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The problem with the announcement, is that you can't actually stop users from making new pages.

Its a necessary function of this wikia, so telling them they can't make pages until god only knows when goes against what the wikia stands for.

We don't know how long it will take for the staff to reach a decision on this matter (or even if they will), so preventing users from contributing to the wikia is actually causing more harm then good.

Its better just to let he users make new pages for the time being and just decide afterward about whether or not to remove them.

Because you can't actually stop them without blocking every user that makes a new page.

So the announcement is pretty unreasonable as it defeats the purpose of the wikia for the time being.

I suggest just removing the announcement, as its not actually going to work like Alissa believes.

Just let users make pages and work out the other details after the voting or discussion is done.

Even the admins can only do so much, and policing every single user goes against the definition of our duties.

Its like the episode of the Simpsons were Marge makes a law that allows the police to arrest whoever they want.SageM (talk) 19:03, October 14, 2019 (UTC)SageM

AF

No worries, delete it if its necessary, to be honest, I didn't formally requested to create the power; I (or any other more suitable user) can recreate the profile once the current changes are performed and concluded, I have no hurry.

And congratulation for your promotion, and as for having a question, not at the time, but I asked you one little time ago (most be in your talk page), but I'm not in hurry neither, you can finish any work that you have at the time.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 19:11, October 14, 2019 (UTC)

The problem I see now is that we have no idea how long it will take for the staff to decide on the changes to the wikia.

If it takes weeks to reach a decision, then the announcement really does need to be removed and the staff needs to allow users to add to the wikia.

And based on how things stand now, a lot of long time users are pretty much going to say no to these changes and ask for their pages to be restored if there deleted.

If this gets too out of hand and the changes are to big, then we may have to ask the community to step in to deal with the mess.

And there is also the possibility that the staff may never reach an actual decision concerning this matter and the bureaucrats just decide to go ahead with the changes anyway.

So at times like this, its probably better that community itself is involved. As otherwise it will end up blowing up in our faces.SageM (talk) 19:22, October 14, 2019 (UTC)SageM 

AF

Hey there, I have a doubt about organizing users by alphabetic order: when the verse start by the word "the" (or similar), it its considered to start be the letter t or by the next word? SageM (indirectly) told me that its considered mute, but I've see powers where the t its considered at the moment to organize at alphabetic order; so naturally I'm confused.

And as an additional question, what do you think of Sawdust Manipulation? Pretty straight forward, the ability to control wood particles. I known that we can't create powers at the time being, but just to have it in mind.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 17:32, October 15, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Basically, C'iel and Gaira are beings that comes aren't native from any particular reality, they are beings beyond of what we consider demon or god, and despite embody the concepts and principles of good and evil, those terms aren't suitable to them; that's cuz, in order to interact with reality, they fused their essence with those principles. I believe they could fall under Morality Transcendence and maybe Cosmic Otherness, but I useally ask an admin before touching these pages.

About the event, it wasn't that much info, few possibilities like erasing their creators (this one was confirmed true time ago) and primordial concept prior to creation. There's also word of god that they are called conceptual weapons with personality, but since the source its in spanish I rather avoid it for now.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 19:26, October 15, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Hey there. I would like to known what do you think of the following powers suggestions if its not a bother: a) Rash Inducement, the power to induce... welp, a rash; b) Allegy Inducement, the power to induce and create an allergy to someone; and c) Weapon Borrowing, the power use the properties and powers of a weapon without the need to use/handle it.

By the way, when do you think we could be able to create new pages normally?

-- Antoniofer (talk) 20:11, October 16, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Thanks, I was a bit hasty and created the powers Sawdust Manipulation and Allergy Inducement; I see other people creating powers without some kind a warning or issue, so I assumed that the current changes were kinda reduced, so sorry if I caused a issue with creating them.

By the way, why this wki do not have the typical message wall as several others?

-- Antoniofer (talk) 18:53, October 18, 2019 (UTC)

Azs was a problematic user for the wiki in many ways, he was disobedient, when people told him to stop, he insisted on continuing with the same, harassing several staff members and discovered some more things that do not address his case.

In the case of Alisa, she plans to merge many pages, her excuse is that we have too many pages and she wants a more organized wiki.~~User talk:Arquetion

I have no idea how to block only temporarily.~~User talk:Arquetion

AF

Hey there Nekron. So, apparently Weapon Borrowing (or how I decided to call later, Weapon Imitation) was already covered by Weapon Physiology (although not sure at all), so it wasn't necessary at the end and was deleted.

But worry not, I have other idea, what do you think of Imperfection Embodiment, the power to embody all imperfections and flaws (self-explicatory), as opposed to Perfection Embodiment? And, in the case you're fine with it, do you think this description would fit in the power?

Thank you in advance.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 16:49, October 21, 2019 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. Yes, I generally wait for someone to post a better example for the page I create, in case that the only user(s) I got in mind is(are) pretty obscure.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 17:00, Octover 21, 2019 (UTC)

Source of deleted page

Hi Nekron2

Can you send me the source of Omni-Travel page. Since kuo is not around here anymore (he was the one who send me the source of deleted pages):

you can access the red link here:

https://powerlisting.fandom.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=Omni-Travel&year=&month=-1

DeuzExMachina (talk) 13:18, October 24, 2019 (UTC)

How do i create a new superpower?

I had a idea about a new superpower,but i don't really know how to go about it. Could you help/show me the steps to creating a new superpower please?

From,ThePirateKing777

I wanted to create a power called "Eternal Transcendence" its the power to be in an endless state of transcendence.even when the user transcends all limitations they are still able to keep their individuality and keep ascending Forever as it's in their nature to do so.

However, i wonder if this power is any different then Omni-Transscendence,whats you're opinion?

From,ThePirateKing777

Info Box

for editing the infobox, how do I add "Row 1 title",bgcolor,caption,and imagewidth. I've been trying to see if clicking "Add more information" would help but nothing is happening.

From,ThePirateKing777

AF

Hello once again, Nekron. I'm wondering, under what power do you think this description would fall? Kuo suggested me Nonexistence, but the power its pretty "common" to qualify as that, plus, not all its applications involve erasing.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 18:20, October 27, 2019 (UTC)

I see. Welp, there's no known users that absolute control over Nemesis, so guess no one qualify at the moment. Thank you.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 18:53, October 27, 2019 (UTC)

Classic editor problem

sorry if i'm getting annoying but I can't seem to get the classic rich-text editor to work. I changed my preferences to classic rich-text editor but it would change.

From,ThePirateKing777

i'm already using a acer laptop

From,ThePirateKing777

I understand it but I doubt that other people understand it.~~User talk:Arquetion

fair enough.

a week should suffice.SageM (talk) 18:45, October 28, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Name for a new power.(also thanks)

Hello, i just want to say thanks for your help with Eternal Transcendence. I'm thinking of making another new power but i don't know what to call it.

Its the power to embodie or have a connection with all imagination and possible and impossible ideas. An example in how a omnipotent being could at one time be a benevolent god and later be a malevolence god,then can a distant or unifying being. The user is everything you can think and not think of and is the very imagination of everything whether fictional or non fictional and all ideas were born from that unfathomable imagination that is this being.


From,ThePirateKing777

Condition Infinitum?

Should i make this power? So i can replace Absolute Condition in eternal transcendence? I doesn't make much sense for Absolute Condition to be a application for Eternal transcendence to me?

From,ThePirateKing777


You're a mod, have a look please:

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Demotivator Doyoufeeldemotivated ¿ Evil.gif 13:37, October 29, 2019 (UTC)


AF

Yoo Nekron, here with another idea: what do you think of Undead Creation? As the opposite of Life Creation, different from Reanimation that rises the corpses, this powers creates one completely anew (either from body parts, completely from nothing or any other method).

-- Antoniofer (talk) 21:46, October 29, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Techincally speaking, Necromancy its magic involving death-force and the undead, what I suggest, although can be performer by a necromancer, its not necessary involve magic and neither its Reanimation (the difference with Reanimation would be the same as Life Creation and Life Inducement).

-- Antoniofer (talk) 11:53, October 30, 2019 (UTC)

Delete a Message

Ok i understand what your saying, so how to i delete a message?

From, ThePirateKing777

Question on ET/Possible Existence Grounding Limitation

Can a user of Eternal Transcendence achieve Totality Connection? If not is it necessary to add Existence Grounding as a limitation or is that not neccessary due to the possibility a user of Eternal Transcendence is unreachable for the user of existence grounding to have a effect because ET user Transcends their reality level?

From, ThePirateKing777

Hey there, can I ask you about some power ideas, see if they are okay to you? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:41, October 31, 2019 (UTC)

Alright then, how are these?

Outer Space Maneuverability: The ability to maneuver or move well in outer space.

Inertial Frame Defiance: The ability to defy inertial frames. Sub-power of Inertial Frame Manipulation.

Vibration Defiance: The ability to defy vibrations and how they affect the user.

Force Contact: Like Energy Contact, only it uses physical forces to get around like gravity and magnetism by walking or otherwise moving on them.

Lagging: The opposite of Dashing, this is the ability to slow down for a short time before returning to normal speed.

Unipedalism: The ability to move on one leg or one foot. We have Quadrupedalism, so why not?

Perfect Rolling: Like Rolling Inducement, except the user can roll or spin effectively despite their shape.

Minimization: Basically the opposite of Maximization, and this power minimizes attributes, powers, etc.

Rule Compensation: The ability to compensate for rules, gaining new abilities and enhancing attributes to work with or go around them.

Planetary Dissociative Speed: Sub-power of Planetary Dissociation Travel, this allows the user to go faster or slower than the Earth's rotation.

Habitual Override: The ability to override one's own habits, and do things other than what the habit would have the user to do.

Multi-Purpose: The ability to have more than one purpose and make it so that the user can effectively have the means and abilities to fulfill those purposes.

Enhanced Stuntmanship: The ability to have enhanced skill in doing stunts and other dangerous things, like in the movies.

Death Defiance: The ability to defy death and the odds of death, making it so the user survives what should kill them.

Synonym Shuffling: The ability to shuffle synonyms, which works like Opposites Shuffling, except with synonyms.

Destruction Immunity: The ability to be immune to being destroyed.

Writing Generation: The ability to generate writing of any kind. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:00, October 31, 2019 (UTC)

For Death Defiance, we have had Negation and Defiance powers exist alongside each other before, like Inertia Defiance, Gravity Defiance and Gravity Negation, Inertia Negation. Plus, Negation is more about self and others while Defiance is more of a personal power. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:09, October 31, 2019 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:27, October 31, 2019 (UTC)

So Below, As Above only has Erasure.

