(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ Cutest face text ever ^ ^
Thanks :D I know you have supported such a role for me for some time now. I heavily appreciate it!
For the next 30 days trial I'll do my best. Thanks again.
Alrighty then, I shall keep those tips in mind. Wish me and Nat luck as it's our first time ;) and have a fun second trial in the meantime too.
Nighty night onii-chan sleep well :D Imouto 14:58, January 7, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Nice! It'll be fun working with you.
I absolutely agree that it shouldn't replace the main, traditional chat. Ever. If we get this chat started, we will indeed be requiring more moderators alongside ourselves, which is also something else you mentioned in your message. With these mixed feelings I think a trial run is in order, im joining the chat tomorrow so I will probably get a link from Pheonix (Nat's recommendation) to view it myself.
Okay, sounds good, when do we join?
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ Your edit to the chat's code went through and I think that it might work :P
See you tonight Imouto 14:10, January 10, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Thank chuu and good nighty onii-chan Imouto 13:03, January 11, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
See you tonight っゝω・)っ Imouto 20:18, January 11, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Can you deal with this user next time they ignore the rules?
Hi DYAD, can you block the user Nilton123 next time he ignores the rules and either removes users or posts user in something other then english? Kuo has been letting him slide and he ignores any comments on his talk page to stop, and its really starting to get annoying as he apparently has no intention of stopping what he is doing.
Since he been doing this constantly I figure a long block might be in order until he is ready to listen or agrees to follows the rules.
Here are links of him posting users in spanish rather then english and of him removing users-
He ignored the warning you and posted in another language again.
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ See you after work Imouto 21:38, January 23, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
poi poi okie dokie :D Imouto 22:09, January 23, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Hey DYBAD, I'm creating a new character and I was wondering if I could feature your characters in his story
Coming to you for a second opinion
I talked with Kuo about a power I had in mind, but he said that it was too specific.
I ask because it seems weird that this power, which is unusual, would be considered "too specific," when there re plenty of powers with only one user.
If you still think no, or that it's not your call, or something else, you can let me know. I just thought it would be a cool idea to explore, given other forms of Undead that are being added.
Victor Genesis vs Salent (http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Cursed_warrior_343/Salent) Im not saying my character could beat yours i just want to know who would win in the situation on strategic termsCursed warrior 343 (talk) 21:52, February 4, 2017 (UTC)
see you soon Imouto 23:03, February 5, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ see you then Imouto 23:45, February 5, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ Have a great day onii-chan :D
PLease take care and have fun Imouto 00:55, February 9, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Take care and sleep well
Sorry I wasn't available that much tonight little sister just demanded my attention that's all :D Imouto 03:27, February 9, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ see you soon Imouto 22:07, February 12, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Hey, I just saw the message you left on Acheron's page over on FC/OC Vs Battles, and wanted to thank you for the feedback. ^^ The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 00:35, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
Good night onii-chan :D Imouto 14:45, February 14, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
see you soon Imouto 21:00, February 14, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
See you soon o/ Imouto 01:17, February 16, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
You on still? Imouto 06:07, February 17, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Hello DYBAD,tell me if there is a being without known definition and classification that means he can be absolutely anything he want's to be? and if so,is that mean he can be omnipotent?Idan647 (talk) 16:11, February 18, 2017 (UTC)
(づ｡ ｡)づ nini onii-chan
Sorry for leaving without saying anything, but you know how Marisa is. ^ ^;
Please take care and see you tommorow
Imouto 05:10, February 20, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
(づ｡｡)づ good night see you once you wake up onii-chan Imouto 12:38, March 4, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
(づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ see you later onii-chan Imouto 22:16, March 6, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Sorry for leaving last night onii-chan I fell asleep ^ ^; but i am on right now if you want to talk with me. Imouto 10:53, March 13, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Hey DYBAD I got a question,
So I made my first power ever (Yay!) but for some reason there is no picture or anything that shows up in the Categories when I select it, It shows up as a bunch of text for the thumbnails when you select them so I was curious if you know how to fix it.
