF2Freaks" have 0 place on this wiki

Also I already said that Red vs Blue is in an entirely different league than tf2freaks.


D0munit (talk) 21:58, June 25, 2019 (UTC)

Why not lie?

So you're saying the Freaks wiki is a bad wiki? I was almost about to give you a pass? and you just threw it away?

Final Statements

Well I don't know what else to input here, I've said everything I've had to say, and we're both stubborn on our points. If you feel like you should involve an admin go for it, I still want these things gone.

D0munit (talk) 22:38, June 25, 2019 (UTC)

Can't find anything about calling you 12 years old but I do find you calling him asshole, and D0's far less insulting than you on his posts. Quite frankly you come out as far more fanatical about this than he is, so please don't try to use that as evidence.

If it's so big problem, should I consider TF2 Freaks unusable on this site and start removing it? --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:40, June 26, 2019 (UTC)

So it's about "10. Characters that are put up must be from published canon source. Fanon sources such as fanfiction do not count and will be removed." and the added characters aren't from TF2 canon?

I don't think that the founder of this site was around back when I joined this site, and I personally have no idea how to do the inner workings of wikia, so I fear you're on your own with that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:31, June 26, 2019 (UTC)

Well, that's ultimately your choice if you decide to add them there and/or remove them from here. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:51, June 26, 2019 (UTC)

I’ve got your back

I see your arguing with someone that wants to remove tf2 freaks from this wiki.

Don’t worry. Chocolate elemental I’m on your side. I do feel like that guy is a huge jerk. Seriously what’s his problem?--Pokemonfan807 (talk) 11:22, June 28, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry, I just feel bored

which brought me to make them block me

sorry but I really don't hate anyone

AZS (talk) 12:52, June 29, 2019 (UTC)

Because it's a "Page that Needs Work"? -_- --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:17, July 5, 2019 (UTC)

You did very similar thing few years ago and then decided it didn't work, removed few and left the rest to other people to fix. I think we still have few of those around.

Please drop it.

SFW - well, have fun with that. --Kuopiofi (talk) 19:12, July 8, 2019 (UTC)

Are we talking about you adding new sections to Limitations or is that just general complaining?

Went back over year in Ultimate Regeneration and only Edits I've done are to gallery and moving few lines around, what was that supposed to prove?

BTW, if you're the admin/bureaucrat of SFW, I wonder how long it'll take before you go down this same path every admin goes... or seek replacement. --Kuopiofi (talk) 20:16, July 8, 2019 (UTC)

Yeesss... chancing "have special immunities that happen to be destructive and/or harmful to opponents and among other things" to "have immunities that are destructive and/or cause back-flash". Terrible.

Admittedly Capabilities got serious cut but that was basically cut to the basics so someone else could expand it. At least I didn't have to compare infobox, first description and Capabilities to try to figure out what the power was actually supposed to do.

UR could use some trimming, want to show how it's done?

You'd like to be admin that isn't the final source of authority and can step back whenever you'd want. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:48, July 9, 2019 (UTC)

OK. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:22, July 9, 2019 (UTC)

/

In other words, complicating thing that works perfectly well "just because".

No.

And you'd just drop it inside week anyway and then leave the mess to be fixed. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:51, July 21, 2019 (UTC)

1) More sections isn't better, it's just new section. All of your ideas for changes to Limitations have been variations of this exact same thing.

2) Your track record with similar ideas with Limitations: you change few dozen pages and then it just drops. And then someone (me) has to get around to remove the changes.

Out of curiosity, why do you keep telling me how disappointed and hurt you are? Because quite honestly that sounds like trying emotional blackmail so you get what you want instead of giving me coherent reason. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:33, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

That said, there is something similar in use. Check for example Magic and Regenerative Healing Factor Limitations, you take the main Limitation and add the lesser/more specific details under it. --Kuopiofi (talk) 07:08, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

You seriously need to use less walls of text, your answer to my one question was somewhere middle of your extensive explanation why your changes have to be done.

As for the rest of that, no matter how good ideas you claim to have, the fact is that your history says very clearly you don't finish what you start. And this is the thing I haven't gained single answer. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:10, July 23, 2019 (UTC)

help: mutated ghost

Mutated Ghost Physiology

this article need improve

Ooo366 (talk) 00:06, August 12, 2019 (UTC)

I deleted the image for you Imouto 21:56, August 12, 2019 (UTC)Imouto-tan

Sorry

I'm sorry

Ooo366 (talk) 23:56, August 13, 2019 (UTC)

Don't Worry, I'm don't kind of people who overthink about things

what about mutated ghost?

