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So the power doesn't make any sense from a logical stand point, as its self contradictory otherwise.[[User:SageM|SageM]] ([[User talk:SageM|talk]]) 01:23, December 7, 2019 (UTC)SageM
 
So the power doesn't make any sense from a logical stand point, as its self contradictory otherwise.[[User:SageM|SageM]] ([[User talk:SageM|talk]]) 01:23, December 7, 2019 (UTC)SageM
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First, I don't see why something needs an origin to be manipulated, and I was not thinking of the eternity as in being unchanged.
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And I am not having the power manipulate eternity itself, just things that always happen, or will continue to happen, and that doesn't include god or anything of the like, just things happening, like motion or arguments. [[User:CrystalStorm51|CrystalStorm51]] ([[User talk:CrystalStorm51|talk]]) 01:33, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

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The problem with the announcement, is that you can't actually stop users from making new pages.

Its a necessary function of this wikia, so telling them they can't make pages until god only knows when goes against what the wikia stands for.

We don't know how long it will take for the staff to reach a decision on this matter (or even if they will), so preventing users from contributing to the wikia is actually causing more harm then good.

Its better just to let he users make new pages for the time being and just decide afterward about whether or not to remove them.

Because you can't actually stop them without blocking every user that makes a new page.

So the announcement is pretty unreasonable as it defeats the purpose of the wikia for the time being.

I suggest just removing the announcement, as its not actually going to work like Alissa believes.

Just let users make pages and work out the other details after the voting or discussion is done.

Even the admins can only do so much, and policing every single user goes against the definition of our duties.

Its like the episode of the Simpsons were Marge makes a law that allows the police to arrest whoever they want.SageM (talk) 19:03, October 14, 2019 (UTC)SageM

AF

No worries, delete it if its necessary, to be honest, I didn't formally requested to create the power; I (or any other more suitable user) can recreate the profile once the current changes are performed and concluded, I have no hurry.

And congratulation for your promotion, and as for having a question, not at the time, but I asked you one little time ago (most be in your talk page), but I'm not in hurry neither, you can finish any work that you have at the time.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 19:11, October 14, 2019 (UTC)

The problem I see now is that we have no idea how long it will take for the staff to decide on the changes to the wikia.

If it takes weeks to reach a decision, then the announcement really does need to be removed and the staff needs to allow users to add to the wikia.

And based on how things stand now, a lot of long time users are pretty much going to say no to these changes and ask for their pages to be restored if there deleted.

If this gets too out of hand and the changes are to big, then we may have to ask the community to step in to deal with the mess.

And there is also the possibility that the staff may never reach an actual decision concerning this matter and the bureaucrats just decide to go ahead with the changes anyway.

So at times like this, its probably better that community itself is involved. As otherwise it will end up blowing up in our faces.SageM (talk) 19:22, October 14, 2019 (UTC)SageM 

AF

Hey there, I have a doubt about organizing users by alphabetic order: when the verse start by the word "the" (or similar), it its considered to start be the letter t or by the next word? SageM (indirectly) told me that its considered mute, but I've see powers where the t its considered at the moment to organize at alphabetic order; so naturally I'm confused.

And as an additional question, what do you think of Sawdust Manipulation? Pretty straight forward, the ability to control wood particles. I known that we can't create powers at the time being, but just to have it in mind.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 17:32, October 15, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Basically, C'iel and Gaira are beings that comes aren't native from any particular reality, they are beings beyond of what we consider demon or god, and despite embody the concepts and principles of good and evil, those terms aren't suitable to them; that's cuz, in order to interact with reality, they fused their essence with those principles. I believe they could fall under Morality Transcendence and maybe Cosmic Otherness, but I useally ask an admin before touching these pages.

About the event, it wasn't that much info, few possibilities like erasing their creators (this one was confirmed true time ago) and primordial concept prior to creation. There's also word of god that they are called conceptual weapons with personality, but since the source its in spanish I rather avoid it for now.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 19:26, October 15, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Hey there. I would like to known what do you think of the following powers suggestions if its not a bother: a) Rash Inducement, the power to induce... welp, a rash; b) Allegy Inducement, the power to induce and create an allergy to someone; and c) Weapon Borrowing, the power use the properties and powers of a weapon without the need to use/handle it.