It cannot effect anything other then books and stories. 

It has no effect on the outside world or reality. 

Erasing a story is not the same as True Nonexistence, which has no limitations (its the destructive form of Omnipotence after all)

the SCP cannot exist outside of books and thus cannot be said to have Nonexistence.

This has already been explained before, so please don't add it back. 

I have read the SCP and the discussion notes behind it, and it never had Nonexistence or Conclusion Dominance.SageM (talk) 05:22, November 4, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Your making it out to be more then it is, as it never says it effects anything other then print material.

No mention is made anywhere that it can effect anything outside of that, your making assumptions without the facts to back it up.

So no, where not going to add it to the page.

If it truly effect anything other then whats described on the page, then the page itself would be corrupted. 

The data lost thing at the end has nothing to do with the SCP.

If you actually knew about the SCP Foundation, adding data lost or information not found is common for all the SCPs on the site. Its not an indicator of the SCPs effects.SageM (talk) 05:36, November 4, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Just so you know, Alissa wants all admins to come onto Discord for a meeting. What time is good for you?  Please contact Alissa to tell her when you're available. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:36, November 7, 2019 (UTC)

Permission to create another New Power?

Can I create a new power called "Absolute Usurpation" in the future?

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:40, November 10, 2019 (UTC))

Say, Nekron, how are these?

Probable Time Manipulation: The ability to manipulate "sideways time", which is not forwards and backwards time, but time that can play out in many number of possible ways, whether it be possible pasts, presents or futures. The user can rewind, speed up, slow down, fast forward, etc. time into any possible future, past or present, other than the forward and backwards part of time.

Space Monster Manipulation: Like Sea Monster Manipulation, but with monsters from space.

Qualia Manipulation: The ability to manipulate qualia, which is information as perceived by life.

Criteria Manipulation: The ability to manipulate criteria, or a set of standards and rules, that are used for testing someone or gauges for judgement.

Foolproofness Inducement: The ability to induce foolproofness onto anything, making it so nothing can go wrong.

Dryness Inducement: The ability to induce dryness onto anything.

Type Advantage Combination: The ability have the advantages, and no disadvantages of a type of anything. For example, one could have the advantage of all three body types, like muscular, fat and slim.

Repairing Attacks: The ability to use attacks that fortify, strengthen and repair anything they hit.

Enhanced Rotation: The ability to have enhanced rotation abilities, like cartwheels and somersaults, only faster, stronger and better overall.

Planetary Dissociative Direction: Sub-power of Planetary Dissociation Travel, this allows one to change direction relative to the direction a planet is rotation in.

Small Surface Activity: The ability to move, act and attack effective on small surfaces, usually without falling off.

Fine Interaction: The ability to interact with things so small that they cannot be seen, such as atoms and bacteria.

Unfastened Interaction: The ability to interact with or move on objects with loose, unfastened parts without causing them to fall apart.

Elastic Activity: The ability to effectively move, act or attack on elastic objects like elastic ropes without causing them to move or even revert back to their normal shape.

Full Space Maneuvering: The ability to maneuver in full spaces, especially crowded, cluttered or packed ones.

Non-Contact Movement: The ability to move the body by causing the body parts, such as the head, torso, shoulders and hips to interact with a solid surface, even though they are not touching the soild surface, exerting forces on each other without touching each other as if they were touching anyway. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:40, November 15, 2019 (UTC)

Well, for Enhanced Rotation, we do have powers like Enhanced Mobility, whic coexist with powers like Hyper Motion and Accelerated Movement. I believe an Enhanced Rotation page can co exist with pages like Hyper Rotation and Accelerated Rotation. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:38, November 15, 2019 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 15:19, November 16, 2019 (UTC)

That's okay. Anyway, thanks. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:31, November 16, 2019 (UTC)

By the way, I just thought of some new powers I plan to do at a much later time, if you don't mind.

Speed Immunity: The ability to be immune to anything faster than the user or anything moving at high speeds.

Personal Movement: The ability to personalize, or customize one's movement capabilities.

Fixed Duration, which allows one to travel at any distance with a fixed, unchanging duration or time.

Also, about a power called Destruction Immunity, which you disapproved before because you thought it was too similar to Immortality; well, Destruction Immunity would effectively prevent one from having their body destroyed, or mind destroyed, blown to pieces or even erased. The user would still be able to be killed by other means, like being stabbed in the heart or brain, or maybe even be partially destroyed only like the brain, or by disease, etc. as long as their body is still intact. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:03, November 16, 2019 (UTC)

Then how about this instead? Contortive Storage: The ability to store things like a TV or house and make them fit it any container such as pockets and boxes, no matter how small it is. We have Contortive Ingestion, which this is similar to. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 20:05, November 16, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, but did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:28, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry that I didn't get the message. I was not alerted somehow.

One more thing. About Destruction Immunity, since it is about more of being destroyed to the point where pieces, remnants and maybe dust remains, what if I named it something like Disintegration Immunity or Disassembly Immunity instead? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:47, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, that will be all for now. Thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:50, November 17, 2019 (UTC)

Meta Regeneration

I found out recently that you've reversed my edit. Why was my additional edit undone? ChocolateElemental (talk) 16:12, November 20, 2019 (UTC)

And as for Healing Erasure? ChocolateElemental (talk) 16:33, November 20, 2019 (UTC)

Is the limitation "Could be a maddening experience" really not a good limitation? I would think it would be since the user is transcending forever. At one point the user could have control, then become "All Mighty",then stronger than that and it keeps happening, won't they drive themselves mad eventually with there forever increasing power? If not then the other limitation" Due to transcending various reality levels, the user will gain a dull sense of reality" i will have to remove.

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 16:48, November 20, 2019 (UTC))

Look, I'm not stupid, but the whole point of Meta Regeneration is that it cannot be removed through natural means. From what I remember, the capabilities information said that it cannot be removed. What I put into the capabilities is in no way a limitation, it's an additional sentence that explains what makes Meta Regeneration stand out. There's a difference between explaining limitations, and to explain what the differences are. It's obviously the latter. ChocolateElemental (talk) 17:07, November 20, 2019 (UTC)

If 3812 over came his mental illness than wouldn't another user do the same thing? If so then the first limitation would be obsolete, i think based on that it should be removed, what do you think? Should i still remove it?

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:20, November 20, 2019 (UTC))

Say, Nekron, how are these?

Unordered Magnitude: The ability to have the order of amount in anything be skipped, rearranged, etc, like when increasing electrical resistance, the user can skip even a large amount of numbers or have them rearranged to different orders. This can be effectively controlled mentally.

Undegraded Performance: The ability to always perform at one's best and never get stale or sloppy without even a need for practice. For example, making it so that the user can sing or act at an amazing level and not wear out or drop in quality as they continue.

Duration Reduction: The ability to reduce the duration it takes for one to do something.

Duration Augmentation: Like above, but makes duration longer instead.

Unfastening: The ability to unfasten, or loosen parts of an object, making it so they can easily fall apart.

Wetness Inducement: The ability to induce wetness onto anything, normally without the liquid, just the effect from the liquid. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 04:40, November 21, 2019 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:13, November 21, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Hello again, Nekron. Here with another ability suggestion: Intimidating Combat, the power to incorporate intimidation techniques with one combat abilities; technique of Intimidation Intuition, and variation of Combat Merging and Psychological Combat. What do you think?

-- Antoniofer (talk) 18:50, November 21, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Now I read through it again, it seems liek Intimidation Intuition already cover involving physical combat (few users use it in that way).

By the way, never commented about the suggestion of Undead Creation (remember, it do not reanimate a corpse, but rather creates ones a new). Also, got Executioner (a variation of Enhanced Assassination but less stealthy and more tracker/punisher), although is just an wild idea.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 15:04, November 22, 2019 (UTC)

Hey, Nekron, how are these?

Varied Matter Interaction: The ability to interact with matter or move on it even when it is constantly changing its properties and state such as shape, size, liquid, gaseous, etc. in many ways. whether it is doing so slowly or quickly.

Unpressurized Interaction: The ability to interact with any surface while supporting the weight or force of the body with a small surface area, like the tip of a finger.

Self-Particle Exertion: the ability to cause intermolecular or interatomic particles of the user to exert forces on the rest of the user's body, which can't happen in real life because they are internal forces.

Probability Augmentation: The ability to increase the probability of something.

Probability Reduction: Same as above, only this decreases chances of something happening.

Mixed Shapeshifting: The ability for the user to shapeshift other body parts to the point that the user looks like a mix between other beings and their respective parts.

Vacuum Vision: The ability to shoot vacuum beams from one's eyes.

Wholesomeness Generation: The ability to generate goodness, or wholesomeness for anything. Opposite to Taint Generation.

Identical Body Part Strength: The ability to have strength that is equal in all body parts, so no body part is stronger than all the others. Usually, in real life, body parts are not equal in strength, like the legs being stronger than the arms.

Disproportionate Torque: The ability to cause torque that creates a disproportionate amount of rotation.

Time Skipping Save: The ability to save one's progress in doing something in a future state rather than continuing from a saved point in the past. Future counterpart of Temporal Reload.

Power Division: The ability to divide one's power so that the possibilities it can do each become a separate power, like dividing each of the things Fire Manipulation can do into different, independent powers, making it harder for those with Power Replication to copy such powers completely.