Ooo366 (talk) 00:03, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

this is Mutated Ghost Physiology

Newer mind. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:25, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Re:Seriously Dude?

First of all, yes I am serious.

Secondly, please do not give ultimatums like that. You're not an admin.

Thirdly, you're the one making constant unnecessary edits.

And fourthly, pretty sure this wiki consistently lists the franchise the characters are from, not the publisher or creator. Otherwise, why not change all "Star Trek" to "Paramount"? Or "Star Wars" to "Disney"? Or "Dragonball" & "Bleach" & "One Piece" to "Shonen Jump"? Look, I don't care if Doomguy made cameo appearances in those games. Even if they are a shared universe (which they aren't) it still doesn't change the fact that he is primarily a character from the Doom franchise only. Timjer (talk) 19:44, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Again, you're not an admin, please don't be so incredibly rude and bossy. I figured we could talk this out, especially since we never had any conflict before. Guess I was wrong.

Regardless, I'm not taking your words out of context, I'm pretty much applying them exactly how you said them and explained very carefully why you were wrong. And don't you dare act like I've never done anything productive on this wiki. My edits may be less than yours, yes, but I'm not the one who constantly spams edits like the TF2Freak ones or changing perfectly good spelling for no real reason.

Look, either you calm down and stop being so rude, or I'll contact an actual admin. Timjer (talk) 19:58, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Look, I'm sorry about whatever I might have done to offend you soooooo much, but since you keep getting angrier and angrier at me for no real reason, I had no choice but to inform Kuo about it. Let's hope an actual admin can sort things out between us. Timjer (talk) 20:25, August 14, 2019 (UTC)

Series: use the verse, not the publisher/company. I think I need to add that to Rules... --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:32, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

If you're talking about the previous message, it is there now. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:02, August 15, 2019 (UTC)

Got a note about your comments on Absolute Violence. Seriously, you need to cool off. You're taking it way too personally.

As you quoted rule#3 right before breaking all of them, please consider this your first warning.

And please don't escalate this by sending a message to my Talk-page just to shout about this. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:23, August 18, 2019 (UTC)

Saying that the other one did it first won't make it better when it's about you. Just keep on the limits of the rules when you argue and you're good. --Kuopiofi (talk) 15:55, August 18, 2019 (UTC)

Knowing what your ideas are like I suspect I don't like this, but what rules? --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:28, August 18, 2019 (UTC)


rule 1 is probably not useful, since sometimes powers are invented.

as for rule 2 it is probably useful but I am undecided.~~User talk:Arquetion

I agree with the above, but with one addition. Funnily enough, quite a few powers were made up, only to it later turned out there's users for them.

Second is basically implied already: words of the one who created the power have more weight when it comes to arguing what the power is about, but that's because they know what they were trying to do when they did it. And that's how far their authority over done power goes. --Kuopiofi (talk) 21:05, August 18, 2019 (UTC)

Text length

If you want to keep me from cutting down the texts, please keep them short and to the point, it's even written down for reference:

Keep description short and focused to the power that page is about. No personal history. (I also add to this part, please no details that don't really have anything to do with the power you're adding the pic)

Text takes more space than pic = axed text. Ridiculously more = axed to name/series. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:28, August 28, 2019 (UTC)

Your opinion.

Above text is from Page Creation and Details, Gallery section. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:46, August 28, 2019 (UTC)

And your personal one even so. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:01, August 28, 2019 (UTC)

transcendent homo superior physiology

So to you a human with godly incarnation does not count as a THS huh?--Morningstar123

Yes, you're right. I'm not an admin and therefore I don't make the rules. But that is also not relevant in any way because we still have to follow the rules. And quite frankly I don't see how any of those quotes of yours are relevant to their pages in any infinitesimal way. Please stop being angry at me here; your actions border on vandalism (once again) while I'm only following the rules here. You don't like the rules? Complain to an admin. Timjer (talk) 10:35, August 30, 2019 (UTC)

9. Do not edit the User pages of others. First time gets a warning, second time gets block.

9a. This includes other peoples messages on Talk-page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:31, August 30, 2019 (UTC)