By the way, when do you think we could be able to create new pages normally?

-- Antoniofer (talk) 20:11, October 16, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Thanks, I was a bit hasty and created the powers Sawdust Manipulation and Allergy Inducement; I see other people creating powers without some kind a warning or issue, so I assumed that the current changes were kinda reduced, so sorry if I caused a issue with creating them.

By the way, why this wki do not have the typical message wall as several others?

-- Antoniofer (talk) 18:53, October 18, 2019 (UTC)

Azs was a problematic user for the wiki in many ways, he was disobedient, when people told him to stop, he insisted on continuing with the same, harassing several staff members and discovered some more things that do not address his case.

In the case of Alisa, she plans to merge many pages, her excuse is that we have too many pages and she wants a more organized wiki.~~User talk:Arquetion

I have no idea how to block only temporarily.~~User talk:Arquetion

AF

Hey there Nekron. So, apparently Weapon Borrowing (or how I decided to call later, Weapon Imitation) was already covered by Weapon Physiology (although not sure at all), so it wasn't necessary at the end and was deleted.

But worry not, I have other idea, what do you think of Imperfection Embodiment, the power to embody all imperfections and flaws (self-explicatory), as opposed to Perfection Embodiment? And, in the case you're fine with it, do you think this description would fit in the power?

Thank you in advance.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 16:49, October 21, 2019 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. Yes, I generally wait for someone to post a better example for the page I create, in case that the only user(s) I got in mind is(are) pretty obscure.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 17:00, Octover 21, 2019 (UTC)

Source of deleted page

Hi Nekron2

Can you send me the source of Omni-Travel page. Since kuo is not around here anymore (he was the one who send me the source of deleted pages):

you can access the red link here:

https://powerlisting.fandom.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=Omni-Travel&year=&month=-1

DeuzExMachina (talk) 13:18, October 24, 2019 (UTC)

How do i create a new superpower?

I had a idea about a new superpower,but i don't really know how to go about it. Could you help/show me the steps to creating a new superpower please?

From,ThePirateKing777

I wanted to create a power called "Eternal Transcendence" its the power to be in an endless state of transcendence.even when the user transcends all limitations they are still able to keep their individuality and keep ascending Forever as it's in their nature to do so.

However, i wonder if this power is any different then Omni-Transscendence,whats you're opinion?

From,ThePirateKing777

Info Box

for editing the infobox, how do I add "Row 1 title",bgcolor,caption,and imagewidth. I've been trying to see if clicking "Add more information" would help but nothing is happening.

From,ThePirateKing777

AF

Hello once again, Nekron. I'm wondering, under what power do you think this description would fall? Kuo suggested me Nonexistence, but the power its pretty "common" to qualify as that, plus, not all its applications involve erasing.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 18:20, October 27, 2019 (UTC)

I see. Welp, there's no known users that absolute control over Nemesis, so guess no one qualify at the moment. Thank you.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 18:53, October 27, 2019 (UTC)

Classic editor problem

sorry if i'm getting annoying but I can't seem to get the classic rich-text editor to work. I changed my preferences to classic rich-text editor but it would change.

From,ThePirateKing777

i'm already using a acer laptop

From,ThePirateKing777

I understand it but I doubt that other people understand it.~~User talk:Arquetion

fair enough.

a week should suffice.SageM (talk) 18:45, October 28, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Name for a new power.(also thanks)

Hello, i just want to say thanks for your help with Eternal Transcendence. I'm thinking of making another new power but i don't know what to call it.

Its the power to embodie or have a connection with all imagination and possible and impossible ideas. An example in how a omnipotent being could at one time be a benevolent god and later be a malevolence god,then can a distant or unifying being. The user is everything you can think and not think of and is the very imagination of everything whether fictional or non fictional and all ideas were born from that unfathomable imagination that is this being.


From,ThePirateKing777

Condition Infinitum?

Should i make this power? So i can replace Absolute Condition in eternal transcendence? I doesn't make much sense for Absolute Condition to be a application for Eternal transcendence to me?