Fusion Independence: The ability to use powers, skills, attributes, etc. of a fusion the user was part of as if they were still fused together, like if Goku from Dragon Ball had this power, he could fuse with Vegeta, unfuse and than use the abilities of the fusion entity he was part of. Just an example. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:43, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 06:40, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

Except.. It’s not. As I’ve said before, Mystic Lock still falls in under the same restriction as any other lock. It affects a larger group, that’s correct but it’s still not a variant of Omnilock, it’s still a lesser version. Meta Magic is like rule transcendence, it runs under the same rules as Spatial Transcendence which is beyond just meta space & spatial lock. Meta Magic runs under the same rules considering spatial transcendence was based off of it. Other Admins agree with the same thing; refer to Jess, and Kirie. Matter of fact, Mystic lock is actually within the applications of Meta Magic, just how spatiolock is under spatial transcendence. --Omuni (talk) 11:57, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

Yes, the opinion of the original page creator holds more weight.. When compared to regular users, not when compared to the word of admins and or the head admins. When 3 admins believe the same thing; then that’s a massive weight over just two. However, we can come to a general understanding. Meta Magic as seen on the wiki (given it predates almighty magic) is the makeup of almighty Magic’s capability. It could be seen as the rule Transcendence of Magic or its version of metapotence/ultipotence. As I’ve said, meta Magic even includes mystic lock within itself; it seems pretty obvious that some users were clearly misplaced within the user list of the power and or similar to other powers, only possess a lesser version. We could say so that we can come to a general agreement to place both as a ‘may be affected by meta Magic / may not be able to affect mystic lock’ sorta like how we have it for meta immunity bypassing and meta power immunity / Absolute Access and Omnilock? --Omuni (talk) 12:58, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

Except.. that’s not the case at all? I’ve upkept Meta Magic for ages now. It IS an omnipotent-like power in the same sense as Rule Transcendence. Magic ascendency by the way HAS almighty magic. It was also a power created that I disagreed with its existence because it was essentially just the power to ‘have’ almighty magic by ascending through magic. It is no way shape or form below Meta Magic either, considering Meta Magic can turn into that with time and experience thanks to their capability of overruling any limitations placed on magic. Final word on the matter - Meta Magic can affect Mystic Lock. --Omuni (talk) 18:02, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

I actually said meta Magic isn’t below magic ascendancy ^^; The whole point of MA (magic ascendancy) last time we admins debated its reason for not being deleted was that it was supposed to be the state of where ‘someone achieved almighty magic via ascending all limitations of magic thanks to meta magic’. But sure, the limitation you said works fine. Last bit, I wasn’t exactly comparing rule Transcendence to omnipotence— Not directly at least. You see, based off rule Transcendence they created metapotence; the aspect of omnipotence where one can do anything regardless of logic/rules/limitations. Based off as a higher/omnipotent version of rule Transcendence & logic manipulation. Meta Magic basically functions in the same way but specifically for magic. Same thing with meta science really. But like I said, your limitation adds up making Mystic Lock and meta Magic more like.. absolute access v Omnilock, which in a way they are. It also adds up with the fact Mystic Lock is under meta Magic’s applications ^^;. As for editing almighty magic from magic ascendency, I’d suggest probably debating the decision with the original page creator? Since that was one large arguement we wouldn’t want to stirr up again. I do agree with you that a LOT of powers are illogical in their applications, I actually wanted to create a revamp for the wiki on applications like these. --Omuni (talk) 19:15, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

Anytime! I’m always free to discuss the inner workings of powers and their scaling to others :p! --Omuni (talk) 20:27, November 24, 2019 (UTC)

Hey, Nekron, how is this?

Impulse Defiance: The ability to defy impulse, which is a change in momentum. It is  a concept in physics. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 02:04, November 27, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:11, November 27, 2019 (UTC)

Hey Nekron, how are these?

Medium Creation: The ability to create mediums out of anything. Sub-power of Medium Manipulation.

Nanite Negation: The ability to negate nanites.

Enhanced Properties: The ability to have enhanced physical properties of any kind.

Reflection Inducement: The ability to induce reflections onto anything, making them reflect off surfaces.

Hyper Finishing: The ability to finish any movement or action quickly and end in any position. Opposite to Hyper Starting.

Mutation Immunity: The ability to be immune to mutations. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 04:34, November 30, 2019 (UTC)

What about Illusion Immunity instead of Mutation Immunity? Illusion Immunity would be the power to not be affected by anything that is an illusion, especially powers like True Illusion or any illusion that has an effect on the user. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:13, November 30, 2019 (UTC)

Okay then, if you say so. I guess I will leave the True Illusion part out. Anyway, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:29, November 30, 2019 (UTC)

Hey Nekron2, is there an empowerment where the user gets stronger for no reason? Like no matter what the user is doing whether it's eating food,reading or watching TV they'll become stronger, faster and more durable? I'd really like to know because i can't find much on the empowerments category.

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:03, November 30, 2019 (UTC))

Okay thanks, i'll keep searching

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 18:59, December 1, 2019 (UTC))

Hey, Nekron, how are these?

Material Strength Manipulation: The ability to manipulate the material strength of anything, or how much deformation something can take before being deformed permanently.

Wetness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate wetness. We have Wetness Inducement.

Dryness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate dryness. We have Dryness Inducement.

Oldness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate oldness, or how old something is. Opposite to Newness Manipulation.

Realistic Appearance Manipulation: The ability to manipulate how realistic reality or an object or person looks, making real life look like a painting or a cartoon to making it look like bad or good CGI form the movies, or even make things look better than real. Like this.

https://i.imgur.com/IplSCjP.gif

Zeroness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate the number zero, and what happens at zero. It is said in physics that an object at the mass of zero will be "born" at the speed of light. With this power, the user can make similar things happen and much more. Opposite to Infinity Manipulation.

FTL Travel Manipulation: The ability to manipulate methods of faster than light travel, like warps speed, hyperspace, subspace, etc. We have FTL Transmission Manipulation.

Atmosphere Manipulation: The ability to manipulate atmospheres. Unlike Sky Manipulation, which includes the cosmos and a planet's atmosphere, this just includes a planet's atmosphere. We have Atmosphere Creation.

Material Strength Defiance: The ability to defy material strengths of objects.

Stiffness Defiance: The ability to defy stiffness of objects. Sub-power of Stiffness Manipulation.

Temporal Selection: The ability to choose which future happens after the past has been altered whether through Time Travel or Past Manipulation. They could make it so that the future remains the same or has a different outcome when the timeline changes.

Originalness Shifting: The ability to change which is the original user, shifting one's essence, mind, abilities and body to a look alike, fake imitation or clone of themselves.

Flexible Skeleton: The ability to have a flexible skeleton.

Flexible Organs: The ability to have flexible organs that can survive being crushed or deformed, mostly internal organs.

Equilibrium Defiance: The ability to defy equilibrium. Sub-power of Equilibrium Manipulation.

Flinch Immunity: The ability to be immune to flinching from anything.

Skipping: The ability to skip anything, from magnitudes to stages to choices to spaces, etc.

Body Adaptation: The ability to adapt to different bodies the user may be in, whether an animal's body to another person's body that they may not be used to, which they may get into by transferring the mind to another body or through exchanging minds. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:24, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:08, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, instead of that, how is 3D Inducement? The ability to induce 3D effects onto any 2D surface, in the same way as 3D effects in 3D movies, only this power can actually affect, interact with and harm others and the user without having to leave the surface? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:18, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:23, December 2, 2019 (UTC)

Hey,Nekron can The Star Maker from the novel Star Maker(by Olaf Stapledon) be added as a user of Omnipotence? It's defined as a Spirit infinitely greater or transcendent over all of its creations. It's also the God or Supreme Being of that verse.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 22:41, December 3, 2019 (UTC))

I also think "The Emperor Beyond the Sea" qualifys for Omnipotence as well.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 06:00, December 4, 2019 (UTC))

Ok,thanks.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 07:03, December 4, 2019 (UTC))

Well will this be enough evidence for The Star Maker to be considered Omnipotent or maybe more of a Monotheistic Deity? also sorry for a lot reading and not dropping topic but i stumbled upon this and just had to use this as proof.

https://turingchurch.net/star-maker-the-cosmic-theology-of-olaf-stapledon-26c80d56c2d9

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 20:41, December 4, 2019 (UTC))

AF

Hey there, got few ideas for new powers: 1) Science Lock, the power to exist outside of science (as opposite of Mystic Lock), 2) Summoning Immunity, the power to be unable or avoid to be summoned, and 3) Summoning Negation, the ability to negate summoning abilities/rituals. What do you think?

-- Antoniofer (talk) 15:57, December 5, 2019 (UTC)

Hey Nekron, how are these?

Foolproofness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate how foolproof something is. We have Foolproofness Inducement.

Perpetualness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate anything perpetual, meaning no end, manipulating what will always happen, including the probable or improbable, or make it so that things never take a break when doing something. Opposite to Neverness Manipulation.

Persona Manipulation: The ability to manipulate personas, or how one is viewed on the outside.

Anima Manipulation: The ability to manipulate what a person is like on the inside, and opposite to Persona Manipulation.

Openness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate openness, like some place open to the public or a person open to ideas, or allowing interaction.

Closedness Manipulation: The opposite of Openness Manipulation, manipulating what is closed and not open for interaction.

Bluntness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate bluntness. Opposite to Sharpness Manipulation.

Switch Manipulation: The ability to manipulate switches of any kind. We have Switch Creation.

Future World Manipulation: The ability to manipulate future worlds, kinda like how Modern World Manipulation manipulates modern worlds.

Species Manipulation: The ability to manipulate species overall. We have Species-Shifting.

Earless Perception: Since we have Eyeless Perception, why not make a power like that for ears.

Enhanced Wandmanship: The ability to be proficient through using magic wands, scepters, staffs or the like,

Oldness Inducement: The ability to induce oldness onto objects. Sub-power of Oldness Manipulation.

Newness Inducement: The ability to induce newness onto anything. Sub-power of Newness Manipulation.

Linearity Defiance: Like Axis Defiance, only instead of rotation, this deals with moving lines, straight or curved using any part of the body.

Application Point Defiance: The ability to defy the point of application of contact, making it so that pushing on one side will make it so the point of contact is actually on another part of the object.

Action Line Defiance: The ability to defy the line of action of contact, making it when something is pushed or pulled, they go in a different direction or shape of line like a spiral different from the direction of point of contact.

Imperfection Immunity: The ability to be immune to imperfections such as stains, scratches, dents, cuts, scars, etc.

Opposite Mimicry: The ability to mimic another person's powers, but in an opposite way, like how Bizarro from DC Comics' powers are the opposite of Superman's, having heat breath and ice vision instead of heat vision and ice breath and all.

Eternal Function: The ability for a person's or machine's functions to continue, even when they are damaged, destroyed, etc, making things happen like food being digested even when the intestines and stomach get destroyed, or a machine working even with destroyed parts. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 00:43, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

Eternity is something that is by the most basic definition to be outside of manipulation.

If something is eternal it cannot be manipulated, as it is always unchanging and eternal.

It doesn't have an origin, so how can there be anything to even control?

Its the same as omnipotence, its either always been eternal or it hasn't. You can't force something to have neither beginning or end.

So the power doesn't make any sense from a logical stand point, as its self contradictory otherwise.SageM (talk) 01:23, December 7, 2019 (UTC)SageM

First, I don't see why something needs an origin to be manipulated, and I was not thinking of the eternity as in being unchanged.