I beg to differ. Maybe it was unintentional, but you still needlessly edited AZS' comment on my talk page. Timjer (talk) 11:43, August 30, 2019 (UTC)

See above. I rather doubt you make that bad spelling mistakes. --Kuopiofi (talk) 13:56, August 30, 2019 (UTC)

I know. That's just a note, not a warning. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:21, August 30, 2019 (UTC)

Jesus Christ

Islamic Version of Jesus Just Transcendent Human not Godly Incarnation

Ooo366 (talk) 17:13, August 30, 2019 (UTC)

THS physiology

...Jesus is a human right? With godly incarnation. Which makes him a human with the supernatural properties and/or powers as God himself. So why do you insist on removing him?!!--Morningstar123

Transcendent Yammy

Sure. For starters, as an Arrancar Yammy isn't a "true" hybrid. Arrancar are not Hollow/Shinigami hybrids like the Visored are, they are more Hollows that have gained powers similar to that of Shinigami; it's also a natural evolution of them. Huge difference. Secondly, Yammy is the strongest Arrancar (that we know of), yes, but despite that he is not a Transcendent being as Bleach defines it. While I admit the definiton "Transcendent" in Bleach is pretty vague, what I do know is that Yammy does not qualify according to the few examples we've been given. He's not a divine being like the Soul King and body parts, and his power is still surpassed by non-transcendent beings like Yamamoto, Aizen, Kenpachi, etc...
That being said, I might be willing to put the Espada's "what if" Hogyoku forms from the Brave Souls game under regular Transcendent beings, but I'm still not sure about it. Timjer (talk) 08:05, September 1, 2019 (UTC)

Bumping this, as you seem to be ignoring the fact that I already answered this here. Timjer (talk) 15:18, September 1, 2019 (UTC)
Well, what evidence are you looking for? I just explained it to you using facts from Bleach lore (and considering I'm a huge Bleach fan, I tend to know it). While I admit again that the term "Transcendent" in Bleach is quite vague (unlike God Ki in Dragon Ball Super), I guarantee Yammy is not it. He's just a powerful Arrancar with immense strength, yes, but that's it. There are still non-Transcendent beings way stronger than him, and beings like Yhwach, the SK & limbs, and Hogyoku Aizen surpass even them. And we know for a fact that those examples are Transcendent.
Not only that, but those examples either are genuine deities, related to one, or ascended through an artifact. Or in Ichigo's case, having such Raw power due to being an actual hybrid of all beings, making him on the level of a Transcendent being. Yammy is not one of those things. I wouldn't even say he has Raw Power, as his strength does not defy the rules of the setting either. Timjer (talk) 17:19, September 1, 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure I entirely understand what you mean, but I also dislike it when people use words and terms outside of their intended meaning. Especially if it's in public works. That being said, as long as they are consistent in their own usage of it (such as Naruto and their Chakra), I can still tolerate it. Besides, pretty sure Bleach does use the term "Transcendent" correctly. It's just not always clear when a being qualifies for transcendence, such as Ichibe or Kenpachi. Are those two just really powerful, or do they actually border on transcendence?
P.S.: Pretty sure Marvel makes a differences between Mutants (X-Men) and Mutates (Spidey). Sadly, though, they aren't very clear with it and while both are Metahumans, X-Men should probably be called something else, as they're a human subspecies (X-gene) rather than actual mutants. Timjer (talk) 17:50, September 1, 2019 (UTC)

...

"Please read the rules before getting riled up for simply reversing one of your edits."-If i think i'm right i'll say so, thank you very much.

"Jesus Christ is a godly incarnation of God himself, nothing more."-And when did i state otherwise? A human with godly incarnation, that is, a 100% human that is a manifestation of God himself, would be a transcendent human.