From,ThePirateKing777


You're a mod, have a look please:

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Demotivator Doyoufeeldemotivated ¿ Evil.gif 13:37, October 29, 2019 (UTC)


AF

Yoo Nekron, here with another idea: what do you think of Undead Creation? As the opposite of Life Creation, different from Reanimation that rises the corpses, this powers creates one completely anew (either from body parts, completely from nothing or any other method).

-- Antoniofer (talk) 21:46, October 29, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Techincally speaking, Necromancy its magic involving death-force and the undead, what I suggest, although can be performer by a necromancer, its not necessary involve magic and neither its Reanimation (the difference with Reanimation would be the same as Life Creation and Life Inducement).

-- Antoniofer (talk) 11:53, October 30, 2019 (UTC)

Delete a Message

Ok i understand what your saying, so how to i delete a message?

From, ThePirateKing777

Question on ET/Possible Existence Grounding Limitation

Can a user of Eternal Transcendence achieve Totality Connection? If not is it necessary to add Existence Grounding as a limitation or is that not neccessary due to the possibility a user of Eternal Transcendence is unreachable for the user of existence grounding to have a effect because ET user Transcends their reality level?

From, ThePirateKing777

Hey there, can I ask you about some power ideas, see if they are okay to you? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:41, October 31, 2019 (UTC)

Alright then, how are these?

Outer Space Maneuverability: The ability to maneuver or move well in outer space.

Inertial Frame Defiance: The ability to defy inertial frames. Sub-power of Inertial Frame Manipulation.

Vibration Defiance: The ability to defy vibrations and how they affect the user.

Force Contact: Like Energy Contact, only it uses physical forces to get around like gravity and magnetism by walking or otherwise moving on them.

Lagging: The opposite of Dashing, this is the ability to slow down for a short time before returning to normal speed.

Unipedalism: The ability to move on one leg or one foot. We have Quadrupedalism, so why not?

Perfect Rolling: Like Rolling Inducement, except the user can roll or spin effectively despite their shape.

Minimization: Basically the opposite of Maximization, and this power minimizes attributes, powers, etc.

Rule Compensation: The ability to compensate for rules, gaining new abilities and enhancing attributes to work with or go around them.

Planetary Dissociative Speed: Sub-power of Planetary Dissociation Travel, this allows the user to go faster or slower than the Earth's rotation.

Habitual Override: The ability to override one's own habits, and do things other than what the habit would have the user to do.

Multi-Purpose: The ability to have more than one purpose and make it so that the user can effectively have the means and abilities to fulfill those purposes.

Enhanced Stuntmanship: The ability to have enhanced skill in doing stunts and other dangerous things, like in the movies.

Death Defiance: The ability to defy death and the odds of death, making it so the user survives what should kill them.

Synonym Shuffling: The ability to shuffle synonyms, which works like Opposites Shuffling, except with synonyms.

Destruction Immunity: The ability to be immune to being destroyed.

Writing Generation: The ability to generate writing of any kind. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:00, October 31, 2019 (UTC)

For Death Defiance, we have had Negation and Defiance powers exist alongside each other before, like Inertia Defiance, Gravity Defiance and Gravity Negation, Inertia Negation. Plus, Negation is more about self and others while Defiance is more of a personal power. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:09, October 31, 2019 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:27, October 31, 2019 (UTC)

So Below, As Above only has Erasure.

It cannot effect anything other then books and stories. 

It has no effect on the outside world or reality. 

Erasing a story is not the same as True Nonexistence, which has no limitations (its the destructive form of Omnipotence after all)

the SCP cannot exist outside of books and thus cannot be said to have Nonexistence.

This has already been explained before, so please don't add it back. 

I have read the SCP and the discussion notes behind it, and it never had Nonexistence or Conclusion Dominance.SageM (talk) 05:22, November 4, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Your making it out to be more then it is, as it never says it effects anything other then print material.

No mention is made anywhere that it can effect anything outside of that, your making assumptions without the facts to back it up.

So no, where not going to add it to the page.