And I am not having the power manipulate eternity itself, just things that always happen, or will continue to happen, and that doesn't include god or anything of the like, just things happening, like motion or arguments. The power is now Perpetualness Manipulation, as this power is more of manipulating things without end only. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 01:33, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

It's Perpetualness Manipulation now.

It would be like Infinity Manipulation, being able to swap, copy, transfer, steal, reassign, remove traits that are perpetual, and manipulate what happens during what something is doing, which is perpetual. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 15:43, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:59, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

Should i add another limitation for Eternal Transcendence saying that transcending could be time consuming? (ThePirateKing777 (talk))

Say, Nekron, how are these?

Primariness Manipulation: The ability to make anything the primary thing to use by someone or a primary way of doing something.

Entity Manipulation: The ability to manipulate entities of any kind.

Luckiness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate good luck.

Jinx Manipulation: The ability to manipulate bad luck.

Occasion Manipulation: The ability to manipulate occasions, which are human based events, such as weddings, festivals, conferences, etc.

Morphic Field Manipulation: The ability to manipulate morphic fields, as described here.

http://www.spiritualresources.info/content.cfm?PageID=86

Coercion Manipulation: The ability to manipulate coercion, as in forcing someone to do something.

Infernal Manipulation: The ability to manipulate the universe with hellish influence. Opposite to Celestial Manipulation.

Inflatable Manipulation: The ability to manipulate inflatables, including but not limited to balloons.

Coil Manipulation: The ability to manipulate coils, such as metal springs.

Layer Removal: The ability to remove layers from anything.

Regenerative Enhancement: The ability to regenerate from wounds and make it so the area where the wound was becomes harder to damage.

Prehensility Extension: The ability to hold more than one object at once, even those the user is not touching but is in contact to something the user holds.

Self-Development: The ability to develop one self without school, parents, being raised, etc.

Auxiliary Condition: The ability for one's powers, attributes, skills, etc. to be backed up with those identical to them when they are stolen, absorbed, erased, etc., so that the user keeps using them and does not really lose them.

Enhanced Inference: The ability to figure out things on one's own, even without being taught about something first.

Probability Defiance: The ability to defy probability and the odds.

Old Age Inducement: Unlike Oldness Inducement, which deals with non living things, this power induces old age onto any living thing.

Blackout Inducement: The ability to cause blackouts onto buildings or entire cities.

Dimensional Survival: The ability to survive in any dimension, no matter how different it is from one's own. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:31, December 9, 2019 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 05:36, December 10, 2019 (UTC)

I see. Here is one more I meant to ask you.

Maneuver Manipulation: The power to manipulate how maneuvers work, and by maneuvers, I mean acts of skill. Like aerobatic maneuvers or skills with the Yo-yo. Sound good? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 06:16, December 10, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 06:29, December 10, 2019 (UTC)

I think it's high time we shut down our toxic threads now. Its clear that all ot ever was is a slander and hate campaign over an ultra emotional staff member because they failed to get what they want.

And mine was just a counter report. The FANDOM staff will take action against the attacker soon, we're done here.

Death horseman94 (talk) 13:53, December 10, 2019 (UTC)

Say, about those powers I asked you about, Regenerative Enhancement and Blackout Inducement, for the latter, I looked to see if there was anything like it, and surprisingly, I did not find anything that could do what Blackout Inducement does. As for Regenerative Enhancement (now called Regenerative Correction), which you said was like Regenerative Empowerment, the Empowerment power just makes one stronger from regenerating. This power, Regenerative Correction, just makes a section of the body harder to affect or damage again. Even when you regenerate a cut off arm, the part that was cut would become more durable, not stronger, and the rest of the body can still be affected. So, is it okay if I do Regenerative Correction and Blackout Inducement now? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 17:15, December 11, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for very late reply, but i lefted a link on all information you need to about The Star Maker and why i believe it's Omnipotent. However it looks like your busy with the Death Horseman situation. Please take your time. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 17:30, December 11, 2019 (UTC))

Alright, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 22:33, December 11, 2019 (UTC)

He is not an anti-god, and the facts prove this...

The problem is that the One-Above-All isn't really an anti-god when you get down to the basics.

First off, he was defeated by the Hulk (the Hulk he took over was an alternate timeline version and thus is not considered canon to the main 616 timeline)

Secondly, he is not the primordial void as he didn't come into existence until after the omniverse was made (as he is and always has been a resident of Hell/Below-Place), while Oblivion has always existed.  before every iteration of the multiverse/omniverse, predating even the first firmament.

third, his only powers seemed to be hatred empowerment and gamma radiation/energy.

Other then that, he doesn't really have the same feats or powers even remotely close to the One-Above-All

Who would truly be more powerful, something that has always existed and will always exist? or an entity that didn't even come into existence until after the death of the first firmament and the foundation of the multiverse?

Yeah, he is not an Anti-God, and the facts really show this to be the case.SageM (talk) 05:41, December 14, 2019 (UTC)SageM

New Power Idea

Omni enhancement

The power to enchance anything/everything.

Do i have permission to make it?

Lothar's immortality is considered to be advanced and perfect that unlike the Nameless One, his immortality cannot be negated by the Lady of Pain.

And considering the Lady of Pain can kill even other gods and embodiment's with nothing more then a gesture, I say that puts him in the realm of Absolute (or very nearly to it). And the only being higher then the Lady of Pain is the Luminous Being/The Dungeon Master.SageM (talk) 05:36, December 22, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Also why did you remove Lucifer Morningstar? I was pretty sure that he couldn't be killed even by Death of the Endless or the Overvoid... 

Unlike his brother Michael (who can die), Lucifer has never show to have anything be able to truly kill him. Even the end of creation itself wouldn't phase him.

And since he has met both of them and come away unscathed, I thought that was evidence enough that he couldn't truly die.

I could be wrong, but I do believe the facts have shown this to be the case at least...SageM (talk) 05:47, December 22, 2019 (UTC)SageM

Pirateking's power idea is already covered by Omni-Augmentation.SageM (talk) 06:29, December 22, 2019 (UTC)SageM

New power Ideas

1. Don't know what to call this first power but it's the power to have limitless growing uncontrolable power.The users power grows essentially without limit but it's too much for the user to handle, causing the user to lose control when provoked or even destroy themselves.I was thinking it would be a stronger version of Power Instability


2."Real World Destruction: Destroy "the real world"


3. Confusion Embodiment: Embody Confusion


4.Unknown Embodiment: Embody The Unknown


5.Omni Power Combination/Mixture:Take all powers and combine it into one power. This would be different from Complete Arsenal as CA has all powers while OPC takes all of of them and make it one power.

6. Omni Combination: Combine anything/everything.

7.Cycle Destruction: Destroy all cycles.

What you think? Do i have the green light?(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 21:21, December 22, 2019 (UTC))

Hey Nelson can I please make the part of Ultimate Regeneration where it says “the ability is also adaptively intelligent, meaning it will not multiply harmful cells such as tumors, but instead repair the sick cells to their original, optimal healthy forms. Also, the user does not require to turn twisted limbs in the right orientation manually for regeneration to occur. Even if something is jammed into the body, it will not prevent regeneration as it can simply shift the obstacle to make the recovery complete. If the user gains the ability after birth, then the ability can also heal any and all birth defects such as heredity illnesses and unformed limbs.” into an ability of its own called Intelligent Regeneration? --Chris Urena (talk) 16:16, December 23, 2019 (UTC)

why did you lock the anti-god page???? 

amatsu-mikaboshi is just an aspect he is not qualified being an anti-god and nekron he doesn't count because unlike the decreator and GEB he never challenge the presence.Anthonytheidiot (talk) 08:35, December 24, 2019 (UTC)

Like which? --Chris Urena (talk) 15:42, December 24, 2019 (UTC)

AF

Hey Nekron, ehm, Sage never answered about the Science Lock power, but in the mean time I got other suggestions: a) Liquification Slash, the power to mix cutting/slashing attacks with melting/liquifications effects; b) Transmutating Slash, as the former one but with transmutating effects in general; and c) Absolute Defensive Stance (or Defensiveness), the ability to possesses ultimately defensive skills such blocking, parrying, dodging, etc. Sub-power of Absolute Combat and Absolute Defense, [true] opposite of Absolute Strike, different from Absolute Defense would be the same between Absolute Attack and Absolute Strike, more melee combat oriented.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 17:02, December 24, 2019 (UTC)

Curse of Contradiction- isn't that absolute immortality?

Wouldn't Mavis and Zeref (Fairy Tail) count as users of Absolute Immortality due to the Curse of Contradiction?

Its already been proven multiple times that they literally incapable of ever dying by any means, and they only really died at the end due to the power of The One Magic (which is defined as being Omnipotent in both power and scale)

Even Mard Greer's Memento Mori and Natsu's Fire Dragon King mode couldn't end their lives. All it would do is leave them incapable of fighting or moving, but they would still be (and remain) alive.

If it takes an omnipotent power or being to end your life, then it fits the definition of Absolute Immortality to a T (or at least the new capabilities anyway).SageM (talk) 20:17, December 29, 2019 (UTC)SageM

A Question on TOAA

I heard Al Ewing in going to make TOAA appear in the Immortal Hulk story in the future.

If Al makes him truly Omnipotent again will he be added back as a user of the Omnipotent page?

Just Curious (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 18:39, January 1, 2020 (UTC))

“Omnipotent Powers” category

Dear Nekron2, do you know, who merged the “Category:Omnipotent Powers” category with the “Omni Powers” category? And why? ... Now we have two of the later, one with upper case and one with lower case “p”: “Omni Powers ”, “Category:Omni powers ”. Does this make sense? Shouldn’t we restore the “Omnipotent Powers” category and erase one of the others? Rad238 (talk) 20:17, January 4, 2020 (UTC)

Was there really any reason to create another Omni Powers category? I mean the old one worked just fine.

It would have been better just to move all of the powers to that page instead of deleting it and creating a category with the exact same name.

Its not really logical to create another category with the same name.SageM (talk) 07:04, January 5, 2020 (UTC)SageM

I already know that.

I said that its better just to merge them all into the existing Omni powers category, rather then make a new category altogether.

Its more efficient and better then breaking the wikia rules about not creating the exact same thing and new making a new categories.

You might want to talk with Alissa about this, since its easier then deleting a category that has been on here since the beginning of the wikia.SageM (talk) 07:10, January 5, 2020 (UTC)SageM

After all, they are all going into the Omni powers category anyway, so whats the point of making a new one when you already have one that works the same as has been here since the start?