"No religious debates. If anyone breaks this rule they will be blocked for 24 hours"-So now i don't even have the freedom to add mythological entities to pages. Joy. And by the way, i don't think they mean a debate as trivial as this. I think it refers to debates in which people insult each others cultures, so stop trying to defend yourself by twisting the wiki's rules. That's lame. As of yet you have not provided me with a concrete reason that proves me wrong, and instead repeat THE EXACT SAME THING i've been telling you.--Morningstar123

Getting Sick of Your BS

If a character, whether mythological or otherwise, fits a category, said character should be added. How do you think other mythic entities were added to pages? IF YOU CAN'T DEFEND YOUR POINTS, THEN SAY SO AND STOP TRYING TO HIDE BEHIND RULES OF THE WIKI, WHICH YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND ANYWAY. If what you're saying is true, then kuo should have banned me thousands of edits ago, and the other admins would have too. So i'm adding him to the damn page, unless you have an ACTUAL POINT to convince me otherwise.--Morningstar123

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So now i'm harassing you and acting like a seven year old for defending my own points? Are you stupid? If someone doesn't agree with you and takes up a debate you start whining like an unfed child? If it bothers you that much then PISS OFF and let me edit the page in peace. BTW, you still have not given me a single concrete point.

" I will have no other choice but to get one of the administrators involved to dissuade you from continuing"-Wow. I'm actually absolutely terrified. Call up an administrator. Go ahead. Let's see who they agree with. And i already have a problem. Your approach to debates. You can't just go around threatening people who don't agree with you. That's not how life works buddy.--Morningstar123

ChocolateElemental/Morningstar123

Should I give you both few weeks timeout since neither of you is really behaving that well? Both of you are shouting and insulting each other while complaining when the other one does the same thing.

And please keep it civil when you answer to this, it's been one of those days... --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:24, September 3, 2019 (UTC)

You proved me right with that last post.

Personally I think you both take things way too personally and seriously, but telling people to take a bit of distance on this site seems to just make them more aggressive and confrontational. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:51, September 3, 2019 (UTC)

Even if M started this, you're over-reacting... tho it must be said that he isn't making things easier. --Kuopiofi (talk) 17:05, September 3, 2019 (UTC)

I admire your retarded determination

"My approach to debates in threatening certain people that disagree with my actions is NOT how I even work."-Is that a fact. Because if memory serves me right the 2nd post you sent me goes against this statement: Jesus Christ is a godly incarnation of God himself, nothing more. Please read the rules before getting riled up for simply reversing one of your edits."4. No religious debates. If anyone breaks this rule they will be blocked for 24 hours."

" But the flaw to your logic, is that we don't even know for sure which doctrine that Jesus has appeared in is more faithful to either of those doctrines."-First of all, i wrote 'christianity' for a reason. Second, if you can send one link STATING that Jesus is not human. go ahead. I'm waiting.

", so please stop painting me as the villain and stop aggravating the situation to an unfathomable margin."-My boi, should i remind you that you're the one who brought up admins and stuff? How am i the one aggravating the situation?--Morningstar123

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Again, I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I never said Jesus was not a user of godly incarnation. I said that he is a human WITH godly incarnation. Also, from the same site you sent:

https://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.verses/ID/158/Jesus-Christs-Humanity-verses.htm

I'm giving you a plethora of info to work with. Make sure my efforts aren't wasted and actually do some proper research:

https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrC3CJc2W5d_ToA5xUPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTBzMDYyanZhBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNxcnc-?type=ds_20_476&hspart=aztec&hsimp=yhs-default¶m1=sid%3D476%3Aaid%3D20%3Aver%3D0%3Atm%3D2086%3Asrc%3Dds%3Alng%3Den%3Aitype%3De%3Auip%3D702000257%3Aup%3Dd2FzIGplc3VzIGEgdW1hbg%253D%253D&fr=yhs-aztec-default&ei=UTF-8&p=was+jesus+a+human&fr2=12642 --Morningstar123

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Yeah, Ok.--Morningstar123

Lovecraftian Ghouls

Do you have any information even if simple about ghouls in Cthulhu Mythos

AZS (talk) 13:08, September 7, 2019 (UTC)

more specific?, by the way if you have any Information please help me with edits or at least tell me

AZS (talk) 15:40, September 7, 2019 (UTC)

Your comment posting problem

The Session Hijacking message happens to everyone occasionally.

It usually occurs when you try writing a comment but then decide to leave the page before posting it, or when its in the process of posting.

You can fix it by making an edit to the page, as that will automatically clear the hijacking message and let you comment again.

Its not to much of a problem, as it will always eventually clear itself after a day or two (if you don't wish to edit the page to clear it).