If it truly effect anything other then whats described on the page, then the page itself would be corrupted. 

The data lost thing at the end has nothing to do with the SCP.

If you actually knew about the SCP Foundation, adding data lost or information not found is common for all the SCPs on the site. Its not an indicator of the SCPs effects.SageM (talk) 05:36, November 4, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Just so you know, Alissa wants all admins to come onto Discord for a meeting. What time is good for you?  Please contact Alissa to tell her when you're available. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:36, November 7, 2019 (UTC)

Permission to create another New Power?

Can I create a new power called "Absolute Usurpation" in the future?

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:40, November 10, 2019 (UTC))

Say, Nekron, how are these?

Probable Time Manipulation: The ability to manipulate "sideways time", which is not forwards and backwards time, but time that can play out in many number of possible ways, whether it be possible pasts, presents or futures. The user can rewind, speed up, slow down, fast forward, etc. time into any possible future, past or present, other than the forward and backwards part of time.

Space Monster Manipulation: Like Sea Monster Manipulation, but with monsters from space.

Qualia Manipulation: The ability to manipulate qualia, which is information as perceived by life.

Criteria Manipulation: The ability to manipulate criteria, or a set of standards and rules, that are used for testing someone or gauges for judgement.

Foolproofness Inducement: The ability to induce foolproofness onto anything, making it so nothing can go wrong.

Dryness Inducement: The ability to induce dryness onto anything.

Type Advantage Combination: The ability have the advantages, and no disadvantages of a type of anything. For example, one could have the advantage of all three body types, like muscular, fat and slim.

Repairing Attacks: The ability to use attacks that fortify, strengthen and repair anything they hit.

Enhanced Rotation: The ability to have enhanced rotation abilities, like cartwheels and somersaults, only faster, stronger and better overall.

Planetary Dissociative Direction: Sub-power of Planetary Dissociation Travel, this allows one to change direction relative to the direction a planet is rotation in.

Small Surface Activity: The ability to move, act and attack effective on small surfaces, usually without falling off.

Fine Interaction: The ability to interact with things so small that they cannot be seen, such as atoms and bacteria.

Unfastened Interaction: The ability to interact with or move on objects with loose, unfastened parts without causing them to fall apart.

Elastic Activity: The ability to effectively move, act or attack on elastic objects like elastic ropes without causing them to move or even revert back to their normal shape.

Full Space Maneuvering: The ability to maneuver in full spaces, especially crowded, cluttered or packed ones.

Non-Contact Movement: The ability to move the body by causing the body parts, such as the head, torso, shoulders and hips to interact with a solid surface, even though they are not touching the soild surface, exerting forces on each other without touching each other as if they were touching anyway. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:40, November 15, 2019 (UTC)

Well, for Enhanced Rotation, we do have powers like Enhanced Mobility, whic coexist with powers like Hyper Motion and Accelerated Movement. I believe an Enhanced Rotation page can co exist with pages like Hyper Rotation and Accelerated Rotation. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:38, November 15, 2019 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 15:19, November 16, 2019 (UTC)

That's okay. Anyway, thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:31, November 16, 2019 (UTC)

By the way, I just thought of some new powers I plan to do at a much later time, if you don't mind.

Speed Immunity: The ability to be immune to anything faster than the user or anything moving at high speeds.

Personal Movement: The ability to personalize, or customize one's movement capabilities.

Fixed Duration, which allows one to travel at any distance with a fixed, unchanging duration or time.

Also, about a power called Destruction Immunity, which you disapproved before because you thought it was too similar to Immortality; well, Destruction Immunity would effectively prevent one from having their body destroyed, or mind destroyed, blown to pieces or even erased. The user would still be able to be killed by other means, like being stabbed in the heart or brain, or maybe even be partially destroyed only like the brain, or by disease, etc. as long as their body is still intact. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:03, November 16, 2019 (UTC)

Then how about this instead? Contortive Storage: The ability to store things like a TV or house and make them fit it any container such as pockets and boxes, no matter how small it is. We have Contortive Ingestion, which this is similar to. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:05, November 16, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:28, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry that I didn't get the message. I was not alerted somehow.