You don't create something new and discard the old category that already covers it, you discard the new one and use the old category instead.SageM (talk) 07:12, January 5, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Thats not really a reason to delete the category.

You can easily fix that with the rename command, so there isn't actually a reason at all.

Even in the matter of professionalism that's not really an excuse to fix a small flaw.

Sorry but it doesn't make any sense from a logical standpoint....SageM (talk) 07:15, January 5, 2020 (UTC)SageM


Hey guys, are you sure, the Wise Wolf wanted this? My first thought was, it might have been an accident...
Anyway, there are still some links pointing to it, e.g. in Absolute_Existence , Meta_Miracle_Manipulation , Meta_Combat ...
Also all contents of Capabilities and Limitations may be reconsidered now:  @Nekron2: when you adjusted Capabilities of Meta_Power_Manipulation , did you mean the lower case "p", Category:Omni_powers ? It seems, this one was deleted today.
I would also suggest to change Limitations like "Omni powers are immune/highly resistant" into something like "Some Omni Powers may be highly resistant or immune", since the new Category:Omni_Powers also contains less mighty powers such as Omnilingualism. What do you think? Rad238 (talk) 12:16, January 5, 2020 (UTC)

Say, Nekron, how are these?

Attribute Augmentation: The ability to augment attributes.

Attribute Reduction: The ability to decrease anyone's attributes.

Disease Augmentation: The ability to augment diseases and make them worse.

Disease Reduction: The ability to reduce diseases and make them less intense.

Supernatural Inducement: The ability to induce supernatural effects onto anything. Sub-power of Supernatural Manipulation.

Affinity Negation: The ability to negate empowerments or affinities.

Embodiment Negation: The ability to negate someone's embodiment of something.

Condition Switching:The ability to switch one's condition, whether it be good or bad in quality, attributes and health, with that of another.

Illusion Destruction: The ability to destroy any illusion.

Drastic Magnitude: The ability to cause extreme changes in one's magnitude in terms of anything, from mass to energy attacks to motion, etc.

Solid Movement: The ability to move through any solid easily, no matter what it is.

Body Part Exertion: The ability to cause body parts to exert force on themselves rather than by interacting with outside matter or other body parts.

Body Wound Protection: The ability to have some means to prevent anything going inside or outside a body through a wound or hole in the body, such as preventing organs or blood from falling out or sand or water from getting in through bodily wounds or holes.

Inflated Force: The ability to exert force normally even when under the effects of powers like Inflation, Inflation Inducement, etc, despite being full of air somehow.

Affinity Manipulation: The ability to manipulate affinities or empowements.

Ugliness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate ugliness. Opposite to Beauty Manipulation.

Necessity Independence: The ability to not need any necessity, such as the need to eat or drink or be independent of a power source for one's powers, and so on.

Weakness Exchange: The ability to exchange weaknesses of any kind with others.

Type Replication: The ability to replicate types of anything, elemental, energy, mental, emotional, etc. types from someone or something else.

Avatar Replication: The ability to replicate the embodiment/avatar/what someone represents from another person, gaining their powers, personalities and such. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:45, January 5, 2020 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:29, January 5, 2020 (UTC)

I have an idea for an almighty power page, it's the opposite number to Nanite Artificial Intelligence Physiology. I like to call it Sapient Organite Consciousness Mimicry; or something along those lines. It's a physiology based superpower variant of Organite Manipulation.--Sypherpol (talk) 16:23, January 6, 2020 (UTC)

I already took it too Crystalstorm, they never replied. And I do not trust SageM's judgement, plus he's kind of a jerk. Been trying some of the other admin's because of which.--Sypherpol (talk) 17:27, January 6, 2020 (UTC)

ET Limitation

Could another limitation for Eternal Transcendence be that the user can't stop transcending even if the user wanted to?(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:20, January 6, 2020 (UTC))

New Power Idea

Sun Wukong Physiology/Embodiment. Sub power to Chinese Diety Physiology.

The User has traits of,can become or is Sun Wukong.

Is this ok to made?(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 20:06, January 7, 2020 (UTC))

Hey Nekron, can I make the Rebel and Charmer archetypes? --Chris Urena (talk) 12:27, January 8, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, that sounds better. Thanks.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 18:15, January 8, 2020 (UTC))

Hey, when you have free time could you look into the Monkey God Physiology power i made and edit a few things to make the power more align with the title? It would be well appreciated. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 21:47, January 8, 2020 (UTC))

these users aren't really anti-gods

nekon2 i keep telling you that these users aren't anti-gods.

amatsu-mikaboshi = he is just an aspect more like a subordinate to the true anti-god, even oblivion himself said that mikaboshi only has a very very tiny fraction of his power, so mikaboshi is more of a destroyer deity than an anti-god.

nekron = unlike the great evil beast or the decreator he never fought the presence. Nekron also holds one great weakness: he cannot exist in this universe. In order to properly interact with the living, Nekron requires a link between between New Earth and the Land of the Unliving and he is even imprisoned in his own realm so he is not an anti-god.

TOAA and the presence would erase their asses without a whim. Anthonytheidiot (talk) 10:15, January 10, 2020 (UTC)

you really don't understand how the anti-god page works.

the most important thing of being an anti-god is to rival the supreme being, not being the primordial void.

amastsu-mikaboshi will never be an anti-god EVER same as nekron he is even commanded by hal jordan to weaken volthoom.

this is my last message. if you disagree then i will talk to the bureaucrat instead.

Hey Nekron i was told to ask you or Crystal if and when i create pages, so may i create a defensive based entropy ability ?

Say, Nekron, instead of that Body Part Exertion power I asked you about, how is this instead?

Selective Motion: The ability to change one's motion in certain ways rather than completely, so instead of producing forces that cause change in both speed and direction, the user can make it so that either speed or direction, not both, are solely affected. Likewise, for forces that produce both linear and rotational motion, the user can make it so that only either linear or rotational motion, not both, can be affected. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:33, January 13, 2020 (UTC)

Did you get my last message? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 15:50, January 15, 2020 (UTC)

Alright, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 15:59, January 15, 2020 (UTC)

Tactile Telepathy

I already asked this of Omuni but since I have not heard back and will probably have even less chance of a response from Alissa, I wanted to ask you. Is Tactile Telepathy an allowable power on this site nowadays? Years ago, I attempted this power and Tactile Mind Control but they were immediately deleted by Kuopiofi as physical contact was listed as a potential Limitation for both of them. If it is allowed now, I would like to do tactile versions of Mind Control, Empathy and potentially Hypnosis. If not, then Tactile Telepathy probably shouldn't be here. Just wanted to ask your indulgence. Thank you for your time. Kusarigama (talk)

May i create these two Abilities Visual Imperception- the ability to not be perceived unless you are viewed .... Forget me not from the xmen is a user of this power. And

Imaginative Defense

~~RegalHarbinger~~

Anti God new Quote

Can i add TOBA's quote to the Anti God page?(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 18:43, January 16, 2020 (UTC))

Say, Nekron2, how is this?

Feign Unconsciousness: Like Feign Death, but with unconsciousness. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 15:58, January 18, 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 16:04, January 18, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I also plan to make two new powers. One is "Flaming Sword Proficiency" and the other is "Spirit Shifting". Are they okay to make?(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:53, January 18, 2020 (UTC))

Spirit Shifting is the power to change your spirit in unpredictable ways. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:17, January 19, 2020 (UTC))

Do not delete users please?~~User talk:Arquetion

Can you please explain to me why you removed valid users from the page? There was no reason to eliminate them.~~User talk:Arquetion

when the page is not blocked, I will add the users you deleted again~~User talk:Arquetion

it never says in anywhere in the capabilities that the user has to mimic all fictional characters. 

So I'm not sure where you even got the idea that it doesn't have users, as long as they can copy a fictional character (even if its a joke) it still counts as an example.

I think you just don't want it to have users because you believe its a power similar to Omni-Creator. Even though that is not the case at all and it never was the case when the power was made.

Capabilities-

"The user can duplicate and combine any power, technique, skill and trait of fictional or nonexistent characters."

Now tell me, exactly what part of this means the power doesn't have users?

I'm not going to add back the users, but you should realize that your making judgements about something that your not even being accurate about.

Besides, we already have other powers on this wikia that are similar to Fictional Mimicry and yet they have users.

So unless your going to tell me that none of these powers can have users, you are the one who is changing the pages for your own benefit.

You kind of are exceeding your authority in this situation Nekron, so its best if you leave the matter to the Bureaucrats to decide. As otherwise your violating your role as admin in this matter.

I'm not trying to start a fight or argument, but you do need to consider that the power has been around for a long time and other members of the staff accepted the way it was designed and the users on it.

Fictional Mimicry is not even remotely the same as Omni-Creator, so please don't try and make it into something that it isn't.

Leave the page be and let Omuni and Alissa make the final decision regarding it.SageM (talk) 05:34, January 21, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Also there is a little thing called Parody Law that allows companies to use characters that are someone elses copyright material in a fashion such as this.

That's the whole point of why the power can have users.

So the argument you made in the comments doesn't really mean what you think it means.SageM (talk) 05:38, January 21, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Where does say that they have to be able to mimic the powers of characters that are nigh omnipotent or ultipotent?

Your argument doesn't make sense, since its incredibly arbitrary. 

It says the power to mimic Any fictional/nonexistent character. It never says that they have to be able to mimic someone like the Living Tribunal or Lucifer.

Your confusing mimicking any character with All characters. Which it doesn't say at anywhere on the page.

Your just making up weird reasons for why the power can't have users.

Even when there are actual examples in other series of users mimicking fictional characters, your still going to say that it doesn't have users?

Yeah, I really think you need to step back and examine this situation more closely. because your denying actual proof when its literally right in front of your face.

Also you never presented any proof that they can't copy someone like the LT or Lucifer, you just said no and that your decision is final regardless of evidence to the contrary.

I'm going to ask Omuni about this too. Since your argument and reason for removing the users is heavily flawed and not based on common sense or logic.SageM (talk) 05:51, January 21, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Stranger things than that have happened in fictional series.

neither you or I have seen and/or read every every comic book, anime, manga, light novel, or tv show.

So who is to say it hasn't happened before? The Gintama series has been ongoing for decades (both the anime and manga). So there isn't any way for us to know whether something similar hasn't happened before.

While I don't know if Cyborg can copy Lucifer or the LT, he has mimicked other fictional characters before in the Teen Titans series (and once or twice in the comics).

You gotta take the examples in the capabilities with a grain of salt. As there just examples, not something the users actually have to do.