Here is the page Card Magic
Alright thanks for the help ^^ I think I'll wait a day or two then if it doesn't fix itself I'll probably change the image, if that doesn't work in the end then I'll send a Bug Report, Thanks though :^) CrabHermit (talk) 01:49, March 17, 2017 (UTC)
Go get a great night's rest onii-chan :D Imouto 13:30, March 23, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Good nighty onii-chan :D Imouto 13:16, March 27, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Say, I just got this power approved by Kuo, called Opportunity Detection, the ability to detect opportunities in any situation. You wouldn't happen to have anything against the power being made, would you? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:40, March 31, 2017 (UTC)
I see. Guess I should think about it, then.
Ey, DYBAD! I was working on Acheron, revamping him so-to-speak, and was wondering what you thought in terms of a little creative feedback/criticism. ^ ^ --The Golden Lion of God (Hear the Lion Roar!) 05:02, April 10, 2017 (UTC)
Good nighty onii-chan
Join which chat and why?
We'll talk about it when you wake up. Sleep well (づ｡｡)づ
Imouto 11:52, April 15, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
See you tonight っゝω・)っ
--Imouto 11:39, April 18, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan (Talk)
っゝω・)っ I most certainly remember to comment for comments from now on. Imouto 21:30, April 20, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Its just going to get change back anyway...
Its just going to be changed back as soon as Kuo comes back on, so there really is no point in arguing about it.
Sleep well and see you tonight onii-chan :D Imouto 15:27, May 8, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
mostly, yeah. I generally lost interest in this site.
Grant.walker (talk) 23:54, May 8, 2017 (UTC)
hey, dybad hows it been? also, what's happened with the site? just wondering about it since I haven't been back since a long time.
Sorry for falling asleep on you
Sleep well and see you tonight
Imouto 05:26, May 9, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
っゝω・)っ Sleep Well Onii-chan
Sleep well and see you tonight :D Imouto 12:51, May 9, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
What just happened
Hello i was wanting to ask if you could help me with my wikia page and expanding it .
It seems the PM works even when we are not online together, ignore my last message XD everything works fine.
Couldn't agree more! So many cool features and stuff right?
Good night onii-chan
Nini DYBAD-onii-chan sleep well Imouto 11:10, June 2, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
- What is the purpose of this wiki?
- What exactly qualifies as a legitimate power?
Before you ask, yes, I am well aware of and have read the Rules of This Wiki... I would just like to hear it from the "horse's mouths" so to speak (i.e. from users who are tasked with overseeing the wiki).
Thanks in advance for answering.
I just wanted to ask if it's possible to change every page with omniverse (omniverse creation, omniverse destraction, omniverse manipulation, ect) to megaverse.
there is not even one character who posses those abilitys in all fiction, and the pictures which are put in there doesn't feat in.
on the other hand, they do feat for megaverse.
What is a Megaverse
"Multiverse, or megaverse, any hypothetical set of multiple universes described in physical cosmology and other disciplines."
Imouto 21:05, June 20, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
Exactly! They are the same thing, but one sounds so much bigger than the other. Imouto 21:33, June 20, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
No need to change something that isn't broken or outdated yet.
Imouto 21:44, June 20, 2017 (UTC)Imouto-tan
I just found out who you banned yesterday and you have got my full backing and support on the matter, should you need it! ;)
Totally agreed! We can't sit back forever saying one more chance, we have our staff positions to keep order and that is what we will do.
Have a nice day/night
thank you for changing metapotence description.
it didn't made a lot of sense why pataphysics manipulation would be the lesser form of metapotence.
This decision is counter-productive to the wikia....
Except that you don't get to make that kind of decision without Kuo's approval, as it goes against the very nature of the wikia and is actually counter-productive in the long run.
Also the rules clearly state that your not allowed to make anymore new categories, not even this new one. Even if you made an agreement with Imouto, it doesn't matter since Kuo clearly stated there are to be no more new categories.
So your new category is very likely to be deleted, and you will probably get a warning not to do so again.
And you are also breaking one of the wikia rules, as you are deleting powers based on your own opinion. Which is basically the same as changing a power based on your own opinion.