One more thing. About Destruction Immunity, since it is about more of being destroyed to the point where pieces, remnants and maybe dust remains, what if I named it something like Disintegration Immunity or Disassembly Immunity instead? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:47, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, that will be all for now. Thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:50, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Meta Regeneration

I found out recently that you've reversed my edit. Why was my additional edit undone? ChocolateElemental (talk) 16:12, November 20, 2019 (UTC)

And as for Healing Erasure? ChocolateElemental (talk) 16:33, November 20, 2019 (UTC)

Is the limitation "Could be a maddening experience" really not a good limitation? I would think it would be since the user is transcending forever. At one point the user could have control, then become "All Mighty",then stronger than that and it keeps happening, won't they drive themselves mad eventually with there forever increasing power? If not then the other limitation" Due to transcending various reality levels, the user will gain a dull sense of reality" i will have to remove.

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 16:48, November 20, 2019 (UTC))

Look, I'm not stupid, but the whole point of Meta Regeneration is that it cannot be removed through natural means. From what I remember, the capabilities information said that it cannot be removed. What I put into the capabilities is in no way a limitation, it's an additional sentence that explains what makes Meta Regeneration stand out. There's a difference between explaining limitations, and to explain what the differences are. It's obviously the latter. ChocolateElemental (talk) 17:07, November 20, 2019 (UTC)

If 3812 over came his mental illness than wouldn't another user do the same thing? If so then the first limitation would be obsolete, i think based on that it should be removed, what do you think? Should i still remove it?

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:20, November 20, 2019 (UTC))

Say, Nekron, how are these?

Unordered Magnitude: The ability to have the order of amount in anything be skipped, rearranged, etc, like when increasing electrical resistance, the user can skip even a large amount of numbers or have them rearranged to different orders. This can be effectively controlled mentally.

Undegraded Performance: The ability to always perform at one's best and never get stale or sloppy without even a need for practice. For example, making it so that the user can sing or act at an amazing level and not wear out or drop in quality as they continue.

Duration Reduction: The ability to reduce the duration it takes for one to do something.

Duration Augmentation: Like above, but makes duration longer instead.

Unfastening: The ability to unfasten, or loosen parts of an object, making it so they can easily fall apart.

Wetness Inducement: The ability to induce wetness onto anything, normally without the liquid, just the effect from the liquid. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 04:40, November 21, 2019 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:13, November 21, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Hello again, Nekron. Here with another ability suggestion: Intimidating Combat, the power to incorporate intimidation techniques with one combat abilities; technique of Intimidation Intuition, and variation of Combat Merging and Psychological Combat. What do you think?

-- Antoniofer (talk) 18:50, November 21, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Now I read through it again, it seems liek Intimidation Intuition already cover involving physical combat (few users use it in that way).

By the way, never commented about the suggestion of Undead Creation (remember, it do not reanimate a corpse, but rather creates ones a new). Also, got Executioner (a variation of Enhanced Assassination but less stealthy and more tracker/punisher), although is just an wild idea.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 15:04, November 22, 2019 (UTC)

Hey, Nekron, how are these?

Varied Matter Interaction: The ability to interact with matter or move on it even when it is constantly changing its properties and state such as shape, size, liquid, gaseous, etc. in many ways. whether it is doing so slowly or quickly.

Unpressurized Interaction: The ability to interact with any surface while supporting the weight or force of the body with a small surface area, like the tip of a finger.

Self-Particle Exertion: the ability to cause intermolecular or interatomic particles of the user to exert forces on the rest of the user's body, which can't happen in real life because they are internal forces.

Probability Augmentation: The ability to increase the probability of something.

Probability Reduction: Same as above, only this decreases chances of something happening.

Mixed Shapeshifting: The ability for the user to shapeshift other body parts to the point that the user looks like a mix between other beings and their respective parts.

Vacuum Vision: The ability to shoot vacuum beams from one's eyes.

Wholesomeness Generation: The ability to generate goodness, or wholesomeness for anything. Opposite to Taint Generation.

Identical Body Part Strength: The ability to have strength that is equal in all body parts, so no body part is stronger than all the others. Usually, in real life, body parts are not equal in strength, like the legs being stronger than the arms.