Well we can figure out this mess later after the page is unlocked for the rest of the wikia.SageM (talk) 06:08, January 21, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Permission to change picture in Utipotence with new Azathoth picture? (SunlightSoul123 (talk) 19:32, January 21, 2020 (UTC))

Two Options:Azathoth1 Azathoth2

In my opinion, the second picture is better. (SunlightSoul123 (talk) 18:19, January 22, 2020 (UTC))

AF

Hey there, Nekron. Question: do you think this spell would count as Ultimate Erasure? Thanks in advance.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 21:02, January 22, 2020 (UTC)

How does the Behemoth or leviathan say that their fallen angels at all ? Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 08:40, January 24, 2020 (UTC)

Ya but which interpretations ? All this time they where known as embodiments of Earth and Ocean. And they're where never evil especially the behemoth, his roar brings peace Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 17:23, January 24, 2020 (UTC)

AF

Ok, thank you.

Yeah, I was the one that asked about Science Lock (maybe I wasn't only one that asked for?), and as you suggested, I asked SageM about it, but he never commented.

-- Antoniofer (talk) 20:58, January 24, 2020 (UTC)

Power Concept: Chaotic Elements

SageM suggested I go to you with this.

So, I had this idea a while ago, but wasn't sure if I should bring it up. In essence, it is a power set revolving around control over elements... but with the corollary that it's a bunch of different ones that randomly alternate, without direct control over what is in effect. Here are the versions I had in mind:

CHAOTIC POWER WEAPONRY


USERS

ITEMS


CHAOTIC POWER ARTILLERY


ITEMS


CHAOTIC ELEMENTAL AURA


USERS


Thoughts?

GZilla311 (talk) 04:36, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

nekron2 if you know any users of https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Swiss_Army_Weaponry

please add them.

thanks. i just want someone to help me make this power the next most popular power/article on the wiki.

that's allPokemonfan807 (talk) 20:37, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Regarding Ultipotence

Just my opinion but I think ultipotence should be split in two. What I mean is that the power is causing some confusion. It’s to be seen as high tier nigh-omnipotence Or omnipotence without Omniscience(which is impossible since omnipotence should make the user truly Omniscience anyway). There also seems to be more confusion since now almighty replication is a limitation for ultipotence and people question why. Would it be able to replicate the user because it’s high tier nigh Omnipotence Or it can’t do it because it’s just omnipotence without omniscient.

I believe one power should be the power to have infinite or unlimited raw power but the user needs a clear idea on how to use that power And the other power should be the power to be questionably omnipotent. What I mean for the second power is that basically the user is questionably all powerful like azathoth and Kami tenchi.

What are your thoughts? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 00:45, February 7, 2020 (UTC))

Well umm 😐 I never thought about it but it would be such an opportunity I guess I'd consider it thank you Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 09:54, February 8, 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much Dragon-Fox 7 (talk) 20:02, February 8, 2020 (UTC)

Meta Transcendence Limitation?

Is it possible for a user to not know or have full control of this power. If so permission to add "Maybe limitation"? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 07:01, February 18, 2020 (UTC))



New Idea Then? (idk)

Terribly sorry for the late reply, however if Meta Transcendence requires complete control of the ability then is it possible for there to be a Transcendent power were the user first transcends all limitations then somehow survives from being erased due to lost of all restrictions and now the user has some kind of new device or limiter to keep themselves together/from losting there individuality?

I feel Featherine is an example of what i'm talking about since the device on her head does the same thing.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 04:37, February 19, 2020 (UTC))



Meta-Concept Manipulation

Once I read your comment after my change I got it. I read the power as meta (level) concept manipulation; but it's actually manipulation of meta-concepts ..... mind blown lol

Aurakle (talk) 01:52, February 23, 2020 (UTC)

Permission to edit the Ultipotence page when it's unlocked? I'd like to delete the "Power-only version of Omnipotence" and the first sentence of the page saying "Ultipotence is Omnipotence without Omniscience:" part of the page because people legit think that's what the power truly is. Plus a lot of people say the page content is confusing and contradicting. 

You could agree that Ultipotence is "The power to do anything without except be Omniscient" so it just Ultimate Nigh Omnipotence right? so i think it's a reasonable change. (SunlightSoul123 (talk) 19:17, February 23, 2020 (UTC))

Hey there. I have something to ask.

So, one of the content moderators, Demotivator, has a problem with two of my recent powers, Leanness Manipulation and Bodily Position Manipulation, saying they are redundant, and is threatening to delete them. Thing is, I never have seen a rule for the Wikia that said no redundant powers, and given that there are over 10,300 pages here, some of them are bound to be redundant, anyway. That said, I think it is just a nitpick of his and I don't think the power should be deleted just because he says so, while nobody else has a problem with it. What do you think? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:24, February 24, 2020 (UTC)

First off, just to be clear, those two are not the same as each other.

Second, Leanness Manipulation is different from Fat Manipulation, an opposite in fact as it can make someone thinner than normal, or even have their bones showing for being too skinny, something Fat Manipulation can't seem to do.

As for Bodily Position Manipulation, this is supposed to be like Bodily Motion Manipulation and Bodily Rotation Manipulation, only for bodily positions. That said, we do have motion powers, but even motion can be different from position, or still position in this case. And unlike Enhanced Repositioning, this power controls the positions of others, and may not need to make an actual transition of one power to another (teleportation).

So I don't see how these are redundant. Those are the two powers he called redundant, by the way. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:10, February 24, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, though you might want to tell Demotivator that as well.

Just to say, I am sure that I know what redundant powers are, and I would never make a power if they were like another power like how Unrestricted Murdering was to Unavertable Death. If I did, that would most likely be by accident and I, or another admin would remove it (which I would happily let them to). Just saying. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 19:26, February 24, 2020 (UTC)

So you’re saying there’s no need to edit the page? Cause I feel like it needs to be done in order to put down the “True Omnipotent without Omniscient” way of thinking but I’m good if that’s a no. (SunlightSoul123 (talk) 19:38, February 24, 2020 (UTC))

Swiss Army Weaponry Opinion

what's your opinion on https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Swiss_Army_Weaponry?

i know you viewed my omni-absorption page very favorably but i want to know your opinion on this power.

because it's simple but efficient power, has many users, and can exist in real life. so what's your opinion on it?Pokemonfan807 (talk) 22:09, February 25, 2020 (UTC)


Excalibur Ruler for Omniarch:

You took Excalibur Ruler out of the Omniarch Page but I think someone put it back in.

Classification of Almighty Level Powers

True Omnipotent: The complete and genuine article, Omnipotence with no limitation. There is only one power in this entire wiki that falls under this category.

Omnipotent: The Powers and Abilities that would be truly Omnipotent if not for the existence of an Omnipotent power greater or equal to itself. (* Note: These powers defy logic, do not logically justify them)

Nigh Omnipotent: The Powers and Abilities that allows the user to do anything so long as they do not create logical contradict, or paradox.

Reality Warping: The Powers and Abilities that had limitation other than logical contradiction and paradox.

Do you think this will help clear up some confusion?

SageF (talk) 19:12, March 14, 2020 (UTC)

Yo, Nekron2 Could you close the Page of Ultipotence please. A user by the name of Denmarkfelix is removing limit that is vaild. For example, Users of Almighty Replication may be able to replicate the user. He think if it a True omnipotence without omniscience.

Hey Nekron2, I’m wondering if you could answer me a question.

What would you name the power to be “omnipotent in a well functional system”? Expression of Nigh Omnipotence.

I was thinking of a name but I can’t seem to come up with one. Could you help me? I would appreciate it greatly. Thanks! (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 15:47, March 15, 2020 (UTC))

this guy called "SageF" has no damn proof about this limitation he add, PR beyonder no longer counts how can that limitation be valid if he doesn't have any proofs. unlock the page please, he has no reason to lock the page. Denmarkfelix (talk) 18:55, March 15, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Again!(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:08, March 15, 2020 (UTC))

ok, but please remove that limitation SageF has no proof to back up his claims.

that limitation is invalid because none of the users of ultipotence got their powers copied and PR beyonder no longer count, what proof does SageF has. he edit the page just to fit his own opinion.Denmarkfelix (talk) 19:12, March 15, 2020 (UTC)

Anti-God Infobox Pic

I feel Maybe oblivion is a better choice for Info box pic since he’s the primordial void and an actual anti-God other than the mere aspect of him. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 05:06, March 25, 2020 (UTC))

Woke Azathoth = Omnipotence

Since Azzy is a user of Metapotence despite being mindless I believe he should be a user of omnipotence via waking up considering when it does wake up it will have full control over its powers. Metapotence is omnipotence without the GOD status right? But Azzy is a monotheistic deity or is God. When he wakes up he should fit all the requirements of an omnipotent being. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 22:59, March 26, 2020 (UTC))

I would say Sacred Ancestor (Vampire Hunter D) for the Meta Regeneration infobox. His regeneration abilities are ridiculously strong. Probably a competitor for strongest regeneration in fiction.


As for Absolute Immortality, I would say either Son Wukong, Azathoth, Empty Hand or Sacred Ancestor. Someone who absolutely can’t be and will never be killed without a doubt.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 16:32, March 27, 2020 (UTC))

Fictional Mimicry Question

Greetings. Hope you are well and safe during these difficult times. I noticed the changes made to Fictional Mimicry and I had two questions related to it. Since it has undergone some changes concerning its list (or lack therof) regarding Knonw Users, should it now be set to Powers with no known users? If the page does not have any Users listed, that is how it should be, right? Second question: Would Genie from Aladdin count as a possible user? Time and again, he has assumed the appearance and abilities of various fictional characters in movies and the series (The Three Musketeers, The Fairy from Pinocchio, Baloo from Talespin) just to name a few. Just an thought. Thank you for your time. Kusarigama (talk) 22:57, March 28, 2020 (UTC)

All right, I think Azathoth should be the new face of Absolute Immortality. I just have one proposal. I wish to use a different Azzy pic.