This is actually one of the reasons why Kuo didn't want more admins, as eventually things like this would happen.
I understand your idea, but its probably not going to happen. Especially since most of these new pages were made with the approval of the Gabe and Kuo. And they have final say on all matters on here after all.SageM (talk) 23:10, July 11, 2017 (UTC)SageM
The New Category; Insufficiently Contributive
What even is the new category for?
I personally don't think "too-specific" powers are that bad, a lot of characters have pointlessly specific powers, same goes for "sub-sub-powers" as they are like techniques to those sub-powers.
If you could define it, what kinds of powers currently on the wikia would be added to this category?
Personally I think that just adding the powers you think aren't worth holding to candidates for deletion and agreeing to talk over which ones should go would have done the same thing. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:19, July 12, 2017 (UTC)
I have said my peace....
You do realize that your only excuse about what powers can stay and which can't is what contributes to this wikia.
Thats not a good enough reason for powers to be deleted. And the main reason why you deleted some of those powers was just because they weren't good enough variations or sub-powers to stay.
Thats not how things work here. If the powers are approved by the admins, and they aren't considered to be too specific or single verse only and they have enough valid users to warrant them, then there is no reason for there deletion.
And yes DYBAD, you are basing this on yours and imouto's opinions only. Nobody else seems to think they shouldn't have a reason to exist.
Take breath manipulation for example. You say its not a valid power just because it shouldn't be possible, well over half the powers on this wikia aren't possible and yet there still here. And Breath Powers and Breath manipulation are entirely different powers. One is just a list of breath attacks, while the other is actually about controlling and manipulating ones or anothers breath. Can breath powers control another persons breath? No it cannot, as its limited to the user only.
There was no reason for it to be deleted other then, "This power shouldn't actually exist and isn't valid, even if there are actual valid and proven users for it, so lets just delete it."
That was the only reason for it to be deleted, and it was because someone didn't agree with it. Which again is against the rules set out for all users to follow, including admins.
I hate to say this, but this isn't how the wikia is supposed to work, its supposed to encourage creativity and inspiration, but what your suggesting is turn it into a wikia that makes the admins have final say on all choices, giving the regular users no choices and giving the admins full authority on all powers past, present and future.
I am afraid that you have pretty much perverted your authority as an admin at this point as your going against the very nature of how this wikia works and why it was created.
Powers that have been on here for years should not be so casually deleted, especially if they have been made by admins or given approval by all users and they have enough users to warrant their continued existence.
If you plan to go ahead with this decision I suggest you truly think about what your doing and actually think twice before making mass deletions, as otherwise you will have to delete powers that have actually contributed to this wikia as well.
Also there is one very important thing you forgot to take into account with your decision to do this plan-
A lot of these older powers actually inspire the creation of new powers that actually contribute to this wikia, but if they don't know they exist then a lot of brand new amazing ideas will never get made.
Idea has some merit, as long as there's actually some conversation over the pages that are about to be deleted (place?), deleted pages links is removed from the other pages (Special:Whatlinkshere) and it'd be good idea to tell the page creator why the page was removed.
Why add them?
Sorry about the last post being so abrupt, I was in hurry so I didn't think much before posting.
Sounds quite reasonable definition and that alone would be very good way to define which powers to keep when they are posted. I think this should be posted somewhere to show what kind of powers aren't acceptable, but can't really think a place.
Do you have a place where you plan to discuss about which powers to keep/remove?
As I'm likely rushing all over, could you post the reasoning behind deciding to delete the page? Just to make sure I know what powers are gone as there's been several deletes by now I didn't know before running into red link. --Kuopiofi (talk) 11:51, July 12, 2017 (UTC)
Honestly, I wouldn't have a clue what to offer, now and in the future, and even though I've gain some interest, I'll probably not be on THAT much. or even on my PC in general as a matter of fact. Heck, I barely edit alone these days..
I added your list (with one addition) to comments of Page Creation and Details until you figure out the correct place for it. Way too useful to lose it somewhere. --Kuopiofi (talk) 12:15, July 12, 2017 (UTC)
Are you sure it wasn't me?