Disproportionate Torque: The ability to cause torque that creates a disproportionate amount of rotation.

Time Skipping Save: The ability to save one's progress in doing something in a future state rather than continuing from a saved point in the past. Future counterpart of Temporal Reload.

Power Division: The ability to divide one's power so that the possibilities it can do each become a separate power, like dividing each of the things Fire Manipulation can do into different, independent powers, making it harder for those with Power Replication to copy such powers completely.

Fusion Independence: The ability to use powers, skills, attributes, etc. of a fusion the user was part of as if they were still fused together, like if Goku from Dragon Ball had this power, he could fuse with Vegeta, unfuse and than use the abilities of the fusion entity he was part of. Just an example. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:43, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 06:40, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

Except.. It’s not. As I’ve said before, Mystic Lock still falls in under the same restriction as any other lock. It affects a larger group, that’s correct but it’s still not a variant of Omnilock, it’s still a lesser version. Meta Magic is like rule transcendence, it runs under the same rules as Spatial Transcendence which is beyond just meta space & spatial lock. Meta Magic runs under the same rules considering spatial transcendence was based off of it. Other Admins agree with the same thing; refer to Jess, and Kirie. Matter of fact, Mystic lock is actually within the applications of Meta Magic, just how spatiolock is under spatial transcendence. --Omuni (talk) 11:57, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

Yes, the opinion of the original page creator holds more weight.. When compared to regular users, not when compared to the word of admins and or the head admins. When 3 admins believe the same thing; then that’s a massive weight over just two. However, we can come to a general understanding. Meta Magic as seen on the wiki (given it predates almighty magic) is the makeup of almighty Magic’s capability. It could be seen as the rule Transcendence of Magic or its version of metapotence/ultipotence. As I’ve said, meta Magic even includes mystic lock within itself; it seems pretty obvious that some users were clearly misplaced within the user list of the power and or similar to other powers, only possess a lesser version. We could say so that we can come to a general agreement to place both as a ‘may be affected by meta Magic / may not be able to affect mystic lock’ sorta like how we have it for meta immunity bypassing and meta power immunity / Absolute Access and Omnilock? --Omuni (talk) 12:58, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

Except.. that’s not the case at all? I’ve upkept Meta Magic for ages now. It IS an omnipotent-like power in the same sense as Rule Transcendence. Magic ascendency by the way HAS almighty magic. It was also a power created that I disagreed with its existence because it was essentially just the power to ‘have’ almighty magic by ascending through magic. It is no way shape or form below Meta Magic either, considering Meta Magic can turn into that with time and experience thanks to their capability of overruling any limitations placed on magic. Final word on the matter - Meta Magic can affect Mystic Lock. --Omuni (talk) 18:02, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

I actually said meta Magic isn’t below magic ascendancy ^^; The whole point of MA (magic ascendancy) last time we admins debated its reason for not being deleted was that it was supposed to be the state of where ‘someone achieved almighty magic via ascending all limitations of magic thanks to meta magic’. But sure, the limitation you said works fine. Last bit, I wasn’t exactly comparing rule Transcendence to omnipotence— Not directly at least. You see, based off rule Transcendence they created metapotence; the aspect of omnipotence where one can do anything regardless of logic/rules/limitations. Based off as a higher/omnipotent version of rule Transcendence & logic manipulation. Meta Magic basically functions in the same way but specifically for magic. Same thing with meta science really. But like I said, your limitation adds up making Mystic Lock and meta Magic more like.. absolute access v Omnilock, which in a way they are. It also adds up with the fact Mystic Lock is under meta Magic’s applications ^^;. As for editing almighty magic from magic ascendency, I’d suggest probably debating the decision with the original page creator? Since that was one large arguement we wouldn’t want to stirr up again. I do agree with you that a LOT of powers are illogical in their applications, I actually wanted to create a revamp for the wiki on applications like these. --Omuni (talk) 19:15, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

Anytime! I’m always free to discuss the inner workings of powers and their scaling to others :p! --Omuni (talk) 20:27, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

Hey, Nekron, how is this?