Azathoth_%28Petersen_Games%29.jpg


How does this look? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 06:41, March 29, 2020 (UTC))

Fair enough. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 06:53, March 29, 2020 (UTC))

Will do. Thanks. Kusarigama (talk) 18:54, March 29, 2020 (UTC)

Forget to asked permission, can i change the info pic for the opposite version of Omniscience? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:03, March 29, 2020 (UTC))

Ultimate Regeneration

Hey there Nekron. I hope you are doing well. Now that our wiki has itself a Nigh-Absolute Regeneration, does this mean that Ultimate Regeneration is now part of Peak Human Condition/Supernatural instead of Peak Human Condition/Absolute? --Chris Urena (talk) 12:28, March 30, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 07:58, March 31, 2020 (UTC))

May i create the following abilities

May i create Matterless Space- a form of space Manipulation that would allow energy but not mattter to pass through it Ex: Black Sabbath ability displayed by Dark Schenider

Nigh-Absolute Shield/ Existential Sheild- which would no function like Absolute Sheild as its description is a consturct that can protect the user against EVERYTHING. This Ability would function to only block the user the Planes of existence they have access to displayed by Dark Schenider with his ability called Dispound

Dimensional Defense- a defensive ability utilizing dimensionally energy

Existence Strike or attack- an ability that allows the user to attack someone on all planes of existmce simultaneously such as mental physical and spiritual (totality attack vaguely covers this from my understanding but also attack those that exist outside of existence where this ability would be limited to attacking others only the planes of existnce within reality) EX: Judas Preist ability used by Dark Schneider


Existential Venom- a venom that when poisoning the opponent would affect them all planes they exist on with in reality sickening/ weakening or killing the user on all those pmanes simultaneously. An idea of mine I'm still looking for users on.

New Idea

I want to make a power called dream existence. It’s the power to be the dream of existence. This is a Variation of Reality Dreaming and Omni-Embodiment. I want to take this idea from the Godhead of elder scrolls since it’s not really the reality dreamer Like Azathoth but the whole dream itself that’s why it’s never really going to wake up also do not confuse this For Dream Embodiment.

Is it good to make? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 15:43, April 2, 2020 (UTC))

Thanks. I think I’ll use that name for the power. Sounds cooler. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 16:12, April 2, 2020 (UTC))

Here it is. Reality Dream Physiology. Make whatever edits you wish. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 20:36, April 4, 2020 (UTC))

Another user for Fictional Mimicry

Would Everyman/Avery Man from The Simpsons count as an example of Fictional Mimicry?

Since he can use and take on the form and powers of any hero whose comic he touches. Which means he could easily mimic cosmic entities from comics such as DC, Marvel, Image, and others.

He isn't even limited to a single comic franchise either, he can copy them from any comic book universe (he was shown copying characters from two different franchises).

There doesn't seem to be any real limitations to characters whose powers he can copy. If there part of a comic, he can use them.

So would he be a valid user?SageM (talk) 03:44, April 7, 2020 (UTC)SageM

New idea

Irreversible Burn. The power to inflict a burn that will never heal. Variation of Irreversible Destruction. Sub-power to Ultimate Burning and probably Absolute Hot Inducement.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 20:28, April 12, 2020 (UTC))

One more thing, can you look it an argument on the Eternal Transcendence page? It’s about a limitation of the power being Omnipotence. Thanks. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 06:43, April 13, 2020 (UTC))

I thought ET’s creation was based of 3812’s transcendence bruh. That why there’s only one user. In the application there are so many omnipotent level powers listed to solidify that fact like fictional Transcendence. You removed that limitation before now all of a sudden you started switching up bruh? Wow. (SunlightSoul123 (talk) 11:43, April 13, 2020 (UTC))

Wouldn't Incursio armor from Akame ga Kill count as Absolute Defense?

After its second evolution it becomes immune to the Demon Extract and its trump card, which is the power to freeze/stop time.

Time stopping is a form of warping reality. So it pretty close to how Absolute Defense is defined now.SageM (talk) 22:47, April 14, 2020 (UTC)SageM

New Ideas

1. Eternal Argumentation - argument something endlessly. Variation of Augmentation.

2. Eternal Power Argumentation - argument any power endlessly. Variation of Power Augmentation.

3. Eternal Self-Power Argumentation - argument your own power endlessly. (I think Hajun could be a user of this power) Variation of Self-Power Augmentation.

Looks good? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 17:44, April 15, 2020 (UTC))

Does SCP-662 really have Absolute Buying?

Hey, I saw that you undid my revision to Absolute Buying that undid SCP-662. I don't think SCP-662 has Absolute Buying. Firstly, because it's not actually "buying" or "bartering" for anything. You just ring the bell, Mr. Deeds appears, and he produces the item you asked for or politely declines the request. There's no evidence that he's buying the object or in any way bargaining to get it. Assuming that he were doing so, he also can't grant certain requests - requests for a nuclear bomb or a car both failed. Even if he is bartering for these items, he certainly doesn't have an absolute ability to do such. I think he should remain removed as a user of the power.

Necrotifice (talk) 17:53, April 15, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Again. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:35, April 15, 2020 (UTC))

Don’t know if Kumagawa is a user of this power since he wasn’t able to use All Fiction to “regenerate” himself from Iihiko’s attack in chapter 163. I commented that on the AR page and no seemed to correct me. Should I remove him? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 21:31, April 18, 2020 (UTC))

Why remove the Spectre from Meta Transcendence? Could my proof be wrong? I mean he did transcend his individuality and became one with “The Void beyond Voids” or “The Oversoul” (which I’m guessing that’s The Overvoid since he also described it as “ The Sea of Eternity.) (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 15:16, April 19, 2020 (UTC))

The rules page doesn't have a rule like that, and even if you say so otherwise, both the rule page and as well as the certain rules aren't professionally explained enough clearly. If that's not going to happen, then you can add in some example bullet points to them. ChocolateElemental (talk) 20:53, April 19, 2020 (UTC)

Can I at least make a levels section for Semi-Immortality for it to fit into instead? ChocolateElemental (talk) 00:32, April 20, 2020 (UTC)

Well? ChocolateElemental (talk) 11:51, April 20, 2020 (UTC)

I mean, I do get it, but as Wikipedia explains, Biological Immortality in real life isn't the same as what Semi-Immortality is supposed to be perceived. Long story short, the article for it says that it doesn't make the organisms everlasting, but keeps them eternally youthful. I'm just biased to a fault against classifying the different perspectives as just linking to the same scenario/thing, but that isn't the case. This is why categorization and tier/level labeling exists, and whether you agree with me or not, tiers are variations too.

This is the reason why I've categorized the real-life counterpart of "Semi-Immortality" as Quarter-Immortality, even though the perspective is different. Does that make sense? ChocolateElemental (talk) 12:26, April 20, 2020 (UTC)

Yes, but what about the statement where its Wikipedia article says it doesn't make the user live forever, just eternally young? You're not completely responding to everything I'm saying. ChocolateElemental (talk) 21:52, April 20, 2020 (UTC)

So let me get this straight, is Semi-Immortality's article actually based around on what the Wikipedia site explains? If that's actually the case, then why does it say about the user being able to live forever? This is all honestly poorly written out. At the same time, this article must be completely rewritten then, and then rename this article as Quarter-Immortality instead. Because as far as I have seen and known, Semi-Immortality is when a being is ageless and eternally youthful, but are still susceptible to physical death. Though to be fair, I wasn't clear on what I was talking about, because what I am meant to say is dying of old age, and that's what Quarter-Immortality is about alongside being youthful forever.

The Titans from Attack on Titan are semi-immortal, sure, but they don't frankly age in the slightest and they don't physically die of old age. But that doesn't mean they are immune to death in terms of aging, they are still killed off by attacking the back of their neck despite their powerful regeneration. Even the teacher/scientist confirms that the Titans aren't technically immortal, but on the other hand, I know for a fact that the Titans are just ageless and that's just it.

Do you see my point now? ChocolateElemental (talk) 22:34, April 20, 2020 (UTC)

Still, it's all poorly written out in it, and even though it revolves around the real-life organisms that are biologically immortal that don't technically live forever, it painfully contradicts everything the Wikipedia article says about it. This is why merging perspectives can be a bad thing, and ironically, it doesn't make sense in of itself either. Again, this is why categorization exists to identify the differences. Without it, then the differences won't even be easily identifiable anymore. Its that simple. ChocolateElemental (talk) 12:42, April 21, 2020 (UTC)

Say, Nekron, how are these?

Elasticity Inducement: The ability to induce elasticity onto anything.

Spatial Rotation: The ability to rotate any section of space. Multi-Rotation would be a variation of this.

Counter Drain: The ability to drain or absorb any of an opponent's powers as they are draining and absorbing one of the user's.

Signal Creation: The ability to create signals, like wi-fi signals.

Stability Removal: The ability to remove stability of any kind.

Progress Erasure: The ability to erase progress of any kind. Sub-power of Progress Manipulation.

Counter Muscle Memory: The ability to use an enhanced muscle memory to learn and develop ways to counter others' moves and actions.

Leadership Inducement: The ability to induce leadership capabilities or titles onto others.

Unhealthiness Manipulation: The ability to manipulate unhealthiness. Opposite to Health Manipulation.

Signal Manipulation: The ability to manipulate signals, like wi-fi signals.

Physical Disorder Manipulation: The ability to manipulate physical disorders. Physical counterpart to Mental Disorder Manipulation.

Accident Manipulation: The ability to manipulate any kind of accidental event there is.

Complexity Manipulation: The ability to manipulate complexity itself.

Continuation Defiance: The power to defy the continuing of motion, such as stopping during speed or acceleration or continuing longer than usual.

Extended Exertion: The ability to exert forces, push, pulls or produce impacts that last longer than normal, allowing for additional actions per force.

Distortive Effect: The ability to bend or deform anything the user has on or is inside of without breaking it, via mass, size or elasticity altering.

Fixed Interaction: The ability to treat anything that is not fastened or attached firmly to something like it was fixed and secure.

Mixed Collision: The ability to have mixed collisions, meaning the user deforms other objects when striking them and yet does not lose speed.

Malnourishment Inducement: the ability to make others malnourished.

Multi-Image: Like Afterimage Generation, except the images of the user can come from the sides and front of the user as well.

Physics Inducement: The ability to induce different sets of physics onto others.

Death Creation: The ability to create new ways for anyone to die. Sub-power of Death Manipulation. CrystalStorm51 (talk) 17:54, April 21, 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:29, April 21, 2020 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot one other power. Appearance Retention: The ability to retain one's appearance in any way, even with different forms or things like reflections. Is this good as well? CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:36, April 21, 2020 (UTC)

Okay, once again, thanks! CrystalStorm51 (talk) 18:40, April 21, 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I just want to owe both you and SageM an apology. I was just stressed and frustrated about the stance of disallowing an extra lower level of this ability even though Wikipedia had explained about it not giving an organism eternal life, just simply remaining young everlastingly. The person that added the trivia description into Semi-Immortality's article that the organisms don't live forever except not physically dying of extremely old age, doesn't have the slightest wisdom of viewing alternate perspectives, what is fact or what is not fact. The reason why I've reacted negatively to this edit reversal, and as well as the uncategorization is not only unclear, but also how unthorough it is.