1st sentence: Okay, if you say so.
My New Powers
I did some work on the my Aether Bomb Generation and Nether Bomb Generation powers, adding some extra information about their effects and adding to the Applications section as well. I can appreciate the desire to cut down on excess powers, especially when there have been powers without users or proper formatting. In my experience, however, adding information concerning a power's effects have led to articles being trimmed. Information that could help to set a power apart from others has been eliminated, leading them to appearing like others. The new guidelines have their good points, but they can be a little confusing. Would you like there to be additional information when new articles are made to distinguish them from others? Kusarigama (talk) 02:30, July 13, 2017 (UTC)
Just to make something clear.
First off, Kuo said something about not talking to others on other people's pages.
Secondly, the reason I came up with three powers on Kuo's pages is that I know at least one of them is likely to be disapproved. I don't want to get no approvals on any of them, and I'd like to get at least one power approved so there is that.
Thirdly, even if they all got approved, I am now focused on working on one of them at a time, not all of them at once since the last time I frequently made powers...well, you know. Can you see where I am coming from? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:18, July 15, 2017 (UTC)
Joke's on you, I never said I was going to create a power everyday. Simon did not say that.
In case you didn't know, I did have intentions on slowing down here. Before I made those recent proposals, even. But what exactly did you mean when you said odds of validation will be higher? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:48, July 15, 2017 (UTC)
Paint Absorption - point.
hey DYBAD, do you know any users of Mud Generation and/or Mud Attacks?
The point I was trying to get across
You see what I was trying to say was that Omnikinesis and Omnipathy are equals right? like who'd win in a fight a Telepath or a Telekinetic?
Both are kinda equal opposites but we have a telepath power trying to 1-up telekinesis when you could have easily edited Omnipathy to do exactly what Metapathy is doing.
btw, Ultipotence isn't really related to Telekinesis, it's just Omnipotence with raw power but no smarts to go with it.
Here is the kind of ladder I see currently:
Telekinesis = Telepathy
Omnikinesis = Omnipathy
??? = Metapathy
Like, what is going to fill in those question marks or can we just remove Metapathy all-together.
Also I think Omnikinetic Force Manipulation should go too since we'd have to make a Omnipathic Force Manipulation to equal to it since we got Telepathic Force Manipulation.
Let me know your opinion on my talk page if you wanna talk more about it :D.
why does the power have to be Contibutive? i posted many powers and seen many powers and this issue hasn't became a problem until now.
isn't it all that matters that the power has a user and thats it?
We already have a power that counts a cosmic telepathy
Also the rules clearly state to add new names to Also Called rather then changing the name of the power.
Did you move all the users from the old-version of Omnipathy to the Telepathy page? also I think Cosmic Telepathy should be removed since we got Remote Telepathy. CrabHermit (talk) 03:48, July 16, 2017 (UTC)
Don't change the page names, seriously is it that hard to remember?
Seriously don't change the power names, its literally a rule. if you want to add omnipathy to the also called thats fine. But don't change the page name itself.
Remove Cosmic Telepathy
I think we just went back to square one with what I was trying to do.
Now Cosmic Telepathy sticks out like a sore thumb where as I wanted Omnipathy and Metapathy to be the same power and not to have a lesser or more powerful version to exist etc... We got Remote Telepathy as Cosmic Scale if you're looking for reference so could you add the Candidates for deletion category on that page or something? CrabHermit (talk) 03:55, July 16, 2017 (UTC)
You do realize that its going to changed back anyway, right?
You do realize that all your work is just going to be undone anyway, right? The rules are very clear about changing the page names. New names are supposed to go in the also called. As thats the entire point of them.
There is no reason to change the name as it can just be added to the also called.
Kuo has had the same argument over and over again with countless other users. And the same is going to happen with this page change as well.
My point is...