Impulse Defiance: The ability to defy impulse, which is a change in momentum. It is  a concept in physics. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:04, November 27, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:11, November 27, 2019 (UTC)

Hey Nekron, how are these?

Medium Creation: The ability to create mediums out of anything. Sub-power of Medium Manipulation.

Nanite Negation: The ability to negate nanites.

Enhanced Properties: The ability to have enhanced physical properties of any kind.

Reflection Inducement: The ability to induce reflections onto anything, making them reflect off surfaces.

Hyper Finishing: The ability to finish any movement or action quickly and end in any position. Opposite to Hyper Starting.

Mutation Immunity: The ability to be immune to mutations. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 04:34, November 30, 2019 (UTC)

What about Illusion Immunity instead of Mutation Immunity? Illusion Immunity would be the power to not be affected by anything that is an illusion, especially powers like True Illusion or any illusion that has an effect on the user. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:13, November 30, 2019 (UTC)

Okay then, if you say so. I guess I will leave the True Illusion part out. Anyway, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:29, November 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hey Nekron2, is there an empowerment where the user gets stronger for no reason? Like no matter what the user is doing whether it's eating food,reading or watching TV they'll become stronger, faster and more durable? I'd really like to know because i can't find much on the empowerments category.

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:03, November 30, 2019 (UTC))

Okay thanks, i'll keep searching

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 18:59, December 1, 2019 (UTC))

Hey, Nekron, how are these?

Material Strength Manipulation: The ability to manipulate the material strength of anything, or how much deformation something can take before being deformed permanently.

Wetness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate wetness. We have Wetness Inducement.

Dryness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate dryness. We have Dryness Inducement.

Oldness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate oldness, or how old something is. Opposite to Newness Manipulation.

Realistic Appearance Manipulation: The ability to manipulate how realistic reality or an object or person looks, making real life look like a painting or a cartoon to making it look like bad or good CGI form the movies, or even make things look better than real. Like this.

https://i.imgur.com/IplSCjP.gif

Zeroness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate the number zero, and what happens at zero. It is said in physics that an object at the mass of zero will be "born" at the speed of light. With this power, the user can make similar things happen and much more. Opposite to Infinity Manipulation.

FTL Travel Manipulation: The ability to manipulate methods of faster than light travel, like warps speed, hyperspace, subspace, etc. We have FTL Transmission Manipulation.

Atmosphere Manipulation: The ability to manipulate atmospheres. Unlike Sky Manipulation, which includes the cosmos and a planet's atmosphere, this just includes a planet's atmosphere. We have Atmosphere Creation.

Material Strength Defiance: The ability to defy material strengths of objects.

Stiffness Defiance: The ability to defy stiffness of objects. Sub-power of Stiffness Manipulation.

Temporal Selection: The ability to choose which future happens after the past has been altered whether through Time Travel or Past Manipulation. They could make it so that the future remains the same or has a different outcome when the timeline changes.

Originalness Shifting: The ability to change which is the original user, shifting one's essence, mind, abilities and body to a look alike, fake imitation or clone of themselves.

Flexible Skeleton: The ability to have a flexible skeleton.

Flexible Organs: The ability to have flexible organs that can survive being crushed or deformed, mostly internal organs.

Equilibrium Defiance: The ability to defy equilibrium. Sub-power of Equilibrium Manipulation.

Flinch Immunity: The ability to be immune to flinching from anything.

Skipping: The ability to skip anything, from magnitudes to stages to choices to spaces, etc.