Hope that helps.SageM (talk) 20:29, September 9, 2019 (UTC)SageM

You can also get around the Session Hijacking and still comment on the page by posting using an Incognito browser (this is easiest with Chrome), as the page will register the comment with no problem that way.

Even if you have to login to post, it will still complete the post as if the message never happened.SageM (talk) 20:50, September 9, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Please don't post advertising of other site to pages. If you are interested, I can add link to it on the front-page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:08, September 11, 2019 (UTC)

It's there, but without a site-icon it's bit hard to notice. When the site gets one, post it to me. --Kuopiofi (talk) 18:16, September 11, 2019 (UTC)

Good point. I'd say it's close but not quite there. Certainly Association, so I added it there. --Kuopiofi (talk) 14:41, September 14, 2019 (UTC)

I think that falls under the general rule of opposing powers: "When you have two opposing powers that are on same level, which one is dominant doesn't depend on the powers: ultimately it depends on the Users' relative power-level, experience and who hits first in roughly that order." --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:12, September 15, 2019 (UTC)

Mage/Homo Magi

I don't care if I blocked temporarily or permanently

because the bureaucrat himself confuse me with blocked member

but I won't going to blocked because I already take the permission of kuopiofi himself/herself

because homo magi term against rule 11

Ooo366 (talk) 00:36, September 17, 2019 (UTC)

Ooo366 is blocked from answering. --Kuopiofi (talk) 16:17, September 17, 2019 (UTC)

Wouldn’t Powers like:

Absolute Immortality: From the tree of life

Absolute Beauty: Made in the Image Of God

Intelligence Enhancement: Grow smarter over time

Absolute Strength, Speed, Etc: Self-Explanitory

Supernatural Fruit Empowerment: The forbidden fruit.

Fertility Embodiment: Need to make those kids somehow.

Male/Female aspect manifestation: The first.

Divine empowerment: Made in God’s image.

Divine Contact: God literally walked among them.

Planetary Empowerment; Humans were Said to use, and be caretakers of the earth.

Self-Sustenance;In the book of Eden Adam, and Eve didn’t need to go to the bathroom until after the fall.

Be listed for the primordial Human Physiology

M

Artists license ultimately. Look at what human characters can do in quite a few media and compare it to the human norm.

Basically they say "oh, he/she is perfectly normal human" and then allow them to do things that go well beyond what human physique allow. In this case, it's about the brain. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:29, September 21, 2019 (UTC)

I don't see why not. But I'd advice adding the reasoning to Comments and prepare to defend your point. Just in case. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:22, October 3, 2019 (UTC)

No.

It was a message posted by Alissa. I don't know what the new rules or changes will be.SageM (talk) 18:32, October 20, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Sorry for the late reply. I was extremely sick for the past week and am only now starting to recover. Anyway, the plan is actually something we're currently figuring out as a group. The notif wasn't a hard ban on page creation, more a deterrent so too many pages weren't made between now and when the changes are implemented. I don't want a bunch of users going out, making a page, then coming back to see it merged with something else or just deleted because of changes that were implemented the next day. Pages can still be made, I just encourage editing pages already present for the time being. As for the details, once the administration figures everything out, we'll be presenting them to the public for further compromise so that everyone is happy with what happens. Changes are happening, we just want them to be something everyone can get behind. Alissa the Wise Wolf (talk) 05:23, October 21, 2019 (UTC)

It was already commented on before to stop messing with Ultimate Erasure by one of the admins.

So you aren't allowed to change it, as it was already agreed to be an omnipotent level power, as it counts as the most focused form of nonexistence.

So its an omnipotent power, not nigh omnipotent.

Flawless restoration has absolutely nothing to do with nigh omnipotence, its just variation of restoration.

The edits you made were incorrect and inaccurate as they having nothing to do with nigh omnipotence and do not belong on the page.SageM (talk) 19:08, October 28, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Also admins don't have to say anything when undoing edits.

If we feel that a edit is an inaccurate we simply undo it or rollback, so there is no reason to leave a comment or opinion for our reason.

Its our job after all.SageM (talk) 19:10, October 28, 2019 (UTC)SageM

SCP foundation is not fanon.

Its an actual officially licensed and published series.

It even has its own video game.SageM (talk) 22:45, October 30, 2019 (UTC)SageM

ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS!?

Hi!

Firstly, I would like to point out that I had asked, more than asked in fact, discussing it among admins and mods on the SPW discord, and they're all in agreement.