I get that but I mean we already have Remote Telepathy which it's also called is Cosmic Telepathy so a Cosmic Telepathy isn't needed and should just be marked for deletion.CrabHermit (talk) 03:59, July 16, 2017 (UTC)
We really don't need a middle ground tbh... like Telepathy is the low, middle and high ground and Omnipathy is like "screw your grounds I do what I want"... so I really can't say that Cosmic Telepathy (Not Remote Telepathy) can stay as a independent power...CrabHermit (talk) 04:03, July 16, 2017 (UTC)
Join the Chat
Join the Chat so we don't have to spam each others talk page on this topic.
When you make it
When you make the "Cosmic Telekinesis" or Nigh Omnikinesis, let me know because I might be able to help around here and there, you could meet with me again on the chat if you want to discuss when you're free. CrabHermit (talk) 06:55, July 16, 2017 (UTC)
For Hypercompetence, couldn't you cut off a large chunk of the the Talents section by just putting Enhanced Condtion instead of having a giant list of things, it should fit pretty well since you already got Supernatural Condtion in the associations.
DYBAD Can you please put back the paint absorption page.
DYBAD i know you mean well, but in my personal opinion. this Contributive thing doesn't matter, in the end what matters weather the power exist or not in fiction. this site is an encylopedia for powers, weather they are very contributive or not. whats the harm if its on the wiki?.
i can see your point of view, but still. a power is just a power. no matter its purpose or usefullness. i understand we can't have stupid powers like. self-blindness inducment and 1 second super strength. However This wiki is all about recording powers of all kind that has existed in ficition. there are many powers that i would love too kick off the wiki, but even if i had the choice of doing so i wouldn't do it because: 1. it's shows a great vairty in powers, 2. it meets all of the requirements Especially with there "there has to be a user" rule.
now that i think of it. Im pretty sure you're the only one putting this "Contributive Rule" in effect, also there are many powers here that are very Uncontributive, i doubt you can correct them all. besides whats wrong with having so many powers on the wiki?
also, what comes after this late stage? what happens next? Who's going to take over? What powers are going to stay and go?
Another thing, sorry if i came off harsh. No Offense
alright final stage, can you describe more what happens in this final stage? and what happens after that? this new rule chanfe will change this wiki for the better or for the worse.
That does sound good on paper, but i don't know if it will work on practice. We Have over 8000 powers on this wiki, how the hell are you going to check them all?. The main thing im worried about this ruleis that it will decrease motivation for this wiki. Im mean creating powers willy nilly and all of a sudden we get a huge rule slapped on us? i just fear this rule will become extremely umpopular.
alright, it just that this rule feels so akward to me, I'm a little bit skeptical of it.
I thought that was removing them? Must have skipped that part...
There are marked differences between environmental areas, both in scientific (animals, area, etc) and symbolic/conceptual level. If CS did his research on the page I provided the latter should be on the page. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:38, July 17, 2017 (UTC)
If you want to talk about the usefulness of power, please don't do it on my page... -_-; Just tell you're talking about it and tell what you think afterwards. --Kuopiofi (talk) 04:44, July 17, 2017 (UTC)
You mean "There are marked differences between environmental areas, both in scientific (animals, area, etc) and symbolic/conceptual level. If CS did his research on the page I provided the latter should be on the page."?
Considering I don't remember agreeing that...
Anyway, that Purity Manipulation CS proposed?
I cleared things on Lordship category but people don't bother reading what the categories actually mean before adding them.
It was on grass and the soil was turned over last spring so it was pretty soft, but little to left would have meant falling on rock shoulder first.
Say, DYBAD, did you ever get back to Kuo about the Purity Manipulation page I asked him about?
Also, how are these?
Rigidity Inducement: The ability to induce full rigidity, leaving a person or object with no flexibility or elasticity.
Motionless Movement: The ability to move one's body locomotively without moving their body parts or moving a single muscle.
Force Inversion: The ability to make it so a push becomes a pull and a pull becomes a push, causing pushes to attract things instead of repelling them and vice versa. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:59, July 18, 2017 (UTC)
Not to mention, Rigidity Inducement has been approved before, before the whole rule change thing, and it would be an opposite of Rigidity Removal.