Body Adaptation: The ability to adapt to different bodies the user may be in, whether an animal's body to another person's body that they may not be used to, which they may get into by transferring the mind to another body or through exchanging minds. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:24, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:08, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, instead of that, how is 3D Inducement? The ability to induce 3D effects onto any 2D surface, in the same way as 3D effects in 3D movies, only this power can actually affect, interact with and harm others and the user without having to leave the surface? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:18, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:23, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Hey,Nekron can The Star Maker from the novel Star Maker(by Olaf Stapledon) be added as a user of Omnipotence? It's defined as a Spirit infinitely greater or transcendent over all of its creations. It's also the God or Supreme Being of that verse.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 22:41, December 3, 2019 (UTC))

I also think "The Emperor Beyond the Sea" qualifys for Omnipotence as well.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 06:00, December 4, 2019 (UTC))

Ok,thanks.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 07:03, December 4, 2019 (UTC))

Well will this be enough evidence for The Star Maker to be considered Omnipotent or maybe more of a Monotheistic Deity? also sorry for a lot reading and not dropping topic but i stumbled upon this and just had to use this as proof.

https://turingchurch.net/star-maker-the-cosmic-theology-of-olaf-stapledon-26c80d56c2d9

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 20:41, December 4, 2019 (UTC))

AF

Hey there, got few ideas for new powers: 1) Science Lock, the power to exist outside of science (as opposite of Mystic Lock), 2) Summoning Immunity, the power to be unable or avoid to be summoned, and 3) Summoning Negation, the ability to negate summoning abilities/rituals. What do you think?

-- Antoniofer (talk) 15:57, December 5, 2019 (UTC)

Hey Nekron, how are these?

Foolproofness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate how foolproof something is. We have Foolproofness Inducement.

Eternity Manipulation: The ability to manipulate permanence, manipulating what will always happen, including the probable or improbable. Opposite to Neverness Manipulation.

Persona Manipulation: The ability to manipulate personas, or how one is viewed on the outside.

Anima Manipulation: The ability to manipulate what a person is like on the inside, and opposite to Persona Manipulation.

Openness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate openness, like some place open to the public or a person open to ideas, or allowing interaction.

Closedness Manipulation: The opposite of Openness Manipulation, manipulating what is closed and not open for interaction.

Bluntness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate bluntness. Opposite to Sharpness Manipulation.

Switch Manipulation: The ability to manipulate switches of any kind. We have Switch Creation.

Future World Manipulation: The ability to manipulate future worlds, kinda like how Modern World Manipulation manipulates modern worlds.

Species Manipulation: The ability to manipulate species overall. We have Species-Shifting.

Earless Perception: Since we have Eyeless Perception, why not make a power like that for ears.

Enhanced Wandmanship: The ability to be proficient through using magic wands, scepters, staffs or the like,

Oldness Inducement: The ability to induce oldness onto objects. Sub-power of Oldness Manipulation.

Newness Inducement: The ability to induce newness onto anything. Sub-power of Newness Manipulation.

Linearity Defiance: Like Axis Defiance, only instead of rotation, this deals with moving lines, straight or curved using any part of the body.

Application Point Defiance: The ability to defy the point of application of contact, making it so that pushing on one side will make it so the point of contact is actually on another part of the object.

Action Line Defiance: The ability to defy the line of action of contact, making it when something is pushed or pulled, they go in a different direction or shape of line like a spiral different from the direction of point of contact.

Persona Inversion: The ability to make it so that one's persona becomes the anima, making them who they are on the outside become who they are on the inside, and vice versa.

Opposite Mimicry: The ability to mimic another person's powers, but in an opposite way, like how Bizarro from DC Comics' powers are the opposite of Superman's, having heat breath and ice vision instead of heat vision and ice breath and all.

Eternal Function: The ability for a person's or machine's functions to continue, even when they are damaged, destroyed, etc, making things happen like food being digested even when the intestines and stomach get destroyed, or a machine working even with destroyed parts. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:43, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

Eternity is something that is by the most basic definition to be outside of manipulation.

If something is eternal it cannot be manipulated, as it is always unchanging and eternal.

It doesn't have an origin, so how can there be anything to even control?

Its the same as omnipotence, its either always been eternal or it hasn't. You can't force something to have neither beginning or end.

So the power doesn't make any sense from a logical stand point, as its self contradictory otherwise.SageM (talk) 01:23, December 7, 2019 (UTC)SageM

First, I don't see why something needs an origin to be manipulated, and I was not thinking of the eternity as in being unchanged.

And I am not having the power manipulate eternity itself, just things that always happen, or will continue to happen, and that doesn't include god or anything of the like, just things happening, like motion or arguments. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:33, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

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