In terms of analogy, this reminds me of certain extremists going against "feminists" as some of them are perceived as vile misandrists. However, they aren't being 100% honest. First of all, Feminism is a philosophy that benefits both genders, hence the fact they want gender rights and gender equality. However, the ones they are talking about actually are radical feminists, but to be more honest here, it would be best if we all instead labeled them as feminism abusers, because this name for those kinds of "feminists" are not representing what feminism should be. They are disgusting misandrists, jealous, and sociopathic individuals that want nothing more than to just treat male people like utter garbage because they think males are "superior" over them when in reality, there is no such thing as superiority/domination in genders.

This is why categorization and perspectives exists. Without them, people will find certain things hard to tell apart, and also, this won't make explanations 100% clear and/or honest.

Again, I just want to explain my side of the story on why I have reacted the way I have as of recently until up to this point, and I am extremely sorry for giving both of you some bother. If you want to ban be temporarily from this site for a short period of time, that's fine if that makes everything better. Thanks for understanding. ChocolateElemental (talk) 23:56, April 21, 2020 (UTC)

New ideas

1.Attack Transcendence - transcend your state of being with each attack. (this can be punches, kicks, blast attacks, etc.)

2.Meta Power Physiology - The power to be absolutely all superpowers. Variation of Complete Arsenal.

3. Combative Transcendence - Transcend your state of being through combat. Variation of Meta Combat?

4.Systempotence - remember the system dependent omnipotence power we talked about while back? I was wondering if I could make that.


Sounds good? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 00:56, April 22, 2020 (UTC))

Hey, did you see my ideas.(not to be a bother or anything.)But I also want to make this:

Achievability - The power to make any properties, attributes or anything with magnitudes to become reachable or achievable. This will be the new opposite for unreachable magnitude since absolute supersede has merged with meta-transcendence for some reason.

Is that cool.

(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 03:23, April 24, 2020 (UTC))

Sure thing. So in another words that’s a definite no for the other power requests then? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 05:59, April 24, 2020 (UTC))

Ultipotence & Metapotence

Just recently today, I edited Metapotence for a bit so it won't be confused with Ultipotence, because I do know most if not all people on this wiki could get mixed up of which of them is actually semi-equal to Omnipotence. For me to arrange this ordeal, can I please edit Ultipotence for a little bit so I can make some minor rewrites? I will only be adding in the "not to be confused with Ultipotence" part, and Logic Manipulation will be changed to Metapotence. Because from what I have been reading on Metapotence, its an ultimate variation to Logic Manipulation itself. But if you don't want me to and you just want to take my request in doing so, that's no problem, and I do appreciate it. ChocolateElemental (talk) 08:21, April 27, 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks. 😉👍 ChocolateElemental (talk) 09:27, April 27, 2020 (UTC)

Excuse me sir but I have a quick question, can omnipotence be achieved by Retcon of a story?(TheImageOfAllThings (talk) 11:34, April 27, 2020 (UTC))

AF

Hey there. Don't think the Nameless qualify, according to the description of his power, he can still be killed by "divine entities" (that I believe, it may refer to beings with Gnosis 45 or above, or with Gnosis 50. He should be definitively be killed by the Beryl and Shajad). In the Gate of Memories video game, Unknown said that if the Arcane is destroyed with the Nameless inside, he wouldn't survive (and in the way is described, is Life and Death Removal effect).

Antoniofer (talk) 12:16, April 27, 2020 (UTC)

It does have a great amount of powers, yes, Carlos created with the idea to adapt a bunch of animes and videogames (mostly based in Xenogears).

Can't confirm if there's someone with Absolute Immortality yet. Based in WoG, the Beryl and Shajad (and thus, C'iel and Gaira) transcend the notions of life, death and existance, and there's no known way to destroy them except by the likes of them (but not covering C'iel and Gaira I believe).

Antoniofer (talk) 12:43, April 27, 2020 (UTC)

Hey again, i need a favor. Can you explain to Sage the different between Eternal Self-Augmentation and Duration Empowerment?  Because he seems to belief both are the same. Also if Crystal doesn't restore it then would you do the honor? Thanks! (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 21:40, April 28, 2020 (UTC))

There is no difference between Duration Empowerment and Eternal Self Augmentation other then the limitation for the original power was removed.

Hajun's powers rise over time, even if that timespan doesn't end or have an upper limit. That's still the basic principle behind Duration Empowerment.

Anything that happens over a period of time, even if its a slow process or a continual one is considered to be a Duration.

That's what the power is. It doesn't matter of the duration is finite and/or endless/infinite.

The only difference between the two is the limitation is no longer valid. And that's basically it.

So tell me how there can be any difference, when they both are doing the exact same thing?SageM (talk) 21:52, April 28, 2020 (UTC)SageM


DE is just being empowered by time passing by with the limitation being that it may only use that power for a certain amount of time. ESA is endless power boosting at will.  Meaning it’s not constantly rising through the flow of time but the users choice. Just as they could easily boost themselves endlessly they can also choose not too.

I was also going to add a limitation being that they might be vulnerable when the user is not boosting their power.

It does have some Relation with the Duration of time but there are many powers on this wiki that have a lot to do with gaining more power over time. Does that mean they are covered by duration empowerment? No, So that’s really not a good reason to delete the power.

Both are similar somewhat yes i admit but If ESA is covered by that then who’s the say that Temporal Empowerment also is already covered Duration Empowerment. But it's not Right? Maybe using Hajun as an example probably wasn't a good idea. But it's your call.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 22:02, April 28, 2020 (UTC))

The new page- "Power Buying", seems like its closer in nature to a limitation for Power Bestowal, rather then a separate page in of itself.

Having to purchase the power first before you can make use of it doesn't really sound like a way of using powers, it sounds like your limiting the existing power so that only those that can afford it can make use of it.

Since that is the case, do we honestly need it? I mean overall its still bestowing powers to others, just the with limitation of having to spend something first before its granted to you.

Plus the final limitation for Power Bestowal already says something similar. So i'm not really seeing how its anything more then a limitation rather then something unique or varied enough to be called a page by itself.

It should either be deleted or merged with Power Bestowal, because otherwise its going to have to undergo a complete rewrite to stay on here.

I'm not trying to ask that it be deleted outright, i'm simply saying that they way its described doesn't make it sound like a page on its own.SageM (talk) 00:37, April 29, 2020 (UTC)SageM

All right then thanks.

One more thing, Does Personal Domain already Cover for Systempotence?(System dependent omnipotence) I got the idea from the one above all explaining that he was omnipotent in a well functioning system. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 06:14, April 30, 2020 (UTC))

Absolute Buying infobox change

I think SCP-738 should be in the infobox. It's the strongest user of the power.

I am aware it doesn't have a pic but they are other art that could work. I found a good one.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 16:17, April 30, 2020 (UTC))

This is it. Is it good? <img src="SCP-738.jpg" alt="File:SCP-738.jpg"/> (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 18:36, April 30, 2020 (UTC))

Was having a little problem. See it now? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:00, April 30, 2020 (UTC))

Done. Thank you. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:15, April 30, 2020 (UTC))

New Idea

Absolute Degradation - degrade any/all “absolutes” and reduce them to normal standards. Sub-Power to Absolute Manipulation and maybe Omniarch. This is not to be confused with Obsolescence as it’s not making the victim useless just reducing their absolute power to normal standards.

Good to make? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:09, May 2, 2020 (UTC))

Nevermind, Status Elimination covers for it. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 20:08, May 2, 2020 (UTC))

AF

Hey there, Nekron, since if seems to be looking for new powers through fiction, I wonder, under what power would this description fall? Thanks in advance.

Antoniofer (talk) 00:31, May 4, 2020 (UTC)

New Ideas

1.Basic Combat Perfection - The user perfects their basic martial arts skills which could result all of them becoming recoiless. I got this idea from Mori Jin from God of Highschool.

2.Complete Development - The user completes their entire skills set. Like maxing out a character's skill tree. This is also an idea i got from Mori Jin from God of highschool.

3.Fallen Hero Archetype - Basically the user goes from being good to evil. True Hero to Dark Lord. the user doesn't always need to end up a dark lord though. Plenty of fictional characters would be users of this power.

4. Immortality Buying - The user can buy the immortality from other willing to sell it to them. I got this idea from Death from Adventure Time. You know the scene with Death, Lincoln, and Jake.

Good to make? (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 19:44, May 4, 2020 (UTC))

Fictional Mimicry New Infopix Edit

Can i change the info pic to the Genie from Aladdin?

I tried to ask Sage for permission but then I realized he doesn’t exactly have admin status anymore. That’s probably why he’s not responding to the message I left him. It’s either that or he’s being plain old SageM.

Anyway, I’ll for your response. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 22:02, May 10, 2020 (UTC))

Plus I don’t think that Asura fits the requirements to be a user of absolute strength anymore. My reason is on the absolute strength page if you want to check that out. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 22:34, May 10, 2020 (UTC))

Well here it is; Systempotence

Make whatever edits you wish.(ThePirateKing777 (talk) 05:50, May 12, 2020 (UTC))

Systempotence seems to be a verse-specific power.

As the only example of it is from Marvel Comics, and it only applies to one specific storyline. 

Doesn't that make it by definition a verse specific power? Unless you can find other examples in fiction (or other users), than it probably shouldn't be on here.SageM (talk) 19:47, May 12, 2020 (UTC)SageM

its probably better to try and find some more users for Systempotence, otherwise its clearly a verse-specific power.SageM (talk) 19:57, May 12, 2020 (UTC)SageM

Hey again! If you have the time could you take a look at the system dependent omnipotence power and gave your verdict about the situation surrounding it?

I think it would be important to see your view on the matter. Thank you. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 01:12, May 13, 2020 (UTC))

Hey I’m thinking about deleting Almighty Dependency soon. Before I do so I just want to see if it was cool with you.

I don’t want to annoy you or anything. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 15:56, May 13, 2020 (UTC))

Oh... ok cool. (ThePirateKing777 (talk) 16:18, May 13, 2020 (UTC))

Hey my bad that was supposed to go on my blog fanfiction


I'll try better next time

Btw in my eyes it was not meaningless because infinite possibilities means infinite outcomes.


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