Okay, how about this one, Long Stride? You heard of the Seven League Boots in fiction, right? Well, this power does the same effect, which is covering many or several miles in one step. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:22, July 18, 2017 (UTC)
When you come right to it, paint is no more unlikely matter for constructs than water, ink, or gas/air.
I know how to make this work.
Thats why I said I would keep it too only things that could truly be defined in terms of a network.
Also some networks do have a tangible physical existence, such as the human's bodys network of biological systems that keep you alive, or if you want a somewhat broader term, a network of caverns in a cave system is a physical tangible example of a network(though I am not going to be adding something like that to the power, I plan to keep neatly and accurately defined so that it can be its own actual power.)
Besides a few powers on here already are examples of networks anyway- such as media manipulation, internet manipulation, event manipulation, data manipulation, biological manipulation, relationship manipulation, and etc.
So there is a basis for this to be its own unique and separate power.
I admit that paint and ink do get close enough that deleting PC wouldn't complicate things.
It does make it kind of difficult to come up with new power ideas if I am automatically shot down before I even get to try, besides there are so many new and upcoming power ideas out there that can't be so easily defined and yet they automatically get a pass to be on here.
Not every power can be perfectly defined or explained, sure we try the best we can but were only human... not omnscient gods who are the literal fonts of creativity.
If every power had to be perfectly explained and defined as what you seem to be asking for these days, then this wikia would be a lot more empty then it is now, in fact I would say over half the powers on here would be deleted if thats what your trying to get.
I am not asking you to change, I am just saying there is some room for compromise.
Not every power is going to be totally perfect for the wikia at first, but as newer ideas come along they will end up having a place on here. On that much I am sure we can agree.SageM (talk) 05:30, July 21, 2017 (UTC)SageM
G-TBC (boy what a name...) got to agree with you, so lets keep it.
Only making powers based on Useful or Special descriptions actually leaves out a lot of usage from a majority of the categories.
Besides there are some powers on here that aren't useful or special, they just are. Which is why we have the Silly Powers category. though I am not saying we should keep making more powers that fit into that category, I am simply saying that not every power out there is going to fit nicely into either of those two definitions of what a power should be.
Sometimes your going to have make exceptions to new powers. Also, variations are good for powers and not all of them are going to be copycat variations. Some are going to be unique in there own right but if you shoot down every power variation idea that comes out because its not special or useful enough its going to make it difficult in the long run to decide what actually fits here or not.
In fact from the new anime thats been released this season, a lot of new powers aren't going to fit into either mold of useful or special, but they are unique and they may have other uses in the future.
The ultimate example of this would have to be JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, as over 90 percent of the powers on that series are a complete joke, but they still manage to have a lot of possible uses.
Defining what powers should be on here or not, is going to become slightly more difficult in the future, as not everything can be so clear as to what fits and what doesn't.
"Geo-Thermokinetic" to "Magma" - I'm not even trying to check all links... And thanks, good job.
Got to agree with you about the copy-paste: tho that was originally created to cover as many options/things as possible (and still works well on that), way too many people have just added the relevant elements/thing and left it to that. At least bit more relevant info about what the power does would be nice. --Kuopiofi (talk) 05:36, July 23, 2017 (UTC)
Somewhat common misconception: creation/generation does literally just that. There's no control/shaping aside, at best, the direction and/or amount/intensity, which is why they have blast and aura on Applications: point and let go or just spread the generated matter/energy to all directions. If you're limited to low level of production you're out of luck.
Attacks on the hand need varying amounts of control to get the effect you want: blast is the low end effect, Entity Creation for example is on the top when it comes to needed finesse. --Kuopiofi (talk) 06:23, July 24, 2017 (UTC)
Generation/Manipulation is the closest thing as, aside the least defined/controlled attacks, they need to be shaped/controlled, some to very high decree indeed.
Tho as it says in Attack Limitations, some Users can't create the matter/energy and have to shape existing ones.
RS and RF do get close at some areas, but there are differences. Aside of RS having broader applications, the difference is that surfings are about riding on the matter/energy and using it to affect the movement, flying means being in the matter/energy.
what are you even talking about
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