"Because Eyelessness doesn't sound like a power, doesn't mean it's true. Eyelessness is an ability because it can give the user immunity to having their new vision destroyed in the simultaneous event of them having better vision, especially having immunity to things that induce blindness in people."

You do understand what you just said, right? You're saying that because someone is missing a body part, it's classed as a superpower because it provides very, very, circumstantial benefits that stop that missing body part being manipulated? You're basically saying that if I cut off someone's arms and legs I gave them a superpower now, because they're immune to having their arms and legs manipulated or pulled off? We didn't delete it because it "didn't sound like" a superpower we did it because it isn't​​​​​​​ one.

​​​​I'll reiterate the reason for the decision. Missing a body part provides circumstantial benefits, at best, against powers that would need that body part to be there in the first place to function, but this does not make it a superpower in of itself. It's a limitation of those superpowers that would be affected by it.

Holokami (talk) 01:25, November 2, 2019 (UTC)

Kuo's word is null. He doesn't exist anymore. What he approved is not what we approve of. If you have a problem with that, you can take it up with me.

Alissa the Wise Wolf (talk) 01:50, November 2, 2019 (UTC)

The Eyelessness page made no mention of this "magical special vision". I read it over to make sure there was nothing there before deletion. The page NEVER came across or mentioned that it was the power to see without occular faculties, it was described, in the very first line of the power too, as not being able to have your eyes destroyed or vision messed with because you don't have eyes.

That bit about it "increasing the power of other senses ten fold" is obviously a verse mechanic or fanfic effect, because it's too specific to be classed as a mechanic, and has nothing to do with literally just not having eyes.

I honestly believe you're overblowing exactly what is going on here. We're not culling half the wikia, only the very, very, very bottom line powers that are questionably powers to begin with, and be assured we are looking at exactly what each power does and potential reworks before we consider deletion.

Also, if you think threatening me, Alissa, or the wikia about this is going to reverse the decision to cut the few pages that literally aren't powers from the wikia you're wrong (and no, circumstantial benefits from a disability are not powers but limitations of other powers). If you come up with a good and reasonable argument as to why not having eyes is a superpower, or even a potential remake to get whatever the idea was the original page failed to get across is, let us know. But as it stands, it was deleted because the act of being physically disabled in some way is not a superpower in of itself, even if it gives you situational protections as a byproduct.

Also also, this information is known and available already to the wikia, it was publically released in the form of two blogs on the matter, and everyone on the spw discord knows.

Holokami (talk) 14:33, November 2, 2019 (UTC)

Using a verse-specific example of something is proving my point more then anything. That special vision is not a result of just having no eyes, but rather another power entirely to get AROUND the the fact that species lacks vision, or because of how it had evolved in its environment. Lacking eyes IN OF ITSELF DOES NOT give you powers, I mean, or why can't blind person irl still see through this special vision and have highly augmented senses otherwise?

As I keep saying. Hacking someone's arms off and saying they have a superpower now because nobody can manipulate their arms is NOT a superpower. It's a circumstantial benefit to a disability.

Explain this as well. How, mechanically, does lacking eyes immediately and on its own, by simply lacking eyes and nothing else, augment your other senses, and give you this special vison? Because you haven't explained how that functional works yet.

And to press the point on over-specificness, it is a negative thing. Over-specificness comes from the mechanics of each verse and story that implements a power, and gives them their own unique twist, not from the power itself. So if a power has some weird additinal funtion, like augmenting other senses by mere lack of having one sense, that is an over-specific.

Holokami (talk) 15:56, November 2, 2019 (UTC)

The decision to delete things that aren't actual "powers" was reached after weeks of internal debate. We've basically decided this site will only host "power" powers. Not natural disabilities/abilities that give you a generic, natural advantage. They're called "super" powers for that reason. Because they are "super" natural. Alissa the Wise Wolf (talk) 21:04, November 2, 2019 (UTC)

Hi!

While how Eyelessness existed before was debatatable to us, if you want to reframe it as "Eyeless Vision", being able to percieve visually without ocular faculties, (see without eyes, but fancy wording XD), and stress that significantly over "immune to eye destruction" (as that is certainly the byproduct not main function here), then it certainly becomes a power. ^^

Holokami (talk) 21:55, November 2, 2019 (UTC)

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